Nationals Sign Matt Wieters For Some Reason
For most of the offseason, industry speculation suggested that the Nationals were the most likely landing spot for Matt Wieters. They were losing Wilson Ramos to free agency, which created a hole at the catcher spot, and Wieters was already comfortable with the geographic area, having spent his entire career in Baltimore to that point.
But all winter, the team didn’t seem to show much interest. At the beginning of December, Washington traded for Derek Norris, who had a terrible 2016 but has plenty of signs pointing to a 2017 bounce-back. With Norris and Jose Lobaton in the fold, they had a perfectly capable pair of receivers, both of whom rated as well above average in Statcorner’s catcher framing metrics. Catching wasn’t the strength of the team, but neither was it some glaring weakness like their bench, and if ownership was going to allow for more spending, there seemed to be plenty of other places for the Nationals to upgrade.
But today, the winter of industry speculation proved prescient, as the Nationals have reportedly signed Wieters, giving him $21 million in guaranteed money over two years along with an opt-out after the first year. The lesson, as always; if you’re not sure where a Scott Boras client is going to sign, Washington is always a safe guess.
On the face of it, 2/$21M for Wieters is a perfectly reasonable deal. Back before the offseason began, I guessed he’d sign for 2/$28M, while the crowd’s estimates put him at 3/$36M. But despite the long-rumored connection between the two, it remains a bit of a weird fit, because it’s not entirely clear that Wieters really makes the Nationals much better.
At the plate, Wieters isn’t clearly better than Norris, even with the latter’s miserable 2016 as our most recent data point. ZIPS projects Wieters for a .305 wOBA against Norris’ .296 mark, while Steamer actually has it at .308/.306 in favor of Norris. If you prefer results to projections, Norris has a career 93 wRC+, while Wieters is at 97, but Norris is two years younger. Wieters makes more contact, so he runs a better batting average and appears better by traditional numbers, but the gap between them at the plate is so small as to not really matter.
Behind the plate, again Wieters is better at traditional metrics, with a slightly better career caught stealing rate (33% vs 26%), but that gap isn’t all that important — there’s also plenty of evidence suggesting that stolen base rates have more to do with the pitcher than the catcher — and when it comes to converting called pitches into strikes, Norris has a clear advantage. Statcorner has Norris at +22.5 runs from framing in his career, while Wieters is at -20.9. Prorated to 10,000 pitches, that’s roughly +6.5 per season for Norris and -3.2 for Wieters, so about a 10 run swing between them per year.
Of course, the effects of framing may be getting reduced, especially if Major League Baseball gets its way and raises the strikezone this year. A 10 run gap between them per year doesn’t mean we should assume a 10 run gap between them going forward, and I don’t think there’s enough of a difference here to argue that Norris’ edge at getting umpires to call pitches in his favor overwhelms the fact that Wieters is a switch-hitter with a slightly better offensive skillset, and he does have a better throwing arm than Norris does.
But there’s just not much evidence that Wieters is clearly better than Norris either. They’re both below average catchers, which is why the Padres gave Norris away and Wieters sat around in free agency until the end of February. If there’s an upgrade here, it’s a marginal one at best, especially because the team will now likely have to dump Norris or Lobaton for not much in return, given that they can’t carry all three catchers on their Opening Day roster.
So, after spending a few months not spending money to upgrade their bullpen or their worst-in-the-league group of reserves, the Nationals found $21 million to give to a catcher who isn’t significantly better than the catcher they already had. It’s not that Wieters isn’t worth $10 million in 2017 dollars, but that if the Nationals had this money available to upgrade the roster, there were probably better ways to spend it.
For one, they still haven’t replaced Mark Melancon in the bullpen, and while you’re not getting an ace closer to 2/$21M, plenty of solid relievers have signed for less than that over the last few months. Would you really rather have Wieters displace Norris behind the plate than have signed Brad Ziegler, who got 2/$16M? Or any of the useful left-handed 1B/LF types who could have provided depth behind Jayson Werth and Ryan Zimmerman? Even if that money just became available today, I’m pretty sure $21M could get you Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan with enough money left over to finance Joe Blanton and Angel Pagan bobblehead dolls for everyone who comes to some random game in July.
It’s not like signing Wieters to a cheap-ish contract is some kind of huge problem for the Nationals, and if the strike zone shifts and framing becomes less of a thing, perhaps the Nationals will be happy they made a spring training catcher switch. But in looking at this roster, if I had $21 million left to spend, it looks to me like another reliever and a better fourth outfielder would have been a more efficient way to upgrade this team than to replace one okay catcher with another okay catcher.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
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i’m enraged. they’re going to win in hockey too. screw them!
I’ll believe that when I see it.
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There are reports that CWS may trade them Robertson for a C, which makes it make a lot more sense.
If flipping Severino to CWS for Robertson follows this deal up, then at least it makes some sense. It becomes a standard cash + prospects = win now arrangement.
Yup. Severino + 21M for Weiters and Robertson looks good to me.
Plus whatever portion of Robertson’s contract CWS are not eating (if we’re counting the $$)
Missing some obvious free agent nuance, but Michael Saunders + Brad Ziegler were had for $4 million less than Wieters. Jon Jay + Greg Holland went for $6 million less.
Theoretically, the Nats could have had Brandon Moss (instead of Adam Lind?), an outfielder (Saunders, Jay, Rajai Davis?), AND a relief pitcher for the cost of Wieters. Heck, Wellington Castillo only got a one year deal for $6 million. They could have signed him and a depth piece for the lineup and the bullpen.
Even if they turn around and flip a catcher to the White Sox for Robertson, it’s difficult to see how they couldn’t have just spent their money more wisely and come out ahead.
Why is Joe Blanton still a FA?
(*rattles zipper*)
Because he’s waiting, not because nobody wants him. Soon as some good-team reliever’s elbow cracks, Blanton both gets more money and maximizes the desirability of the role he starts out with.
The good news here is that the Rays reported offer for 1 year @$13M or so was not accepted. Maybe they can trade for Norris.
NO shot tampa offered 1/$13 million…just.no.shot
Dave, would this have been on your Worst 10 List.
Why do you think the Nationals waited until the day after?
Oh come on Dave, you really believe the Steamer projections? The Nationals catching situation sucked for a contender.
Norris fell off the face of the earth last year. 2nd year in a row that his walk rate was crappy comparatively to his earlier years. His k% was over 30%. He’s getting paid $4.2M next year, in his 2nd season of arb. His good performance at the plate in the past is all about his BB rate and his last 1000 or so PAs he runs at 7.2% rather than 12-20%. I can’t think of anyone that has reversed such a terrible walk rate trend after such a long period of appearances. (Not to say it hasn’t happened, just can’t think of any good players that have done it.)
Norris was the worst qualified hitter in MLB last year and while his BABIP was down .070 from his last 3 years, just look at his quality of contact! http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2016-hitter-contact-quality-report-nl-catchers/ Unless you want to tell me Norris was hurt, I want nothing to do with him starting on a contending team (that has a window of 2 more Harper years) even though he was formerly productive and is just 28.
Worst/Best Wieters/Norris seasons over their career
1 / -.5
4.4 / 2.6
It’s easy to think that Norris was a lot better than he showed last season because of the BABIP, the strong Hard%-Soft% performance, an O-Swing% better than the average catcher, and a Z-Contact% only slightly worse than the average catcher. Undoubtedly some of last season’s horrendous results did come from bad luck, and I was prepared to write a rebuttal telling you why you’re underestimating him up until I found out that Derek Norris was more than twice as bad against fastballs as any other catcher with at least 300 plate appearances. Basically, he’s Byung-ho Park as a catcher.
Does Sean Rodriguez count as one?
Also, catcher is the easiest position to platoon. Wieters is a switch hitter who will likely hit righties better than Norris
Norris’ adjusted contact quality score was 96, which is roughly league-average. The whiffs were the problem, not the quality of contact. I’d agree that Wieters is probably more than just a marginal upgrade over Norris, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Norris was playing through some sort of injury last year, given the suddenness of his offensive dip. I don’t know whether it’s the sort of injury that was remedied by an off-season of rest, but something was up.
How much a factor is the opt out? If Wieters ends the season as the Nats’ starting catcher, I imagine he’d exercise it. Leastwise grab a few more $mill in return for not doing so. So as with every Boras contract, the team could lose out big, but has no reasonable chance of winning big on it.
Everyone’s been talking about Russia blackmailing Trump, but the only blackmail going on in DC is what Scott Boras must be doing to Ted Lerner.
Easy joke, but for all the Boras clients on the Nats roster, how many of them are bad contracts?
I’ll answer for you. Exactly one, Jayson Werth:
Scherzer: Going market rate for an elite pitcher
Strasburg: BELOW market rate for what he would have received as a FA in 2016/17
Werth: 7/126 was seen as ugly at the time. He’s earned 13.5 WAR so far with 1 year left. That’s an overpay, but not disgustingly so.
Rendon: Still playing under his $7.2M rookie contract
Harper: It’s gonna be a doozy!
Also three players still in MiLB, all paid over slot but come on … rookie wages is peanuts!
Oops! There are more:
Gio Gonzalez: Entering year 4 of a 5/42. He’s already earned almost 10 WAR and has two years left on the contract. Massive team bargain.
Oliver Perez: 2/7. Stephen Drew: 1/3.5 – both perfectly reasonable deals for bench and bullpen pieces.
Rendon’s salary wasn’t negotiated on the free agent market by Scott Boras (it was largely determined by arb rules), and the Nats didn’t draft him bc he was a Boras client (at least I don’t think they did), so I’m not sure what he has to do with whether Boras is taking advantage of the Nats. The same goes for Harper’s salary. Guys in arbitration are always underpaid, and Boras sure as heck isn’t facilitating that.
Gonzalez signed an extension pre-arb, and those are almost always favorable for the teams, especially when pitchers sign them. Nonetheless, Boras got the Nats to give him the largest deal for any pitcher yet to go though arb in baseball history, to that point. Also, the Scherzer and Strasburg deals aren’t supposed to look bad on the front end, just like the Werth deal didn’t look nearly as bad five years ago. I don’t think Boras is putting one over on the Nats, but they aren’t getting bargains.
They’re not getting bargains, no. But they’re also not functioning as an ATM for Boras’ clients. What they DO seem to have is a very good, effective, professional working relationship where both sides get the value that they want. The only thing Boras “must being doing to Ted Lerner” is helping him to field a pennant contending baseball team.
If the value the Nats want is FAs at the market rate, then yeah. Boras hasn’t facilitated the Nats success. Good drafts have. The only FA on the Nats that looks like a real bargain is Daniel Murphy, and Boras wasn’t his agent. I guess what I’m saying is that if Scott Boras had never been born, the Nats baseball team wouldn’t be any worse off than it is right now.
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Seems worth mentioning that if the Nats depth was such a problem then signing another average player should be a good thing. They could’ve used the money more efficiently earlier in the off season, but at this point I’d count it as a win for them.
Statcorner says right on the site that if you want accurate pitch framing stats to look at the Baseball Prospectus pitch framing stats. So why are you quoting Statcorner?
Norris is bad on both sides of the ball. Pitchers didn’t like him and pitchers ERA’s spiked up with him as their catcher, his game calling has been called into question his entire career, his ability to frame pitches is mediocre at best, he is far closer to the worst than the best in PB and WP, only one catcher in baseball was run on more than Norris and his CS% is among the worst. Both counting stats and rate stats, he is bad. If he hit well then that would make him valuable. Since June of 2015 he has hit .206/.263/.365 Low average, mediocre power. Not enough to lift him out of backup catcher status.
Salty, salty Nats fans. Dave doesn’t genuinely believe anything he writes, you know. He just hates your team.
Derek Norris framing runs per Baseball Prospectus (2015-2016): +22
Matt Wieters framing runs per BP (15-16): -8
As an A’s fan who suffered through the 2014 Wild Card game, I can’t imagine a contending team would want Norris behind the plate against any team that can possibly steal a base. His CS % has been 21% or worse two of the last three seasons and it’s reasonable to suspect his shoulder is a continuing issue.
Even in his best years, Norris was a poor hitter against righthanded pitching. He should be a fine platoon partner for Wieters, but I doubt he would have been a good everyday starter considering he’s a career .210/.284/.341 hitter against righties.
Bill Freehan is still the most under rated catcher of all time,sorry wrong article.
It’s an overpay but might work out for Washington. In an ideal world, Wieters has a 4+ WAR season, opts out, signs a long term contract with another team who can enjoy his age-related decline, and Lobaton steps up in 2018. It’s possible
Lobaton is 32. You’re thinking of Severino.