Matt Williams and What We Don’t Know

Their season ended Sunday, a week — if not a month — shorter than had been planned, and the Nationals jumped right into their off-season by firing reigning Manager of the Year Matt Williams. Williams has been a lightning rod for criticism since the Nationals started to falter in the middle of the year so it’s no surprise that he was relieved of his duties, especially since GM Mike Rizzo refused to say he’d keep Williams past the end of the season despite numerous opportunities to do so. Williams will go down as a bad manager and his tenure will be a negative on Rizzo’s resume. Still, from an outsider’s perspective, it’s difficult to know precisely how bad these situations have been.

It’s often said we like numbers here at FanGraphs — and that’s true, as far as it helps us understand the game better. But managers are one aspect of the game that have, to date, defied attempts at being quantified. Matt Williams put together a 179-145 record during his two seasons in Washington. That’s a winning percentage of .553, which comes out to a 90-win average. That’s pretty good! Matt Williams must be a good manager, then. The thing is, and you probably know this if you read FanGraphs, those are team stats, and ascribing them to one person, even if that person is ostensibly in charge of the team, is probably a mistake. There’s a lot more that goes into a winning team than the manager, a fact that was underlined today by the Nationals’ actions, and I suspect will be underlined again by Williams not being snatched up by another team any time soon.

I said earlier that Williams’ firing wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t because of a few things. Locally, Williams’ bullpen management has come under fire, as has his handling of the clubhouse. Nationally, the big stories were the Nationals’ loss of the division to an upstart Mets team that didn’t reach 90 wins until the end of the season and the fight in the dugout between Bryce Harper and Jonathan Papelbon. That is warmed over territory so I won’t cover it in any great detail other than to say the fight itself seemed to confirm the worst fears about Williams’ handling of the team in the clubhouse. Then the way Williams handled both the fight’s immediate aftermath and the public relations aspect afterwards erased the word “seemed” from the previous sentence. It’s one thing to be good behind closed doors as maybe Williams was (or not), but to appear clueless and indifferent and rigid while your team is exploding on national TV (no pun intended) within 50 feet of where you are standing is another much worse looking thing.

Even with all that, there’s a fair argument to be made that Williams was a passenger on this ship and his jettisoning is perfunctory. In 2014, when the Nationals won 96 games, made the playoffs, and Williams won his Manager of the Year award, the Nationals lost only 417 man games to injury according to Man Games Lost, 20th most in baseball. This season, when they missed the playoffs and Williams lost his job, they lost 1,030 man games to injury, seventh most in baseball. If the Nationals had lost 600 fewer man games to injury like they did last season, would the Nationals have finished behind the Mets and would Williams have lost his job? If the Nationals won more games, then Papelbon probably doesn’t snipe at Harper and probably Harper doesn’t jaw back at him. And on and on.

The Washington Post has covered the Williams angle extensively since the Nationals mid-season fall from first place, and today Chelsea Janes published a list of seven decisions that helped lose Williams his job. It’s instructive, I think, to go over the list a bit. But let’s make it fun! How many of the seven do you think were bullpen decisions? I’ll let you vote and then reveal the answer later so no peeking!


Before I tell you the answer, though, let’s quickly talk about what Williams did wrong. We know he was structured in his bullpen usage — I’d argue to a fault — though as with all bullpen decisions, it’s difficult to know for sure because we only see one result. It’s not a choose-your-own-adventure book where we can compare outcomes. We further know that reporting has indicated there were problems in the Nationals clubhouse. We also know that there are often problems in many teams’ clubhouses over the course of 162 games, and problems in the clubhouse don’t necessarily signify that the manager has made mistakes, even if that’s what reporting indicates. Terry Francona wrote a book about his time with the Red Sox, during which he won two World Series and was heralded as a managerial savior, and even on those world championship-winning teams there were in-season problems, often ones that sounded rather serious and would have been fodder for big newspaper articles had they got out at the time. And those are the ones Francona was willing to divulge in his book! Presumably there are others, possibly more sensitive examples that he didn’t include.

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This isn’t to say Williams did a good job holding the clubhouse together. All indications are that he did not, but just to point out that those are only indications and even with that background we can’t really know what went on. Clubhouses are the responsibility of the manager but are composed of the players. Some players have outsized personalities that even the best managers can have difficulty controlling.

So, back to Janes’ article, which by the way I heartily recommend. How many of Williams seven deadly decisions were bullpen-related? The answer is…

[Drum roll]

Six.

Here they are the seven in summary:

  1. Pulling a starter for the closer in the ninth.
  2. Seventh inning reliever choice.
  3. Not using his closer in a tie game on the road.
  4. Leaving starter in to pitch seventh.
  5. Not using his closer in a tie game on the road.
  6. Asking Anthony Rendon to bunt on a 3-1 pitch in the ninth against the Mets.
  7. Leaving Papelbon in to pitch after he choked Harper.

It’s instructive, I think, and interesting, that a manager as derided as Williams is still being judged (harshly) on his bullpen usage. How many managers refuse to use their closers in tie games on the road? Many, many of them! Further, can you fairly kill a manager for pulling a starter in the ninth and for leaving his starter in to pitch the seventh? Maybe so, but it seems iffy.

None of this is intended as criticism of Janes’ article. I think it’s representative of the Williams zeitgeist, however, and instructive in that, for a manager who apparently everyone despises, most of what we can get on him is that he won’t use his closer in a tie game on the road.

Was firing Williams a good thing for the Nationals? I surely wouldn’t be alone by arguing yes. It further seems that of the sins listed above, many came from the same book, one probably called something like Game Time Decisions for Managers for Dummies. Managing is easier if you can push buttons, and it takes someone more secure than Williams in his decision-making to go against established thinking.

The Nationals face an off-season of turnover as many of their starters are set to be free agents so it makes sense to bring in a new manager, clean break, timing, and all of that. Williams is interesting in that all the known aspects of his situation point to an obvious decision and yet when we dig deeper we discover that we really don’t know very much at all.





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Phillies113
10 years ago

“It’s instructive, I think, and interesting, that a manager as derided as Williams is still being judged (harshly) on his bullpen usage. How many managers refuse to use their closers in tie games on the road? Many, many of them!”

Just because many managers do this doesn’t mean that it’s ok to give Matt Williams a pass on judgment.

Binky
10 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

Yeah, but he wasn’t uniquely awful in his bullpen management and people acted as if he was the worst manager ever. A disproportionate amount of relief-pitching criticism was aimed at Williams.

Phillies113
10 years ago
Reply to  Binky

True. I think part of the reason why he’s so lambasted is the other factors that go into managing (lineup construction, challenging, clubhouse chemistry, etc.). When viewed all together, he doesn’t really have much going for him. The bullpen decisions are the most noticeable moves a manager makes that the average fan notices (pause in play, TV timeout, etc), so it’s those decisions which stand out the most.

The criticism of the bullpen strategy may just have been boiled over frustration from the other factors of the job which Matt Williams did not do well. I can agree that the criticism of his bullpen management, in a vacuum, isn’t enough to make him the worst manager in baseball, though.

tz
10 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

Exactly. As much as say Fredi Gonzalez makes you want to scream with some of his tactical moves, you don’t get stories slipping out about his mishaps in human leadership.

Whereas Matt Williams, as a bad manager, is the complete package. I think the 2012 version of Bobby Valentine would have done better with the Nats these last two years.

Ampersand
10 years ago

As a Nats fan who watched (on TV or in person) several dozen games in each of the last two seasons, the thing that got to me were the sheer number of “Why would he do THAT???” moments. It seemed like every couple of games, there would be a something that made no sense to the audience and/or announcers, who would then try to puzzle it out. And – this season in particular – a lot of those moments led to unusually bad results, which doesn’t exactly help his case. True, there were a lot of factors that led to this season’s disaster, but is there anyone out there who thought that he actually ADDED value to this team?

Bryce Harper
10 years ago

“We’re such a great team,” Harper said of the 14-15 Nationals, who have won seven of their last nine since a six-game losing streak. “We’re the team to beat. Everybody knows that. We’re going to get hot. Everybody knows that too.”

Repetitive Troll
10 years ago
Reply to  Bryce Harper

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10 years ago

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10 years ago
Reply to  Bryce Harper

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Bryce Harper
10 years ago

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Well-Beered Englishman
10 years ago

I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the Washington Post articles (I think by Barry Svrluga) that compiled even more Matt Williams mistakes and evidence of his inability to manage a team.

One that sticks out was a 12-inning game where Williams had Matt Thornton warm up to enter the game five different times and ultimately didn’t use Thornton at all. Thornton was summoned to pitch the very next night, and the results reflected his exhaustion.

A blunder I’ve commented on before, on FanGraphs, was Williams’ choice in a June/July game (I forget which now) to bring the infield in on bunt duty, with two baserunners on, against two consecutive non-pitcher batters. Neither batter ever showed bunt. A ground ball squeezed through for an RBI single.

Williams was also known not to inform veterans before giving them days off – thus the story about Jayson Werth getting in a shouting match with him. Most coaches will at least text the player to say, “Hey, heads up, I’m giving you the day off.”

Well-Beered Englishman
10 years ago

P.S. About the Thornton thing, this goes deeper than bullpen use – it also speaks to why nobody in the bullpen trusted Williams and a lack of good faith between him and the players.

Paul G.
10 years ago

The Matt Thornton abuse reminds of this game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN201004170.shtml

Jerry Manuel repeatedly warmed up K-Rod, starting in the 9th, in the hope that there would be a save situation. Said save situation did not materialize until the 19th inning. At that point K-Rod had thrown over 100 pitches in the bullpen and promptly blew the save.

This was also the game where Tony LaRussa, supergenius, pulled his cleanup hitter Matt Holliday (necessary, Matt was sick) and then put the pitcher behind Albert Pujols when he could of at least put a real hitter there. Cue intentional walk (with runners on first and second!) followed by K, intentional walk (with runners on second and third) followed by K, single (only runner on first, so Jerry felt safe apparently) followed by double play by pinch hitter, and double (no one on after Ludwick was caught stealing) followed by ground out. It was like watching two Wile E. Coyotes trying to outwit each other.

vivalajeter
10 years ago
Reply to  Paul G.

For the life of me, I can’t figure out how that sequence of events took place.

“Cue intentional walk (with runners on first and second!)”

Ok, so we now have the bases loaded.

“followed by K, intentional walk (with runners on second and third)”

Wait, why aren’t the bases loaded anymore? What happened to the runner on first?

“followed by K, single (only runner on first, so Jerry felt safe apparently)followed by double play by pinch hitter, and double (no one on after Ludwick was caught stealing)”

Again, wait. Runner on first, followed by a double play – so nobody else is on base. How was there a caught stealing?

XanderK14
10 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

You’re parsing it wrong, he’s breaking down what Pujols did in each plate appearance for the rest of the game. He was intentionally walked and the pitcher struck out behind him. This happened again next PA. Next time up, the situation was slightly less dangerous so he was allowed to hit and he singled and the pinch hitter for the pitcher behind him grounded into a double play. The final time he came to the plate Ludwick was caught stealing and Pujols doubled.

Anthony
10 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

I think he’s a describing a series of Pujols at-bats + pitcher spot at-bats over different innings.

Paul G.
10 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

Apologies on the confusion, but as the other commenters mentioned I was describing Pujols’s four ABs after Holliday was lifted in a double switch in the 11th. (Note that LaRussa put the pitcher’s spot behind his best hitter intentionally when it was not necessary to do so.) Perhaps semi-colons would have worked better than commas. If you had followed the URL, it would have been clear.

vivalajeter
10 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

It makes much more sense that way!

Wobatus
10 years ago

Regardless, it seems that most of the Nats problem was they lost a lot of games to injuries and guys didn’t perform well when not injured. Desmond, Span, Rendon, Zimmerman, Ramos, Werth all below 2 WAR.

Will
10 years ago

No one has mentioned his roster management?

Why did Michael Taylor get 144 PA leading off? He had the second 4th lowest OBP on the team to the catchers (Ramos and Lobaton) and a pinch hitter (Moore). There were 12 hitters on the team who were better at getting on base. And I won’t even start on the fact that Taylor’s OBP was an extra miserable .229 while batting leadoff (compared to .282 on the season).

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10 years ago
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10 years ago
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10 years ago
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Montreal to DC
10 years ago

As a Nats fan I didn’t like the hire in the first place.
I agreed with many (including fangraphs) that him winning Manager of the Year was dumb. (He was terrible last year, too.)

But the moment I knew I would never come around on Matt Williams was the extra innings playoff game with Giants when instead of arguing for better calls, or trying to make a point he ran out and told the home plate ump “You have got to throw me out of this fucking game right now.” If you get tossed, I can live with that. If you deliberately ask for permission to not manage your team in a extra innings playoff game, that’s harder to support.

Harold of the Rocks
10 years ago

Maybe the Nats just weren’t as good as everyone thought they were. I think Williams’s firing has more to do with unmet expectations more than anything else.

kdl
10 years ago

Matt Williams is a bad manager.
Even if it’s the expectations that got him canned, this is a good result for the Nationals.

Baseball fan
10 years ago

No, it was injuries that killed this team.

SamNY
10 years ago
Reply to  Baseball fan

And yet the Mets had more injuries.

You do realize David Wright played less than half a season. Ditto TDA. Wheeler had Tommy John, Mejia (who we hate now) lost to drugs. That’s the starting 3B, C, 1 SP, and the incumbent closer.

Mets had more injuries and worse injuries to key personnel. They still found a way to win.

Dave G.
10 years ago

The bunting on the 3-1 pitch with Rendon was all the reason you really need. Shows a gross lack of understanding his own team, its strengths, the game situation, leverage, percentages and just good baseball strategy. There are many other good reasons, but none so encapsulate everything like that bunt.

Hurtlocker
10 years ago

Isn’t it the managers job to “manage” the team, not just make in game decisions? Matt Williams being oblivious to a fight on his own bench says a lot about his management abilities.

chuckb
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

I agree. I was appalled when I read later that Williams hadn’t yet watched the video of the fight. How could he have not noticed that the fight was going on at the time? The excuse that he didn’t know what happened and that’s why he put Papelbon back in the game was ridiculous. It’s probably worse that he didn’t know about the fight than if he knew and still put him in the game.

Danny C
10 years ago

I could care less about Matt Williams one way or the other, but it amuses me that all of these so called experts look for a scapegoat instead of maybe just maybe they overrated this consistently under achieving team (even prior to Williams). I know the metrics crowd (and I agree with most of their analysis) do not believe in clutch and leadership skills, but there is something amiss with this Nats squad. Let’s just suppose maybe they just aren’t good enough. OBTW Williams did not trade for Pap, Rizzo did, so why does he get the pass?

Well-Beered Englishman
10 years ago
Reply to  Danny C

Rizzo gets a pass because the good moves (trading for Gio G., Wilson Ramos, Fister, Roark, Morse, etc.; signing Scherzer, LaRoche, etc.) outweigh the bad moves (trading for Henry Rodriguez and Papelbon, losing Billy Burns) and the jury-still-out movies (signing health-risk guys like Rendon, Giolito, Fedde). Additionally, Rizzo’s primary trade target was getting Tyler Clippard back, but the Lerners vetoed adding payroll and the Phillies offered to pay for Papelbon.

Matt Williams is Rizzo’s only major mistake.

Baseball fan
10 years ago
Reply to  Danny C

Underachieving? The core team WITHOUT Scherzer won 96 games last year. This year was a perfect mix of underachievement and injuries coming at the worst times.

MH
10 years ago

It wasn’t always just refusing to use his closer. Sometimes he refused to use Storen in high leverage situations after Papelbon was acquired. The July 31st game against the Mets he let Felipe Rivero work a second inning to pitch to Wilmer Flores rather than use Storen or Papelbon, and we know how that ended. He may have wanted to avoid Storen because he’d worked two days in a row, but you have to make that push in such a high leverage inning of such a high leverage game.

Beth Richardson
10 years ago

Asking Rendon to bunt on the 3-1 count wasn’t the only time Williams did that. It was clockwork that Williams would ask a hitter to bunt in late innings with a man on base, no matter who good or comfortable the batter was at bunting. I don’t remember a single hit and run all season. Another bullpen problem was that Williams would leave in Blake Treinen to face lefties even though he was not very good against them. Williams did this on the last game of the season despite numerous instances where it hadn’t worked.

Will
10 years ago

Not only did he leave Treinin in against lefties, he actually used Treinin against lefties MORE than average. 42.6% of all plate appearances this season were by LHBs, but 45.4% of the batters Treinin faced were lefties.

Derek
10 years ago

Here is another thing he did during crunch time (when the Nats were trailing the Mets in the standings by 5+ games and needed to pull out all the stops to have a chance to win the division). On two occasions the starting pitcher faltered in the early innings when his spot was due up the following half inning. Once was Gio in the ~4th and once was Zimmermann, I believe. On bot occasions, instead of getting a one-inning guy up to finish the inning and pick a pinch hitter for the bottom of the inning, he had Fister – the long man – warm up, replace the starter, and hit for himself in the bottom of the inning. I can’t promise that both of these occurred in September (you might have an argument with 25 man rosters that you need to save your pinch hitters for later innings), but I know for a fact that one of them did. This is the sort of rigid thinking – I use only my long man when the starter falters before the 6th inning – that drove me crazy about MW.

He seems like a decent enough guy, but a MLB manager he is not. Good riddance.

Only GLove, No Love
10 years ago

I think it’s amazing that the whole staff got fired (or so I have read).

That seems to indicate that William’s was quite literally bad at everything: Tactics, strategy, people skills and hiring.

And I think there is no way the slaughter ends there: players will be turned over as well.

John C.
10 years ago

It’s likely that the staff was fired (technically, informed that their contracts would not be renewed) in order to give the new manager a chance to pick his own people. Rizzo was quoted in the paper as saying that they hope to keep some of the coaches in the organization. One of them, Randy Knorr, Rizzo specifically mentioned as someone that the team would talk to about the manager’s job.

What was more unusual was that when Williams was hired, he didn’t get to bring in his own people. He was essentially presented with Davey Johnson’s staff, except that he brought in one coach. The bench coach (Knorr) was widely viewed as the first runner up in the hiring process. One has to wonder whether the fact that Williams didn’t bring in his own staff contributed to his isolation in things like clubhouse chemistry and the Papelbon/Harper incident.

B
10 years ago

As many other have mentioned, Williams was awful last year, too. Game 4 of the NLDS–perhaps the most flabbergasted I’ve ever been by a manager’s ineptitude. Cameron wrote about it the day after: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fg-on-fox-matt-williams-screws-up/. Williams’s paint-by-numbers thoughtlessness just finally caught up with him.

Man Games
10 years ago

Now there’s a stat I can get behind and uhhh…

fastatlast
10 years ago

It sure was great to see the Nationals fail. You can’t say that about many things in life. You can’t say it was great to see your annoying coworker fail, because that likely means they did poorly at their job and they will make less money and potentially be fired and struggle to live. The Nationals failing was fine though, they are all making plenty of money, and the blame wasn’t even really placed on the players.

Plus literally everyone on the roster will be alright unless they do something terrible like spend all of their money on a lengthy gambling binge or commit a felony. Also the Nationals have so many Dongs on their team. Papelbon, Harper, Yunel, Espinosa. They’re just so easy to dislike, and they are annually crowned as WS champions before the season has ever started despite never accomplishing anything in their franchise’s history.

Boymankid
10 years ago
Reply to  fastatlast
Jon L.Member since 2016
10 years ago

I think we should vote to rank the mistakes.

BurleighGrimes
10 years ago

There has *got* to be a better way to say “man games” lol.

SamNY
10 years ago
Reply to  BurleighGrimes

Yeah, but the author makes such a false assumption….the Mets LED the league in lost games. Whatever injury bug the Nationals had, the Mets had worse.
Not trying to be mean, but the Mets are the better team. Plain and simple, they found a way to win.

John C.
10 years ago
Reply to  SamNY

Meh. Lost games are one, blunt instrument way of measuring the impact of injuries. Other factors include who was injured, whether the team had a viable alternative, AND the lingering effects of the injury even when they came back. For essentially the entire season the Nats were without some combination of their leadoff hitter (Span), their #2 hitter (Rendon), their #4 hitter (Werth) and their #5 hitter (Zimmerman). On the pitching side they lost a TOR starter for a third of the season (Strasburg) and a solid mid-rotation pitcher (Fister) for a quarter of the season. They also got hit by a key injury (Stammen) in a bullpen that the team had left vulnerable by trades and free agency losses.

The second aspect, the players’ being affected by injuries even when they were on the field, also gets overlooked by a focus on “man games.” Werth missed all of Spring Training and the first week of the season. He started terribly, then started raking again after 2-3 weeks … and was HBP and a fractured wrist put him back on the shelf for months. When he got back he again started terribly and again started to rake after 2-3 weeks. But by then it was too late. Strasburg only missed about a third of the season to injury, but his first half was terrible because he tried to pitch through a series of injuries. Etc.

Many of these situations were directly exacerbated by Williams’s decisions. His mishandling of the bullpen took a difficult situation there and made it worse. His insistence on playing Taylor in the leadoff spot for long stretches was pretty idiotic, and helps explain why Harper “only” had 99 RBIs. And his leaving of Escobar at third base even after Rendon had returned ended up weakening the Nats’ defense at both second and third.

The Mets were the better team in 2015, certainly after the trade deadline. But looking at the rosters I simply don’t buy that the Mets had it worse when it came to injuries, because I believe that “man games” is a crappy metric to measure injury impact.

David K
10 years ago
Reply to  John C.

So what, the Mets also lost QUALITY players in addition to the QUANTITY of games missed. Wright and D’Arnaud were probably their two best hitters, and both missed most of the season. If you paid any attention at all to the lineup the Mets threw out there in May-July, you’d see that they didn’t have a lot of “viable alternatives” either. Of course, one can make the reverse argument that a really good team is one that has more viable alternatives and doesn’t just rely on the starting 8.

Nats looked better on paper at the start of the year, but Mets proved to be better on the field despite having at least as crippling injuries as the Nats. Bottom line: Stop making excuses for the Nats!

Stathead
10 years ago

I wasn’t reading carefully and I misread the title of that book to say something like “This is Game of Thrones Time for managers”

… winter is coming…

Will
10 years ago

I’d argue point number 7 after Papelbon still pitching after choking Harper has almost nothing to do with Williams’ poor bullpen management, rather it has almost everything to do with Williams’ poor team/player management.

The other five are about Williams not understanding situational matchups or being too rigid in bullpen roles. But, if we ignore the choke-out, having Papelbon pitch the 9th is the correct move.

Sal
10 years ago

Let’s not forget that right after the Harper-Papelbon incident, Harper got pulled from the game. Clearly Williams knew what happened.

John C.
10 years ago
Reply to  Sal

It’s not at all clear that Williams pulled Harper from the game. There are reports that Harper basically said “I’m outta here” and headed for the clubhouse to cool down.

Now Williams had to at least know that Harper was unavailable, and one would think that, in a close game, he would want to know why his best player was unavailable. There are a variety of contradictory possibilities, but no real way to tell which one is closest to what actually happened.