Let’s Find a Multi-Inning Reliever

The height of fashion in baseball analysis three years ago was finding a reliever who could pitch multiple innings. Some people called it the Andrew Miller role, though Miller was never a perfect example of it — aside from the memorable 2016 playoffs, Miller was more of a setup man who occasionally threw the seventh in his tenure on the Indians. Chris Devenski and Chad Green were trendy examples in 2017, and Mets swingmen Seth Lugo and Robert Gsellman both performed admirably in long relief in 2018.

Whichever example you turn to, the value of having a reliever who can perform over multiple innings of work is clear to see. As starters throw fewer innings across baseball, having relievers who can handle larger workloads is increasingly important. A two-inning reliever might have been a luxury in 2009, when a seven-man bullpen would cover two or three innings a night, but 2019 bullpens go eight deep and pick up nearly four innings a game. Using relievers to cover more innings naturally results in weaker relievers getting into games, so getting extra frames out of good relievers has never been more valuable.

That’s the theory, anyway. In practice, the role isn’t easy to fill. If you’re looking for someone to throw a few innings of relief, they have to be a decent pitcher. There’s not really much point in filling bulk innings with replacement-level stuff — you could just use the back of the bullpen for that. There’s just one problem with that: a good pitcher who can throw multiple innings mostly describes a starter, and getting rid of a good starter to create a good reliever doesn’t make that much sense. Blake Snell, for example, would probably make a great reliever, but that would be a waste of his talent.

Still, not every starter is ideally cast. Take the pitchers I listed above: Andrew Miller was a failed starter. Devenski, Lugo, and Gsellman had various degrees of success as starters before their teams made them full-time bullpen members. If we take care, we can search for pitchers who struggle as starters but might excel as relievers. Will all of these be perfect fits? Perhaps not. Most likely not, even. Still, finding a few players who would be better as relievers could be quite valuable to a few teams, and if nothing else, it’s a fun intellectual exercise. Let’s try!

What’s one reason a pitcher might not be well-suited to starting? The first place my mind goes is fatigue. When you watch a great starter pitch, it often seems like they’re getting stronger as the game goes on, maintaining or even increasing velocity and mixing in new pitches. How many times have you seen Justin Verlander or Jacob deGrom spike a 98 on the radar gun in an important spot in the seventh inning? That’s a valuable skill, and one we wouldn’t want to waste on a reliever.

To look for this effect, you might think we should look at each pitcher’s effectiveness by times through the order — but you’d be wrong. That kind of split takes forever to stabilize, such that we almost certainly don’t have enough data in time for that data to matter. Instead, I want to look at pitchers whose skill level measurably changes as they throw more pitches. To test for this, I looked at every four-seam fastball thrown in the first 20 pitches of an appearance to find each pitcher’s early velocity. Then I looked at every four-seamer thrown between the 51st and 70th pitches of an appearance to look for “late velocity.” I then repeated the process with two-seamers (doing all fastballs together might yield weird results for pitchers who throw both). Take a look at the pitchers who have thrown at least 15 pitches both early and late, and who lose at least one mph off their fastballs as the game goes on.

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Fastball Velocity Decliners
Pitcher Early Velo Late Velo Difference
Jon Lester 90.9 89.9 -1
Jonathan Loaisiga 96.8 95.8 -1
Brad Keller 93.1 92 -1.1
Domingo German 94.6 93.5 -1.1
Gregory Soto 94.9 93.7 -1.2
Nick Pivetta 94.8 93.6 -1.2
Tyson Ross 91 89.7 -1.3
Nathan Eovaldi 98.5 97.2 -1.3
Luis Castillo 97 95.7 -1.3
Sean Newcomb 93.5 92.1 -1.4
Pablo Lopez 94.1 92.6 -1.5
Aaron Nola 93.7 92.2 -1.5

This is a good place to start — these pitchers are bringing measurably worse stuff to the mound as the game wears on. There’s wide dispersion on this list; it’s hard to seriously argue that Jon Lester is better suited to relieving than starting, and given Luis Castillo’s phenomenal start, Reds fans would mutiny if he transitioned to the bullpen. Still, there might be something here. The Braves already made Sean Newcomb a multi-inning reliever this year. Seeing a team’s revealed preferences line up with some of our criteria is a good sign that we’re onto something.

The next cut, I’ll admit, is a bit less scientific than the first; it’s more down to personal preferences than an absolute rule. Still, I think it generally speaks to team preferences, so we’re going to run with it. I don’t want to make a potential four-pitch monster into a reliever — if a pitcher has a deep bench of usable pitches, I’m willing to believe he stands a better than average chance of being effective deep into games. Let’s cut out pitchers who throw their top two pitches less than 80% of the time — an arbitrary cutoff, to be sure, but we need some cutoff, and I think this one does a good job of weeding out starters with three good pitches. Here’s that list again, this time with our new criteria added.

Decliners With Few Pitches
Pitcher Early Velo Late Velo Difference Top 2 %
Jonathan Loaisiga 96.8 95.8 -1 84
Brad Keller 93.1 92 -1.1 97.5
Gregory Soto 94.9 93.7 -1.2 95.6
Nick Pivetta 94.8 93.6 -1.2 81.1
Luis Castillo 97 95.7 -1.3 86.1
Sean Newcomb 93.5 92.1 -1.4 81.2
Aaron Nola 93.7 92.2 -1.5 81.6

Now we’re getting down to brass tacks — seven pitchers, all of whom are heavily reliant on two pitches and whose fastballs lose steam in later innings. Newcomb is already a reliever. Keller was a swingman last year, and the Royals are running him out in the starting rotation more out of a sense of adventure and discovery than because he’s best suited for that role. Loaisiga would probably be a reliever if the Yankees didn’t have an embarrassment of riches in their ‘pen. These tests seem to be on the right track.

With the list down to seven names, though, there are still two pitchers on here who won’t be transitioning to the bullpen anytime soon — Nola and Castillo. Rather than try to make any more generalized cuts, let’s look at the remaining cases on their respective merits to decide if each pitcher is better-suited to the multi-inning reliever role than their current starting job.

The first three are easy. I think there’s enough evidence to say that Newcomb, Keller, and Loaisiga, at least in their current incarnations, would ideally be high-leverage bullpen arms. All three boast excellent stuff with little variety, and none of them are so good as starters that they’re too valuable to move over. In fact, were it not for the unique circumstances Keller and Loaisiga find themselves in, all three of these conversions might have happened already.

On the other hand, Nola and Castillo are clearly not relief candidates. He might be struggling this season, Nola put up a 5-WAR effort last year, for goodness sake. Let’s handle his case first. His 1.5 mph velocity loss as the game goes on is scary, but it’s also a career-worst. Last year and in 2017, the differential was a smidge under 1 mph, worse than the major league median (~.3 mph) but more manageable. While Nola certainly has a reliever-y profile, with one excellent breaking pitch and a tremendous fastball, he also has a killer changeup.

His changeup, which he throws 18% of the time (thus just missing our cutoff), is a perfectly effective pitch that he simply doesn’t use all that often. I’m happy to exclude him as being too effective to move to relief, though if he continues to show big velocity drops later in starts, the Phillies might want to consider giving him some rest or having him feature his secondary pitches more later in games.

Castillo is a similar case to Nola. While he throws his fastball and changeup a ton, his third pitch, a wipeout slider with a 45% whiff rate, is tremendously effective. With his awe-inspiring changeup and upper-90s fastball, though, there’s little reason to use the slider more than he currently does. It’s also reasonable to think that the velocity loss affects him less than Nola — he throws so hard in the early innings that his diminished fastball is still faster than league average. If Castillo were less effective, he might be a good candidate to reinvent himself in the bullpen, but right now he’s too good for that. His current form shows the promise he’s always had — a hard-throwing three-pitch monster whose (excellent) fastball might be his worst pitch. No bullpen for you, Luis!

Gregory Soto is on our list, so he’s worth a mention, but only barely. The Tigers have given him three starts this year, and he’s compiled a 10.8 ERA to go with poor peripherals (6.08 FIP, 2% K-BB). His stuff screams reliever — his fastball plays early in outings, up near 95 mph, but it tails off later, and his only secondary offering is a slurve that he probably shouldn’t throw too much to righties. The Tigers aren’t contending this year, but trying Soto out in relief might be worth it, because trying him as a starter sure doesn’t seem to be working.

The most interesting case, the player I’d most like to see switched to relief, is Nick Pivetta. Pivetta has two years of semi-effective starting under his belt, so he seems like an odd candidate to ship off to bullpen purgatory, but his poor performance in 2019 has him cooling his heels in the minors, and the Phillies bullpen could use another arm. His stuff is exactly the kind that plays well in relief — his fastball sits at 95 mph early in starts, and his primary breaking pitch, a slow, giant-break curveball, provides a unique look. In fact, no curveball in baseball has both more horizontal and vertical break than Pivetta’s hook. If that doesn’t sound like the kind of pitch that a reliever could use, I don’t know what to tell you.

Seth Lugo is an excellent point of comparison for Pivetta. They both have spin-monster curveballs (Lugo’s has the highest spin rate of any curve in the majors this year, and Pivetta’s isn’t far behind). They both have sliders that are best used in moderation. They both have fastballs that could badly use an extra tick or two of velocity, and they both lose velocity quickly as starts go on. Lugo was a fine fifth starter for the Mets, but he became indispensable to the team when he switched to the bullpen, where he averaged 1.2 innings per appearance and put up a 2-handle ERA. I see no reason why Pivetta couldn’t pull off a similar trick.

For the most part, looking for starters who might be better suited as relievers tells us what we already know. Sean Newcomb should relieve? Thanks, genius, the Braves already told us that. Jonathan Loaisiga is fringy as a starter? Yep, got that one. Sometimes, the search for relief-profile starters is useless — sure, Aaron Nola and Luis Castillo have a relief-looking profile, but their stuff is so good that it plays in a starting role, so no one cares if they’d be good relievers. Sometimes, though, you might find a diamond in the rough. Is your team looking for relief help? Do you wish the sixth and seventh innings were interesting again? If Brad Keller and Nick Pivetta become relievers, they’re going to be incredibly interesting players.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

I really love how you walked through this, even if the final story is underwhelming. It seems that teams usually do this to guys who have problems with walking batters, but if you look at walk rate, Keller and Newcomb wind up at the top of the list anyway. And then if you look at the other names on the list, it’s a who’s who of guys who got moved to the bullpen. Shelby Miller? Moved to the bullpen already. Derek Holland? Bullpen. Zack Godley? Bullpen.

That said, I’m not sure that’s a great way to figure out command, since in theory a guy can be wild all game (and therefore in short stints) or fine all game. I’m wondering if there’s a way to get at this using your methodology, maybe looking at command and how it varies over the course of a start. Are there guys who have trouble maintaining their command over 100 pitches? Maybe walks over the course of a game? Or something like that?

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
7 years ago

Im not sure how you would quantify this or fill a roster with it, but from watching ATL, I had an idea of tandem starts. Teheran drops off dramatically 3rd time through. Pair him 2x through with Toussaint who gets 2x through the lineup as well.

maybe you only have 2 classic “starters” and then 6 or 7 guys who strictly go 2x through in tandems. Not sure if most teams could even do this, but ATL seems to have 6 or 7 guys with back-end stuff.

Any evidence of tandem starts being a vslid strategy?

Barnard
7 years ago

No idea if it would work in the bigs, but its pretty common strategy in the minor leagues.

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  Barnard

The tandem starter model predated the 8-man bullpen and quick hook era – I believe it’s used for developmental reasons, not strategic.

JimmyMember since 2019
7 years ago

It worked pretty well for the Cubs in 2017 with the Butler-Montgomery (“Buttgomery”) tandem. Both are fringe starters – particularly Butler – but together they formed a solid fifth starter that could cover pretty much every 5th game on their own.

rosen380
7 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy

I just checked their game logs side-by-side. Here are the days in 2017 that they both pitched and their combined innings:
5/19 5 IP
5/25 9 IP
6/05 9 IP
7/09 5 IP

IMO too small of a sample to really say it was successful or conclude that they could necessarily “pretty much every 5th game on their own”. And perhaps even too small of a sample to give them a combined nickname… 🙂

rosen380
7 years ago
Reply to  rosen380

I looked through the Cubs first two months of games in 2017 (85 games) and I count *20* instances where the SP and the next pitcher both go more than 1 full inning.

I guess one would have to check other teams to see if doing this ~25% of the time is out of the norm, but in any case there didn’t appear to be any particular pairs and not restricted to below average SPs. In the time period, Arrieta, Lackey, Lester and Anderson all had four of these games (Hendricks 3 and Butler 1).

The second pitcher:
8x Montgomery
4x Duensing
3x Grimm
2x Pena
2x Edwards Jr
1x Floro

In the 20 games, there were 18 distinct pairings, so doesn’t seem quite formulaic as much as ‘this is the RP we have that we are prepared to go 2+ innings with at this moment’

… so it might more be that the Cubs were just willing to go deeper with a single RP than is (presumably) typical league-wide. FWIW in these 20 games, the duo’s averaged 7.3 IP

dukewinslowMember since 2020
7 years ago

I was going to say this too- at least from small samples, Teheran is great 2 times through the order then the wheels fall off. Now I’m wondering if there are pitchers like him (Lester?) who strike out a lot of guys with less than impressive starting velocity. Might be able to fool people twice through the order but not thrice.

Rob
7 years ago

I’m surprised the author didn’t mention it, but long relief is going to be even more important next year when the 3 batter minimum goes in to effect. And I’ll be curious to see what the overall relief trend will become, if we will see a stronger shift to multi inning, good but not
great in different scenario relievers who can then hand it over to the set up and closer, kind of like what Lugo and Gsellman have done. I’m also curious if anyone thinks with shorter starter outings and the new rule whether we may begin to see a rise in starters filling in for relief on off days.

John Autin
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob

I think the new minimum will have less impact than many expect. Care to guess what % of relief outing this year have been less than 3 batters? (Answer below.)

Except in “opener” games, I doubt much increase in multi-inning relief work. The mini-trend of a couple years ago withered on the vine. Most managers are deeply devoted to “one frame at a time.”

(Answer: 13.7% of relief outings have gone less than 3 batters.)

Rob
7 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

John, where can you find length of appearances by pitchers? I’m suspecting that number used to be higher but has steadily dropped as starts have become shorter.

John Autin
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob

Rob, I use the Baseball Reference Play Index. Game finder: Player pitching.
“Find seasons with player games…”
Pitcher’s role = Reliever.
Under “Additional criteria,” set batters faced (BF) less than or equal to 2.
Get results.
That returns 656 games this year.
Then I did it again without setting the BF, to get total relief outings. And then calculated the %.

As for average batters per relief outing, a few different B-R pages will give you the raw inputs, but you’ll have to do the math yourself. But since I’m there already … the average this year is 4.74 batters.

The Play Index is an amazing research tool.

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

How many of those 13.7% were because the half-inning ended? Those would still be allowed by the new rule, so the percentage of pitchers who were pulled after fewer than 3 batters faced, and didn’t end the half-inning, was probably in the single-digit %.

DarthSader9Member since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

And what percentage of those 13.7 are L/L matchups.

I think the intent of the rule is to stop the single batter bullpeners. Who almost always are low arm slot making the same handed platoon advantage even more pronounced.

kylerkelton
7 years ago

I’m curious to watch Newcomb going forward. He looks like he could be really good out of the pen. Gained 2.2 mph on his fastball and he’s ditched that doodoo changeup in favor of his much more effective curveball, which he wasn’t throwing as much as a starter.

Nasty Nate
7 years ago

It seems like whichever of Chase Anderson or Freddy Peralta is not starting will be used as a multi-inning reliever by the Brewers.

Caleb Ferguson has been a 1-inning guy for the Dodgers, but he was a starter in the recent past so maybe he could go multiple innings. Ditto Robert Stephenson for the Reds.

BillClinton
7 years ago

I nominate Chris Archer

Chavac
7 years ago

Good article and very interesting read. I’ve always found it interesting that these multi-inning guys don’t put in more IP over the course of the year. To me it seems that if you can do 100 pitches every 5-6 days, why not 30-40 (or at least a full run through the order) every 2-3 days? I realize they’re generally throwing harder, but I find it interesting that you never see that guy who averages 2+ IP every time he goes out. I suppose it has something to do with muscle recovery.

rhswanzey
7 years ago

I’m not sure it’s changed all that much over the eras: 4th starter profile (3rd starter if you squint) walks about four per nine, slowly ticking up in the high minors. More guys than not in the Reds’ pen are failed starting pitching prospects. Hader, Diaz, Barnes, a big pile of other hi lev relievers all started into at least AA.

The thing is that it seems like some orgs. still prefer to specialize converted starters as short burst hi lev arms. If the movement towards multi inning hi lev arms a la Hader is going to be leaguewide, I don’t think we’re anywhere near that point. Seems easier to name teams willing to be as aggressive as, say, the Brewers than teams who aren’t so bold.

At that point, there are a number of variables that make it difficult to predict where the next Hader comes from. Is an organization averse to this usage pattern in general, or only due to the personnel it has tended to have on hand? Is this usage conducive to injury or reduced effectiveness, such that a short burst hi lev reliever is preferable? If so, is that risk uniform across all pitchers, or more/less applicable based on body type, injury history, arsenal, etc.?

How about game-to-game usage? Use Hader to get 5-7 outs, and you’ve knocked him out for the next game, and probably the third game of a three game series. If you limit him to 1-3 outs, you can use him in two of the three games, and all three in a row if you’re in the game 3-5 stretch of an October series. What is the benefit/cost of allotting all your hi lev innings from an arm in one game of a series as opposed to two or even three? The cost would be lower in a deeper bullpen with several hi lev options, no? The cost could also be higher in a situation with a weaker offense, or a team that otherwise plays more 1 and 2 run games than the average team – i.e. there are fewer lo lev innings in general, and more situations where hi lev arms swing a given game. Contextually speaking, I’d feel a lot better about using Hader for 5-7 in only one of every three games with (a) at least two other hi lev arms, short inning or not and (b) a potent offense. Milwaukee had both of these things last year. The bullpen is a little thinner this year, but they have still pushed him for several outs and 40 pitches on multiple occasions anyway.

I also wonder if you’re going to chew up a guy’s potential arb year productivity by riding him so heavy in pre-arb years. Devenski is cited as an example in this article; note that his HR rate has crept up considerably the past two seasons. He is no longer trusted in even mid lev situations. Did the punishing usage harm his shelf life?

John Autin
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

If you have carefully studied performance over time based on usage and workloads, please share! Otherwise … Pitchers get hurt or lose effectiveness all the time, even with the most cautious and conservative usage. Devenski’s data point is basically nothing.

vtsoxfan
7 years ago

When Gregory Soto woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in one paragraph into a monstrous Polanco.

(I’d doublecheck the names in that paragraph!)

allinwithoakland
7 years ago

Applying this strategy to the minors would be incredibly interesting. You could be a good starter in the minors but then struggle at the big league level, so maybe you could identify starters who might need to transition to the bullpen before they get called up to the bigs

YKnotDisco
7 years ago

Pivetta’s own teammate Velazquez has been seen as a better fit in the pen by some for years.

Danny Salazar, if he is ever healthy, would be really interesting.

Justus Sheffield.

Dinelson Lament.

Fan(s) of the White Sox and Marlins won’t agree but: Reynaldo Lopez and Sandy Alacantra.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

* Alcantara

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

* Lamet … although, perhaps we should truly ‘lament’ how good Lamet appeared not too long ago, only to disappear for various reasons.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

FFS, I guess I’m just making these people up. lol. With Lamet coming off of an injury (not sure when he makes it back) an only having 2 pitches to rely on, a once-thru-the-order role would probably be a benefit for himself and the Padres.

sgp2204
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

I’d love if Lopez was in the bullpen, but only if the Sox had 5 starters better than him – which they don’t. His last 7 starts, he was gone 42.2 innings with a 2.95 ERA and a K/BB of 42/13. Yeah, 6 of those starts were against KC, DET twice, CLE twice, and TOR, but that’s still extremely solid. His leash in the starting rotation is very long.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  sgp2204

Yeah, it’s not happening. Him and Giolito are all they got right now to eat innings. In this hypothetical though, I just see someone with a career xFIP above 5.20, who hits too much of the plate when he finds it, which leads to his home run problem, which leads to him nibbling and issuing free passes.

I’m thinking along the lines of him settling into something like the “Primary” role that Tampa uses after its “Opener” would be ideal. I’m not sure if that qualifies for this particular “Let’s Find a Multi-Inning Reliever” or not but either way I think some form of variation could be beneficial.

As far as his run recently: Those are all nice numbers that you cite. And you did make sure to include who they were against, that’s good. I don’t like to cite ERA but he did give up 6 ER in only 5 innings of work against the only team with an offense to speak of (Boston). During that same stretch his FB% was 54.7%, accompanied by a lowly HR/FB mark of 7.8%. That regression to come is show in his xFIP of 4.93 over that same span.

AlbyMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

I’d phrase it that Velazquez has been mentioned for the switch longer, starting the day he was acquired. I still think closer would be his best role, and I still hope the Phillies do the right thing and put him there. But they have to try everything else first.

Pivetta also has been talked about as a BP candidate, but for less time, because he’s behind VV on the development chart. And a multi-inning guy isn’t the same as a closer.

therealryan1Member since 2024
7 years ago

Did you mean Soto in the paragraph about Gregory Soto?

OddBall Herrera
7 years ago

Pivetta and Vince Velazquez both really ought to be in the bullpen. Make do with the 5th starter position for another month then go acquire a consistent guy if you need to.

OddBall Herrera
7 years ago

I am actually a bit surprised Vince didn’t pop up on these lists

AnonMember since 2025
7 years ago

Same here. VV just gets CRUSHED the 3rd time through. That, combined with consistent issues putting guys away and running up pitch counts, means he has shorter outings than any other starter out there. VV set a “record” last year for fewest IP for a guy who made 30 starts – 146.2 IP. The next fewest is 151.2 IP. In the entire history of baseball there have only been 22 seasons where a guy made 30 starts and threw less than 162 IP.

VV has “bulk” guy written all over him.

AlbyMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Disagree. Closer.

TrigauxMember since 2016
7 years ago

It’s like there is a team that is good at finding not quite SP and making them useful long men, or bulk/followers….the Rays.
Interviews with their coaches mention depth of quality arsenal and times through the lineup penalty more then pitch speed as indicators.

carterMember since 2020
7 years ago

Erod! Guy can’t go multiple times through lineup. I’d love to have his games with an opener.

ghostmav
7 years ago

Wouldnt Daniel Norris be a prime candidate for a multi inning reliever?

jfree
7 years ago

Looking for multi-inning relievers at the MLB level seems like the wrong place to start. Times thru the order may take a long time to stabilize but seems to me that its a great way to develop a pitcher from say hi-A or AA on. Once thru the order – then develop the stamina/repertoire to get thru the order a second time – then the selection/stuff to get thru the 3rd time without the 100 pitch limits – who knows maybe some pitchers will end up throwing complete games again more than a couple times a season. That sort of development would accelerate the progression thru the high minors and there would be a ton of once-thru-order pitchers ready to enter the MLB level and the development could continue AT the MLB level (some of those 1x would turn into 2x with a couple season MLB experience).

It won’t happen of course cuz it interferes with superstition and routines and scheduling and tradition . But ‘multi-inning reliever’ is not some alien job description a la ballerina-who-can-handle-a-jackhammer. Baseball used to be full of multi-inning relievers and swingmen and such before the tyranny of the 100-pitch limits and the 1-inning-max reliever. And they didn’t even have sabermetrics then

Tanned Tom
7 years ago

Robbie Erlin and Adam Warren. Two failed starters on a team whose entire rotation will be workload-limited. If only the manager didn’t have the steepest learning curve this side of Dusty Baker.

Lanidrac
7 years ago

I don’t know if he’d be better off back in the rotation (where he did pretty well last year) if there wasn’t an issue of building his workload back up, but the Cardinals have certainly unearthed a gem of a multi-inning reliever this year in John Gant.