Nelson Cruz Wasn’t Out by a Mile
The Dominican Republic hadn’t lost a game in the World Baseball Classic since 2009. They’ve been a juggernaut, an unstoppable force barreling through immovable objects. That ended last night when Puerto Rico beat them 3-1 in a game that was much wilder than its score would indicate. One of the more dazzling plays was Javier Baez putting a no-look tag on Nelson Cruz on an ill-advised steal attempt.
When we say ill-advised, we really mean it. For one, Yadier Molina was behind the plate, and Yadi has been of the best in the business at throwing out baserunners. Cruz can only really be called a baserunner because of the fact that he does, in fact, technically run between the bases, even if “lumbering” may be a better verb for this scenario. Cruz is a large, 36-year-old adult human being. He hasn’t recorded a positive baserunning figure since 2010. Whatever speed he once possessed (24 steals in Triple-A in 2008!) is almost entirely gone.
There’s also the factor of Baez, who has revealed to the surprise of many that tagging is a real skill. So, yeah, we’re not sure why Cruz was running here, especially with two outs and an 0-0 count on Adrian Beltre. But run he did, and well, this happened.
Baez didn’t even look at Cruz. He was pointing to Molina and grinning like a kid on Christmas before he even caught the ball. You silly, silly man, he’s probably thinking to himself. Thanks for the free out. Cruz is out by a mile, and Peurto Rico gallops off to the dugout. Goddamn, Javy Baez. Goddamn, Yadi. Jeez, Nelson Cruz.
But hold on a second, here. Slow-motion video affords us the chance to take a closer look at plays like this. It also affords us the chance to make complete and utter fools of ourselves, as I may be about to do here. But I’ve been writing here long enough for all of you to get used to that by now, so hang with me here for a second. Let’s roll the film again.
This isn’t an episode of CSI, so I can’t tell the lab tech to enhance the video and clean up the pixels. I can, however, tell you that the umpire was on the shortstop side of second base, and that his view of Baez’s glove was obstructed by Cruz’s legs and tookus. And here’s a warning, because this is about to turn into a bad knock-off episode of CSI.
The law of inertia tells us that an object will remain at rest or on its current trajectory unless acted upon by an outside force. An outside force could be the wind, gravity, or a sliding Nelson Cruz. Baez’s arm shoots straight down as soon as he receives the ball, and hangs there for Cruz to run into. It’s absolutely possible that he grazed Cruz’s knee, and that this is all a lot of hot air. I look forward to you telling me I’m wrong in the comments, because I’m almost definitely wrong. Playing umpire from home is a bad idea.
Where were we? Not Australia, but inertia. Baez’s arm remains in the position he put it in until Cruz slides into it. If we watch the slow motion angles of the video, we see that his arm doesn’t start recoiling until it comes into contact with the area around Cruz’s belt, and not with his knee. Now, because Baez is a very strong man, it’s possible that his arm wouldn’t react much to his glove being grazed by Cruz’s knee, and would only move perceptibly when that same glove made contact with Cruz’s torso. But look at where Cruz’s foot is when Baez’s arm starts to recoil.
Every time I watch this replay, though, I’m more and more convinced that Cruz really might be safe. I’m being influenced by my own biases. If you could see me right now, you’d probably notice a faint resemblance to the crazed mad scientist from a bad movie version of Frankenstein. But man, Javy Baez made this a lot closer than it had to be. This isn’t to criticize Baez for being jubilant and celebrating. Baseball is better when players showboat and make the game entertaining. The unwritten rules largely stink. Baez’s showboating may have given Cruz a stolen base, though. Thankfully for Baez, the umpire didn’t see it that way.
There’s no way of knowing for sure whether Cruz was safe. More likely than not, he was out. But this play really wasn’t the one-sided slaughter it appeared to be, and Cruz really might have been safe.
But I’m also probably wrong.
Nick is a columnist at FanGraphs, and has written previously for Baseball Prospectus and Beyond the Box Score. Yes, he hates your favorite team, just like Joe Buck. You can follow him on Twitter at @StelliniTweets, and can contact him at stellinin1 at gmail.
Javier Baez loves playing baseball and I love watching him love playing baseball.
I’m not a religious man….but Amen to that.
I’m all for celebrating, but you should make sure you get the out before celebrating! Otherwise it’s like dropping the football on the one yard line.
Gotta agree here. Youthful exuberance is great, but the beauty of the game is in excellent execution. The exuberance would have been embarrassing if he’d blown the tag (which he maybe almost did) and wasted Molina’s awesome throw. Respect the game.
I get what you’re saying, but that exuberance is also why he makes some of the amazing plays that he does. The Cubs want him to execute as well as he can, but are trying to make sure they don’t coach the joy out of his game. (this has been a topic of discussion in Chicago… Theo, Maddon, etc have talked about it)
Absolutely agreed. That is a good phrase, “don’t coach the joy out of his game” and it is a fine line for a coach to walk. Maddon has also said he wants the kid to “make the routine plays routinely” without emphasizing the flash.
Thanks for your 2 cents Goose.
This post is inane. Find something marginally important to write about.
Yeah! It really sucks that we are forced to read this free content that the writers of Fangraphs pump out day after day all year round about every aspect of the game we all love. I hate reading about baseball too!
“Free content”
Someone is paying for it. Advertisers likely. Don’t act like these guys sit at home and do this out of the goodness of their hearts. My traffic to the website pays their bills.
How generous of you to do them the favour of reading their content so that someone else will pay them to advertise on their site. Jordioteque is complaining, even though to him this isn’t something he pays for. It may not be something that the FG writers put out without compensation, but (a) I suspect that no one is getting rich behind this website, and (b) it is nevertheless content that readers enjoy at no cost, or for free.
That wasn’t very Alice Cooper-esque. Gotta have humor.
Haha! No don’t you know that every writer here is a starving artist? They sacrificed their potential earnings to provide free content on the web. My mom did something similar! She could’ve made lots of money, but instead she chose to be a school teacher, and provide “free education” even to those who didn’t have the income base to pay in taxes for those educational services! Argh. She was miserable!!!
Oh wait. She’s actually really happy. My bad…
No, someone is profiting off of it, but no one is required to pay to read this content, nor are you affording yourself an opportunity cost to read this article.
This reply isn’t inane and says something at least marginally important?
Because.. Fangraphs is the last place you’d go if you wanted to read someone’s fun thoughts on a super fun baseball play?
Hey I pay for my membership and I really liked this article. Entertaining and informative. While watching I was sure he was out! But maybe….
anyone who paid for a “membership” is a sucker haha
this site isn’t members only! LOLOLOL
paying for something does not make someone a sucker. It makes you honest
By not paying for content, you are asking people to work for you for free. Would you ask your mechanic to fix your car for free, or a plumber to repair your sink for free? No you wouldn’t because it isn’t fair. Yet, we want to be entertained for free, how is that fair?
And for full honesty, I am not a paying member here. I don’t use ad blocks, and am happy with the ads paying for my portion of the income this site needs to pay the employees it has. In fact, I think there are too few ads here most of the time. As long as they are not the ones that automatically make noise, or the ones that automatically make the screen center on it, I am happy to have them on the site.
Eh, not sure it’s an honesty issue. I like this site and have disposable income, so I pay. It’s not really a moral stance. I just tend to regard the tragedy of the commons as more of a dark comedy, and conduct my affairs accordingly.
says the guy who isn’t a member! you can’t make this stuff up. he tried to play the “holier-than-thou” card! LOLOLOL OMG my stomach hurts.
I am not playing the “holier-than-thou” card. I am stating facts. I expect nothing free. In fact working in entertainment I actually understand how this site is able to stay open through ads, though I don’t know the exact internet model, as I deal with television. I gladly watch ads and click through on some of them, so the site can collect money. If Fangraphs were implement a strict membership policy with paid content and free content, I wouldn’t complain, nor call people who chose to pay for the paid portion.
In the end, you can’t expect anything for free, which I am doing my part to generate revenue for this site with ad views, as well as clicks to make sure that some of my time at least goes to try to get these hard working people paid.
I am even arguing for the fact that since no money is directly coming out of my pocket, Fangraphs should be making the experience MORE inconvenient for me to utilize. I know that is probably against what most people would want, but it is only fair to the site.
ok good point…seriously I mean that…on a lighter note: I am doing my part by pissing people off so they create fake accounts to give me extra down votes.
GO FANGRAPHS!
Google “Delusions of grandeur”
Only if you Google “on a lighter note” first!
Alpha the problem here is that you are not paying for content, you are paying to remove ads, something that can be done for free. I have said many times that I have no issue with FG becoming a pay for content site, but I’m not giving them a dime for nothing essentially.
As a non-paying member, I totally agree that people who pay for memberships here are honest and I encourage such honesty!
Being a member helps keep this site going. I would like to keep this site going. The membership fee very affordable for me. It made it a very easy decision.
I can’t handle the ads. It is money well spent, just in time loading pages.
I hope this is a bad joke. How much value do these writers bring to your life? Def 25 bucks a year or whatever we’re paying for the membership. These people all have lives and bills and pour themselves into this.
If you want to not pay, that’s fine; that’s an option, after all.
But don’t be an ass.
“and pour themselves into this” LOLOLOL
Half of these guys work from home and are obese.
they pour themselves into sweat pants…LOLOLOL
This needs more down votes
Obliged. Downvoted you.
Fake accounts awaiting…
GO FANGRAPHS!
Nice to see someone enforcing the unwritten rules of baseball writing. No fun. Ask yourself, would Murray Chass write about this? Be professional. Come on.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Great article! It’s possible reckless base-running is the only thing more fun to watch than jubilance. Nelson Cruz and Javy Baez are both heroes!
But it looks to me like Baez gets him on the knee with the outside of the glove. Even if he misses there, I think the glove gets him in the groin before that foot touches the base. The arm doesn’t start to move until after contact, and it looks to me like the arm moves just before Cruz reaches base.
I agree with you. If you zoom in on the last gif, I’m pretty sure you can see the pants on Cruz move when Baez brings the glove down. The color of the pants definitely change, whether that’s movement or a shadow I can’t decipher, but I agree also that if Baez missed there then he definitely got him in the groin before Cruz got to the bag.
Great article though, a lot of valid points.
That’s the way I see it too!
I see it the same way. Cruz is out, but Baez made it very close because he didn’t look to see where he was tagging. If Cruz had any sliding avoidance talent (adjustment in sliding when you know you’ve been beaten) he probably could have avoided this tag, especially because Baez wasn’t watching where he tagged. I like Baez’s enthusiasm, I hate the fact that Baez can’t just do the job without feeling like he has to celebrate before the job is done.
It’s not totally clear when Cruz touches the base. I honestly think he’s not quite there when he starts to pop up, but he gets there at some point before the end of the GIF. I also think that Baez probably grazes him on the leg at some point. I’d really think that if he were looking at Cruz instead of Molina.
Also, there is a bit of showmanship in this that might work to Baez’ favor. The thing in baseball it is closest to in my opinion is the first baseman coming off first to catch the ball, but then acting like he’s just stretching out and not trying to re-engage the bag. Trying to get back on the bag is admitting you were off the bag.
Going to other sports, I’m amazed sometimes when I see a defensive back in football totally and obviously interfere on a pass, and then jump up and do the “incomplete pass” sign emphatically and then of course get hit with a penalty anyway.
He was out by a mile…
Yep not even close. Pure click bait.
If it ever gets to the point where someone in a video booth has to use one frame to justify overturning a call that’s 100-times-out-of-100-chances correct, baseball is screwed.
You missed the playoffs last year, eh? Spoiler alert – the Cubs won!
This was actually my best comment of all time. Unfortunate to see that it got lost in the shuffle.
We are already there with the microsecond loss of contact with 2B reviews.
What is more annoying is that the FG personalities won’t even reply to questions regarding pay for content models.
Sure looks like tip of glove starts to bend just as passing knee as well as pants momentarily fluttering as if hit (pants thing could just be video on phone though). Not conclusive, but much more likely a tag on knee than not.
Very happy to see this article! I immediately thought he missed the tag in the live broadcast.
Absolutely hilarious to hear the broadcast crew talk about how great of a job he did, when in reality it was a sloppy tag at best. Perhaps showboating isn’t a marker of great skill. The rest of the league just simply makes the tag. It was not a close play but he made it into one.
“Get off my lawn, that’s not how they did it in my day”.
Excellent point! Please enlighten me with your insightful analysis. I am looking forward to learning about how much the game has changed, because I clearly don’t understand how “tagging a runner” works. It is all so new and hard to understand, I am not sure if I am even saying it right. In my day it was all so different…
One day you will realize how foolish it is to mock experience and knowledge, but until that day continue to do so!
Love how the announcers were all about Baez flair. Of course, if he’d missed the tag or something, it would have been criticism of latin flair.
Not sure about the “latin” criticism part. Baez is a showboat, I think it would have been about that.
If only this were an episode of CSI: San Diego; the vehicle that’s parked conveniently on the opposite side of 2nd base and Cruz would show a reflection in the paint of the tag. We can tell the lab tech to enhance the video and clean up the pixels. I think our answer would be very clear. Do not laugh, this is how CSI solves crimes (actually seen in an episode!?).
throw beat him, he’s out.
#tagsmatter
As much as I am on here criticizing Baez, I agree with this. It was a poor decision by Cruz. This is a lot of chatter and analysis of bad baseball. The only guy who did a great job was Molina who is not getting much mention.
That is only because we all know that Molina is a great catcher.
We all know that Baez is a great tagger… so that logic doesn’t really hold up.
why doesn’t the hitter swing to protect the runner? Molina got a great throw off because he basically jumped the pitch. If the batter swings, Cruz is safe or you get Catcher’s Interference.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz decided to steal that bag on his own without a steal sign given to him. Pretty hard to decide you’re gonna try a hit and run with 2 outs on a 0-0 count in a second or two.
Because it was not a hit and run.
This was my first thought last night. The announcers were saying “Wow! Look how good he is that he doesn’t even have to look at the tag!” And I’m thinking “Wow! What a bone headed miscue to not look at the tag and assume the out. I think Cruz might have gotten in under it.”
Imagine how much he would have missed the tag by if he slid to the inside of the bag! Something head-first would have left Baez looking like a real fool.
You spelled Puerto Rico wrong in the fourth graf.
says the guy that can’t even spell “graph” right, despite the fact that exact word is plastered all over this site
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a-graf-2316031
Next time don’t be a snarky d-ckhead.
Fair play, never heard “paragraph” shortened to that. I’ll admit to snark biting me in the ass on this one.
Attack with snark and steel, defend with paper and pacifism. Passive-aggressive much?
Cruz ran because he wasn’t being held on. They baited him.
That really has to be a ding to your pride, being still hosed when they aren’t holding you on.
But it worked.
Baez is fun to watch! Molina too!
Fun article and comments section to read!
The only bonehead involved was Nellie. Running with two outs in the 8th, down two runs with Beltre at bat?!? Replay Schmeplay. Cruz was out the minute he broke for second! Respect the game!
“Baseball is better when players showboat and make the game entertaining”
Respectfully disagree. No problem with a guy celebrating a bit, but full blown showboating? Leave it for the clubhouse. It comes down to respecting your opponent, being humble. Once it crosses that line, I’ve had enough of it. Not to say what Baez did was bad. It wasn’t. Just speaking in general.
Let me guess, you’re a mortician.
Could not agree more. Keep the showboating off the diamond.
If you enjoy baseball without showboating, then that’s certainly your taste and I can’t argue with it. But I have a very hard time wrapping my head around this line of thinking. Baseball is entertainment. Showboating is entertaining. Even excessive showboating (like when, say, someone flips his bat on a warning-track flyout) can be fun b/c it gives you something to root AGAINST. I say more showboating, more expressiveness, more exuberance. Otherwise baseball seems very mechanical and dour. That’s not to say I don’t also admire guys who “keep their heads down” and “respect the game” – the Cal Ripken approach – but dear god if I had to watch a whole ballfield of Cal Ripkens I think I’d shoot myself.
Watch his elbow. Looks to me like it moves away (toward RF) first, then towards 2B. I think that’s contact with the outer side of the leg, and then contact with torso.
I have no idea if Baez catches the knee or not, but you can definitely see (on a 27″ monitor anyway) that the tag catches Cruz’s right foot before he gets to the base. Whether he’s out by a mile or not, he certainly is out. I do like the hot-dog tag here, but only in this annual event. In the big leagues Baez had better be paying attention; in which case Cruz would have been out by a mile.
There sure was resitance when Baez tagged Cruz on his left knee before reaching the base. Good post though.
Javier Baez = DeSean Jackson
Please share whatever you are smoking!
Leave it to fangraphs to try and ruin a completely joyous play, with over analysis.
My life’s dream is to actually sap the joy from everything any baseball fan holds dear. Then I’ll move to conquering the Smurfs. That Gargamel guy was a chump.
What’s entertaining is a matter of personal taste. I do find Baez’s general joyous tone quite entertaining and welcome. But I don’t enjoy this play. Any kind of showboating that risks losing an easy out is selfish and stupid. Cheer that if you want, but when showboating blows a big game for your team, remember that you helped it happen.
No Mets fan can forget the cost of stupid showboating: Game 1 of the 2000 World Series, Timo Perez on first base with two out, prematurely celebrating what he thought was a homer by Todd Zeile, instead of running hard right away. The ball hit the top of the wall and stayed in play, Jeter’s relay nailed Perez at home, and the Mets lost in extra innings. It’s all fun & games, until someone blows a WS win.
Thank you for the Bill Paxton reference.