Keeping Up with Billy Hamilton
Billy Hamilton is one of the most intriguing prospects in baseball. In a game where home runs are king, Hamilton’s speed still excites the imagination in a Pete ‘Wheelie’ Wheeler way. Drafted in the second round in 2009, Hamilton stole our hearts. Then he stole 103 bases in 2011; and then a minor league record 155 last season. Yet his speed isn’t enough to keep him from being a controversial prospect. Often placed in the 20s or 30s on top-100 lists, the Cincinnati Reds prospect still has his doubters.
Let’s start with what we know about Hamilton: His speed is unparalleled in baseball. I clocked him at 3.6 and 3.7 from the right side a few times, and a tick or two below that from the left side. He’s absurdly fast. When he’s on the bases, he’s constantly moving, taking mini-steps toward the next base. This gives him a sort of walking lead while also distracting the pitcher. Pitchers are obviously aware of him, but he still stole two bases against left-handers without a throw and distracted Wirfin Obispo enough to get him to balk. Hamilton’s speed is a true weapon.
But how is Hamilton’s conversion to center field is going? The idea behind the move was presumably to allow his speed to play on defense by running balls down in the gaps while avoiding his not-so-graceful actions in the infield. From what I’ve seen, this is playing out perfectly for the Reds. He has crazy range in the outfield, and he has at least an average arm. Hamilton looks natural and confident in center field, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he posted a crazy UZR or DRS year down the road.
The major concern about Hamilton wasn’t his speed — and most people thought he would adapt to center field. The concern was about his bat. Hamilton is a switch-hitter, but he has a better swing from one side of the plate than the other. And that stronger side is, unfortunately, on the right. Hamilton has a natural, smooth swing from the right side with a decent amount of pop. There’s little load, and he drops the barrel down the ball with solid contact.
The swing from the left side doesn’t look as natural. It’s a prototypical slap-hitter swing in which Hamilton drags the bat through the zone through a flat plane. From the right side, there’s more wrist snap and the potential for at least some loft and backspin. From the left side, though, he’s basically looking to hit the other way and run. That’s not a terrible idea with his speed, but when he gets to the major league, the fear is pitchers will overpower him to the point it won’t matter. Better defenses will convert more of those grounders into outs.
And Triple-A pitchers and defenses have been doing that this season. Hamilton’s strikeout rate hasn’t increased, but his walk rate is definitely down from last season. When I saw him, he wasn’t taking pitches or working the count. He’s 6 feet tall and he weighs roughly 160 pounds, so power isn’t his game. It would help him to be able to draw walks at the next level, but if pitchers are able to come after him without worrying about Hamilton doing any damage, his hit tool isn’t enough to keep a high batting average that will push his OBP up as well.
But how much does Hamilton really have to hit if he’s awesome on the bases and in the field? If you give Hamilton the 2012 fielding and baserunning numbers of Michael Bourn — 23.3, 6.1 — and the 2012 offensive numbers of Jordan Schafer — .211/.297/.294 — you get about a 1-win player. If you give him Mike Trout’s baserunning production — 12 BsR — and a few more runs on defense, you might scrape a 2-win player together. That’s fine, considering Schafer was below replacement-level last season, but it also assumes the elite production from the other parts of Hamilton’s game. And even then it only nets you an everyday regular who should probably hit sixth or seventh to utilize his speed.
Can Hamilton top Schafer’s .266 wOBA and 64 wRC+ and become a star-level center fielder? It’s possible if his Triple-A performance is simply a blip, instead of a sign that his change in levels is finally starting to be a problematic. We don’t know the answer to that question, but I haven’t been impressed by Hamilton’s hitting ability or his approach so far. I imagine it’s the reason the Reds haven’t called him up even with a hole in the outfield and Shin-Soo Choo’s -27.2 UZR/150 so far this season. If that situation doesn’t scream to the Reds that Hamilton should be promoted, there’s probably something causing that hesitation.
Love the backyard baseball reference, the best baseball video game IMO.
If Billy Hamilton is Pete Wheeler, I gotta go with Bryce Harper as Pablo Sanchez.
I saw Billy Hamilton play in spring training this year. He lined a ball over the head of the second baseman, and the center fielder cut the ball off in the gap. Hamilton was safe at third with a triple. It was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen on a baseball field, and he got a standing ovation. I really, really hope he hits enough to have a very long career because he is exceptionally fun to watch run.
The trouble with these speed type guys like Vince Coleman or Omar Moreno is they have a very short peak and thier value isn’t high even during that peak. Vince Coleman’s three 100 steal years had WAR’s of 2.4, 1.2 and 2.8.
Are there any thoughts on abandoning his swing from the left side? If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. And if he can be a solid right handed hitter vs both rhp and lhp, isnt that better than being a weak left handed hitter most of the time?
Mike Newman and I talked about that a little while ago. I’m not sure how he would respond, production-wise not mentally, to being a RHH only. But if they would, I’d do it before he transitions into the MLB so he could get a few ABs against RHP. But I imagine the potential speed threat from the left side will be too much to switch him.
That would enter a massive variable into the equation… right-handed batting vs. RHP. It would probably be worth trying if he can’t manage to step up his LHB production against RHP, but it’s possible he could be worse batting right-handed vs. RHPs than batting left-handed vs RHPs.
Definitely. There are degrees of being bad.
Best baseball name I’ve heard in at least a decade: Wirfin Obispo.
He’s currently in the Jedi Academy with Yasmani Grandal
I assume those two are apprentices to Justin “Master”son?
As exciting as his speed is, I think we all saw this coming once he moved closer to the big leagues.
The fact that high-A and AA pitchers were walking him at a 14% rate last year is mind boggling considering almost all his value on offense is derived from his speed and skill on the bases.
Sometimes knowing a walk is the worst thing you can do makes it even harder to find the strike zone. Especially for A/AA pitchers.
Let’s also keep in mind that he may simply need to make an adjustment. These stats, such as they are, are only over a month or so. It’s just that the scouting angle doesn’t look great, either. Still time, though.
I don’t understand why they tried to turn him into a switch-hitter in the first place. When you’ve got ludicrous speed already, how much does it help to get out of the box just a little bit faster? Can it possibly help enough to offset the likely decline in hitting skill from that side? Especially once you factor in the fact that from the right side he will be pulling grounders away from first, while from the left he’ll be pulling them towards first (giving him less time to get to the bag anyway)?
I just don’t understand… why fix what wasn’t broken?
The primary reason for batting LH is not because it gets you out of the box just a little bit faster.
over/under b-ham steals in the majors this year?
2.5
I have little doubt that the guy *could* break records on the MLB basepaths. His speed is unreal. But the question is how valuable is a potentially REALLY good Juan Pierre?
I would pay money to watch him play, it really is an experience…but I don’t know how much he’s worth as an everyday leadoff hitter.
Wirfrin Obispo? Is this a real person?
What the hell kind of name is Stringer, anyway?
God dammit. I was here first.
13 years, and 4 months.
Where’s Wallace, String?
I got to see him play last week hitting from the left side and was amazed at some of the pitches he swung at. He seemed to swing at every breaking ball like it was a fastball; it was like watching a little league hitter against the only pitcher he faces all year with a real breaking ball.
Can we get his batting average from each side of the plate this year? I can’t find it here and other site are blocked where I am, but if he can’t hit his weight as a lefty, let’s pull the plug on that crap!
Isn’t batting average blasphemy here….
Vs. lefties .196 in 46 abs
Vs righties .185 in 65 abs
I think these splits are too small to mean anything, and I’m too lazy to look up his career splits for you. Oddly enough he has 10 walks vs righties (so hitting left) vs 0 walks against lefties (hitting right presumably). Again sss.
Minor League Central has splits for each season. For his career, he’s a .288/.380/.376 LHH and .276/.327/.384 RHH. So it seems he has a better eye from the left side – possibly a reason why they keep him hitting from that side – and more power from the right side, which makes sense. My only concern about the LHH numbers are that the slaps that are singles now won’t all be once he gets to the majors. Again, it’s hard to tell much from MiLB stats because of competition, etc.
His batted ball stats aren’t available since he’s in the minors but his BABIP is pretty darn low right now. (0.236) Unfortunately, he’s not walking that much compared to last year and his K rate is only slightly better. I.E, his BB/K ratio isn’t good compared to last year.
So if we adjust for his xBABIP, everything goes up, but it still isn’t nearly enough to compensate for his 48wRC. Does anybody have the xBABIP calculator?
At least he is 17/19 on steals in 121 at bats and apparently his defense is ok.
“And even then it only nets you an everyday regular who should probably hit sixth or seventh to utilize his speed.”
“Should” is the key word there. If Dusty is still around when he comes up, I guarantee he leads off. A centerfielder with speed and little hitting? PERFECT lead off man lol
Corey Patterson hit leadoff. Corey Patterson might be the biggest joke I’ve seen hold a MLB job.