Los Angeles Adds an Angel in the Outfield
The Angels quietly made a transaction of their own on Mookiesmas, picking up Joc Pederson, Ross Stripling, and Andy Pages from the Los Angeles Dodgers in return for Luis Rengifo and possibly a second prospect. The exact final names, most prominently if there’s anyone else heading to the Dodgers, are still up in the air at publication time.
If the Mookie trade was a Tuesday night earthquake, the Pederson move is one of its aftershocks. The Dodgers are splashing a lot of dollars onto their 2020 payroll, and whether or not baseball ought to have a luxury tax with steep penalties, that’s the world we live in and teams take it very seriously. Pederson’s exact 2020 salary is still unknown as he’s headed to arbitration, with the Dodgers filing at $7.75 million and Pederson’s camp at $9 million. The MLB Trade Rumors prediction of $8.5 million is the one we’ll go with there.
Sending Stripling to the Angels also removes $2.1 million from the Dodger payroll, putting the total luxury tax number at around $220 million. It does not appear the Dodgers got enough salary thrown in by the Red Sox to get under the first luxury tax threshold, but they do appear to be safely under the second threshold of $228 million. This is important because it leaves the Dodgers some flexibility to make other, small additions, while avoiding the second threshold’s steeper penalties, which could matter if the team’s in a position where they feel they need to pull the trigger on a big trade in July.
[Correction: Our payroll page for the Dodgers previously included Homer Bailey’s buyout and dollar figures for Yasiel Sierra and Hector Olivera in the team’s luxury tax figure. This has since been updated. The Dodgers now appear to have a chance to actually get under the $208 million threshold, not just the $228 million one. The exact amount the Red Sox are sending to the Dodgers to cover David Price’s contract is not yet public, so the situation remains fluid. If the Dodgers get under the $208 million threshold, it seems less likely that they would then spend over that threshold at the deadline. My apologies for any confusion! -DS]
Like Kenta Maeda, Stripling’s a nice player to have around, but with the Alex Wood signing, he’d probably be seventh or eighth in the rotation pecking order, even with Maeda gone to the Twins. Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and if healthy, Jimmy Nelson, all have higher upside than Stripling, who sheds a good deal of his utility if he isn’t in a starting role.
But Stripling’s comfort starting or relieving is highly useful to the Angels. The team missed out on all the top free agent pitchers, resulting in Julio Teheran and Dylan Bundy at top of the rotation along with Shohei Ohtani, who is returning from Tommy John surgery. If Stripling can be a viable fourth starter who throws five decent innings one week and then makes relief appearances in the sixth and seventh the next, the Angels will be happy.
The team also appears to have finally realized that even Mike Trout can only take club so far. They’ve been more aggressive in their position payer signings this offseason, most notably adding Anthony Rendon to the lineup. Brian Goodwin was a very nice find for the Angels in 2019, claimed off waivers from the Kansas City Royals when that team, for some bizarre reason, needed to free up roster space to add Lucas Duda. Replacement-level is supposed to be the major league equivalent to “free,” but the Angels got a .262/.326/.470, 1.9 WAR line from Goodwin. But as good a story as Goodwin’s 2019 was, his longer playing history is a bit less exciting and his ZiPS projection of .243/.307/.428, 97 OPS+, and 0.7 WAR is a considerable drop-off from those numbers.
As such, Pederson represents an upgrade in right field, though he comes with some limitations. Unlike Ryan Klesko in the days of mid-yore, Pederson has never been able to get his numbers against lefties up enough that you can roster him without having suitable platoon mates, or at least part-time ones. Chris Taylor and Enrique Hernández filled this role with the Dodgers, combining for 35 starts in left field in 2019. You also want to avoid using Pederson in center if possible, which the existence of the guy the Angels have manning the position currently makes easy.
The Angels don’t have the same roster depth as the Dodgers, but they do have Goodwin, who, while a left-handed hitter, has shown a reverse platoon split in the majors (.842 OPS against LHP, .767 OPS against RHP). This isn’t just a small sample fluke; he showed the same kind of topsy-turvy splits in the minor leagues. Jo Adell is unlikely to steal playing time early on, but the organization likely hopes that he makes a case for being Pederson’s caddy at some point, while also filling in at the other outfield positions and slowly taking over more and more of the right field job. Pederson is a free agent after 2020, after all, and Adell, along with Brandon Marsh is a big part of the team’s future.
Luis Rengifo found himself a regular starter at second base for the Angels in 2019, hitting .238/.321/.364, 1.2 WAR. It’s unlikely he’ll fill the same role with Gavin Lux on the fast-track to taking the second base job, but it’s also possible that Rengifo starts the season at second before Lux is called up. He has experience playing shortstop, second, base, and left field, and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he becomes the team’s latest Swiss Army knife, possibly supplanting Taylor or Hernandez long-term. And Rengifo has enough upside that he could very well be in the mix to be Justin Turner’s successor at third should he not re-sign with the team.
Also going to the Angels — and as more than just a throw-in — is minor league outfielder Andy Pages. Signed for $300,000 in 2018, the former Cuban teenage standout crushed his way up the prospect ranks in 2019. My colleague Eric Longenhagen shared that Pages will be promoted to the 40+ FV tier on this year’s Angels list and that he’ll end up in a corner (he played centerfield the most in 2019). He’s still very raw, but then again, he’s a teenager without a lot of professional experience.
The raw hitting numbers for Pages are very impressive; he posted a .298/.398/.651 line for the Rookie-level Ogden Raptors. That’s not quite enough to put Ogden(ville) on the map, of course, as the Pioneer League is a high-offense league, with teams scoring 5.3 runs per game. Lindquist Field is also a solid park for homers, with a 1.07 park multiplier for home runs over the last three seasons (this would be in the top 10 in the majors, tying with Guaranteed Rate Field). I don’t want to sound unduly negative — Pages is a real prospect — but he still has a long path to the majors and there’s a lot of risk, especially until we see him at the higher levels.
As the terms of the trade are not finalized, there may or may not be other prospect(s) involved, though it seems unlikely that any of the names added after this point will be significant enough to affect the basic contours of this deal.
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | DR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | .241 | .334 | .496 | 407 | 69 | 98 | 22 | 2 | 26 | 66 | 50 | 109 | 2 | 122 | 2 | 2.3 |
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | DR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | .254 | .325 | .402 | 503 | 65 | 128 | 24 | 7 | 12 | 57 | 48 | 104 | 10 | 93 | 1 | 1.8 |
| 2021 | .257 | .330 | .416 | 490 | 65 | 126 | 25 | 7 | 13 | 58 | 49 | 103 | 10 | 98 | 2 | 2.1 |
| 2022 | .257 | .333 | .429 | 490 | 67 | 126 | 26 | 8 | 14 | 60 | 51 | 105 | 9 | 102 | 2 | 2.4 |
| 2023 | .257 | .335 | .433 | 487 | 67 | 125 | 25 | 8 | 15 | 61 | 53 | 107 | 9 | 104 | 2 | 2.6 |
| 2024 | .255 | .336 | .434 | 482 | 68 | 123 | 25 | 8 | 15 | 62 | 54 | 109 | 8 | 104 | 2 | 2.6 |
| 2025 | .253 | .334 | .431 | 471 | 66 | 119 | 25 | 7 | 15 | 59 | 53 | 106 | 7 | 103 | 1 | 2.4 |
| Year | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | HR | BB | SO | ERA+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 6 | 4 | 4.00 | 32 | 15 | 92.3 | 91 | 15 | 23 | 96 | 110 | 1.5 |
| 2021 | 5 | 4 | 3.95 | 29 | 13 | 84.3 | 81 | 13 | 20 | 88 | 111 | 1.4 |
| 2022 | 5 | 4 | 3.94 | 28 | 13 | 82.3 | 79 | 13 | 20 | 86 | 112 | 1.3 |
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Important distinction, Andy Pages is going TO the Angels.
Came here to say just this…
I rewrote the first sentence and borked it up. I did have it correct in the Pages section below, just not in the intro.
So you had to go to…My Back Pages?
Pretty sure with the money the Dodgers will get from the Red Sox and the savings from this deal they are under even the lowest CBT threshold…
Remember, the CBT threshold *includes* player benefits. The actual straight-up salaries have to be down around $193 million.
The Fangraphs link you provided in this article to the dodgers RosterResource includes benefits and shows the Dodgers under $207m.
This is an easy mistake to make–the top of the page says $218M, the bottom of the page says about $207M.
But in defense of Dan, it’s unclear how we got from 218M to 207M, though, so I suppose there’s a chance that there’s an accounting error somewhere.
I can’t figure out which guys are making up that difference. Price is only about $1M difference, Justin Turner is about $3M, Jansen is about $2M, so we’re still $5M short. It’s not Pollock or Kelly, and a lot of the other guys are one year contracts. And some are marginally higher, like Jimmy Nelson. Something is weird here.
The $218m number includes some buyouts that don’t count in the luxury tax calculation.
I follow Eric Stephen (Dodger’s writer) and he has been all over the salary cap numbers, if the Red Sox are covering half of the Price deal then they should be able to sneak under or come very close. Not that it matters after two years under and reset penalties.
IIRC, it matters because the QO is way nicer for teams under luxury tax, and also because if they splurge next year in FA it’s another year under the tax before they have to reset.
The luxury tax total was $222 million this morning before Stripling was moved to Angels and after Pederson was. I’ll have to find out what the discrepancy is.
(Unless that is, I’m losing my mind, also a possibility, but I double-checked it before finishing my piece).
The thing to keep in mind is that the Angels were extremely right-handed. Ohtani can’t DH every day, and aside from him, their only other lefties of note are Tommy La Stella and Jason Castro. Rengifo was a switch-hitter but isn’t exactly a slugger, and Thaiss should take away the 1B job from Pujols at some point too but he’s an unknown quantity. And since Joc Pederson absolutely mashed right-handed pitching, he’s the perfect fit for this team. Trout, Rendon, Pederson, and (hopefully) Upton lengthens the lineup quite a bit. I like it for them.
Rengifo looks interesting. He’s the kind of guy who the Dodgers can really use, because he’s a switch hitter and can play lots of different positions well, so you can imagine him regularly filling in at 2B/SS/3B even when everyone is healthy. If he becomes a league-average hitter like ZiPs thinks he will, he’ll be incredibly useful for the Dodgers long-term. I don’t really like that they’ll be trusting Pollock in LF, but presumably they think that DJ Peterson and Matt Beaty (as well as Taylor and Hernandez) will give them enough there to make it work even if Pollock is done.
Still betting on Kody Hoese as a more likely eventual successor at third, given Rengifo’s offensive profile.
Non-zero chance that until then, Rengifo slides in as the everyday SS and Seager goes to third. Or that they bring back Turner for a couple of years.
Wondering about the discrepancy here between Joc and Rengifo’s projections and the ones from the ZIPS rollout articles. For 2020, Rengifo is 0.6 WAR better here, Joc is 0.3 WAR worse, and PA numbers stay the same.
Seems like a lot to move for just Rengifo. Curious to see which prospects go to The Dodgers.
They had to move Pederson for multiple reasons. If that’s the best offer they got, then that’s the best offer they got.
The Dodgers are oddly good at making gold out of hay.
After Turner and Muncy, you have to treat their…curious…pickups like the Rays’: they see something in the player.
By now it should make teams leery of trading “scrubs” to them. 🙂
Joc Pederson is a great one year stop gap that gives the angels the ability to keep Jo Adell down at AAA for the entire 2020 season. If the Angels manage to resign Pederson, they can move him to 1st in 2021 (a big upgrade)and put Adell in right. Stripling was a great, solid throwin.
I agree, but the only way Adell stays down all year is off he really flops in AAA or suffers a bad injury.
Joc is a great platoon hitter, and a decent enough defensive outfielder, but it feels like this will clog the OF a little with Adell on his way soon
Joc’s a free agent after this year, so there’s really no clog at all. They can bring up Adell as a platoon/DH reserve to get a taste of big league life while Joc holds down the fort this year and departs the next for whatever pasture looks green enough.
Ah, thanks for the info
The Indians could use him
The Indians can use most any halfway decent OF.
They just “can’t afford” them. Oficially.
Give the Angels a lot of credit, because it sure seems like the Dodgers had some moves they felt they had to make in order for Betts & Price to fit on the roster, and the Angels took advantage. They addressed two needs in exchange for a bench player, AND got a prospect thrown in.
Agreed.
But then last off-season, people were saying the same thing about how the Reds took advantage of the Dodgers’ needs so there is that.
I really like what the Angels have done this off-season. They’ve gotten Castro, Bundy, Tehran, Pederson and Stripling for good value. All of whom are at least average players.
Obviously, they still need a couple more starting pitchers, but the Angels have clearly improved from last season.
Rendon/Maddon will only make Trout better, and with any injury luck, they may have the best infield defense in their division. Simply put, they went from a “nobody” to a playoff contender in a couple of months.
For the most part I agree but what will Maddon do to make Trout better besides playing musical lineup every game?
I feel like this is what people say about the Angel’s, including myself, every offseason. They upgraded talent around Trout. They added some pitching. Still need pitching. Gonna contend for wild card. I guess at some point either the predictions will finally be right or we can confirm that Mike Trout is cursed.
Really like this move from the Angels perspective, but what if it’s just a precursor to trading Adell for Clevinger? How many of you would make that deal?
I hope the Angels don’t do that (would Cleve do it straight up?). Knowing the Angels luck with pitchers recently, he would need TJ surgery by June.
Only one more move for the Angels to make: release Albert Pujols and gain another 3.0 WAR. Could be the difference between making the wildcard and watching from home.
He’s likely to only play against lefties this year and occasional righties when Ohtani is on the mound.
I have some waterfront property in new Mexico to sell you if you think pujols won’t get 500+ PAs again
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the Angels to just use Stripling as a starter? I think they will get the most value by letting him get 30 starts. He has a career 3.72 FIP and a K% of 23.5% as a starter in 257 innings. I think he can be a really solid #3 if he gets the chance.
I think he’s going to see a lot of 5 inning outings this year
Surprised you didn’t take the chance to take a shot at Steve Garvey, as per usual.
Must the Angels now argue against Joc in arbitration or does it open a new negotiating window?
Not being familiar with LA/Orange County geography, does Joc Pederson have to move now that he’s an Angel? Like, I guess if you went Mets/Yanks you’d move but do you in LA? These are the things that keep me awake
It’s about a 40 minute drive with no traffic. Problem is there’s always traffic. I would move if I were him.
Scioscia never moved despite living north of LA during his time with the Dodgers.
If I was him I’d keep my place near Dodger stadium – assuming he owns and likes it – and rent something in Anaheim Hills.
I believe Joc lives in Studio city which is close to 40 miles from Angels Stadium. Unless he’s making the drive at 3 AM, that drive is over an hour minimum, and probably closer to 1.5 hrs in the early afternoon to hit the stadium when he’s supposed to arrive. Then another 1 hr + after the game, so if he doesn’t want to spend 2.5 hrs/day in his car every day (and that stop and go traffic really wears on you), he’d be best served to move closer to Angels Stadium. Plus I bet he can get more house for his money in a nice place like Anaheim Hills than he could near Studio City.
Studio City, distance wise, would be like Kris Bryant living in Kenosha, WA or Xander Boegarts living in Pawtucket, RI and commuting to their respective workplaces.
Agree that he’ll probably want to move. BUT! If he’s particularly fond of his home (maybe he just loves it, maybe he’s underwater on it and doesn’t want to take a loss), there’s a fella moving west who might be interested in a one-year rental.
So the real transaction here is; Mookie rents Joc’s house in Studio City on a one year lease.
Joc and Stripling move into adjacent townhomes (shared wall situation since they’ll be keeping the same hours and won’t have to worry about bothering neighbors late at night after games).
Kenta Maeda, flush with cash after his trade bonus and excited by the likely innings bonuses he’ll achieve in MN fulfills a dream of all Prince fans and buys one of the stately McMansions along Lake Ann in Chanhassen near Paisley Park.
Graterol and Verdugo, get short-term housing in one of the many slick new renovations around Kenmore Square.
The real loser in all of this is Luis Rengifo who struggles mightily to find housing on such short notice and has to look to Craigslist and ends up sharing a 2 bedroom in Los Feliz with, oh, let’s say Moe.
When the Toronto Maple Leafs traded Nazem Kadri to the Colorado Avalanche for Tyson Barrie, the two players just swapped houses for the year. I’m sure it won’t be quite that simple, because Barrie is probably gone after this year, and Kadri still has two seasons left on his deal. Still, it seems like such an easy solution (at least in the short term) that I’m surprised we don’t hear about it more.
this is the hard hitting analysis that brings me back to fangraphs day in and day out
Seems like a great deal for the Angels! Let us hope it’s enough to see Trout in October.
Sadly this didn’t age well Dan. 🙁