Mapping Out 27 Outs for A.J. Hinch

Astros, Yankees, Game 7. This should be fun. This has been a pretty terrific ALCS already, and with a winner-take-all contest to decide it tonight, this could end up being one of the best league championship series we’ve seen in a while.

For the Yankees, the plan seems pretty obvious. CC Sabathia is going to start the game, and given how he’s pitched so far this postseason, Joe Girardi will probably ride his veteran until he gets in real trouble. And then the Astros will deal with Tommy Kahnle and Aroldis Chapman, probably for at least a couple of innings each, with David Robertson around to try and redeem his disastrous Game 6 performance if Sabathia-Kahnle-Chapman isn’t enough to get through nine innings. If anyone besides one of those four take the mound for the Yankees, it will probably be because one of the two teams turned it into an early blowout.

The Astros, though, head into a potential season finale without as much clarity.

Justin Verlander was brilliant again to force Game 7, but Hinch’s continuing lack of faith in his bullpen couldn’t have been assuaged by Brad Peacock giving up a 600-foot home run to Aaron Judge, immediately followed by Ken Giles needing 23 pitches to protect a six run lead. Chris Devenski and Will Harris‘ regular season dominance seem to have been overpowered in Hinch’s mind by their small-sample October struggles — remember that Verlander was used in relief in Game 5 of the ALDS despite Harris being warmed and ready to go — and Joe Musgrove has been asked to face just four batters the entire series.

Unless the team has a big cushion, it seems pretty clear that Hinch would prefer to stay away from most of the relievers that the team relied on through the end of September.

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If I were advising Hinch, I’d try to talk him out of putting too much weight on a small handful October outings, and note that Devenski and Harris have been two of the best relievers in baseball for the last few years, and that batters put up just a .244 wOBA against Musgrove after he shifted to the bullpen. Having all three rested for a Game 7 should be a dream scenario, and I’d suggest that those three could probably be asked to get 9-15 outs between them tomorrow with a reasonable level of confidence. Struggling for a couple of outings shouldn’t invalidate what these guys have done for years.

But most likely, those three are going to sit and watch tomorrow. It’s unlikely that Hinch will find trust in those guys now, with the season on the line, when he hasn’t been willing to trust them when less was hanging in the balance. So let’s take a stab at figuring out how the Astros might get 27 outs today without using most of the arms they called relievers all season.

To start, the team has announced Charlie Morton will begin the game on the mound, as he’s the full-rest starting pitcher they have remaining. Despite lousy results in his last start, Morton’s stuff looked pretty electric, and a lot of the Yankees success off him looked like luck. But I doubt Morton is going to have a particularly long leash, because if there’s a starting pitcher you want to limit at-bats against in October, it’s probably Morton.

Charlie Morton Times Through the Order in 2017
Times Through The Order BB% K% GB% FIP BABIP wOBA
1st PA 7% 33% 57% 2.20 0.272 0.245
2nd PA 8% 21% 49% 4.20 0.319 0.339
3rd PA 10% 23% 49% 4.56 0.295 0.335

The first time through the order this year, Morton pitched like a legitimate ace. After that, he was more of a #5 starter, and didn’t pitch at all like a guy you’d want on the mound in an elimination game.

His career splits aren’t nearly as extreme, and you don’t want to rely too heavily on single-year splits for projecting future outcomes. In a Game 7 situation, however, you don’t really want your opponents to get too many looks at a tiring starter when you don’t have to let them, and Morton’s significant drop-off facing hitters a second and third time this year give Hinch a pretty good excuse to have an early hook. So, while Morton is Houston’s starter tonight, I wouldn’t expect him to go more than a few innings.

You let him get through the order the first time, and assuming he’s not in danger when it wraps around, keep him in for through Aaron Judge’s second at-bat. That’s 11 batters, and if he’s throwing well, nine outs. In an ideal world — assuming Morton isn’t going to go nine up and nine down, anyway — Judge would be the final out of the third inning, and the Astros could send in a fresh arm to face the L/R/L trio of Didi Gregorius, Gary Sanchez, and Greg Bird in the fourth inning.

Lance McCullers would probably be a natural fit for that spot, in fact, given that his curveball gives him a real weapon against left-handed batters, and he’s been significantly better against lefties than righties thus far in his career. Since his warm-up routine takes a bit more time than a traditional reliever, having him be the first guy in means he can start getting loose basically as soon as the game begins, and then they could use him as a bridge to get another 2-3 innings, depending on how well he’s throwing.

A tandem-start from Morton and McCullers probably gets you through five, and maybe through six if both pitch well. Assuming the Astros don’t blow out Sabathia early — which is more possible than the last outing might make you think — and it’s a close game, this is where we might see if Hinch trusts any of his relievers at all. Because if he’s not planning on handing a lead to Ken Giles — who has gotten hit harder than any other pitcher to appear in this postseason — then the final three innings might belong to the team’s two best starters.

With two days of rest, it’s pretty likely you’ll see Dallas Keuchel for a couple of innings tomorrow. He only threw 86 pitches in his Game 5 start, and it would be his normal throw-day anyway, so I’d presume he’ll be the team’s primary setup guy if they haven’t built a big lead. If Morton and McCullers can get through six, having Keuchel pitch the seventh and eighth would probably be Hinch’s ideal scenario.

Which brings us to the ninth. If the game is close, I would not at all be surprised to see Justin Verlander brought in for the save.

Yes, on zero days rest. Clayton Kershaw did this last year, throwing 111 pitches in NLDS Game 4, then coming back in Game 5 to get the final two outs and close out the series. Randy Johnson famously did this in the 2001 World Series, getting the win in Game 6 as a starter and the win in Game 7 as a reliever. The Yankees have had no answer for Verlander in this series, and given how shaky Giles has been, I would be surprised if Hinch let him give up a small lead while Verlander watched. His postgame answer last night certainly didn’t rule Verlander out.

Every pitcher on the staff. Justin Verlander is on the staff. Obviously, they’d rather get a big lead and save both Verlander and Keuchel for World Series starts, but if Hinch feels the season is on the brink, I wouldn’t be surprised if Keuchel and Verlander was the team’s primary late-inning plan.

Getting 27 outs from those four starters isn’t out of the question, and the team would still have Collin McHugh as a long-man option in case the game went to extra innings, or have him lined up as a rested Game 1 starter if the plan worked and they got to the World Series.

Of course, this is the if-things-go-well plan, and things usually don’t work out quite this cleanly. It’s quite possible that Morton gets in trouble in the first inning, and the Astros could be forced to go to someone like Devenski, Harris, or Musgrove early to squash an early rally. At that point, Keuchel probably comes in even earlier, and perhaps goes more than just a couple of innings. The Astros could end up using a bunch of arms tomorrow, even if they don’t want to.

But if I had to guess, I’d bet that Hinch’s preferred plan for Game 7 would be to lean on his four best starting pitchers, bypassing the bullpen entirely. Morton for 3, McCullers for 3, Keuchel for 2, and Verlander for the last inning. Don’t be too shocked if that’s the foursome the Astros throw at the Yankees to try and put this series away.

Either that, or light Sabathia up early. That would work too.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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jerms311
8 years ago

Hey, first! I like it. But seriously, whatever it takes to keep the Yanks out of the Series. I don’t care if the Astros don’t have a rested starter for game one, just get this done.

dl80Member since 2026
8 years ago
Reply to  jerms311

Yes, please. I don’t hate the Yankees at all; there’s no one left that is really unlikeable on that team (although I don’t love Gardner for some ineffable reason).

It’s the Yankee fans that are the worst.

OddBall Herrera
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Agreed on Gardner, he has never done anything to make me dislike him though. I honestly think for me it may be latent bias against a guy whose features scream Deep South, as bad as that may sound.

In general I just take little joy in the contrived austerity of the Yankees organization, give me Altuves and Puigs any day, it’s just more fun to watch.

OddBall Herrera
8 years ago

(just to be clear, I am not saying that’s an ok thing, I simply believe in being honest with myself about biases, because very frequently we see them play out in otherwise inexplicable reactions to certain individuals, and if you don’t dig to the root you will never fix it)

dl80Member since 2026
8 years ago

I like that the downvotes and upvotes for those two comments cancels out.

I think the reason I (irrationally) dislike Gardner is that he never seems to smile or be happy. I mean, I’m sure he does, but it just seems like he’s always pissed off and grumpy.

Sultan of Say
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

I think it’s rational to dislike Chapman.

AA1989
8 years ago

The hate for the Yankees is real on this site (author included). I thought hating sports teams stopped after adulthood…. Will only make tonight’s win better.

mryashin
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

You’re right. Hating sports teams stops after adulthood. Along with everything else.

soaktherichMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

Chill AA1989, it’s Saturday morning and FG guys usually have the weekend off. There may well be a “how will NYY try to beat HOU” article as well from a different writer.

But then again, it’s a much less interesting topic. The point of this article is not, “Hey everyone, let’s try to beat NYY,” it’s that Hinch doesn’t trust his bullpen, which is a story because his bullpen has been pretty good all year.

How NYY will try to beat HOU is pretty obvious because Girardi will just do what he’s been doing all along: hope for 6+ IP from CC, settle for 4-5, and go to Green, Kahnle, Robertson and Chapman for the rest. They only guy he doesn’t trust at this point is Betances (and maybe Robertson now).

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

Yeah, it’s pretty juvenile of the Astros to try and win. Who do they think they are?

AA1989
8 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Keep feeding the troll. Omnomnomnom

AA1989
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

moaaaaar

Sooted72
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

after your awful troll post (and ftr my normal strategy is to just ignore the dipshits) fangraphs hired me to write the “mapping out 27 outs for joe girardi” article in the interest of fairness. so here it is:

1. cc until he starts to struggle

2. best bullpen ever

hope you enjoyed it!

AA1989
8 years ago
Reply to  Sooted72

Wouldn’t surprise me given their recent hires!

Max Power
8 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

You’re right, Dave hates the Yankees. His plan should’ve been Liriano for 110 pitches, that would’ve been far less biased against the Yankees.

AA1989
8 years ago
Reply to  Max Power

C’mon, you can do better than that.

dwm8a
8 years ago

Kershaw had an off day between NLDS G4 and G5 last year.

stever20Member since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  dwm8a

yes. he threw 110 pitches on the 11th, then came in to throw 7 pitches on the 13th.

Verlander threw 99 pitches last night.

Alice Cooper
8 years ago

“His career splits aren’t nearly as extreme, and you don’t want to rely too heavily on single-year splits for projecting future outcomes”

Watched Morton for many years on the Pirates. If they get a few solid innings from him, for the Love of God, get him out of the game. When it goes bad for him, it goes bad quick. 5 runs in 5 batters bad. He’s got to have the ultimate short leash if the Astros want to stay in the game.

dl80Member since 2026
8 years ago
Reply to  Alice Cooper

“5 runs in 5 batters bad.”

Ah, so that’s about when Dusty Baker would be warming someone up, then.

Myske
8 years ago

More importantly, how do we get Fox to stop showing that terrible strike zone graphic that literally obscures the middle of the action on every pitch? There’s a floating white box and a pop up with MPH and a circle.

With that stuff in the way, it’s really hard to see swings, the catcher’s movements, the ball flying off the bat, and pretty much anything other than a computer’s guess at where the ball crossed the plane of plate.

Does anybody know of a live game feed that doesn’t have the live strike zone graphic in the way?

Youppi!
8 years ago
Reply to  Myske

I have a hard time not stabbing myself in the ears with Joe Buck blathering on and on and on.

paperlions
8 years ago
Reply to  Youppi!

Sadly, about the only thing worse is when he is interrupted by Smoltz, who is just horrible as a commentator…could be worse, at least there is no Darling.

mpom11
8 years ago
Reply to  paperlions

Yes, hating things is cool.

Alex
8 years ago
Reply to  mpom11

Even better is pretending to be above it while hating on the OP. You are more clever than the rest of us mpom11

Patrick Nix
8 years ago
Reply to  paperlions

You must not be familiar with the sport of baseball if you honestly believe Smoltz is a horrible commentator. He understands pitching better than any broadcasters in the game, and is the best in the industry at breaking it down for the audience. Your comment is completely erroneous.

sphenreckson
8 years ago

This is mostly what I’m thinking. Except I think he still trusts Giles, and would go to him over Verlander. And McHugh might take an inning from Mccullers.

chuckles
8 years ago

The Dodgers have to be rooting for the Astros here. If Hinch has to blow everything to just get out of the ALCS, it’s just going to be like the Cubs in the NLDS.

stever20Member since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  chuckles

1 small difference is that there are 2 days off between LCS and WS- compared to only 1 day between LDS and LCS.

mikejuntMember
8 years ago
Reply to  stever20

This ended up being offset by the rainout, as Game 4 was played close enough to the NLCS to affect pitching availability, when it normally doesn’t affect it in the same way. Coming out of game 5, the Cubs had every possible starter in a short rest situation, and ended up using Quintana because he had only thrown 12 pitches in his appearance.

Game 6 ALCS to Game 1 WS is 3 days rest (sat sun mon), so the Astros if the use Keuchel a lot have the ability to put themselves in a position where they dont have a good pitcher available on normal rest for game 1. They could go to Verlander on short rest (assuming he isnt used today, which he might be), but that would make him pitching 3 times in the WS pretty unlikely.

stever20Member since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

If they don’t use Keuchel today somehow then he could start game 1 on normal rest. Game 1 was only impacted because the Cubs used Quintana.

Also, while game 1 would be impacted, game 2 would be far less impacted than the LCS was.

mikejuntMember
8 years ago
Reply to  stever20

True, though they won’t have the option of using Verlander 3 times if he can’t start game 1, though its not clear that’s a good idea, given their lack of faith in so many of their pitchers its easy to imagine them wanting to.

mikejuntMember
8 years ago
Reply to  chuckles

And just like the Diamondbacks after the WC game; don’t forget the Dbacks making it impossible for Robbie Ray to start game 1 with the relief appearance.

Theres been some talk about Verlander going 1-4-7 in the World Series, but game 1 is short rest from yesterday and short-er rest from today. Do we really think Verlander can go 3 consecutive starts on short rest and not lose something along the way? Because that’s what he’d have to do to pitch 3 times in the World Series.

It seems unrealistic, and unwise if it was attempted.

sabr16
8 years ago

Nice article but a couple of things:

1. Verlander came in relief in game 4 of the ALDS this year, not game 5.
2. Kershaw had one day rest in the 2016 NLDS between game 4 and game 5.

The only pitchers since 2000 to relieve on zero days rest after starting were Randy Johnson in 2001 WS as Mr. Cameron mentioned and Miguel Batista in the same WS. Batista only pitched 1/3 of an inning in relief.

rastronomicals
8 years ago

Interesting discussion.

But trying to use Verlander a day after he completely exhausted himself is neither fair to the team nor to Verlander because of the high likelihood of failure.

Verlander was *gassed* in the seventh Friday. Frazier’s flyball–if you can call it that–made it clear to everyone I think.

It’d be a great story I admit, but you definitely shouldn’t manage based on the coolness of potential after-the-fact narratives.

Also, Hinch is completely justifified in not trusting Devenski. AJ has already trusted him too much. Devo is a good example of managing to narrative I think. They tried to turn him into Andrew Miller in the first half, and got a used-up pitcher in the second half.

Alice Cooper While Morton’s track record with the Pirates is certainly prologue, he really is a different pitcher this year with his increased velocity.
If I as an astro fan had to point to an Astros pitcher who was prone to losing it all quickly, I would actually point to McCullers.
So how about Morton for 4, McCullers for two, McHugh for 2, and Keuchel to pitch the ninth?
Maybe Morton gives up 2 and Lance and Colin give up another 2 between them?
And if it’s 4 – 4 the end of nine then you could go to the bullpen backwards, starting with Giles who is still a decent option because of his high velocity, and hopefully not ending with Devo.

OddBall Herrera
8 years ago

Going into the post season the consensus knock against the Astros was that all of their good hitters are right handed and they would struggle against dominant righties. Conversely, the Astros *ought* to be a murderer’s row against lefties, and I was shocked to see him do as well as he did last time out.

Obviously anything is possible but I wouldn’t bet on that being sustainable. If Morton shows up at all, I think this game is going to be about the Astros trying to cling to whatever lead they can build against C.C.. Should be fun viewing because even if they go into the 5th with a 5-3 lead every time Judge or Sanchez comes up everyone in orange is going to be terrified.

SubmarineSailor
8 years ago

While I agree that it’s become clear in the last week and a half that AJ doesn’t trust the bullpen, I wonder: Is it because he’s scared off by the small-sample late-season struggles pointed out above, or is it because of what he believes is causing those struggles? He talked during the BOS series about Devenski being fatigued and Harris still working out kinks after missing so much time (he made one appearance between 7/6 and 9/1) as if he may not be all the way back. Devo had to pick up a pretty stout workload when McCullers and Keuchel were out, he pitched basically every other day in June and July. He’s got something like two dozen multi-inning games this year. He just might be gassed. Harris is interesting because his underlying numbers for August and September look good as far as K/9, K/BB, GB%, and so on. His FIP is over a run and a half higher than his xFIP (3.99 to 2.40). So I guess I don’t see anything to show me why October Will Harris isn’t pitching like regular-season Will Harris.

SpuriosityMember since 2025
8 years ago

This makes a ton of sense, but I don’t see it happening. Is there precedent for a manager taking out a fully rested starter who is dominating after one time through the order? This idea made sense for the Nats in game five, and I can think of a few other games where it would have been logical, but I think the blowback that the manager would receive if the plan backfires will probably make Hinch think twice about making the early move, even if it is logically sound.

diogenes23
8 years ago

Have to wonder how strongly the narrative of “bad luck” in the last outing is driving Hinch’s choice vs the not so great match up stats.
Overall have to a agree with a 3ip limit as a bridge to lance +mchugh/dk setup.

And going to the jump to conclusions mat, nyy seem to have more trouble with fb/slider starters than finesse maniacs in this series.
Which would elevate the importance of a solid 3-4 ips from lance.

Right now the game margin seems razor thin and in the hands of the variance gods.

diogenes23
8 years ago
Reply to  diogenes23

Well C Morton blew my mind with that masterclass in controlling the plane.

carterMember since 2020
8 years ago

Screw it. I’m starting Verlander.

Jack______
8 years ago

I will hate the Yankees always and forever

Operation Shutdown
8 years ago

How about: 15 outs from Charles Alfred Morton, and 12 more from Lance Graye McCullers, Jr.

TKDCMember since 2016
8 years ago

That just might work!