Meet Blake Snell’s Extreme Fastball

Blake Snell is already back in the minor leagues, but he probably shouldn’t be there for long. All the Rays need is an opening, and over the weekend Snell made his big-league debut in a spot start in Yankee Stadium. Everyone understood it would be a one-shot deal, but Snell got to get his feet wet. That counts for something. And we got enough data for a deep dive. That also counts for something.

Most of you probably learned about Snell for the first time last season. He got himself onto the radar for something extreme, which is to say, he made his 2015 debut on April 9, and he allowed his first run on May 23. Snell is forever going to have his scoreless streak, but what he did in the minors isn’t what’ll allow him to succeed in the majors. No — he needs to keep on performing, and in support of that, we can look to something else extreme. Snell’s a pitcher, so he throws a fastball. The fastball he throws is unlike almost any other.

This isn’t a matter of velocity, although the velocity is definitely there. Against the Yankees, Snell sat in the mid-90s, and here’s a peek at one of his earlier heaters, to Brett Gardner:

Good fastball, up, borderline strike. Gardner disagreed with the call, but whatever. Snell’s fastball here, and on average, is extreme, but in a way we’ve only been able to quantify in the past few years. If Snell pitched 20 or 40 or 76 years ago, hitters would say his fastball disappears. They’d say that it rises, and maybe that it’s like it takes a hop half the way to the plate. Those evaluations have always been useful, and it does make sense that Snell would throw a rising fastball, given his over-the-top arm slot:

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As you know, though, PITCHf/x gives us numbers, numbers that can support or contradict peoples’ observations. I knew even before the debut that I’d want to look at Snell’s PITCHf/x information, but what I found later blew me away. Take a look at the Baseball Prospectus PITCHf/x leaderboards. Look at starting pitchers in 2016, and stay focused on four-seam fastballs. Drop the minimum number of pitches as low as you can. Snell rates well by velocity — he’s right there with Jake Arrieta and Vincent Velasquez. His fastball doesn’t have a lot of horizontal movement. Sort by vertical movement. Snell is at the top. He’s at the very top. The top fastballs by average rise:

  1. Blake Snell
  2. Marco Estrada
  3. Drew Smyly
  4. Chris Young
  5. Noah Syndergaard

Snell has pitched one game, and, I don’t know, maybe the cameras in New York were miscalibrated. Maybe Snell, in time, will settle just near the top. But we already know that he throws a four-seam fastball with a ton of rise. That’s a swing-and-miss pitch, and a pop-up pitch, and it’s a pitch Snell was happy to elevate over the weekend. Just a few hours ago I wrote about Smyly and how his fastball is a strikeout weapon. Snell is also left-handed, and his fastball right now is harder.

It might be a coincidence that Snell and Smyly look similar here, but the Rays love rising fastballs more than any other team. They’re the league leaders in four-seam rate, and they’re the league leaders in four-seam rise. They’ve liked this kind of fastball for a while, a fastball you can use at the top of the zone to throw hitters off the softer stuff you keep down. The Rays don’t have the only pitchers who work like this, but it’s safe to say the Rays know how a pitcher should use this kind of heater. Snell is in the right place. At some point the Rays will give him a long opportunity, and Snell will be great provided he just throws enough strikes.

One strange thing — generally, when you have a pitcher who works with a rising fastball, that pitcher puts the ball in the air. Consider Estrada, Smyly, and Young above. In the minors, Snell has actually been something of a ground-ball pitcher, which I don’t know how to explain. Maybe hitters beat his other pitches into the ground. Maybe Snell has changed something about himself. What we do know from his record is that he’s long been hard to hit. Just based on his fastball, I’d expect him to be more of a fly-ball pitcher in the majors, but, flies or grounders, Snell will go as far as his control takes him. He has the other things that he needs.

Though this post is about the fastball, I should quickly note the other stuff. Snell has a slider, although he didn’t throw it much in New York. He has a changeup that looks like this:

And he has a big curveball that looks like this:

The curveball and fastball blend are separately interesting — Snell showed a velocity gap there of 21 miles per hour. This year, that’s sixth-biggest among starters, out of a sample of 138. He has a looping curve, and at the absolute most flattering, it’s reminiscent of Clayton Kershaw, whose velocity gap is 20 ticks. Kershaw also throws a hard, rising fastball, and while Kershaw has far better command and a more powerful slider, it’s never a bad thing to try to borrow traits from the game’s elite. In some ways, Snell could resemble a worse Kershaw. In some ways, he’s like a left-handed Michael Wacha. It’s never been easy to make contact against Blake Snell. He needed just five innings in the majors to show why.

The fastball is extreme, and it’s in the right hands. The other stuff is solid, with hitters having to cover a massive velocity range. If a healthy Blake Snell fails, it’s only because he couldn’t throw enough strikes, but he keeps on getting better at strikes, and he’s now the closest he’s ever been. As I write this, Blake Snell is in the minor leagues. He’s going to want to get used to saying goodbye.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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free-range turducken
10 years ago

Great, another Jeff Sullivan Tampa Rays puff piece.

CasonJolette
10 years ago

Great, another idiot who refers to them as the “Tampa Rays” instead of “Tampa Bay Rays”

foreverroyal
10 years ago

Where do you think Snell would slot into the rotation? The Rays are headlined by Archer, with Odorizzi and Smyly after that. Matt Moore is looking good coming back from TJ surgery and Alex Cobb should be back at midseason. I am an excited Snell owner but I’m having a hard time seeing where he fits in with that young and impressive rotation.They could put him in the bullpen but he’d probably be better off continuing to get work at as starter in Durham. Your thoughts?

Hurtlocker
10 years ago

People poo-poo softball but in fast pitch the fastball almost always rises. Very hard to hit.

victorvran
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

Kinda apples and oranges. Softballs are bigger and not thrown 95 mph

sunshine_and_rainbows
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

You’re also closer to the plate and going underhand. I don’t know about the specifics, but presumably you can actually get rising pitches there (rather than the “how-much-it-would-rise-vs-a-normal-ball-but-still-sinks-because-gravity” we have in baseball) just since you’re pushing the ball up.

JediHoyer
10 years ago

The main thing is baseball has a mound. The ball has to go down to be a strike, softball is from flat ground and underhand.

BipMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

Really? If you throw underhand with a fastball grip, you release the ball with topspin, which is what a curveball has, which should cause it to drop, not rise.

You know what pitches also rise? Literally every other major league fastball not thrown by Brad Ziegler.

david k
10 years ago
Reply to  Bip

You mean “what pitches DON’T rise”, because if you’re throwing overhand on a mound, there’s no way to throw a strike and have the ball ACTUALLY rise. Unless you’re playing whiffle ball and keep the holes on the bottom of the ball, but even then, you have to throw a bit sidearm to get the ball to start going down and then start to lift (impossible to do with a baseball, no matter what kind of spin a human being can put on it)

fredsbankMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

ok

Hugh Glass
10 years ago

That curveball + release point reminds me less of Kershaw and more of the Cy Young version of Barry Zito.

rounders
10 years ago

I watched Uehara’s fastball tonight in real time and slow motion. 86 and 87 high in the zone or up out of the zone, not a speck of drop and no contact. If I recall correctly, he has the highest fastball spin rate in the show. When an elevated pitch does not drop at all, even at 87, this seems to have an extremely adverse effect on hitters, while when a hard sinker gets up in the zone it is hammered.

Back in the day, when outfielders took fungoes they made several pegs to base near the end. It was easy to see that outfielders with great arms had a hop on their pegs. Colavito, Clemente, Reggie Smith when he was young, were the ones I remember.

Mahoney
10 years ago
Reply to  rounders

Sinkers/breaking balls up in the zone are moving on a path that aligns perfectly with the hitter’s swing path, so the ball gets crushed. I’d have to guess that hitters are so conditioned to react this way off-speed pitches up in the zone that they would be swinging over Koji’s fastball or maybe swinging too soon if they pick up the spin.

Plus in Koji’s case, he’s mixing that with his splitter, making a big contrast in the vertical movement on his pitches.

Captain Tenneal
10 years ago
Reply to  rounders

Koji is not even close to having the highest fastball spin rate. I think Scherzer may take top honors there.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
10 years ago

What does rise mean? Isn’t it actually impossible for an overhand pitch to rise? Thought the rising fb was an illusion

BipMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

It rises relative to what the path would be with normal drop due to gravity. So “rise” is not like a plane taking off, but it is kind of like a plane gliding. The magnus force caused by the air at the bottom of the ball actually pushes it upwards, with counteracts gravity to some extent and causes the ball to fall down less than if that force wasn’t there.

RainmakerMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Bip

Great description! The key is that based on the hitters years on this earth and relative perception of gravity, the pitch doesn’t drop like it should. So much of hand eye coordination is based on these physiological cues and when a pitcher can top with those cues, the batter is left looking silly.

RainmakerMember since 2016
10 years ago

That swing by Tiexiera (?) on the change and his look afterward is awesome. You can see him say “alright rook, alright, you got me there”