Milwaukee Burn(e)s a Bridge

Arbitration is by definition a contentious process, but even so, it’s difficult to recall a recent case that left a star player so vocal about the damage done to his relationship with his team like that of Corbin Burnes. Last week, the Brewers went to trial with the 2021 NL Cy Young winner over a difference of just under $750,000 and prevailed, after which Burnes sounded off over the team’s conduct during the hearing. In all likelihood, this marks the beginning of the end of his time in Milwaukee; it’s difficult to imagine him agreeing to any kind of deal that would delay his free agency after what just transpired.
The 28-year-old Burnes has been the majors’ most valuable pitcher over the past three seasons according to our version of WAR:
| # | Pitcher | Team | IP | HR/9 | K% | BB% | ERA | FIP | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Corbin Burnes | MIL | 428.2 | 0.67 | 33.4% | 6.4% | 2.62 | 2.40 | 14.4 |
| 2 | Zack Wheeler | PHI | 437.1 | 0.66 | 26.5% | 5.5% | 2.82 | 2.80 | 13.3 |
| 3 | Aaron Nola | PHI | 457.0 | 1.06 | 30.0% | 4.9% | 3.80 | 2.99 | 12.6 |
| 4 | Kevin Gausman | SFG/TOR | 426.1 | 0.91 | 29.3% | 5.4% | 3.15 | 2.76 | 12.1 |
| 5 | Max Scherzer | WAS/LAD/NYM | 392.0 | 1.06 | 32.3% | 5.3% | 2.62 | 2.93 | 11.6 |
| 6 | Carlos Rodón | CHW/SFG | 318.1 | 0.74 | 33.5% | 7.1% | 2.80 | 2.48 | 11.2 |
| 7 | Sandy Alcantara | MIA | 476.1 | 0.77 | 23.6% | 6.1% | 2.74 | 3.24 | 10.9 |
| 8 | Shane Bieber | CLE | 374.0 | 0.87 | 30.4% | 6.0% | 2.70 | 2.75 | 10.7 |
| 9 | Brandon Woodruff | MIL | 406.1 | 1.00 | 30.4% | 6.4% | 2.84 | 3.05 | 10.3 |
| 10 | Max Fried | ATL | 407.0 | 0.64 | 23.3% | 5.7% | 2.68 | 3.00 | 10.2 |
| 11 | Yu Darvish | CHC/SDP | 437.0 | 1.13 | 28.0% | 5.4% | 3.34 | 3.35 | 10.1 |
| 12 | Luis Castillo | CIN/SEA | 408.0 | 0.82 | 26.2% | 8.4% | 3.49 | 3.31 | 10.0 |
| 13 | Gerrit Cole | NYY | 455.0 | 1.40 | 32.9% | 6.0% | 3.28 | 3.32 | 9.9 |
| 14 | Julio Urías | LAD | 415.2 | 1.02 | 24.5% | 5.9% | 2.66 | 3.45 | 9.4 |
| 15 | Logan Webb | SFG | 395.0 | 0.55 | 22.5% | 6.7% | 3.30 | 3.07 | 8.9 |
Among pitchers with at least 300 innings in that span, Burnes also owns the lowest FIP and K-BB% (26.9%, virtually tied with Scherzer), and is second in strikeout rate and ERA (again in a virtual tie with Scherzer). It’s been a pretty good run, to say the least. That said, his 2022 campaign couldn’t quite live up to the high standards he set in 2021, as his strikeout rate receded and his home run rate nearly tripled:
| Season | IP | HR/9 | K% | BB% | K-BB% | ERA | FIP | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 59.2 | 0.30 | 36.7% | 10.0% | 26.7% | 2.11 | 2.04 | 2.4 |
| 2021 | 167.0 | 0.38 | 35.6% | 5.2% | 30.4% | 2.43 | 1.63 | 7.5 |
| 2022 | 202.0 | 1.02 | 30.5% | 6.4% | 24.1% | 2.94 | 3.14 | 4.6 |
Even so, Burnes led the NL in strikeouts (243) and starts (33) and placed third in K-BB%, fourth in innings, fifth in WAR, eighth in FIP and 10th in ERA. He made the NL All-Star team for the second season in a row and received Cy Young votes for the third time, finishing seventh; one voter had him as high as second, two more in third, and a total of 12 (out of 30) considered him among the league’s top five.
When Burnes became eligible for arbitration for the first time last year, he and the Brewers quickly agreed to a $6.5 million salary once the lockout was settled — a salary that was more than an order of magnitude higher than the $608,000 he made during his Cy Young-winning season. On the basis of his strong 2022, he was projected for an $11.4 million salary via Matt Swartz’ model for MLB Trade Rumors. Even while failing to reach agreement on a salary for 2023 before the January 13 arbitration deadline, however, Burnes and his camp (he’s represented by CAA Sports) didn’t shoot quite that high, instead requesting $10.75 million. The Brewers countered with $10.01 million, a salary that — perhaps not so coincidentally — matched what 2020 AL Cy Young winner Shane Bieber, who like Burnes has four-plus years of service time (4.097 to Burnes’ 4.049), had agreed to.
On a percentage basis, the 7.4% gap between the two sides was the third-smallest of the 33 players who exchanged figures with their teams. The only smaller gaps were those of Gleyber Torres (5.2%, between his $10.2 million request and the Yankees’ $9.7 million offer) and Hunter Renfroe (5.8%, between his $11.9 million request and the Angels’ $11.25 million offer). Torres and the Yankees wisely split the difference at $9.95 million before going to trial, and Renfroe won his case.
Burnes did not, and in his words, he came out of the hearing disappointed less with the loss itself — he still received a 54% raise — than with the team’s approach to the negotiations and the trial. In his telling, the Brewers didn’t make much of an attempt to avoid a hearing, offering a two-year deal that he characterized to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel’s Todd Rosiak as as “pretty poor.” He added, “From the way we’ve viewed it, it was better off to really take the number that the club had filed at than take a two-year deal that they had offered. And frankly, it almost kind of made the situation worse with what was presented.”
Here’s more of what Burnes told reporters afterwards:
“You work hard for seven years in the organization and five years with the big-league team, and you get in there and basically they value you much different than what you thought you’d contributed to the organization. Obviously, it’s tough to hear, it’s tough to take, but they’re trying to do what they can to win a hearing. But I think there were obviously other ways that they could have gone about it and probably been a little more respectful with the way they went about it.
“I mean, there’s there’s no denying that the relationship was definitely hurt from what (transpired) over the last couple of weeks. There’s really no way to get around that…. We’re professionals, and we’re going to go out there and do our job and keep doing what I can every fifth day that I go out there. But when some of the things that are said — for instance, they basically put me in the forefront of the reason why we didn’t make the postseason last year — that’s something that probably doesn’t need to be said.
And some video:
https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/1626280778853388289
If the Brewers blamed Burnes for missing the playoffs, that’s some real chutzpah. At 86–76, they fell one win short of the Phillies’ 87–75 for the third NL Wild Card spot, but Philadelphia owned the tiebreaker, so Milwaukee would have needed 88 wins to secure the berth. Chalking up the miss to the team’s most valuable pitcher is way off base. When Burnes made his penultimate start of the season on September 30, the Brewers (then 83–73) were half a game behind the Phillies (83–72) for the final NL Wild Card spot; he threw eight shutout innings against the Marlins in a 1–0 win, but the Phillies won as well. By the time his turn came up again on the final day of the season, he and his team had been eliminated.
Dialing back, the Brewers were three games out of the last Wild Card spot when September opened, and while they went 4–2 in Burnes’ pre-elimination starts (in which he posted a 3.54 ERA and 3.01 FIP), they scored a total of three runs in those two losses. In the bigger picture, the Brewers gave 599 plate appearances to Rowdy Tellez, who produced just 0.8 WAR, and 580 PA to Andrew McCutchen, who produced just 0.3 WAR. Between those dead spots in the lineup, multiple slides elsewhere in the rotation after Freddy Peralta‘s shoulder strain, and Josh Hader’s pre-trade meltdown and its aftermath, there were no shortage of reasons why the Brewers came up short. The ace’s regression from Cy-caliber to All-Star–caliber is, at best (or worst), pretty far down the list.
In a statement issued by the team, Brewers general manager Matt Arnold made no mention of blaming Burnes, though he did acknowledge the general discomfort of the situation, saying, “The arbitration process always presents uncomfortable situations for both the club and player involved. It is never easy to present a case against a member of the Brewers family. I’d like to reiterate that we view Corbin as one of the leaders of our franchise and value him as an elite talent in the game.”
Again, quibbling over an amount that’s just $29,000 more than the 2023 minimum salary suggests otherwise, particularly with the Brewers in cost-cutting mode. Roster Resource projects them for a $120 million payroll in 2023, down from $137 million last year.
As to what Burnes might be worth, I asked Dan Szymborski to provide a ZiPS projection, then honed in on the righty’s 2023 and ’24 projections as well as the contract suggestions that go along with them. Here’s how those two years look:
| Year | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA+ | WAR | $ | $Arb |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 11 | 6 | 3.06 | 31 | 29 | 173.3 | 140 | 59 | 15 | 45 | 209 | 136 | 4.3 | $35.8 | $11.1 |
| 2024 | 11 | 6 | 3.11 | 30 | 28 | 167.7 | 137 | 58 | 15 | 43 | 197 | 134 | 4.0 | $34.0 | $17.3 |
Those last two columns with the dollar signs are the value of Burnes’ performance as if he were a free agent, then discounted for arbitration.
As you can see, by Dan’s model, ZiPS projects Burnes to earn $11.1 million for this year once his arbitration is accounted for, but he fell over $1 million short of that. The value of his two-year projection with the arbitration discounts baked in comes to $28.4 million, well under half of the $69.8 million he was projected to earn as a free agent. If you need another reminder of the way the deck is stacked against arbitration-eligible players, you’ve got one there. Getting back to his 2021 salary of $608,000, we might as well note that FanGraphs’ valuation formula credits Burnes with providing the Brewers $59.7 million worth of value. In other words, he was worth 98 times what he was being paid.
Here’s the full ZiPS projection for Burnes:
| Year | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA+ | WAR | $ | $Arb |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 11 | 6 | 3.06 | 31 | 29 | 173.3 | 140 | 59 | 15 | 45 | 209 | 136 | 4.3 | $35.8 | $10.0 |
| 2024 | 11 | 6 | 3.11 | 30 | 28 | 167.7 | 137 | 58 | 15 | 43 | 197 | 134 | 4.0 | $34.0 | $17.3 |
| 2025 | 10 | 6 | 3.21 | 29 | 27 | 165.3 | 138 | 59 | 15 | 42 | 190 | 129 | 3.8 | $33.0 | — |
| 2026 | 10 | 6 | 3.37 | 29 | 27 | 157.7 | 135 | 59 | 15 | 40 | 176 | 123 | 3.4 | $30.2 | — |
| 2027 | 9 | 7 | 3.43 | 29 | 27 | 154.7 | 136 | 59 | 15 | 39 | 168 | 121 | 3.2 | $28.6 | — |
| 2028 | 9 | 6 | 3.62 | 27 | 24 | 144.3 | 132 | 58 | 15 | 37 | 152 | 115 | 2.7 | $24.5 | — |
| 2029 | 8 | 7 | 3.71 | 26 | 23 | 140.7 | 130 | 58 | 15 | 38 | 145 | 112 | 2.5 | $22.7 | — |
| 2030 | 8 | 6 | 3.87 | 24 | 22 | 135.0 | 128 | 58 | 15 | 38 | 136 | 108 | 2.2 | $20.1 | — |
| 2031 | 7 | 6 | 3.98 | 22 | 20 | 124.3 | 121 | 55 | 14 | 37 | 122 | 104 | 1.8 | $16.0 | — |
| 2032 | 6 | 6 | 4.20 | 20 | 18 | 113.7 | 114 | 53 | 13 | 36 | 109 | 99 | 1.4 | $11.6 | — |
Beyond this year, that comes out to a nine-year deal for Burnes’ ages 29–37 seasons, one that would be worth $220.7 million if he were a free agent ($24.5 million average annual value) and $204 million when accounting for his final year of arbitration ($22.67 million AAV). Considering only the final eight free-agent years, that comes to a total of $186.7 million ($23.34 million AAV).
Pitching contracts rarely run that long, for good reason: pitcher health is so hard to predict that far down the road. Gerrit Cole’s nine-year deal is the only current or recent one that’s gone beyond seven years. And while we’ve seen several deals this winter that stretch beyond seven years so as to dilute the impact of a high AAV (11 years for Trea Turner and Xander Bogaerts, nine for Aaron Judge, eight for Brandon Nimmo), all of those have been for position players. Carlos Rodón’s six-year, $162 million contract is the only one since Cole’s deal (signed in December 2019) to go longer than five years — and both came from the Yankees.
In that light, it’s probably a bridge too far to project Burnes for longer than seven years, and perhaps even for longer than five. Even so, we can imagine what a some fair shorter-term deals for Burnes might have looked like, in part to illustrate the impact of having two years worth of arbitration weighing down that AAV. First, here’s a look at some possibilities for Burnes if he had signed a long-term deal this offseason:
| Years | Span | Full Val $ | AAV | Arb Val $ | AAV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 | 2023-26 | $133.0 | $33.3 | $91.6 | $22.9 |
| 5 | 2023-27 | $161.6 | $32.3 | $120.2 | $24.0 |
| 6 | 2023-28 | $186.1 | $31.0 | $144.7 | $24.1 |
| 7 | 2023-29 | $208.8 | $29.8 | $167.4 | $23.9 |
The first set of figures shows what he might have received had he been a free agent; by AAV, he likely would have blown past Rodon’s $27 million, to say nothing of the $23 million (five years, $115 million) given last year to Cy Young winner Robbie Ray and his more erratic track record. Depending upon the length, his AAVs could have been $5.9 million to $10.4 million higher without the arbitration salaries weighing him down. Even accounting for those two arbitration years, Burnes’ projected AAVs top not only Ray but also Zack Wheeler ($23.6 million) and Marcus Stroman ($23.67 million), though they fall short of several older deals that averaged $25 million and above.
Now here’s a comparison between the full value and arbitration value of deals that would start next year, either if the Brewers were to reverse course and offer him a long-term deal (go on, we all need a laugh) or if, say, a team acquiring him in trade were to hammer out an extension with him:
| Years | Span | Full Val $ | AAV | Arb Val $ | AAV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 | 2024-27 | $125.8 | $31.5 | $109.1 | $27.3 |
| 5 | 2024-29 | $150.3 | $30.1 | $133.6 | $26.7 |
| 6 | 2024-29 | $173.0 | $28.8 | $156.3 | $26.1 |
| 7 | 2024-30 | $193.1 | $27.6 | $176.4 | $25.2 |
Here the impact of the arbitration year is much smaller, cutting $2.4 to $4.2 million off the AAV depending upon the deal’s length. At full value, those AAVs approach the bygone deals of several top-tier pitchers such as Scherzer, David Price, and Clayton Kershaw, but those were signed long enough ago to have run their course. As for their value including the arb year, they still top Rodón and Ray and would trail only Kershaw’s $30.714 million AAV and Shohei Ohtani’s $30 million among those for a pitcher with five-plus years of service time; the former ran from 2014 to ’20 and was superseded by an opt-out, and the latter, to the two-way superstar, is just for this coming season.
Anyway, it’s hardly breaking news that the drag of arbitration costs younger players a whole lot of money, but in this case, it’s still worth measuring, particularly as Burnes seems to occupy an in-between spot in the pitching landscape. He projects to be worth more than several recent free agents but isn’t yet at the level where he’s enough of a proven commodity to bring home a salary on the level of Cole or deGrom.
The two years between now and Burnes’ free agency leave enough time for a lot to go wrong, and right now that timespan must feel like an eternity. Given the Brewers’ actions and Burnes’ reaction, it seems highly unlikely that he would accept any kind of offer that would delay his free agency, and while circumstances may change, it’s not hard to believe that this situation portends a trade down the road, either this summer if the Brewers are out of contention or next winter if he does spend the year with them. Maybe things would have worked out that way even if the Brewers had struck a short-term deal with Burnes instead of going to trial and stirring up bad feelings, but we’ll never know.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Pretty rough on a guy who’s as likely as anyone to put up the best pitcher season in 2023. I don’t think he’d have any trouble getting a 200m guarantee if he were a free agent today.
Yep – he’s been identical to Rodon on a rate basis, over the last two seasons…and he’s two years younger, and he was awesome in 2020, and he’s never had a serious arm injury!
The bidding would start at 7/$200m.
and in LA, Atl, SD, ARIZ, BISTON, CHICAGO…. THANK YOU BREWER MANAGEMENT. You just made our job easier…Watch, even when traded he won’t sign any extension. That will lower the return to Brewers.. and deserved.. $750,000 in todays salary explosion? Just stupid… but hey the Arn guy said the Brewer Managenpment was right… think about this the Arb has to pick one side… maybe the difference in $$ was $250k….
Boston shouldn’t be on that list, haha.
Burnes is originally from CA. If I had to guess the 5 teams he may sign with it would be NYY, NYM, LAD, LAA maybe SF. I highly doubt Atl or the cubs will pony up for him. We will see in 2 years.
You have to be pretty stupid to think the Brewers made it easier to sign Burnes two years from now. Assuming he stays healthy it’s very likely Burnes is going to sign the largest contract given to a pitcher in baseball history. Nothing the Brewers did or did not do will change that.
A guy with one 200-inning season through age 27 is going to top Cole’s contract?
“Assuming he stays healthy” is doing a whole lot of work here but, yeah, if Burnes is healthy and pitches at his 2022 level he’s going to top that contract. Look at the market this winter.
Assuming he stays healthy he will likely have 3 200 innings seasons by his free agent year. Also I think the lack of innings pitched will be one of the reasons he will get the biggest contract for a pitcher ever. He will have pitched enough to have proven he is an ace, but he will have a lot less wear on his arm than the normal ace pitcher will have. Part of that is due to his struggles early in his career, the other part is due to the shorten season due to the pandemic. The other part is due to how the Brewers treated their starters with kid gloves. So his huge pay day in 2 years will be in part due to the brewers in more than one way. The same brewers organization he supposedly is upset at right now. Somewhat ironic.
Just a thought… remember how Cole left Pirates? Very similar.
We don’t know the particular argument the team employed, but even bringing up the Brewers falling short of a Wild Card berth in the context of Burnes’ arbitration case leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and I’m just a random fan of another team. August was his worst month, but as Jay points out, he bounced back in September. Regardless, all the wins count the same and he had a great year, cumulatively. Everyone knows the score going into it—arbitration cases don’t generate good will—but that would stick in my craw as player, too.
I find it hard to believe that teams are still going to arbitration with players. It seems that most teams should be able to find a middle ground with players and even setting aside longterm repercussions of teams doing this, the potential short term harm in bad mouthing a player that a team will rely on seems like it wouldn’t be in that team’s best interest.
Yeah. But even if you grant that there’s some gap that’s so large it’d be worth it, in some hypothetical situation where the player was (in the team’s view) just crazily overvaluing himself, it’s still totally bizarre to go to arbitration with a star player over a sub-one-million number of dollars. Just split the difference! The reputational damage to the front office, the problems they’re now going to face with future free agents and future arbitration cases, has to be worth more than this.
The player has to accept splitting the difference. The ~$350k difference between Burnes and the Brewers here isn’t much in the scope of MLB contracts, but it’s still 50% of what the guy was making two years ago. It was obviously an important enough amount that he was willing to risk the relationship with the team.
Then the team should’ve just folded and given it to him. But I think the message from Burnes’s side is that there wasn’t much relationship left to risk, i.e. that he already knows he’s not going to be there when he hits free agency.
I would say it’s not just the 350K this year the Brewers are considering, it’s potentially a million+ next year in Arb 3, plus the risk of other arb-eligible players in the future gaining leverage if the team has a reputation of folding. The Brewers’ track record seems to show that they don’t care very deeply about attracting big-name free agents, and the fan PR hit for these kinds of things often blows over. Esp. fans of teams like the Brewers I’d imagine are resigned to losing many of their talented players at the trade deadline or when they reach free agency.
I’m not resigned to losing Burnes.
After this whole affair, you should at least warm to it a little…it’s not a certainty but this is pushing it in that direction.
Unless it’s last year of arbitration, those seemingly small differences add up over multiple years, as the next year’s arbitration salary uses the previous year’s salary as a starting point.
Why would free agents care about what a team does in arbitration? If they have more than 6 years of service time they would not be subject to arbitration. If they are a free agent with less than 6 years of service time they probably aren’t going to be that picky because some other team decided they weren’t worth paying them the arbitration figure in the first place. Those players are generally just happy to get a big league contract.
Furthermore the Brewers had like 16 arbitration cases this year. They settled all but 1 before the hearing. I kind of doubt this makes a dent at all in the front office reputation. Do any of you remember the braves taking Max Fried to arbitration over $200k after he finished second in the cy young voting? I didn’t think so. Much to do about nothing.
You are, of course, correct, but this is a league that just saw one of its smallest market teams AND biggest market teams throw a lot of money around…and reacted by creating the Baseball Committee on UnAmerican Spending. So, no, I’m not surprised that (most) owners have no interest in retaining happy and successful players if it costs them $0.01 or more.
I read it as pettiness and people ranking personal wins ahead of the overall result of the hearing.
Yeah, it’s shocking to me, especially with a player so valuable to the team like Burnes. The Rangers aren’t exactly management goals, but they haven’t gone to arbitration since 2000.
I wonder if Michael Busch and Andy Pages (plus a lottery ticket arm) gets it done?
If he had one year of team control left, probably. For two years, it’s probably that plus Bobby Miller.
I’m sure they’d ask. 0.5 yrs of Scherzer and 1.5 yrs of Trea Turner cost Josiah Gray and Keiburt Ruiz. You think 2 yrs of Burnes gets a meaningfully more valuable prospect package? I don’t think you’re wrong, but I’m not sure that’s right, either. I wonder whose offer would beat them?
It’s hard to say, because it’s not clear which teams are desperate to win now and/or lock him up to that $200M+ extension that he would get. The Rangers, Dodgers, Phillies, and Padres stand out as the most motivated teams. The latter two have much weaker systems than the first two, though if you’re motivated enough they could definitely top the offer you described. The Yankees and Mets maybe but they probably would be more focused on him in FA.
Yeah – Burnes would cost the Yankees Volpe AND Dominguez, and any third non-Peraza prospect.
Hope it was worth it.
Bill Bavasi was one of the worst GMs of all time, but one thing he did understand was that haggling over pocket change in arbitration is simply not worth the soured relationships that result from it. As far as I know his office never once went to arbitration, as a policy.
In general the Mariners have, for the most part, avoided going to arbitration with their players. They prefer to at least find the middle ground, if not buying out multiple years of arbitration in the form of extensions. I think Teoscar Hernandez is the only significant player who ended up going to the arbiter during Dipoto’s regime.
I think the problem is that MLB owners seem to have come to the conclusion that the only people who can be GMs are people that would otherwise be purchasing a local newspaper, sacking half of the staff and selling the rest in pieces.
There is a massive gulf between hiring MLB lifers as GMs and hiring investment bankers.
Managing numbers and managing people are two different things, so the focus needs to be on the overall result of the action. In this case, the Brewers were paid $750,000 to sour the brand of a $1.3 billion dollar company while effectively ruining a relationship with an in-house generational player.
Not at all worth $750,000. This is petty human bs.
I love the front office blaming their best player for missing the playoffs like a upset caller to a sports radio station in 1995.
Who is their GM, Paulie from Long Island?
Incorrect. Vinny from Bayside.
Derek from Wauwatosa.
Martin from Flushing
Billy from Mineola.
I can’t wait for the Smack Off
Jeff from Mokina, you’re on the score.
I love the NY tilt. Some people grew up listening to national baseball broadcasts on their radio and some people grew up hoping Doris from Rego Park would call.
Obviously, if you’re going to arbitration over less than $1M in the second to last go-around with your team’s best player, that’s probably not good. You shouldn’t have let it get to that point.
I think the bigger story here is that the Brewers somehow developed one of the best homegrown rotations in recent MLB history with Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta and have basically squandered it. The Brewers have two years before all of Woodruff, Burnes, and Adames’s contracts are up. I don’t know the details but for the pitchers–Burnes and Woodruff–those guys should have been locked up to long term deals in the last couple of years. They’re never going to get another rotation like this again, and by the time the Brewers have position players of note performing in the big leagues these guys are going to be gone.
The only conclusion I can come to–based on the hardball the Brewers are doing here–is that extensions are completely off the table. The Brewers have likely decided that–thanks to the Yelich contract and an unwillingness to take a short-term loss to go for it–that next year’s arb raises for Burnes, Woodruff, and Adames are going to be high enough that they won’t be able to retain all of them for that season much less extending them long term. It’s ridiculous that it has come to this, I’d guess the chances that each of these guys are dealt at some point in the next year are close to 75/25. And that the return will be seemingly disappointing return because there will only be a handful of teams (Padres, Phillies, maybe Dodgers) who would be interested in guys who they have to extend for $200M+ to keep him around long term.
How have they squandered it? They’ve won the 6th most games in MLB since 2018 and the one year (2021) all three were mostly healthy and in the rotation they won the NLC.
Brewers pitchers fell off from 26.6 rWAR (2rd) in 2021 to 15.9 rWAR (14th) in 2022 with Burnes (-1.0 rWAR 21 to 22), Woodruff (-2.4) and Peralta (-2.9) each playing a role in the drop off, along with Houser (-3.2) and Hader (-3.2).
How have they squandered it?
By, as the article points out, penciling in a deadbeat lineup day in day out and, as sadtrombone points out, doing little to nothing to lock up the homegrown pitching value they have built for the longer term.
The “deadbeat lineup” was 10th in runs scored and 8th in position player WAR for 2022.
The squandered pitching staff was 16th in runs allowed and 14th in rWAR.
The Brewers pitching staff massively underperforming cost them the postseason in 2022, not the offense.
How do we know they have done little to nothing to lock up the homegrown pitching long term? Ashby & Peralta signed extensions. Just because Burnes and Woodruff haven’t doesn’t mean no effort was made.
“Just because Burnes and Woodruff haven’t doesn’t mean no effort was made.”
That’s true, but whatever effort may have been made to sign Burnes long-term was just torched in spectacular fashion. Anti-effort, if you will.
I don’t think they’re worrying about next year’s arbitration.
Unless the team starts hot there’s lots of deals coming between june and november.
I would disagree that they’ve squandered it. They’ve done pretty well for a small-market team over the last 5-6 years, and from what I remember, none of those guys were 70 FV prospects to begin with.
“Squandered” is an … interesting … way to frame this. The sadtrombone beat here is being critical of, oh, something like 80% of front office decisions, it gets pretty rote after a while. The Brewers have been in the hunt for a playoff spot on a regular basis and have won a bunch more games that most baseball teams. That’s a hell of a lot more than most front offices can say.
Easy to criticize the Yelich extension — teams in their budget range get one large long-term contract and he’s using it with underwhelming results — but a good deal of that has to do with his back. Stuff happens; if he were healthy he has a profile that would have aged well. As for the rest? Some good moves, some bad moves, but on the whole their front office has done a nice job maintaining a competitive team on a modest budget.
Also easy to say that they should have locked Burnes and Woodruff up to long term deals since they’ve pitched well. My guess is that they tried to some degree, it takes the player willing to sign a team-friendly deal for those extensions to happen. I also would bet they have little interest in taking on large pitching contracts and the risk of zero return with injuries given their budget. I pretty much agree with that strategy.
I’m a pro – union guy (in a union myself!). It’s just business. He should understand that by now. If you’re a mlb player and you’re giving a “hometown discount” for anything other than your own interests (family, community, comfort) then you’re an idiot. Your employer will never love you. That’s capitalism. The younger you learn that, the better.
Which economic system would you recommend in place of capitalism?
No response, just downvotes…ha
I’m not sure TKDC is suggesting we overthrow the system.
He’s saying that capitalism encourages antagonism between owners and workers. Unions exist precisely because it is in a business’s best interest to get the most value out of labor as possible. The worker, in theory, should also try to get the most value out of the business. It’s not necessarily calling for revolution to say that business is business, right?
Because your comment offered nothing of value, haha.
“Get your bag, because your employer doesn’t care about you” is just a statement of fact, not a complaint.
So fragile.
Yes, you and Jeff in Jersey are correct. I’m not trying to start the revolution; just stating a fact.
Also, unless you are in the ownership class for the means of production, you aren’t actually a capitalist; if you believe you are then you’re just a useful idiot. Capitalists are only the people that actually own shit (and a little stock from your 401k doesn’t count).
Whoa!
Ballplayers are capitalists too: they *sell* their services for the highest number they can. That’s where the tension comes from. Ballplayers (with agents and lawyers working for them) are hardly timeclock laborers.
Hey now – I don’t just have a 401k!
I also have a separate stock bonus…which my company’s CEO would happily wipe his ass with.
Lol…love to see all the downvoters of my comment support this one.
Got laid off when I was 23.
Had a beer with my uncle over the summer, and he told me “It happens to everyone. I’ve been fired before. I’ve also ‘fired’ my company and gone somewhere else. It’s business.”
Yup. It beats the alternatives, but you should absolutely recognize it. Though, I’m sure you realize the union is in it for their best interests too and that doesn’t always align with your best interests.
It should also be noted that the freedom to value staying put over a bigger contract is also capitalism. Being the “face of a franchise” instead of a free agent ringer brings benefits too, both tangible and intangible and a layer is free to assign any value he wants to the intangibles. I’m saying don’t knock players for taking less money. They generally know what they are doing.
I can’t imagine how a team’s failure to make the playoffs is relevant to a player’s salary arbitration. Just bizarre.
And the big elephant in the room is the Yelich contract. They put all their eggs in that basket and now they are hamstrung by it. He’s still a good player, but that is a great player contract. And still on the hook at 26 per for the next six years. Ouch!
If I were to blame one Brewers starting pitcher for missing the playoffs last year, I’d pick Freddy Peralta. Even if you ignore the time missed to injury, he still had a significant down year compared to his breakout 2021, especially when starting against the division winning Cardinals.
The Brewer front office has done a great job the past 5-6 years working in a small market, developing talent and making some good trades/signings.
For this specific case, though, I just don’t get it. The upside of going to arbitration with your best player is the team saves $750,000, but the downside is now reality: your star player is pissed, harming an already small chance at a long-term contract extension. Perhaps worse, other teams now know that the Brewers have less leverage, which can harm any potential trade return.
As a Brewers fan this is just depressing. I’m all about spending money wisely and I don’t believe all baseball owners are evil greedy Capitalists (with a capital C) but this is the definition of penny-wise, pound foolish, especially when they are quibbling over how underpaid he will be next season.
To be fair, saving $750,000 this year could mean saving as much as $2M+ on his contract next season, which could very well mean the difference between keeping him and trading him with their current budget constraints.
I still don’t believe even saving 2.75 million is worth the potential downside of pissing off your best player.
Your list of WAR leaders for the last 3 seasons is missing deGrom, who accumulated 9.7 fWAR over that span.
That’s because the list is filtered to qualified pitchers. Somehow, degrom accumulated all that fWAR while not reaching the minimum innings to be considered “qualified”
Same with Rodon, haha!
Ah, I didn’t realize the list had a minimum innings requirement, given that the list was presenting a cumulative statistic.
Agreed; minimum thresholds for cumulative stats is counterintuitive at best
Oh, you’re right! But rodon made the table, so it must be filtered by 300 innings as the minimum, which is mentioned right below the table:
“Among pitchers with at least 300 innings in that span, Burnes also owns the lowest FIP and K-BB% (26.9%, virtually tied with Scherzer), and is second in strikeout rate and ERA (again in a virtual tie with Scherzer).”
First off, I know that there are some organizations that refuse to meet in the middle for a one year deal once arbitration numbers are submitted. It takes the leveeage of arbitration off the table as a negotiating tactic. It’s just some teams’ organizational operating procedure. Are the Brewers one of these teams?
Secondly, if the Brewers are truly convinced that they’re not going to be able to resign Burnes – which, correct – then they have no reason not to nickel and dime him. It’s cold. It’s sad. But it’s true. Burnes is pitching for his big payday. He’s not going to jeopardize that by giving the Brewers anything but his absolute best – regardless of his salary or arbitration this year or next – and everyone knows it.
I logged in to say pretty much precisely this. When I first saw the title of this article I thought to myself, “I bet Jaffe just wasted a couple thousand words.” Sure enough. Burnes was never, ever going to sign an extension or a free agent contract with the Brewers. Never. And the Brewers know this. Why wouldn’t they fight him over every scrap? And it will save them $$$ in the future with arbitration eligible players aware that they won’t fold even for their star player. And the negative press will blow over, and I don’t think it will take very long.
Yes — the Brewers are a “file and trial” team — they will not settle with players once they are headed to arbitration, unless they are agreeing to a longer-term deal as part of avoiding arbitration. It sounds like there was some BS on that front here, where they offered Burnes a “two year” deal that had an option. It seems that’s a big part of why Burnes is pissed.
As for the big picture: they were never signing him to an extension and this won’t matter a bit in six weeks.
Didn’t something similar happen with Judge a couple of years back where the yanks crapped on him and leaked some comments to the papers pre arb hearing? Judge was then, understandably, publicly sour. That seemed to work out fine though.
Obviously different people, different situations but I vaguely recall all the local papers predicting Judge heading out of town after that.
Yeah, but here’s the difference: The Yankees have deep pockets. The Brewers have pocket lint.
The yanks threw enough money at him to sooth his ego.
Exactly..If the Brewers offered him the most $$, he probably re-signs with them, right? Or, if they went to his agent today & offered 7 yrs, $200M, he signs it, right?
Now, we all know that Milwaukee is highly unlikely to do that, but, if they did, he probably jumps on it.
Money talks.
Nine digits shouts.
So isn’t the counter argument if they believe they can’t resign him they might as well try to save as much as possible?
If you view players as interchangeable cogs – freshly picked lemons to squeeze every drop of juice out of before discarding – sure. If you think, “Hey maybe it’s a bad look to publicly shit on our franchise player” then you would probably opt for a different route.
The Brewers didn’t publicly shit on their best player. It was Burnes who came forth publicly and announced that he did not like what the Brewers said in the hearing.
Personally disgusted by Burnes. The guy plays a child’s game for a living! That our lords pay these louts as much as they do is a gift, and this scum wants more?! For what? Playing baseball good? Who would even care if our lords didn’t make it so?!
Meanwhile, even as I type, he ages….Someone needs to teach this guy about Value
Was this comment satire?
Nope, just stupidity.
No, it’s both. Stupid sarcasm.
Do you have the full list of serious professions which are entitled to riches and accolades and which are considered childish pursuits that should feel blessed to earn above minimum wage? Asking for a friend
Reverse-aging is the new market inefficiency.
Benjamin Button’s gonna get PAID!
This is just about bad PR look, but nothing else. I doubt Brewers want to sign starting pitchers to 250M+ extensions until their late thirties and its probably wise for small market team to dont do that. So extension for Burnes wasnt on table even before this. And I guess they tried to sign both him and Woodruff early in their careers for some teamfriendly deal (like Peralta and Ashby) but not every player want to do that.
Burnes is playing for his future payday so he is still going to do his best on the field. At the end of the day they still have a star SP who they know will test the market after 2024 or is traded next offseason/2024 trade deadline. They know this for years and nothing really changed.
The organisation said many times their goal is to field competitive “85-90win” team every year and once you are in postseason you have a chance. Bites of the apple strategy. They dont want to go all in for 2-3 years and rebuild next 5. Their actions under Stearns+Arnold are following this plan.
I’m sure there is more going on. Perhaps talks for an extension broke down and Burnes wants out. Who knows? If the brewers are not in a position to win division, he’ll be traded at deadline. This is a non-issue. If he didn’t want to hear they stuff, don’t go to the hearing.
Great article.
Raises an issue that I don’t recall seeing discussed so much –
What’s the dollar value – in terms of projected earnings – of being drafted by one team as opposed to another? Seems to me that for most above average players, who show promise very early in their careers, there’s significant value in being drafted by a team that tends to be open to extensions for young players, the kind of extensions which come with generational – if not quite free-agent – money.
It seems that getting drafted by a team that is likely to nickel-and-dime you all the way through arbitration, at which point you may not be able to get that kind of money – either due to age, injury or a drop in performance – can be a real drag on projected earnings.
I would think this would be especially true for pitchers.
This has always been true to some degree, but it seems to me that we don’t hear enough about this when a player gets drafted by Team A instead of Team B.
I agree with him that a ridiculously low offer is worse manners than a pure year to year thing. I also don’t see the purpose in stinginess with the best player on a playoff contender