Minnesota: Land of 10,000 Pretty Solid Starting Pitchers

Let’s take a look at the AL Central. (Audience turns away like a child in a high chair trying to avoid being fed creamed peas.) No, I’m serious. I don’t think the division is going to be good — quite the opposite, in fact. Teams like the Diamondbacks or Orioles, likely cursed to be no-hopers this year by the vicissitudes of geography, would be quite competitive in the AL Central.
But within that mediocrity comes unpredictability. We project the entire division to be covered by a spread of just 12 wins, the lowest total for any division. The top three teams are separated by just three projected wins, and each has its own particular idiosyncrasies that turn the division race into a truly intriguing game of rock, paper, scissors. This year’s AL Central race is like the 2006 action thriller Smokin’ Aces: Is it good? Not as such. But is it fun, with a loaded cast? Absolutely.
| Team | Wins | Losses | Pct. | Rdif | RS/G | RA/G |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Guardians | 83 | 79 | .515 | 23 | 4.32 | 4.18 |
| Twins | 83 | 79 | .510 | 15 | 4.34 | 4.25 |
| White Sox | 80 | 82 | .494 | -10 | 4.31 | 4.37 |
| Royals | 73 | 89 | .453 | -73 | 4.24 | 4.69 |
| Tigers | 71 | 91 | .441 | -88 | 3.97 | 4.51 |
Each team has its own distinct flavor. The Guardians have a clever front office and some prodigious individual talents, but an ownership group that either doesn’t know or doesn’t care that while playing as the poor guy gets you triple points in Oregon Trail, that’s not the case in baseball. The White Sox built a team fit for juggernaut status two years ago, and have watched the whole enterprise go to pot since. The Tigers are… participating, as are the Royals, if you’re feeling generous.
It’s the Twins who interest me most. Getting to the playoffs isn’t a huge problem; Minnesota has won the AL Central eight times in the 21st century. But the Twins are on an 18-game postseason losing streak; they haven’t won a playoff game since 2004 and haven’t won a series since 2002.
With a losing streak that long, the fathers of defeat are plentiful. If you’re looking for a specific game they threw away, consider Game 1 of the 2020 Wild Card series against Houston, when a ninth-inning error lead to three unearned runs and cost the Twins the game. The offense has also been woeful; not only have the Twins not won a playoff game since 2004, they haven’t scored more than four runs in a playoff game since 2004.
Bringing Carlos Correa back should help on both fronts. But the biggest reason for optimism in Minnesota is the starting rotation. The Twins haven’t really had a surefire no. 1 starter since Johan Santana, who to be fair has only one more postseason win for Minnesota than Randy Dobnak does. Nevertheless, it’s hard to make the playoffs without good — and deep — starting pitching.
In 2022, the top two teams in starting pitcher WAR were the Astros and Phillies, the two pennant winners. Minnesota was 21st. The only playoff teams to finish in the bottom half of the league in starting pitcher WAR were the Mariners and the Cardinals. Both of those teams made big deadline acquisitions to shore up their rotations (Luis Castillo for Seattle, Jordan Montgomery and José Quintana for St. Louis) and were substantially better than Minnesota anyway.
Dating back to the mid-2010s, there have been two kinds of Minnesota Twins rotations: A substantially above-average one and a mediocre-to-bad one. Here’s how the Twins’ rotation performance intersects with their overall team performance:
| Year | WAR | K-BB% | ERA- | Record | Playoffs? |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2022 | 21st | 17th | 20th | 78-84 | No |
| 2021 | 26th | 20th | 25th | 73-89 | No |
| 2020 | 6th | 12th | 5th | 36-24 | Yes |
| 2019 | 7th | 13th | 8th | 101-61 | Yes |
| 2018 | 18th | 20th | 20th | 78-84 | No |
| 2017 | 24th | 22nd | 17th | 85-77 | Yes |
| 2016 | 23rd | 27th | 30th | 59-103 | No |
In the upset of the century, yes, the Twins tend to make the playoffs when their rotation is good, and tend to miss the playoffs when their rotation is bad. It’s that level of trenchant and groundbreaking insight that keeps readers flocking back to FanGraphs dot Com.
So how much better is Minnesota’s rotation set to be this season? Well, last year, seven pitchers made at least 10 starts for the Twins, and already you can see the makings of a pretty solid rotation based on who’s coming back and who isn’t:
| Name | GS | IP | ERA | FIP | WAR | Returning? |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dylan Bundy | 29 | 140 | 4.89 | 4.66 | 0.7 | No |
| Joe Ryan | 27 | 147 | 3.55 | 3.99 | 2.1 | Yes |
| Chris Archer | 25 | 102 2/3 | 4.56 | 4.49 | 0.5 | No |
| Sonny Gray | 24 | 119 2/3 | 3.08 | 3.40 | 2.4 | Yes |
| Devin Smeltzer | 12 | 62 2/3 | 4.02 | 5.49 | -0.2 | No |
| Bailey Ober | 11 | 56 | 3.21 | 2.92 | 1.4 | Yes |
| Josh Winder | 11 | 53 | 4.42 | 4.49 | 0.4 | Yes |
Out of all 782 2/3 innings thrown by Twins starters last season, only 60% were thrown by pitchers who are still within the Twins’ organization. Among the pitchers likely to be among Minnesota’s top six starting pitchers in 2023, that number drops to 43.3%. If you want to go by number of starts rather than innings, 58% of Minnesota’s 2022 games started are still with the team; 40.7% are likely to be among the team’s top six starters this year.
That obviously leaves, well, about half a season’s worth of starter workload to replace. And the pitchers who are in line to take over that workload are a marked improvement over who’s going out.
Kenta Maeda was the Cy Young runner-up in 2020, blew out his elbow in August 2021, and missed all of 2022. He made his first start in a Twins uniform earlier this week after an 18-month layoff. Maeda then had a second start on Thursday in which Tony Wolters’ PitchCom earpiece was apparently cranked up so loud Rays hitters could hear what was coming, and he still kept the Rays off the board for two innings. That seems like a good sign.
Maeda probably won’t be the second-best pitcher in the American League again. It’s worth remembering that his Cy Young campaign came in 2020; Maeda has thrown 160 innings in a major league season only once, in 2016. But even 20-odd starts of above-average pitching would make a huge difference.
Also returning from injury: Tyler Mahle, who came over from Cincinnati at the 2022 trade deadline and threw just 16 1/3 unremarkable innings before shoulder inflammation shut him down for the year. Mahle, who posted a quiet 180-inning, 3.8 WAR campaign in 2021, reworked his slider at Driveline this offseason and has returned to camp healthy.
But the biggest improvement should come from Pablo López, who turns 27 next week. López was underrated throughout his five-season tenure in Miami thanks to the Marlins being mostly bad and a combination of Sandy Alcantara and (briefly) Sixto Sánchez hogging what little spotlight filtered that far south. Expectations for López will be high, since the Twins had to trade away Luis Arraez to get him. But while Arraez’s contact skills make him a compelling hitter to watch, his lack of power or defensive value limits how much he can contribute. And ultimately, a starter of López’s quality is usually harder to find than a player who needs to win the batting title to be an above-average first baseman. Particularly for Minnesota, a team that does not want for internal solutions at first base.
What does all that mean in the aggregate? Well, look at what ZiPS projects for the Twins’ starting rotation, plus the first couple layers of depth at the Triple-A level:
| Name | Team | ERA | FIP | K% | BB% | K-BB% | AVG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Joe Ryan | MIN | 3.91 | 3.74 | 24.4% | 7.1% | 17.3% | .223 |
| Pablo López | MIN | 3.92 | 3.93 | 24.4% | 6.6% | 17.8% | .236 |
| Tyler Mahle | MIN | 3.78 | 3.65 | 24.6% | 7.9% | 16.7% | .229 |
| Sonny Gray | MIN | 3.80 | 3.83 | 23.6% | 8.5% | 15.1% | .226 |
| Kenta Maeda | MIN | 4.24 | 4.04 | 23.1% | 8.3% | 14.9% | .239 |
| Bailey Ober | MIN | 4.00 | 3.83 | 24.2% | 5.1% | 19.1% | .248 |
| Simeon Woods Richardson | MIN | 4.26 | 4.25 | 23.1% | 10.5% | 12.6% | .239 |
| Louie Varland | MIN | 4.19 | 4.02 | 21.6% | 8.0% | 13.6% | .247 |
I don’t think there’s a Santana- or Frank Viola-type ace in there, but the Twins have at least five, maybe six pitchers who ought to put up average- to above-average rate stats in relatively high volume. Most of those pitchers have significant upside beyond that based on youth or the evolution of their repertoire. On paper, this isn’t an elite rotation, but it’s an above-average one with room to spare. And when the Twins have an above-average rotation, well, they tend to make the playoffs.
Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.
have heard the same
The 2017 Wild Card game has to hurt about as bad for Twins fans. Knock Severino out after a third of an inning with two guys on base and then never lead again. I was honestly stunned watching that game.
It sounds like you’re saying the Twins will make the playoffs because of their above average deep rotation…but they won’t win a playoff series because they have no ace and the lineup isn’t that great.
If that’s true then they’re a candidate to trade from depth to bring in a star or two. Who would that be? Reynolds? Ohtani? Burnes? Cease?
‘ohtani pitches 8 shutout innings, hits two home runs, but twins fall to Yankees 3-2 in 11 innings’
Heh. You seem to be looking forward a year too far.
If they can muster the capital, Burnes would be an ideal target given the arb drama situation.
For as much as Ohtani would move the needle both offensively and defensively, I don’t think A) they could meet Anaheim’s demand, nor B) should they, given what Anaheim would ask and that he’ll be available in free agency this coming off-season (unless they managed to agree on an extension between now and then, which…I mean, it’s Minnesota). They’re just not a team wired to go all in.
Similarly, I don’t think Reynolds would be available at a palatable cost, given what the Pirates have allegedly asked for prior. That may change as he gets closer to leaving, but their front office doesn’t seem too flexible.
I don’t really have anything to say about Cease, as I don’t know anything about his situation.
I can’t imagine the Twins giving up serious prospect capital for an A level SP unless it’s someone they plan to extend, and that would be a whole new level of payroll. I think they made their move acquiring Mahle and Jorge Lopez at last year’s deadline, which seemed like a good idea at the time even though neither ended up contributing much of anything down the stretch. Maybe this year.
It sounds like you’re saying the playoffs are possible and playoff success is led so
That’s more or less how I see it. Whichever team comes out of the AL Central is going to be an underdog against most other playoff teams, and the Twins don’t have anyone who looks like a Game 1 starter.
That said, anything can happen and the Twins must have some karma built up by now. If we could have an ALCS not featuring any Yankees or Astros, that would be super.
Karma doesn’t pitch. 😆
Cease doesn’t hit free agency till 2026. A 27 year old, 4 win pitcher, with three years of team control, in your division, is going to cost roughly your entire farm system these days.
The obvious answer is an elite, playoff-worthy starting pitcher. They’ve got enough depth to make the playoffs, so what they need is someone who will take them over the top in the playoffs. That means pitching.
I don’t know who they would trade, though. Royce Lewis? Max Kepler? Jorge Polanco? Emmanuel Rodriguez? Edouard Julien? Brooks Lee?
And I don’t know that there are a lot of teams that have that type of starting pitcher and who are going to be out of it at the deadline. With the expanded playoffs, the Brewers or White Sox would have to be really bad. I think it’s more likely they will make a play for relievers at the deadline.
I can’t see them getting any traction for the kind of pitcher that would move the needle now without two of Julien, Lewis and Lee being part of the conversation. Honestly the Marlins are still the team most likely to have that kind of pitcher and be willing to deal, although specifically which one depends on how things play out. Someone like Chris Sale could also potentially be a fit?
Burnes maybe, but the Brewers would have to be really bad to wanna trade him. Ohtani is a rental but I’d be surprised if the Angels actually trade him. Reynolds… will the Pirates FO be reasonable w their demands? Cease I strongly doubt; he’s got 3 years of control remaining and it would be an intra-division trade.
Yeah, the list of guys who are both potential Game 1 caliber starters and potentially available is something like:
Burnes (probably not available)
Sale (probably not both available and good)
Bieber (probably not available, especially to MN)
????
Below that line it’s hard to find a clear upgrade to the guys they already have.
I think there’s a 35% chance Sale is healthy, available, and good. But Sale has 10 and 5 rights so the Red Sox would also have to be really bad in order for him to waive them.
That said, if all of those things are met, Bloom is exactly the kind of executive who would be interested in a huge number of projected contributors rather than a headliner. So guys like Chris Paddack, Ryan Jeffers, Matt Wallner, Austin Martin, etc might not be of interest to other teams but might be secondaries guys for the Red Sox simply because they like volume.
Good points. Ohtani won’t be traded. Instead the knuckleheads that run the Angels will hold him until their return is much lower than they could have gotten. And if they are a few games out at the deadline they still won’t trade him. You are also correct that the Pirates are delusional with the asking price on Reynolds. They can’t trade him if they demand a ransom. He is 28 and slipping on the defensive side. He hits mid 20’s home runs and does not steal many bases. Good point on Cease as well.
The Angels being potentially up for sale really complicates that too. Maybe a buyer isn’t interested if Ohtani is gone, yknow?
I think the point is that the Pirates are saying they really don’t want to trade Reynolds. He isn’t available unless some team is stupid enough to offer up such a ransom for him.
I say go after velo more than a name…Twins SP only tops the Cubs in avg velo over the two full pandemic seasons…All those guys still fit but so does someone like Jesus Luzardo (tho he will go to Cubs, Theo willing)
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For as much as they’ve failed in the playoffs this century, the Twinkies under Gardenhire were fun to watch. The pitching staff with its anti-fascist approach would have been Crash Davis’s wet dream, and it seemed like most of their runs came from actually running the bases because they didn’t have the big slugger in the lineup year in and out.
Their rotation depth is certainly a lot better than last year. But come playoff time… well, it’s really hard to see them advancing past the first round bc that rotation just doesn’t have a true front-end SP. I don’t think the Twins have any of, to be arbitrary, the 5 best SPs in the AL Central; in no particular order, I’d take all of Bieber, McKenzie, Cease, Giolito, and Lynn over any MIN SP.
I don’t think the MIN rotation really has more room for growth than average, though. They have a lot of dudes who have put up one quite good season, and much longer histories of not being healthy and good. That doesn’t feel nearly as ceiling-raising as having a young SP/prospect with a really high ceiling; they don’t have a Daniel Espino or Michael Kopech type talent here.
The world where they advance is the one where Buxton and Correa are both healthy and they play great defense and score a bunch of runs. You can win with #2/3 starters.
I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable to say that Lopez/Mahle/Gray/Ryan is as good a playoff rotation as Manoah/Gausman/????/????, and better than whatever the Cards end up running out there (Mikolas/Montgomery/Wainwright/Flaherty?).
I absolutely think it is unreasonable to say that Lopez/Mahle/Gray is as good a trio of SPs as the Blue Jays’ projected trio of Manoah/Gausman/Bassitt for a Wild Card series! Manoah and Gausman are clearly better than any of MIN’s guys, and Bassitt is about on par. Top-end pitching is what matters most, not one 4th starter being 0.5 WAR better than the other 4th starter.
MIN’s guys are not “#2/3s”. They’re #3s. There’s a clear gap between all of them and actual no. 2 pitchers, like Manoah, or Framber, Giolito, Gallen, etc. MIN’s SPs are neither as good on a rate basis, nor are they historically as durable as these pitchers: thus, they’re no. 3s. The postseason bar for SPs is much, much higher than regular season.
In the regular season you can fake it with a deep bullpen and a lot of offense by beating up on 4’s and 5’s. The very pitchers that barely register in the playoffs. Good pitching slows good hitting more often than not so that takes out two of their three strengths.
The other question for the twins is how many innings will those guys rack up by oct? And if still standing how much will they have left?
They can make it to the playoffs if everything goes well but they don’t have much margin.
In contrast, the ChiSox also need a lot of things to go right but they’ll be better just by ditching larussa and getting something resembling a 2B in Andrus. Their road to 90 is shorter.
I’d argue the Twins have less injury risk, since there’s less of a difference between their starters.
And I definitely disagree that the White Sox have a better shot at 90, as do all the projections.
For a three game series, probably, but the edge is small. It’s that fourth spot where they give up a lot. This is why three game series are dumb.
Just for the record, selected pitchers by projected FIP and ERA (ZIPS), ordered by FIP:
Gausman 3.27 FIP, 3.66 ERA
Mahle 3.65, 3.78
Ryan 3.74, 3.91
Bassit 3.78, 3.63
Manoah 3.79, 3.43
Sonny Gray 3.83, 3.80
Ober 3.83, 4.00
Lopez 3.93, 3.92
Flaherty 3.98, 3.47
Maeda 4.04, 4.24
Mikolas 4.13, 3.75
I think the perceived difference is a lot larger than the actual difference once you’re outside the genuinely top 10 pitchers.
It’s curious that ZiPS projects Gausman to have a much worse ERA than his FIP would suggest, and Manoah to have a much better ERA. If the driver of that difference isn’t defense, what is it?
Those Cardinals starters are easily better than what the Twins have, especially Mikolas and Flaherty.
Based on what?
Based on how good Flaherty has been when he’s actually healthy and recent track record for the others.
If everyone on both teams is healthy as they are right now, the Cardinals have a much better rotation than the Twins, as well as better depth when injuries will likely occur.
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