MLB’s Testing Mess May KO Season

On Saturday, the Yankees’ Masahiro Tanaka got hit upside the head and ultimately concussed by a 112-mph screamer off the bat of Giancarlo Stanton, the third player he faced in the team’s first simulated game of summer camp. By Monday, a good portion of Major League Baseball could identify with the headaches and other scary consequences of being knocked down so soon after restarting amid the coronavirus pandemic. The testing program that represents a foundational piece of the protocol to keep players and essential staff safe broke down, causing teams to delay or cancel workouts and amplifying a crisis of confidence within the sport.

Indeed, if one didn’t already feel a fair bit of ambivalence regarding MLB’s attempt to stage even an abbreviated season amid the pandemic, the dysfunction that’s been on display since late last week has certainly provided cause for concern. While the league reported results of its intake tests that initially appeared promising, the caveat attached — incomplete results from most teams — was enough to raise some eyebrows. Beyond that initial stumble, Monday brought news of at least half a dozen teams whose workouts were delayed or canceled due to holiday-related holdups in receiving test results, a matter that should have been anticipated well in advance. All of this comes while the ranks of players testing positive and those opting out both continue to grow, producing absences that could potentially reshape the season and in some cases have life-altering consequences. And of course, this is all unfolding (unraveling?) against the backdrop of record-setting numbers of new cases in the U.S. with totals topping 50,000 for three consecutive days.

Should MLB attempt to proceed at all? Can it? From here, the likelihood of the league pulling this off seems more remote than ever.

Though it was overshadowed by the rancorous and all-too-public exchanges between the owners and the Players Association, MLB sold the union and the public on the viability of a restart based on its ability to expedite a high volume of tests, primarily via saliva-based tests — faster and less invasive than nasal swabs — that a repurposed anti-doping lab in Salt Lake City could process for a 24- to 48-hour turnaround. Even before that turnaround time could be called into question, MLB made a mess of its intake testing, which began at players’ home stadiums on July 1. Players and essential staff were given temperature checks, saliva or nasal swab diagnostic tests for the coronavirus itself, and antibody tests using blood samples. Only those who tested negative were permitted to enter facilities for the first workouts beginning on Friday.

On Friday, MLB and the Players Association announced the results of those intake tests: 38 total positives (31 from players, seven from staff) out of 3,185 samples collected and tested, a 1.2% rate — on par with the moving seven-day average for New York state according to data from Johns Hopkins University (1.1%), less than one-sixth of the national seven-day average (7.5%), and an order of magnitude below the nightmarish scenarios unfolding in Arizona, Florida, and Texas. Eleven of the 30 teams didn’t have a single positive case.

According to Oxford College of Emory University epidemiologist Zachary Binney, the estimated 1.7% infection rate for players (as opposed to 0.5% for staff) was significantly below the initial intake tests of both the National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League:

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It all sounded like good news, comparatively speaking — any positive test is cause for alarm, given the potentially life-threatening nature of the virus — but it came with a couple qualifiers that weren’t widely noted. The Athletic‘s Brittany Ghiroli reported that “a vast majority of teams had incomplete or pending results. They were not able to submit those to the league by the deadline.” On Tuesday, Sports Illustrated’s Stephanie Apstein reported, “At least 10 teams had not finished their intake testing by the time MLB and the PA released the numbers. At least nine teams still had not finished it on Sunday.”

Ghiroli also noted that the numbers did not include the players who were confirmed to have tested positive prior to intake, including those affected by the outbreaks in the camps of the Blue Jays, Giants, Phillies, Rangers, and Rockies that were reported about two weeks ago.

As of Monday, MLB still hadn’t produced final results; in a statement issued late on Monday — more on which below — the league said that “more than 95% of the tests under the Intake Screening period have been conducted, analyzed and shared with all 30 Clubs,” and that 98% of the new total of 3,740 samples had been processed. The statement did not include an updated rate of positive tests, however, but given those exclusions, it’s possible that the actual number of players and staff infected is at least double what’s been reported. If this process is to gain the trust of the players and the public, such data has to be circulated. The league and the union have to make transparency a priority, and should be able to do so without sacrificing individual player privacy.

MLB’s statement also attempted to address the snafus that occurred over the holiday weekend, which were plentiful:

  • On Sunday, the A’s were forced to cancel the workout for their position players because their intake results were incomplete. Via The Athletic’s Alex Coffey:

    As of late Sunday night, the COVID-19 tests for the A’s position players were in San Francisco, waiting to be shipped to Major League Baseball’s lab in Salt Lake City. The tests were due to arrive in Utah at 1:30 a.m. on Monday morning. Per MLB’s health and safety protocols, in order to enter the A’s facility, all personnel and players must test negative. The team believes the earliest it could hold a full-team workout would be Monday evening.

    A’s general manager David Forst was described as “livid” about the delayed results, which could push back the start of full-squad A’s workouts beyond Monday. In a text message to reporters on Sunday, Forst said that the delay was “due to the holiday yesterday.” But it is unclear what the root of this delay actually is. According to this source, MLB had known of the A’s workout and testing schedule a week ago and never alerted the team about potential issues or delays that would be caused by the July 4 holiday.

    The A’s were initially forced to cancel Monday’s workout as well, no small matter in a preseason that’s just 23 days long, though they were able to get a position player workout in Monday evening.

  • On Monday, the Astros, Cardinals, and Nationals found themselves in a similar boat as the A’s, canceling workouts because they hadn’t received the results of tests conducted on Friday. The Diamondbacks had to delay theirs for the same reason, though they did finally get one in.
  • The Angels, whose testers did not show up on Sunday to either Angel Stadium or Long Beach State’s Blair Field, the team’s alternate training site, had staff collect their saliva samples for testing and downshifted to an optional afternoon workout. The Astros weren’t tested on Saturday or Sunday. The Yankees weren’t tested on Sunday, but they collected their samples, then chose to proceed.

Yeesh. On Sunday, Nationals reliever Sean Doolittle articulated the concerns of many players. Via Ghiroli, he said during a Zoom interview, “This has to get fixed… There is a lot of players right now that are trying to make decisions that might be participating in camp that aren’t 100 percent comfortable with where things are at right now. That’s where I am.” During the interview, Doolittle checked his phone to see if his test results from Friday had come in; they had not. The pitcher also said that the team had not received its personal protective equipment, including N95 masks and gloves.

On Monday, Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo issued a blunt statement about the testing situation regarding not only his team, but the entire league:

Commissioner Rob Manfred, apparently eager to find the wrong side of the issue, “jumped on” Rizzo for insubordination, according to the Washington Post’s Barry Svrluga.

In its statement, MLB offered an explanation for the delays:

Our plan required extensive delivery and shipping services, including proactive special accommodations to account for the holiday weekend. The vast majority of those deliveries occurred without incident and allowed the protocols to function as planned. Unfortunately, several situations included unforeseen delays. We have addressed the delays caused by the holiday weekend and do not expect a recurrence. We commend the affected Clubs that responded properly by cancelling workouts.

It beggars belief that MLB couldn’t foresee the problems related to transporting samples on a holiday weekend that for months has been within the window of the restart effort — and yet here they are. As the New York Post’s Joel Sherman elaborated, FedEx normally handles the transportation of test samples and has its own fleet of aircraft, but the league had to turn to its backup courier, which does not, and which had to make do with a limited number of commercial flights on the holiday weekend. Additionally, the league and the lab had a backlog that included both intake testing and the beginning of every-other-day testing.

The fact that players and staff are only being tested every other day has drawn criticism from epidemiologists and other public health experts, including Binney, who called the plan “flimsy” and compared it to a below-average shortstop who “is going to miss some grounders.” A greater focus on the health and safety protocol during the negotiations might have produced a stronger plan, as Doolittle and other players have suggested, with multiple labs available to process more frequent tests; The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reported that the union and MLB are in fact seeking to add a lab “to increase the speed and efficiency of test processing and reporting.”

Whatever system is in place needs to run like a Swiss watch if MLB is to have a shot at completing its season, and right now, one can’t blame the players for being openly skeptical, particularly given that the situation has become a mess even before teams have gone on the road. As the Cubs’ Kris Bryant told reporters via Zoom:

“We’ve had guys here that showed up on Sunday and haven’t gotten tested again eight, seven days later. And then you don’t get the results for two days either, so that’s nine days without knowing. I think if you really want this to succeed, we’re going to have to figure this out. I wanted to play this year because I felt that it would be safe and I would feel comfortable. But honestly I don’t really feel that way, which is why I’m trying to keep my distance from everybody and wear my mask, just so that we can get this thing going.

“When you get into the season and you’re traveling and you’re in an airplane, a hotel, you’re getting room service, who knows what people are doing? Especially on the other teams, too. You got to rely on everybody in this whole thing. If you can’t really nail the easy part — which is right now and just our players — we’ve got a big hill to climb.”

Said the Dodgers’ Mookie Betts, “[I]t’s tough to be confident in something that hasn’t proved to be foolproof.”

Said the A’s Jake Diekman, an at-risk player due to his history of ulcerative colitis, “I feel like deep down, every player has it in the back of their mind that this is all going to fall apart.”

Unless the league and the union can iron out the process in short order, it’s entirely possible that players who have already expressed ambivalence about proceeding, from Mike Trout and Buster Posey on down, could join David Price, Ian Desmond, and others in opting out. If enough marquee players do so, it could undermine MLB’s attempt to preserve the competitive integrity of the season, not that a 60-game schedule doesn’t do so by definition.

None of this will surprise the chorus of people saying that baseball shouldn’t even attempt to proceed, and it probably shouldn’t do so for those of us who have at least been willing to suspend disbelief and see how the process unfolds. But unlike Tanaka, nobody should be blindsided by the risks involved in this attempt to play, or the speed with which the consequences of a mishap can cause serious damage. MLB needs to tighten things up immediately, or the 2020 season is going to fall apart completely.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago

The number of daily new cases in the US is double what it was a month ago. For me personally, it’s reached the point where I consider it immoral for MLB to attempt a season. Baseball players, stadium workers, etc. should be isolating at home like the rest of us, and the federal government should be doing MUCH more to help people than it has.

PS: I hope Rizzo told Manfred to get bent.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago

I’m weary about a season, too, but “the rest of us” are not all hunkered at home (disclosure: I am). The federal government has indeed failed us but it’s not really tenable or realistic to continue doing nothing. For many, they never had that choice and they still don’t.

We as a country are depressed. Polls show the country is just in the deepest of ruts. Sports could really help with that. We should appreciate the hell out of every essential worker, from doctors to grocers to EMTs to anyone else. We should also appreciate everyone in baseball that is taking some risk to bring back baseball. I honestly think it will be of great help to our country.

None of this excuses the inept and at times heartless response by those in charge, but you have to play the hand you are dealt.

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

“We should also appreciate everyone in baseball that is taking some risk to bring back baseball.”

The problem is that they’re risking not just their health but the health of others.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago

That’s true, but it’s unrealistic to not balance risks. The idea of everyone isolating for months/years is not realistic and frankly also not healthy.

Personally, I’m saving my ire for those that are actively trying to be assholes and one particularly influential person who they seem to be following. If you are wearing a mask, washing your hands, trying to mostly socially distance, then you’re part of the solution and it’s reasonable to try to have some semblance of activity and interaction with others, especially if it is for your livelihood. But also for sanity. This isn’t just my opinion; I’ve heard it from several of the highly respected doctors providing expert opinion on this, like Dr. Fauci.

ashlandateam
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

My psychiatric appointments have all been over the phone/via Zoom due to Covid since March. And, in each of them, my psychiatrist makes sure to remind me to do what I need to in order to stay mentally well – according to her, I need as much normalcy in my life to stay sane, or else it just doesn’t matter how well I’m social distancing and protecting others – there’s a lot that can harm us other than the virus also when we don’t take care of ourselves mentally.

I don’t know if baseball being played fits into that category. But we all have to collectively balance what risks we’re willing to take as a society, because ‘surviving the virus,’ and ‘living a life’ are not the same things. So of course we’re careful (hence the Zoom appointments with doctors). But also, we need to have things in our lives that help give us a much needed distraction from the truly awful things going on around us.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  ashlandateam

But we all have to collectively balance what risks we’re willing to take as a society, because ‘surviving the virus,’ and ‘living a life’ are not the same things.

Amen.

My father was in the early stages of cognitive impairment when COVID hit, but his cognition has fallen off a cliff in the last 100 days due to isolation, disruption of routine, etc. The brain is a complex, complex animal and we can’t even begin to understand the impact that COVID is having on the uninfected living. That’s true for folks on the cognitive impairment spectrum (look at same of the observations on rates of acceleration of early Alzheimer’s and dementia patients), as well as those with mental health issues.

Truly, I have prayed for baseball to come back this season, if it is safe to play, as much for my dad to have sports to watch and talk about again as it is for my own direct personal enjoyment. I don’t want the players to be in harm’s way so that we can be entertained, but I do believe that having sports back is vital for the cognitive and mental health of many, many, many people. Hopefully a balance is found.

On a personal note, good luck to you on your own journey, and stay well.

martyvan90Member since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

“Truly, I have prayed for baseball to come back this season, if it is safe to play, as much for my dad to have sports to watch and talk about again as it is for my own direct personal enjoyment. ”
Amen brother. My prayers for your journey with your Dad. I have good memories as well as tough ones during my dad’s battle with a horrible disease. Stay well.

carterMember since 2020
6 years ago

I go back and forth on what is correct regarding professional sports. They are trying to give people entertainment in a time when people desperately need it. There is no guarantee that next year is going to be any different. Let’s not pretend like sports are not important. This is people’s careers as well, and plenty of players haven’t made the big bucks yet, and missing a year right now will prevent some players from ever doing it. That is to say nothing of the countless people who make a living from baseball as well: writers, scouts, coaches, vendors, etc. Very few of the people whose livelihood depends on baseball are getting rich.

So, what is the alternative? Cancel the season? Then what? That is likely what will end up happening at some point, but just outright canceling it at this point also seems incorrect as well. If you are looking around the country right now you would realize that we are farther away from the end of this then we were when it started 5 months ago. Is there any real hope when you look around the country that this is going to improve for the better in the near future? I’d say almost assuredly no.

sbf21
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I enjoy a good game of poker. Been playing for decades. One thing I learned early was that unless I wanted to get cleaned out regularly, playing the cards I was dealt often meant folding my hand.

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago

I appreciate the thoughtful responses to my comment. Thanks!

MattMember since 2020
6 years ago

Three days in and Fangraphs is throwing in the card? The point of the Chicken Little story isn’t that Chicken Little was right in the end. It was that people got sick of listening to the chicken saying the same stupid stuff all the time. They screwed up the testing over a holiday weekend. Suboptimal? Sure. A sign of things to come? WHO THE HELL KNOWS?

Blindsided by the risks? Who is blindsided by the risks? I live in a world where its a risk to go to the grocery store. I take elevators at work. We all do. Tanaka got hit with a line drive in the head. Talk about risks. What kind of idiot wants to watch baseball when people are at such risk.

A lot of us idiots. Can someone on this website just say once in a while that they want to watch baseball and they are glad the game is back? Can’t anyone worry without being a scold anymore?

ScoreboardMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Huh?

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Umm… What?

dodgerbleu
6 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Sure I’ll get blasted but so it goes. FG has fallen apart. It’s no longer essential, informative, helpful or useful to many of us. That said, while I won’t renew my membership until the sites leadership reestablishes transparency and restores faith that there is a plan and a future, I’m also not abandoning ship. I’m literally waiting for an update of substance from Dave so I can give the site – OUR site – my $50. We haven’t had one in nearly 3 months. Not a single update. I don’t think the lack of content is acceptable – look no further than MLBTR or the Athletic as examples of sites that have provided plenty of original and ongoing content – FG has about 10 years credit in the bank so I won’t give up on it. I question Dave’s disappearing act and ability to lead through this, but it was Sullivan I believe who said he was the best boss he’s ever had, and similitude comments have been shared by other departing authors, which means a lot. Besides, FG still has Dan, so it’s not all bad. I do think it’s time to acknowledge that FG needs help, and it’s not just financial contributions from the readership. There is a real issue with the content being covered, the tone, the lack of content that’s not covered, the objectiveness, etc. The world is crazy though and I think we need to, at least I need to, see how it ultimately plays out before passing final judgment.

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I’m aware that a desire to troll was probably a large part of your motivation to write this, but I’ll take the bait: FanGraphs has continued to churn out remarkably insightful and varied content, and your statement of the contrary only indicates that you haven’t been visiting the site regularly – Craig’s fantastically detailed explainers of the MLB/MLBPA negotiations, Ben’s series on his simulated OOTP season and revisitations of World Series tactics, Dan’s many simulations/projections of hypothetical seasons, Jay’s detailed looks at players from the past, and many more, not to mention FanGraphs-hosted Effectively Wild continuing to pump out episodes of one of the best podcasts around three times per week. Sure, by its very nature a baseball site will be less “essential, informative, helpful or useful”, as you put it, when there’s, you know, no baseball. But I’m honestly not sure what else you could ask for from a baseball site during this pandemic, save for things that require a normal baseball season, which is something that everyone wants but is obviously out of our control.

dodgerbleu
6 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

No desire to troll and was reluctant to even comment.

Dan is great.

Effectively wild is solid though the topics and lack of description of content has lead to me not listening recently.

OOTP – seriously? That’s not content.

World Series tactics – that was great, creative and I read them all.

That said, Rotographs all but died and they had endless content available – starting with say 700 or so player profiles they could have produced.

All chats besides Dan and Meg have had disengaged hosts who didn’t produce volume, were slow to answer and said the queue was empty when it was not. Craig being most definitely guilty.

You have your opinion. I have mine. These are my opinions. Doesn’t make them fact. But please realize that your opinions are not fact either, I accept and respect them as your opinion and point of view. And you pointed out the World Series tactics which I conceded was a good point. My motivation was to make FG great again. Please don’t assume I meant to troll or that you know my motivation.

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

It still sounds like the vast majority of your complaints come down to the fact that there is no currently ongoing MLB season, which obviously a website can’t be held responsible for… My point is only that given the circumstances, FanGraphs has been remarkably consistent in putting out useful and entertaining content (including the chats, which I neglected to mention originally and are almost uniformly fun to participate in), and frankly I have found myself on this site far more often than I expected to once the season was postponed.

alphadogsball
6 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

Dodgerbleu, the funny thing is that I found myself agreeing with your analysis on the chats until you listed what category some of the writers fell under. To each their own… /shrug

ScoreboardMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I couldn’t disagree more strongly with your perspective but I understand the frustration that you’re feeling and want to understand where you are coming from.

May I ask a couple questions?
– When you say “the lack of content is unacceptable”? What do you mean? There are 2-3 articles published daily. It feels (to me) that Ben/Craig/Dan/Jay work just as hard these days as they have in the past. What else would you want to be seeing?
– What do you want Appelman to say? How do you know he’s not leading amongst the writers? To be clear… I believe it’s his job to lead the writers, not us, right? Perhaps we should inquire with the staff how well they feel the leadership has been?
– The “tone” and “objectiveness”, can you be specific? For each, do you disagree with the decision to take a stance or the stance itself?
– “Lack of content” – What content do you think has not been covered? I still check FG daily and don’t feel like they have missed major stories.

The elephant in the room is the lack of baseball to cover, thereby torpedoing the underlying content of this site. Since you don’t explicitly mention that I want it to be said here. Thanks for trying to take my disagreements seriously as I genuinely want to understand where you think FG is not meeting the bar.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

You not finding value in anyone’s posts but Dan’s since the pandemic started has to do with you.

What else should they be covering?

Erick
6 years ago

I have this nagging suspicion the owners don’t mind this and want a large numbers to opt out so they can cancel the season and not be the bad guys.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  Erick

I think what they really want is their most expensive players to opt out. For Bryce Harper and Justin Verlander and Mike Trout to say “nah, it’s not worth it.”

Joe Joe
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Maybe not Verlander, but agree for teams with unlikely chance to win. I expect Astros want to compete for series while under scrutiny and put scandal behind them. Though, it will be a while for that last part to happen.

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  Erick

I agree with you, but of course they will still be the bad guys. From what I’ve seen there seems to be a fairly strong consensus among medical experts that it should be possible to resume high-level professional sports, given proper testing, health and safety protocols, enforcement of those protocols, etc., and ultimately responsibility for any failure on that front lies with the league and its owners. Who knows whether it will be perceived that way, but that’s at least how I see it.

dl80Member since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  Erick

My conspiracy theory is that some of the owners are actively working to make the season fall apart so that they don’t have to play and lose money but also won’t lose the grievance.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

How on Earth would they do this? I could see some owners being happy at least from a money standpoint, but please provide a non-insane way that the owners could subversively sabotage the season without putting their fingerprints all over it?

DGLewisMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Eh, Hanlon’s Razor usually applies, especially where MLB ownership is concerned.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  Erick

I’d be fine with that. As long as they don’t decide to get thousands killed.

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago

You know things have gone horribly wrong for the league when even front office members are openly expressing their discontent. In all seriousness though, this restart has been a fiasco, and I find myself thinking more and more that this is really not a good idea (not just MLB either, but all sports – the NBA’s restart has not exactly gone smoothly either).

MikeSMember since 2020
6 years ago

HIPAA isn’t going to protect anybody’s privacy either. From the Chicago Sun Times:

Manager Rick Renteria acknowledged that third baseman Yoan Moncada was not at Guaranteed Rate Field with other White Sox regulars Monday, the fourth day of summer camp. Moncada has not participated in any workouts, which began Friday, a source said.

The Sox announced Sunday that two players tested positive for the coronavirus but didn’t name them. Both are asymptomatic and in isolation in Chicago, the team said.

Renteria declined comment when asked about Moncada’s absence Monday.

“I’m just holding him out right now,” Renteria said.

Moncada lives in Miami in the off season and was there up until about a week ago. The team did announce that Encarnacion and Abreu were held out until Sunday because their results were not back yet. If you explain everything else but answer questions about positive tests with “no comment,” it isn’t hard to connect the dots.

carterMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

I don’t really think that many players care at this point. Plenty are self-announcing or letting their teams announce.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  carter

Why would they ever care? I think it was Mike Minor that broke his penis during rough sex. I could see wanting to keep that under wraps. A disease that half the country will probably end up getting? Why?

Ukranian to Vietnamese to French is back
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

{The translation for this will unfortunately have to be kept under wraps as well – Serb}

MikeSMember since 2020
6 years ago

Dammit! One of my goals in life is to go through your filter.

MikeSMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

That’s a valid thing to ask about the privacy portion of HIPAA in general. I think it was meant to prevent discrimination by employers and insurers, but both those make you swear that you don’t have a condition that would affect them and if you lie they can terminate you for lying do it doesn’t really do that.

The portability part is more important in my mind.

jwa05001
6 years ago

Does anybody doubt the NFL’s season will start on time and run for the most part like a well oiled machine? MLB needs to get its crap together.

dl80Member since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

I am confident that the NFL will start its season with absolutely no care for the consequences, yes

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

I doubt it very much. Yes.

sbf21
6 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

I very much doubt it.

bluerum29
6 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

Really hoping it doesn’t. Would love to see the NFL take a huge hit.

tomerafan
6 years ago

Whatever system is in place needs to run like a Swiss watch if MLB is to have a shot at completing its season, and right now, one can’t blame the players for being openly skeptical, particularly given that the situation has become a mess even before teams have gone on the road.

I absolutely, unequivocally agree with this statement.

But I also think it’s too early to tell whether or not the system will run as needed. It was a rocky, suboptimal start, to be sure. But MLB is trying to do something that’s never been done before, and has never needed to be done before. Delayed shipments and test-processing constraints in the very first batch isn’t necessarily a sign of failure – it’s a sign that all systems require testing and improvement in order to work well.

The players have a right (a human right, never mind a contractual right) to feel that MLB is providing a safe work environment, as all employees do across the country. However, anyone who expected the system – a brand new system starting on a Holiday weekend, no less – to work perfectly had their expectations set too high. In fact, I daresay that if it had appeared to run perfectly out of the gate, I’d be more concerned with what data MLB was hiding because no coast-to-coast next day testing system for 2000+ employees (players and coaches) is going to run perfectly on day 1.

They key right now is whether the mistakes that have been made and the lessons learned result in a system that can run as the Swiss watch you mentioned. The next 5-7 days are critical, not the first 72 hours.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

I don’t disagree that this is an utter fiasco and the system is broken and will doom the season, but the difference between a well-functioning testing system and a non-functioning system is likely the difference between the season only being 30-some games and the season not even starting. This is a serious uphill climb.

Ukranian to Vietnamese to French is back
6 years ago

What the universe has read. Very simple. Delays in the tests caused delays in the delivery of FedEx due to the holiday on February 4.

And what did Jai guess? If the MLB season below you doesn’t work, guys! Fancharts will go bankrupt! So please deal with the curse and the darkness.

In the meantime I will enjoy more baseball inside and be ready for 7/23! Play ball, my friend.

dl80Member since 2026
6 years ago

Please do deal with the curse and the darkness

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

I suspect he already did.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago

I love that “bitch” became “my friend”.

Mike NMN
6 years ago

With all the money at stake here, to say nothing of history, I’m astonished that MLB doesn’t have the absolute gold standard in testing in place. What are these folks thinking?

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike NMN

Manfred–and probably some owners–are willing to let it burn. Sometimes I think this means the owners will kill the entire sport.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago

Depression is a state of mind. The solution to an individual’s depression is therapy and/or medication, not sacrificing thousands of people in order to show them baseball. That’s simply insanity.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Depression is not a state of mind. It’s a serious mental health disorder. Please don’t minimize it.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

It is both. You misread–I don’t intend to minimize. I have complex PTSD from a childhood of abuse and have been in therapy (psychodynamic psychotherapy) for it for over a decade, as well as on antidepressants. The therapy has been the most difficult thing I’ve ever done, and will probably ever do. But I have gone from being afraid of literally everyone and anything beyond staying in bed, to an amazing place now where I am only rarely depressed.

I got there through professional help more than medication, though the meds certainly take the edge off.
But, to succeed in therapy, I had to make a personal choice to first seek therapy, then relentlessly keep trying, keep being kind to myself, keep figuring out who I am and who I was, keep accepting myself and the world around me. And it works. It really works. It takes a long time, though. Which means that medication can be helpful.

Many of us can maintain our spirits, even better ourselves during these times. Most of us can cope. It is difficult, but we can do it.

I see depression as something that, really and truly, can be dissolved through therapy, and assuaged via medication.

And collective depression is definitely not worth killing thousands more. We can move through those feelings through a variety of methods (such as the ones I practice, and which have become my new normal).

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Honestly and truly – blessings to you, and congratulations on how far you’ve come (tremendously amazing), and good luck on your journey, one day at a time.

I apologize, sincerely, for misreading your post and thinking or assuming that you were minimizing it. In my experience, many people who say depression is a “state of mind” use that phrase to minimize it and equate it with “being sad” or “having the blues” rather than being a condition that requires care and attention like any other aspect of our health. Again, my apologies.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

No problem at all! Figuring out what anyone means in text or otherwise is always difficult. And thank you for the kind words!

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

To be honest, I can’t believe that post is getting downvoted so much. Groupthink is real.

DGLewisMember since 2020
6 years ago

If only MLB had some way of knowing in advance that July 4th was a national holiday.

noah2112Member since 2016
6 years ago

MLB’s back to play plan is, to be blunt, idiotic. Over 66 days, teams will travel around 15 times each ( (averaging over 8000 miles total per team), play 60 games and perform regular testing. About half the teams play in states where cases are increasing significantly and 1 team (Blue Jays) still doesn’t know where it will be playing home games. Way, way too many things need to go perfectly for them to pull this off and they are already running into problems. Bad plan plus poor execution equals failure.