NL Division Series Games 5 Chat
| 4:49 |
: Are you excited? I’m Jessespano.gif excited.
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| 4:50 |
: We will get things going here shortly. It will be me and Kiley for the early games with Dan Szymborski and Nick Dika taking on the later games. |
| 4:50 |
: Here’s a quick things I wrote about the starters today: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/instagraphs/the-nlds-game-5-pitching-match…
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| 4:52 |
: Cardinals lineup:
For all the marbles
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| 4:52 |
: and Braves:
Game 5. Winner takes all.
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| 4:52 |
: Couple polls:
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| 4:53 |
: Rooting for?
Cardinals (36.3% | 32 votes)
Braves (31.8% | 28 votes)
Just hoping for a good game (31.8% | 28 votes)
Total Votes: 88
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| 4:53 |
:
Who will win?
Cardinals (48.7% | 20 votes)
Braves (51.2% | 21 votes)
Total Votes: 41
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| 4:59 |
: I am pumped.
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| 5:00 |
: Hi Craig I don’t have a question I’m just excited for some good ol elimination game baseball with some strong pitchers on the mound. Now how do I get out of work to watch the game…
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| 5:00 |
: Adam Duvall in LF.
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| 5:00 |
: Duvall is the one big lineup change. While he did hit the homer off Flaherty in game 1, Flaherty is better against righties and Duvall hasn’t had as much success against them.
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| 5:01 |
: For the Cardinals, Carpenter at third isn’t a change from the last two games, but it is a change from Game 2 when Foltynewicz shut down the Cardinals. Probably the right call for the Cardinals, but the defense does go down a bit. |
| 5:03 |
: For 2 innings, on FS1, I could not see the strike zone square. I panicked, but the umps call was the umps call. the pace of drama
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| 5:03 |
: In short, the umps are part of the game, and a bigger strike zone speeds it up.
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| 5:04 |
: I’m not sure I agree. I think pitchers are good enough to pitch to a smaller strike zone and we would see more swings and swifter play if the strike zone were smaller.
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| 5:05 |
: Fascinating that big league managers in 2019 still buy the fallacy of the hot hand and play a guy against his own strength and into his opponent’s strength on the basis of a one-time (pinch hit, no less) event that happened nearly a week ago, back when the Kurds were our allies.
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| 5:06 |
: It’s also possible that he wanted better defense in there, and citing recent track record is the better public excuse. It also seems like Markakis would be the more logical choice to the bench, but he’s been the everyday guy, so…
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| 5:07 |
: Also fascinating. haveing above average hitters give away outs in 2019! |
| 5:07 |
: Have to think Wong was partially bunting for a hit given he topped MLB in bunt hits, but not the best effort there.
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| 5:08 |
: Swanson saved a run right there keeping the ball on the infield.
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| 5:09 |
: (Very) SSS caveats and all that, but Goldschmidt has looked really good this postseason – how encouraging is that for Cardinals fans after a somewhat disappointing regular season for Goldy?
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| 5:10 |
: He did get somewhat unlucky this season and had a lot of big hits, but this Playoff Paul is what the Cardinals were hoping for all year.
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| 5:11 |
: I wrote about Ozuna a bit in the recap of Game 4 here: A word on Ozuna: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/braves-blow-chances-while-the-cardinals-st…
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| 5:12 |
: “The outfielder is having a fantastic series, with three doubles and two home runs among his eight hits in four games. He’s heading into free agency after what could be classified as a solid season. He put up a 110 wRC+ and 2.6 WAR at 28 years old. The free agent market for him remains murky, but it is possible his statistics this year underrate Ozuna’s performance. Based on exit velocity and launch angle, his .379 xwOBA is the 19th-best mark in the game. The 38-point gap between his wOBA and his xWOBA was the biggest in baseball among 135 qualified hitters. |
| 5:12 |
: The five players directly above and below him include Alex Bregman, Josh Donaldson, Pete Alonso, and DJ LeMahieu. Ozuna isn’t heavily shifted against and isn’t an incredibly slow runner such that he should be expected to have a much lower wOBA, so his underperformance is mainly due to his home park — Busch Stadium is tough on righties — and bad luck. The 10 players closest to Ozuna in xwOBA averaged a 136 wRC+ and with neutral luck, we’d be talking about Ozuna’s five-win season this year.”
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| 5:12 |
: his batted ball profile was almost identical. was it park effects? he was 40 points under his career average babip
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| 5:12 |
: The change in parks certainly didn’t help Goldschmidt, though he also just wasn’t quite as good as he was in Arizona.
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| 5:14 |
: So putting Carpenter in the lineup is already affecting the game and uses his good eye to get a bases loaded walk.
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| 5:14 |
: Probably not the start Foltynewicz was looking for…
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| 5:15 |
: Definitely not. He hasn’t been bad by any means with a couple tough breaks, but the only out is a sac bunt at this point. |
| 5:16 |
: “he’s got the couch out right now for foltynewicz” – what a line
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| 5:16 |
: who is Edman??
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| 5:16 |
: Didn’t know? Now ya know.
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| 5:19 |
: In Jack Falherty’s second-to-last start of the regular season, he pitched a gem with 11 Ks in 7 innings, but the Cardinals lost. Then, with the season on the line, Flaherty pitched in game 162 and the Cardinals jumped out to a 4-0 lead in the second inning and won the game easily. It’s still early, but…
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| 5:19 |
: another Craig Edwards Cardinals puff … chat
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| 5:19 |
: it’s heading that way. |
| 5:19 |
: Baseball is so cruel; Folty’s comeback story is totally derailed after not even one full inning.
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| 5:19 |
: Well, I’m not sure totally derailed is right given how well he’s pitched lately, but getting just one out isn’t what he or the Braves were hoping for.
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| 5:20 |
: Sorry for the delay, had a contractor wrapping up some work but KILEY IS HERE
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| 5:20 |
: SEEMS LIKE I MISSED A FEW THINGS
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| 5:20 |
: Feel a little better about turning down tickets last minute
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| 5:21 |
: Just the pitcher batting in the first inning. No biggie. |
| 5:21 |
: and walking.
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| 5:22 |
: Really tough spot for Fried. Bases loaded is tough, but in the first inning, I’m not sure you can really prepare for that.
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| 5:23 |
: Okay so what is the most lopsided elimination game in history? Seems like that might be in play at this rate…
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| 5:23 |
: this is really insane
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| 5:24 |
: Funny you should ask. I don’t know if this game is it, but in 1996, the Braves beat the Cardinals 15-0 in game 7 of the NLCS as the Cardinals blew a 3-1 lead.
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| 5:24 |
: Bader defensive sub bottom 1? (half joking) |
| 5:24 |
: Ok, just got home from work, traffic was a bit hectic, but looks like I haven’t missOH MY GOSH
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| 5:24 |
: do we know what the mercy rules are in NLDS games
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| 5:25 |
: I guess it could end up being one of the best comebacks/choke jobs of all time though…
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| 5:25 |
: this question came 10 minutes ago
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| 5:25 |
: I believe the rule is that when you score 9 in the first, you say, MERCY!
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| 5:26 |
: 
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| 5:26 |
: The Braves need MadBum.
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| 5:26 |
: At what point, do the Cardinals pull Flarehty if they continue to extend the lead?
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| 5:26 |
: Anybody agree?
Pull Jack. Have him start Game 1.
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| 5:26 |
: i think all of their bums are mad rn
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| 5:27 |
: i’d go bullpen game here. i get that it isn’t a great message to say that this game is now less important..but it’s also 10-0
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| 5:27 |
: So you have to get 9 innings. NLCS starts Friday.
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| 5:27 |
: Kiley you may have missed the entire important part of the game
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| 5:27 |
: the important part was me not going
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| 5:28 |
: Ozzie Albies wasn’t smiling when the camera cut to him, which means this is officially a disaster.
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| 5:28 |
: the real tragedy
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| 5:28 |
: ponce de leon and genesis cabrera can get a few each I would imagine. I think you could give Flaherty two innings if they are low stress and pull him.
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| 5:29 |
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Do you pull Flaherty?
Right now (1st inning) (33.6% | 63 votes)
In first three innings? (51.8% | 97 votes)
Let him pitch a normal game? (14.4% | 27 votes)
Total Votes: 187
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| 5:31 |
: This is what happens when you ban the tomahawk chop. Without racism, their superpowers are gone.
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| 5:31 |
: correlation, causation, something, something.
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| 5:31 |
: I think if you score 9 in the first you say “merci!”
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| 5:31 |
: Scoring on a strikeout…this is really awful now
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| 5:32 |
: Now?
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| 5:32 |
: Cardinals first. Fowler walked on a full count. Wong sacrificed, pitcher Foltynewicz to first baseman Freeman, Fowler to second. Goldschmidt hit an infield single to shortstop, Fowler to third. Ozuna singled to right, Fowler scored, Goldschmidt to second. Molina safe at first on fielding error by first baseman Freeman, Goldschmidt to third, Ozuna to second. Carpenter walked on a full count, Goldschmidt scored, Ozuna to third, Molina to second. Edman doubled to right, Ozuna scored, Molina scored, Carpenter to third. DeJong was intentionally walked. Fried pitching. Flaherty walked, Carpenter scored, Edman to third, DeJong to second. Fowler doubled to left, Edman scored, DeJong scored, Flaherty to third. Wong doubled to center, Flaherty scored, Fowler scored. Goldschmidt flied out to right fielder Markakis, Wong to third. Ozuna struck out, safe on Fried’s wild pitch, Wong scored.
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| 5:32 |
: This is less devil magic and more satanic wrath, if you ask me.
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| 5:32 |
: Plus a Yadi groundout for the late-arriving crowd.
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| 5:33 |
: How hard is it to pitch as Flaherty when you have a ten run lead here?
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| 5:33 |
: If I was in the crowd I would leave now. Beat the traffic. Nothing left to see here. C-ya
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| 5:33 |
: He’s probably still upset about game 2 so I don’t think it is an issue for him.
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| 5:33 |
: it’s also rush hour in ATL so maybe not beating the rush
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| 5:33 |
: I know it’s already sort of garbage time, but that play by Donaldson was really beautiful.
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| 5:34 |
: that’s the spirit. We’ll be here a while.
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| 5:34 |
: silver lining: pace of play should be good rest of the way
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| 5:34 |
: lots of fastballs, no one is taking any one pitch too seriously, not a ton of pitching changes
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| 5:34 |
: and we get a walk.
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| 5:35 |
: That panicked scurrying sound you here is the entire TBS programming department trying to figure out how they can get Seinfeld reruns on.
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| 5:35 |
: this is the manager version of no DB’s within 30 yards, standing in the end zone, praying you don’t drop the rainbow pass
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| 5:35 |
: Kiley are you enjoying this, seeing how things “ended” with the Braves?
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| 5:35 |
: This was not the lead-in for Dodgers-Nationals they were hoping for.
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| 5:35 |
: they actually put in bader, wow
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| 5:35 |
: believe it or not, but i don’t root for them or against them. i do like seeing some of the young players i was involved with doing well
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| 5:36 |
: Just remember, no lead is safe with carlos martinez
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| 5:36 |
: So, let’s say the Cards pull Flaherty and the Braves mount a comeback over 3 innings culminating in Carlos Martinez vs. Acuna with men on in a tie game 10-10. The drama, right?
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| 5:36 |
: especially if you disrespect the game, anything can happen
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| 5:37 |
: paging Frank Reich!
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| 5:37 |
: “you love to have the lead but with it comes challenges” – what great analysis
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| 5:38 |
: “lots of pressure to not give up 10 runs” is a real burden
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| 5:39 |
: If the Cards can score 10 in the first so can the Braves!
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| 5:39 |
: they might even score 11.
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| 5:39 |
: Jack is not making this easy on us
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| 5:40 |
: Anyone warming for the cards? Not able to watch….
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| 5:40 |
: doesn’t appear so
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| 5:40 |
: 10-0 is the most dangerous lead in baseball
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| 5:40 |
: good thing STL didn’t have a rally-killing HR in the 1st
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| 5:41 |
: This dismantling of the Braves is brought to you by Utz. Utz: The only thing that will make Atlanta fans feel worse than that first half-inning is our manufactured cheese balls.
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| 5:41 |
: they are truly heinous
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| 5:41 |
: Teams scoring 10 runs in a playoff game are 151-4.
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| 5:42 |
: “So you’re telling me there’s a chance”
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| 5:43 |
: Look on the bright side, now we get 8 innings to have the ‘what are you not allowed to do in a lopsided game’ unwritten rules come out of the woodwork
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| 5:43 |
: not on Brian McCann’s watch!
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| 5:43 |
: St. Louis sent 14 men to the plate in the highest-scoring first inning in MLB postseason history.
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| 5:43 |
: Teams scoring 10 runs in the first inning of a playoff game are 0-0.
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| 5:43 |
: One of them is the 2017 WS game with the Dodgers and Astros right?
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| 5:44 |
: Not saying it’s right or wrong but given that Flaherty pitched a normal game 162 after StL had already clinched the central, I’d assume they’d do the same here?
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| 5:45 |
: Very different situation. They would still have to play a 163 if they didn’t win and the Brewers won as well. Plus, he was still set up to play game 2 and 5 of NLDS on normal rest. In this scenario, if Flaherty pitches a full game, he can’t go until game 3 of NLCS and maybe only gets one game. Pitching 1 and 5 is way better for St. Louis.
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| 5:46 |
: My proprietary model forecasts the final score of this game will be 90-0.
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| 5:47 |
: Is this the earliest that a non-injury defensive substitution has happened? (In the playoffs, since I assume it’s happened before in the regular season; everything’s happened in the regular season).
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| 5:47 |
: at least tied, I would think.
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| 5:47 |
: What if it really starts pouring and the game is washed out. Would they resume at 10-0 in the 2nd or wipe the score and start over?
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| 5:47 |
: I can’t even imagine.
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| 5:48 |
: 85% of you think Flaherty should not pitch a normal game.
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| 5:49 |
: What do you think the worst managerial decision has been so far in the playoffs?
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| 5:49 |
: Brian Snitker calling the give-up-10-runs-in-the-first-inning play.
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| 5:50 |
: Kiley, I heard (from an anonymous source; let’s call this person “Reg Mowley”) you got new kitchen cabinets. How are they?
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| 5:50 |
: yes they are great, they don’t yet have counters on them yet, that’ll take about a week, but the guys measuring for the counters just left. soft close and slow close, off white
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| 5:51 |
: i’m currently being needled to start my lifestyle brand
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| 5:51 |
: the working name is dude goop
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| 5:52 |
: So if you bet the over on 7.5 runs, do you have to wait for the game go end to cash the ticket?
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| 5:52 |
: i think this policy differs by each sportsbook
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| 5:52 |
: I don’t see Flaherty going any less than 6 innings or like 85 pitches. Anything else is really bad optics. And if the Cardinals were to lose the game, you would never hear the end of it
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| 5:52 |
: this is the same terrible reason to not go for it on 4th down because its an unusual call, so you get hammered more if you fail that way
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| 5:53 |
: have to manage for the best championship odds
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| 5:53 |
: not nonsense PR downside
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| 5:53 |
: Braves decreased the Cardinals offense by 90% from the first to second inning.
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| 5:54 |
: If the Cards bullpen can’t hold a 10 run lead without Flaherty they don’t deserve to move on.
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| 5:54 |
: It’s sad when you are trying to think up scenarios that give you a shot at winning and the best I’ve got is a hurricane, earthquake, or Godzilla attacking
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| 5:54 |
: is that…do I hear? THAT’S JULIO JONES’ MUSIC
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| 5:54 |
: What’s the effect of Flaherty pitching like 40 pitches today and then starting game 1 of the NLCS? Basically like a bullpen session?
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| 5:54 |
: It would be like if a starter came on in relief for a couple innings in between starts, which happens in the postseason at least semi-regularly.
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| 5:55 |
: is shildt the kind of manager that would care about getting Flaherty the “win”?
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| 5:56 |
: I wouldn’t think so. If Flaherty stays in, it is because he wants to guarantee the Cardinals win this game.
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| 5:56 |
: We give the announcers crap all of the time, but it must be a nightmare to announce a game like this. Hell, it must be tough to chat!
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| 5:56 |
: feel like it’s much easier because, if you have any interests, curiousity or personality, you can do as much of that as you want
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| 5:56 |
: Ooh soft close and slow close means you can’t slam them to passively-aggressively show your anger towards those in your vicinity… Seems like a mistake imo.
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| 5:57 |
: they also can’t do it to me
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| 5:58 |
: I hope somebody gets on base so they can take Fried out, he looks, well, fried
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| 5:58 |
: in the south, things are either deep fried or chicken fried, you’ve gotta pick one
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| 5:59 |
: lol darling is defending the flaherty decision because “no manager is prepared to be up by 11”
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| 5:59 |
: FYI – We’re in the 2nd inning and Tommy Edman is a single and a home run away from the cycle.
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| 5:59 |
: like it happened in 27 seconds and he’s in shock, doesn’t have access to his faculties yet
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| 6:00 |
: you have the manager job to make tough, quick, decisive choices, often in situations that are unlikely
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| 6:00 |
: not adjusting to the circumstances because you’re “traditional” means your brain can’t handle the basic duties
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| 6:00 |
: 123 second inning for Flaherty. 33 pitches. Could easily pitch Friday or Saturday if you take him out now. starts getting questionable with another inning.
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| 6:01 |
: to be clear, taking him out now is still defensible. darling’s line of logic made no sense
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| 6:02 |
: this is still the amount of exertion a guy has on a throw/bullpen day, so friday would fit and still be on a relatively normal short-term schedule
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| 6:03 |
: I’m now imagining Mike Schildt on a twenty-minute time delay from reality.
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| 6:04 |
: He’s digging deep into his binder of notes, finds a tab that says, UP 10 IN THE FIRST INNING, flips to tab. It’s blank. Panic begins.
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| 6:05 |
: Quickly, some final lines from Braves pitchers: Foltynewicz: 0.1IP, 3H, 7R, 3BB, 0K Fried: 1.2IP, 4H, 4R, 1BB, 2K |
| 6:05 |
: Is that bad?
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| 6:05 |
: Would the Cardinals have home field advantage in the nlcs if the Nats beat the Dodgers? Since it’s based on seeding not record
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| 6:05 |
: Yes. Cardinals get home field if both they and the Nationals win.
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| 6:09 |
: TBS already going to previewing the 2nd game..
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| 6:09 |
: Please stick around. Please.
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| 6:10 |
: I’m sorry but that’s stupid. Why should the Cards have home field advantage over a team that won two more games? Because they were in the same division as a 97-win team they get punished for it? Ridiculous
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| 6:10 |
: Maybe they are just being punished for playing the Marlins so many times.
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| 6:10 |
: No homers in this game. If you told me a team scored 11 runs in two innings in 2019 without any homers I’d be flabbergasted.
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| 6:10 |
: Interesting.
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| 6:10 |
: I really would prefer the Cardinals not play the Dodgers, but I also would love to see a Flaherty/Buehler matchup. We’ve seen a few of those over the past few years already.
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| 6:11 |
: Jay with the awesome tweet- At first Atlanta’s pitching plan was Folty and now it’s just Fried.
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| 6:12 |
: do you think this type of loss might cost snitker j=his job?
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| 6:12 |
: if snit gets fired, it’s not because of this game
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| 6:12 |
: Kiley- I have a prospect question! If there were no hard caps, do you think Jasson Dominguez would have signed a bigger bonus (not saying whether he’s *worth* the bigger bonus but whether a team would have given it to him)?
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| 6:13 |
: yeah, at least a few million more
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| 6:13 |
: he’s worth a lot more than that, but there is a level of recruiting in the J2 market, where kids tend to like having a locked-in number a year in advance and family will turn down bigger offers even when they come
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| 6:13 |
: this happened with Maitan and other similar guys in the old system
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| 6:14 |
: At what point does Snitker throw in the towel? Put in bench players, pitch the guys in the back of the BP, etc.?
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| 6:14 |
: he won’t and he shouldn’t. this lineup can score 10 runs, it’s just unlikely
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| 6:14 |
: My partner’s family got the slow close cabinets and was so excited about them. They were all, “Check these out, Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes! You can’t slam them!”
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| 6:15 |
: You can slam them and they called me a jerk.
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| 6:15 |
: The Braves didn’t lose this series today. They lost it in game 4 when they squandered so many chances to score runs late in that game and failed. That should be the one they remember all winter, not this one.
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| 6:15 |
: yeah, if you’re really mad, you can slam them and it just lessens the noise. i may have tested this
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| 6:15 |
: It’s been an even series. This game wouldn’t have happened if the Cardinals hadn’t done the same thing as the Braves in Game 3.
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| 6:15 |
: Is the manager totally insulated from the front office during a game? Can a ball boy be sent down from Mozeliak with a note saying “yank Flaherty now!”?
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| 6:15 |
: Whichever team lost this series was going to look back and see a ton of missed opportunities.
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| 6:16 |
: typically there’s someone, like a trainer, that has a cell phone and is the guy you can relay messages without having to physically enter the clubhouse
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| 6:16 |
: can’t have the phone in the dugout, but trainer may have to call outside person for something so they have one
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| 6:18 |
: What’s this talk about Snit being fired? Is that really a thing?
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| 6:18 |
: I don’t think so. I was just saying this game isn’t a data point for that case
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| 6:18 |
: The only team to ever score more than 12 runs in a playoff game and lose were the 93 Phillies, who lost 15-14 to the Blue Jays. Phillies were up 14-9 going into the eighth.
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| 6:19 |
: The Edman cycle train just lost some steam.
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| 6:21 |
: The Braves still had a 2% WE after the Cardinals’ first inning. It’s down to 1% now.
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| 6:21 |
: Wasn’t there a Marlins Indians ’97 WS game that had both teams over 10 runs?
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| 6:22 |
: Yes. Marlins won 14-11. The game was 7-7 going into the ninth inning. Marlins scored 7 and Cleveland could only answer with 4.
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| 6:22 |
: Is the Edman cycle like a Peloton bike?
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| 6:22 |
: No. Edman is pretty inexpensive.
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| 6:23 |
: I think you could argue that Flaherty shouldn’t be batting just to avoid injury.
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| 6:23 |
: Does Acuna end up being this year’s version of Machado where we spend so much time obsessing about his attitude and work ethic this offseason?
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| 6:23 |
: I know I won’t be.
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| 6:24 |
: In Game 4 of the 1929 World Series, the A’s trailed the Cubs 8-0 heading to the bottom of the seventh before scoring 10 runs in the inning to win 10-8.
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| 6:25 |
: Assuming he isn’t pulled really soon, Flaherty pitches games 3 and 7 of NLCS rather than games 1 and 5, right? Not sure there’s much tactical difference.
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| 6:25 |
: Except game 5 is much more likely to happen.
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| 6:28 |
: Flaherty not being pulled
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| 6:29 |
: If we’re listening to a blowout broadcast, I’m glad it’s with Darling. He’s talking about tunneling now. There should be lots of time for asides.
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| 6:29 |
: Man recent Atlanta sports history isn’t exactly stellar is it?
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| 6:30 |
: At least they are making the playoffs to blow third quarter and playoff series leads.
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| 6:30 |
: Is there a significant difference for St. Louis in having Flaherty in games three and seven instead of one and five? Seems like the cost wouldn’t be until a potential World Series.
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| 6:31 |
: I asked Dan, and you can ask him later, but I think he’s going to run those scenarios for his NLCS preview. I’m guessing it makes some difference, but not a lot.
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| 6:31 |
: What’s worse, losing like the Braves or losing like the Twins?
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| 6:31 |
: The Braves got some enjoyment out of this series, I would imagine, so worse for the Twins.
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| 6:31 |
: So Flaherty now at 47 pitches.
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| 6:31 |
: “More instructional videos with Ron Darling, as we continue.” That’s good broadcasting.
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| 6:32 |
: Also if he pitches games 1 and 5, Flaherty would have 2 days rest prior to a potential game 7 (an inning or two of relief?)
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| 6:32 |
: if they have him in 1 and 5 they could potentially bring him in on short rest as a reliever in game 7 if it gets really tense right?
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| 6:34 |
: wow… This is the first time the Braves have allowed 10+ runs in the first inning of any game (regular season or postseason) since July 2, 1925 against the Brooklyn Robins.
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| 6:37 |
: The reason to keep Flaherty in is to keep him in his routine, right? There’s no other valid reason.
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| 6:38 |
: It’s to guarantee they win this game, which is pretty much already guaranteed.
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| 6:38 |
: Fowler maintaining a 1 AB per inning pace.
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| 6:38 |
: He’s not the only one.
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| 6:39 |
: BREAKING: The Cardinals didn’t score that inning.
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| 6:39 |
: Is there anyway for the Red Sox to move David Peice and his 3/96?
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| 6:39 |
: Sure, if they pay down a bunch of it.
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| 6:39 |
: Is it easier to write recap articles about close games or blowouts like this?
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| 6:40 |
: Easier: blowouts. A little less fun and easier necessarily means less stimulating. I’m currently trying to figure this one out while there were so many interesting things to talk about the one I wrote for Game 4.
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| 6:41 |
:
Braves down 13-0 against Cardinals. In 144 years of MLB, no team has ever won after being down by 13 runs in a game. Honorable mention: on 9/30/1894, the Cleveland Spiders came back to TIE after being down 16-3 to the Reds.
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| 6:42 |
: Flaherty still in the game. I think we are going to hear an awful lot about this if the Cardinals go down 2-0 or even go 1-1 in the NLCS.
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| 6:42 |
: What kind of contract do you think Ozuna gets after this year?
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| 6:43 |
: 5/80?
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| 6:43 |
: Josh Donaldson with a homer.
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| 6:44 |
: Hey the Braves have a run!
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| 6:44 |
: How much do you think they have to eat?
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| 6:44 |
: For Price? He just had wrist surgery so probably like $50 million. Maybe more.
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| 6:46 |
: So that homer didn’t change the win expectancy for the Braves.
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| 6:47 |
: So at this point is Flaherty locked into game 3 and might as well go 75-90 pitches?
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| 6:48 |
: I’m not sure. I think fewer pitches would still be better.
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| 6:48 |
: Does Flaherty remind anyone else of Wainwright? I know Flaherty is fastball/slider with a curve mixed in and Wainwright is the other way around, but I keep seeing prime Wainwright.
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| 6:49 |
: I think you are trying too hard. Most of the comparisons that get made are to Chris Carpenter if you are within the Cardinals world.
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| 6:49 |
: Flaherty gets through the 4th inning and now has a 13-1 lead.
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| 6:50 |
: Snitker should go. He isn’t the best manager available to a team with top 3 or 4 young talent. That would be Joe Maddon. Hire him, Bravos!
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| 6:50 |
: Certainly sounds like Maddon will end up in LA with the Angels.
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| 6:51 |
: I think it’s the neat, compact delivery.
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| 6:56 |
: Sez you. How could Joe refuse a shot with multiple years of World Series possibilities ahead?
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| 6:56 |
: I’m guessing the Angels will pay more and that Joe Maddon would love to manage Mike Trout and live in Los Angeles again.
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| 6:56 |
: Is it too reactionary to blame Maddon for the Cubs’ shortcomings this year? I’m not as convinced he’s a good manager as the apparent market demand for him would indicate
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| 6:57 |
: Yes. He certainly has his faults and its possible the veteran, static squad in Chicago wasn’t a great fit for his skills, but he’s never been great at managing a bullpen.
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| 6:58 |
: Not that the Cubs gave him much to work with. All that said, the Cubs weren’t bad. They just weren’t good enough.
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| 6:58 |
: Snitker’s fault this year in my opinion was how hard he ran Freeman, Albies, and Acuna during the season. No games off and they looked tired at points down the stretch. I don’t think Freeman is 100% with his elbow and Acuna has a hip issue that he’s been dealing with. I think his talent is the only reason he’s hit so well against the Cardinals in this series
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| 6:59 |
: Acuna Machado is a problem free philosophy
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| 6:59 |
: we both know it’s Acuna Moncada
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| 6:59 |
: Freeman is just hurt. Not much you can do about that. I’m not sure running down Albies or Acuna really affected anything here. Losing Martin right away really hurt because they had to use Fried in the pen instead of in Game four and that ended up hurting them.
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| 6:59 |
: Ozuna Moncada?
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| 7:00 |
: Oh by the way, Flaherty is still pitching.
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| 7:00 |
: have to think this is his last inning.
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| 7:03 |
: Flaherty aside, at what point do they consider taking out Molina to give him a little rest?
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| 7:03 |
: When Molina decides he’s ready to come out. They have a day off tomorrow. He’s catching that last pitch and running to the mound to celebrate.
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| 7:04 |
: Do you get the feeling like Schildt picked 5 innings because he still feels like he needs to get 5 out of his starter somewhere deep down inside?
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| 7:04 |
: that feels very consistent with his approach to baseball
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| 7:05 |
: Five innings is a full, but not quite full start where he can say he pitched the game, but still gave him some rest.
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| 7:05 |
: The Cardinals are still shifting.
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| 7:06 |
: Maddon seems like a terrible fit for a veteran club and/or a big market where his lovable antics/schtick won’t be deified by the local press. It may have worked for a little while in CHI, but that was probably because they still had the lovable loser perception and insane talent.
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| 7:07 |
: It worked in Chicago because he did a good job. It would have continued to do well if he had kept winning. The winning stopped and his message probably grew a little stale.
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| 7:07 |
: This is more or less the dumbest time for a bean ball war.
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| 7:07 |
: Sure is.
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| 7:07 |
: Braves fans finally unleashing the pent-up frustration. Let’s see if they go full Toronto.
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| 7:08 |
: Or full Infield Fly Rule.
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| 7:08 |
: Outfield fly rule
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| 7:08 |
: Tomato-Tomoto.
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| 7:09 |
: Why has Jack Flaherty thrown 89 pitches in this game
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| 7:09 |
: Good question.
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| 7:13 |
: 94 pitches now.
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| 7:14 |
: Out of curiosity, does anyone know if a pitcher has ever been removed from the game, not due to injury or trade, but just because they didn’t need him, before he ever threw a pitch?
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| 7:15 |
: This used to happen in game 162 if a team waited for the outcome of other games, but not sure about a blowout in the first.
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| 7:15 |
: At this point, would anyone be surprised if they let Flaherty bat?
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| 7:15 |
: I’m really surprised at this point.
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| 7:16 |
: There’s no way Flaherty can pitch until Game 3 at this point, but at 94 pitches, we are entering pitching tired territory and that can be dangerous for an injury.
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| 7:16 |
: Why in the world is Flaherty hitting?!
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| 7:17 |
: I don’t know, but he was slightly afraid of retaliation it looked like.
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| 7:17 |
: I actually feel a little better about them deciding this is Flaherty’s game than just arbitrarily picking 5 innings as a short outing
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| 7:17 |
: Now proof this isn’t about the pitcher win.
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| 7:18 |
: This is honestly verging on like, fireable offense levels of stupidity from Schildt
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| 7:20 |
: I wouldn’t go that far. He’s letting his starting pitcher pitch a normal game in Game Five of the NLDS. It’s not a good decision with this lead and the potential in the NLCS, but the good has far outweighed the bad this season.
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| 7:20 |
: At this point don’t you just want to get some relievers in to get them work and keep them sharp? Especially some of the lower leverage guys?
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| 7:21 |
: Some of those guys might be pitching for a roster spot in the NLCS, too.
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| 7:22 |
: just wanted to get it on the record that leaving flaherty in for 100 pitches is super dumb
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| 7:22 |
: Darling is sort of working through some defenses of this.
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| 7:22 |
: My seven-year-old is rooting for the Cardinals because she’s a staunch, upright young person and we’re raising her with sound values, but she lights up every time Acuna and Albies come on “because their hair floofs out like mine!” Let the kids play!
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| 7:22 |
: FanGraphs is pro hair floofs of all kinds
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| 7:23 |
: Shildt seems determined to give Flaherty the opportunity to qualify for a win
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| 7:23 |
: or now get a quality start
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| 7:23 |
: I get the letting him pitch a full game thing, but he’s approaching 100 pitches, up by TWELVE RUNS, and Schildt just let him bat in a situation where there was a clear risk that he could have been targeted with a 95 mph missile from 60 feet away. All of that seems inexcusable even if it wasn’t involving the literal best player on his team
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| 7:24 |
: It’s bad. It’s excusable in terms of having his current job.
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| 7:24 |
: Obviously the old school manager wants Flaherty to get a “decision” in the game.
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| 7:24 |
: i’m all for arguing for the gray area of traditional approaches having room in today’s game, but we’re well past that point now
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| 7:26 |
: You’re the new GM of a team and you have the technology to hire any manager (past or present) to manage your team. Who do you hire?
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| 7:26 |
: We are well past the keeping him in a rhythm point.
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| 7:27 |
: there’s lots of fine answers here and i’m wary of just picking a current guy because “they have to know analytics!” but i think rocco baldelli will be a popular answer to this in a year or two
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| 7:27 |
: Schildt just isn’t sure he’s awake right now so he’s experimenting. To be fair, I’m not entirely sure I’m awake right now either.
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| 7:28 |
: It hasn’t been the best series for Shildt. I think he picked the right lineup in Game Five and letting Carlos Martinez pitch in Game 4 could prove dividends, but there were a bunch of questionable decisions.
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| 7:29 |
: He’s generally been a manager who learns from his mistakes and he uses data to make his decisions, so I imagine he’ll improve. He and the Cardinals caught a bit of a break this series.
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| 7:30 |
: I can imagine the Dodgers/Nats would love the decision to keep Flaherty in if it weren’t for worrying about staving off impending doom in an hour.
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| 7:31 |
: One of the teams will be happy about it on Friday and Saturday, though tonight, they will just be celebrating a win.
|
| 7:31 |
: Any thoughts to why Carlos Martinez is closer when you have so many more talented arms in the bullpen?
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| 7:31 |
: I don’t think they have any more talented arms in the bullpen. He had a rough couple days. He’s been really good for them most of the season.
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| 7:32 |
: “I think he picked the right lineup in Game Five…” Yeah, I mean I hate to be totally outcome based, but they have scored 13 runs through six innings, so that’s probably right.
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| 7:32 |
: Win or lose, putting Carpenter in the lineup was the right one. Scroll to the beginning of the chat.
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| 7:32 |
: Slow down on the “so many more talented arms”. Martinez was the Cardinals’ ace for several years, and he was great this year.
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| 7:33 |
: He should probably go back into the rotation next year if he feels comfortable with his arm.
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| 7:33 |
: hallion has had a terrible game
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| 7:33 |
: Fortunately, I don’t think this is going to be the Hallion game.
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| 7:33 |
: The Cards have a very good analytical department but keep hiring old school managers . Why?
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| 7:35 |
: Not sure what you mean by old school? The Cardinals went from no shifts to a bunch under Shildt. They got better on defense and baserunning, which I guess is sort of old school, but that’s arguably what’s made the difference between teams that missed the playoffs the last few years and the team that made it this year.
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| 7:36 |
: They kinda got stuck with Schildt when they went on a tear under him as interim manager, right?
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| 7:37 |
: He’d been manager in waiting for a few years. He worked his way up through the minors for a decade to get to this spot. They wanted him to succeed. They didn’t have to extend him when they did. They chose to extend him at the very first hot streak they had because they wanted him to have the job full-time.
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| 7:37 |
: Is there any indication Martinez is going back to the rotation?
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| 7:37 |
: Who knows at this point. Everybody has more pressing issues at the moment. A lot will depend on the Cardinals offseason and how his arm is in spring.
|
| 7:37 |
: Shildt has been a good manager I think… But how he handled Flaherty today is just mind-numbingly dumb.
|
| 7:38 |
: That is fair.
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| 7:38 |
: I mean I would understand pitching Martinez as some kind of confidence-booster type thing, but pitching Gallegos just makes absolutely no sense. He’s managing this game like it’s 3-1 instead of 13-1.
|
| 7:38 |
: They have an off-day tomorrow and they had one yesterday. I’m not sure it matters that much.
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| 7:39 |
: Martinez going back to the rotation may depend on the health of Hicks
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| 7:39 |
: Hicks won’ be back at the beginning of the year, so it probably won’t matter.
|
| 7:39 |
: Let’s pause and consider the entirely impossible. The Pirates could have a rotation of Cole/Morton/Glasnow right now.
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| 7:39 |
: But not the right now Cole/Morton/Glasnow right now.
|
| 7:40 |
: My 7 year old son grades all athletes 90% by their hair and 10% other factors.
|
| 7:40 |
: on a 20-80 scale? We wouldn’t want grade inflation.
|
| 7:40 |
: I’m going to go out on a limb and predict neither team in the second game scores 10 runs……
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| 7:41 |
: Bold. Predict both teams combined don’t get to 10 runs and then you are getting somewhere.
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| 7:42 |
: Also, Mike Maddux and Mike Shildt carpooling to playoff home games so their s.o. can have the second parking spot when they go to the games is hilarious and awesome.
|
| 7:42 |
: Aaron Hicks says he is healthy and good to go. Any chance the Yankees add him for the ALCS (even just as a bench piece/defensive replacement) or do they just roll with what is working?
|
| 7:42 |
: If he’s healthy, I would add him. He’s really good.
|
| 7:44 |
: Both teams combined don’t even score six runs, how about that? Dodger Stadium, Strasburg vs Buehler with all hands on deck, pitching wise?
|
| 7:44 |
: The broadcasters are doing a great job finding things to talk about. This is nice, hearing about Schildt.
|
| 7:44 |
: They’ve done about as well as you can expect given the circumstances. I’m actually entertained. I’m also exhausted and could use a beer.
|
| 7:46 |
: Which team is Terrance Gore on right now?
|
| 7:46 |
: He was on the Yankees to end the season I believe.
|
| 7:46 |
: These chats are the very best way to enjoy playoff baseball. Thanks to all of you for putting in the long hours.
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| 7:47 |
: Thanks to all of you for continuing to watch baseball. I think the next three hours are going to be much more exciting.
|
| 7:47 |
: Where does this game rank in terms of lowest leverage index of a winner-take-all playoff game?
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| 7:49 |
: I don’t know, but looking at the game log by leverage index, there was just a single plate appearance with a LI above 2, Carpenter’s walk to make it 2-0. There were only 7 PA with a LI above 1 and 10 above 0.5.
|
| 7:49 |
: Braves haven’t allowed a run since the third inning.
|
| 7:50 |
: Harrison Bader with your typical 4 PA game off the bench in a game that didn’t go nine innings and his team scored three runs while he was in.
|
| 7:50 |
: Braves might not be allowing another run for 5 months.
|
| 7:50 |
: dang.
|
| 7:51 |
: The Cardinals need six outs. The braves need 12 runs to prolong things.
|
| 7:51 |
: Idk about the idea of activating Hicks for the ALCS… he’d essentially be getting his first rehab at bats against either Greinke or Snell.
|
| 7:51 |
: Not sure he’s necessarily in for his bat.
|
| 7:52 |
: So we figured out three of the games where a team scored 10 runs and lost in the playoffs (’93 WS, ’97 WS, 2017 WS) what was the fourth? Or did I just miss it
|
| 7:54 |
: 2002 World Series, Angels beat Giants 11-10. Angels scored two runs in the eighth to break a 9-9 tie and the Giants answered with just one in the ninth (a Barry Bonds homer).
|
| 7:54 |
: I was informed on Reddit that this avenges Game 7 of the 1996 NLCS (STL – 0, ATL – 15).
|
| 7:54 |
: Braves still up on goal differential.
|
| 7:55 |
: So they all happened in the world series, and they all happened pretty recently. Weird.
|
| 7:56 |
: But the Cardinals have the away goals. Or was the other game in StL?
|
| 7:56 |
: Braves were at home for both.
|
| 7:57 |
: Brebbia and his beard on in the eighth. Guessing it will be Helsley in the ninth, but outside shot at Brebbia going two or Martinez coming in.
|
| 7:57 |
: Now watch it be Miller.
|
| 7:57 |
: So John Brebbia’s beard lives without shaving for another series. He shaves it at the end of the season, and not at the start of spring training, right?
|
| 7:57 |
: Maybe both.
|
| 7:57 |
: Hey, since the first inning, this has been a really solid game!
|
| 7:57 |
: a 3-1 Cardinals win.
|
| 8:00 |
: Well, but Atlanta has the top of the order up and Martinez has been rocky, so don’t speak too soon.
|
| 8:00 |
: Maybe Mike Schildt has goldfish memory and he just forgot the first inning. Maybe that’s why he kept Flaherty in so long.
|
| 8:01 |
: He thought the Cardinals only scored 1 in the first inning because he didn’t see the zero.
|
| 8:02 |
: I really thought that was gone off the bat for Freeman. Ball just didn’t carry on that did it?
|
| 8:02 |
: ball isn’t juiced in playoffs conspiracy. Usually easy to hit out to right in Atlanta, too.
|
| 8:03 |
: If the nationals win and Astros lose, are they the new WS favorite given easier NL path?
|
| 8:04 |
: Ask Dan, but Yankees probably?
|
| 8:04 |
: The weather is also cooler in October so
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| 8:04 |
: That could contribute to the ball dying in the outfield like it did this spring
|
| 8:04 |
: Think Snitker will be 2nd guessed for not starting Tomlin?
|
| 8:04 |
: Stats don’t lie. Tomlin has pitched great if you don’t consider context at all.
|
| 8:04 |
: The Cardinals might have been actually hitting to the score.
|
| 8:05 |
: Or, I’ll try to put it a little more diplomatically and say that Helsley might not be in the game to try and keep controversy to a minimum and to try and not rile up some frustrated fans. Not implying that it’s his fault in any way, mind.
|
| 8:05 |
: I don’t think Shildt is very concerned with the Braves fans. If he felt like it were important to Helsley.
|
| 8:05 |
: Only 90.3 mph on the exit velo.
|
| 8:05 |
: guess it wasn’t hit that hard.
|
| 8:06 |
: Why is Paul DeJong taking a first pitch strike down the middle?
|
| 8:07 |
: Remember when Paul DeJong got some early MVP buzz three weeks into the season?
|
| 8:07 |
: Yes. I wrote about it. A HBP might have slowed him down some, but I also think hunting fastballs might have played a role.
|
| 8:07 |
: Earlier a friend and I were hoping to see a position player pitch in this game for ATL. Not going to happen. We wondered if it had ever happened in postseason play… seems unlikely.
|
| 8:07 |
: Not sure.
|
| 8:08 |
: Remember when Jack Flaherty wasn’t good for the first part of the season?
|
| 8:08 |
: I also remember that.
|
| 8:08 |
: Cliff Pennington pitched for the Jays a few years back in the postseason!
|
| 8:08 |
: ah yes.
|
| 8:09 |
: Who’s the best bet on the guy the Cardinals invent for next season?
|
| 8:11 |
: Assuming we aren’t talking about Dylan Carlson, they don’t have a ton of candidates who haven’t made the majors, yet. Arozarena, Lane Thomas, Sosa, etc.
|
| 8:12 |
: Hire Joe Morgan, does Nolan Gorman count?
|
| 8:12 |
: He’s still a ways away.
|
| 8:12 |
: Austin Romine pitched for the Yankees vs Boston last year right?
|
| 8:13 |
: And it is Genesis Cabrera to end the game. The Cardinals are going in reverse order.
|
| 8:14 |
: Tommy Pham trade is still feeling very lopsided
|
| 8:14 |
: It still is.
|
| 8:14 |
: Genesis Cabrera should’ve been pitching in the third inning.
|
| 8:14 |
: That’s a good point.
|
| 8:14 |
: Romine gave up the homer part of Brock Holt’s cycle, yes.
|
| 8:15 |
: Tommy Pham deal completely ruined my expectations for what trades to consolidate your 40-man look like.
|
| 8:15 |
: We need a rally to take us through first pitch in the second game. Otherwise, there’ll be a gap.
|
| 8:15 |
: Is that really what we want?
|
| 8:15 |
: Let alone, need?
|
| 8:15 |
: We do not
|
| 8:17 |
: The Braves are seriously not letting Brian McCann hit? Come on.
|
| 8:17 |
: Let everybody play.
|
| 8:17 |
: Seems like a jerk move not to let McCann get a final PA in front of this home crowd. Had a great Braves career.
|
| 8:18 |
: Fair, but I think it is more important to get Flowers an AB, maybe?
|
| 8:18 |
: If the next 10 Braves reach, they can get the tying run to the plate.
|
| 8:19 |
: .32^10. Odds not good.
|
| 8:19 |
: I was actually looking forward to a potential McCann ovation
|
| 8:19 |
: i guess I’ll defer to you guys then.
|
| 8:19 |
: And there it is.
|
| 8:20 |
: The game is over and the Cardinals are the first team to advance to the NLCS.
|
| 8:20 |
: Cardinals move on and prepare to fly to Los Angeles?
|
| 8:21 |
: They are staying in Atlanta tonight. They don’t know if they are flying home or to LA just yet.
|
| 8:22 |
: Who pitches in relief for Strausberg tonight?
|
| 8:22 |
: Sanchez, Corbin, Doolittle and Hudson.
|
| 8:23 |
: Flaherty, when asked about the next opponent. Gestures toward his celebrating teammates and says, “I’m not gonna watch that game. We’ll figure that out later.”
|
| 8:23 |
: Scherzer is theoretically available for an inning as well
|
| 8:23 |
: Or Strasburg May just go until his arm falls off. If this isn’t what they’ve been saving him for then I give up
|
| 8:24 |
: FINAL in Atlanta: StL 13 – 1 ATL. Thanks Kiley and Craig for chatting!
|
| 8:25 |
: Thanks to all of you who stuck with it. Dan and Nick will be shortly to discuss the next game which should provide more excitement, I hope.
|
| 8:26 |
: How big an underdog will StL be to either of the other teams? Especially with Flaherty potentially only starting 1 game unless the series goes 7.
|
| 8:26 |
 Dan Szymborski: And Craig’s prophecy has been fulfilled.
|
| 8:26 |
: They were at 48% to win today and 16% to advance to the World Series so somewhere around 33-40%
|
| 8:27 |
Dan Szymborski: Probably good that I didn’t chat this game as Craig would probably be exhausted with my Shildt-Flaherty frustration.
|
| 8:27 |
: Dan is probably in a better position to answer that and many questions, so I’m bowing out.
|
| 8:29 |
Dan Szymborski: I believe that ZiPS will have the Cards as an underdog against either team, but I don’t want to give any grand pronouncements until after the game, when I write up my preview while running the projections!
|
| 8:30 |
: Most anticlimactic post season advance I’ve ever seen
|
| 8:30 |
 Nick Dika: Fingers crossed this one isn’t as much of a laugher as ATL/STL.
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| 8:31 |
Nick Dika: But also fingers crossed there’s as many bat tosses into right field.
|
| 8:32 |
Dan Szymborski: Hi Nick!
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| 8:32 |
Nick Dika: Hey Dan!
|
| 8:33 |
: Dan, I am planning on having pizza for dinner. What type of sandwich is that?
|
| 8:33 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s begun.
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| 8:33 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s not. I think there was something in a Bad Lip Reading about using a pizza as a sandwich
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| 8:35 |
Dan Szymborski: Found it!
|
| 8:35 |
Dan Szymborski:
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| 8:36 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s sad that I have encyclopedic knowledge of things like this.
|
| 8:36 |
: Hey wait a second there’s a fantasy writer in my real baseball chat! This is a place for MS paint images, what is and is not a sandwich, and discussion on the best beans to use in chili recipes.
|
| 8:36 |
Nick Dika: Those are all things fantasy writers have MORE time for.
|
| 8:36 |
Dan Szymborski: Nick, I think you’re replying in line to the questions, not in the chat
|
| 8:36 |
: If you cut off all the edges of a calzone, is it a sandwich?
|
| 8:36 |
Dan Szymborski: No stop it!
|
| 8:36 |
: How did you feel about that first game Dan?
|
| 8:37 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s probably the most annoyed I’ve been at the winning manager in an elimination game with a double-digit lead
|
| 8:37 |
: Dan are you a Chiefs fan
|
| 8:37 |
Dan Szymborski: No, but I made and Andy Reid/Taft avatar for some reason that I don’t remember.
|
| 8:37 |
: Why the bleep did Flaherty go so long today?
|
| 8:38 |
Nick Dika: I’m assuming they weren’t going to take him off regular rest however long he went?
|
| 8:38 |
: This broadcast is really in love with its pitch overlays, huh.
|
| 8:38 |
Nick Dika: If you’re curious @joshuahowsam on twitter has a lot of interesting insights about why overlays can be a bit misleading.
|
| 8:38 |
: Waking up from that snoozer…to find out Ernie Effin Johnson’s doing play by play for the nightcap. Gettin me a Red Bull and hitting the mute button.
|
| 8:38 |
: Acuna got on base 12 times in the series and had 1 run, which came on a home run, yet Jon Heyman calls him out on twitter for getting a single in game 1 thirty minutes ago and doesn’t mention the failures of all the vets. I can’t imagine why.
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| 8:38 |
Dan Szymborski: Jon’s a good reporter but he’s miscast when playing an analyst.
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| 8:38 |
: I shared this last night but did you know that Clayton Kershaw, the hitter, has a higher career playoff OBP than Cody Bellinger?
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| 8:38 |
Dan Szymborski: Sooner or later it shall
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| 8:39 |
Dan Szymborski: Warning, I may be violently ill at some point during this game as I’ve eaten an obscene amount of crab chips that came in the mail today.
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| 8:39 |
: 538 has the Cards with a 35% chance of advancing FYI
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| 8:39 |
Dan Szymborski: I think ZiPS will have it closer than that.
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| 8:39 |
: No, this time Ernie Johnson’s got a pink bowtie this time, he’ll be 5% less bland.
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| 8:39 |
: Dear Dan,
I have been saving all my most important questions for you. Number one: is temperature part of the structure of a sandwich? So for a structural purist, does a grilled cheese sandwich need to be hot to be a sandwich? Does it cease to be a sandwich at room temperature? Thank you, kindly. |
| 8:40 |
Dan Szymborski: I think no. I think temperature’s only an issue if it changes the fundamental architecture of the sandwich.
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| 8:40 |
: Fun random stat blast from 2018: Dee Gordon (588 PA) had 8 3B, 9 BB, 10 GIDP, 12 CS. Just though everyone should know that.
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| 8:40 |
Dan Szymborski: BUT WHAT DID HE HAVE 11 OF
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| 8:40 |
: a grilled cheese must be hot at some point to become grilled, but subsequent temperature is irrelevant
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| 8:41 |
Dan Szymborski: Yeah, but that’s for the construction of the grilled cheese, not for the construction of the sandwich. A non-hot grilled cheese is still a sandwich, it’s just a cheese sandwich.
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| 8:41 |
: Dan how much of Prices salary do you think the RedSox would have to eat to move him?
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| 8:41 |
Dan Szymborski: Wild guess or actual projection where I have to open up ZiPS and stuff?
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| 8:42 |
: And is Price’s salary a sandwich?
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| 8:42 |
Dan Szymborski: So at least this won’t start out 10-0
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| 8:42 |
: huh. somehow “grilled cheese sandwich” sounds amazing while “cheese sandwich” sounds vaguely terrible?
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| 8:42 |
Nick Dika: Cheese sandwich is what happens when you run out of groceries.
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| 8:43 |
: The cheese texture is very different when melty.
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| 8:43 |
Nick Dika: I like how they call them “toasties” in Europe.
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| 8:43 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s kind of a better description.
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| 8:43 |
Dan Szymborski: My office really smells of Old Bay now.
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| 8:43 |
: Dan, do you think Girardi has a decent chance to land the Cubs job? Seems like they might give the edge to one of the internal candidates (Ross, Loretta, etc.) but I know Joe interviewed with them today.
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| 8:43 |
: What level of prospect would the Padres have to attach to Myers to move him without eating more than 25% or so of his salary? Seems like a decent fit for the Tigers if they get a good enough sweetener
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| 8:44 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t. I think internal is the favorite.
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| 8:44 |
Nick Dika: With the Tigers rebuilding, what’s the incentive for them to take on a player like Myers? Do you think he’d be part of the next good Tigers team?
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| 8:44 |
Dan Szymborski: I can see Epstein-Girardi having similar issues as Cashman-Girardi.
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| 8:44 |
: It could start out 0-10, Dan
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| 8:45 |
: Nick I think the comment was more the Tigers pulling a basketball move and taking on Myers’ contract for a prospect to go along with it. Might be reading it wrong though.
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| 8:45 |
Dan Szymborski: It COULD but at least we get a second half-inning that starts off at 0-0.
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| 8:45 |
Nick Dika: Oh, gotcha.
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| 8:45 |
Dan Szymborski: I think the Padres would want to spend money so they get a prospect, not send a prospect to save money.
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| 8:45 |
: RE Myers/Tigers: I can see him being a part of the next good team considering he’s not that old and you get bonus prospect capital for just cash and the rights to kick the tires on a guy with pedigree
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| 8:46 |
Dan Szymborski: I can’t see him being a *good* part of the next good team. I don’t think he’s even good now.
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| 8:46 |
Dan Szymborski: Ah, that’s what Soto’s getting at.
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| 8:47 |
Dan Szymborski: My first inclination was that he was whipsering “Hey, slip it back in here before someone sees” to the other side
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| 8:47 |
: The main savings for the Padres being cost, OF AB’s and a roster spot
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| 8:47 |
Dan Szymborski: TRAPPED IN A DOOR
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| 8:47 |
Dan Szymborski: I did that to a cat the other day
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| 8:47 |
: That was not a home run swing.
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| 8:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Haha like that matters in 2019
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| 8:47 |
: How can you not be romantic about baseball?
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| 8:47 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m not a romantic
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| 8:47 |
: Is anyone else amazed that they still include postseason batting averages when they show the lineups?
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| 8:48 |
: How bad did the Hosmer contract mess up the Padres competitive window, or am I overrating how big an effect an albatross contract has, especially with the Padres’ young talent?
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| 8:48 |
Nick Dika: This is my biggest annoyance
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| 8:48 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t think it has *that* big of an effect. I think they know it’s crap. We’ll see how they treat it though.
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| 8:48 |
: never seen that ground rule double before.
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| 8:48 |
Nick Dika: It definitely seemed unnecessary to sign him. Even at the time.
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| 8:48 |
Dan Szymborski: First for me.
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| 8:48 |
: If this was Finnish baseball, we’d get to see Soto opening the fence to get the ball, cause EVERYTHING is in play in Finnish baseball.
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| 8:49 |
: Why are we talking about the Padres right now? Am I in the wrong chat?
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| 8:49 |
Nick Dika: We’re all surfers.
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| 8:49 |
Dan Szymborski: Just be happy we’ve transitioned off sandwiches.
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| 8:49 |
Dan Szymborski: The Dodgers were swinging at those last Strasburg start.
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| 8:49 |
: I want Finnish-rules baseball!
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| 8:50 |
: Peisapallo is the word
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| 8:50 |
Dan Szymborski: You know what the call “Adam Eaton has no chance” reminds me of?
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| 8:51 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 8:51 |
: MAX POWER
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| 8:52 |
: Never transition from sandwiches!!!!!!!
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| 8:52 |
Nick Dika: I expect this from Big Sexy.
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| 8:52 |
Dan Szymborski: He’s the man whose name you’d love to touch. But you mustn’t touch!
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| 8:52 |
: @Shirtless Bartolo Colon you’re releasing a memoir!
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| 8:52 |
: “All your base are belong to us” is actually a mistranslation of “home run.”
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| 8:52 |
: I used to think I was a hopeless romantic. Turns out I’m just hopeless.
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| 8:52 |
: Who are the most likely extension candidates this offseason among players currently team control?
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| 8:53 |
Dan Szymborski: I still think there’s a chance the Nats give Rendon a winning bid before he gets to FA
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| 8:53 |
: Realmuto extension
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| 8:53 |
: If Soto doesn’t like Pederson’s double being called a home run, he can go get it out of the door.
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| 8:53 |
Dan Szymborski: Turned out to be a moot point anyway!
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| 8:54 |
: Who are the best candidates for the Astros to acquire from Pittsburgh and turn into a Cy Young candidate?
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| 8:54 |
Dan Szymborski: Mitch Keller
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| 8:54 |
Dan Szymborski: or is he the one the Rays take?
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| 8:55 |
Dan Szymborski: I guess given the Morton path, the Astros get Trevor WIlliams and he suddenly starts throwing 97.
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| 8:55 |
: If the Astros were to nab Archer and turn him into a CY worthy pitcher PNC Park might just burn down
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| 8:55 |
: Mlbtr published their arbitration predictions today. Cody Bellinger is a super 2 going into his first arb and they have him at 11.8m. He could break the Betts record by his 4th trip.
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| 8:55 |
: Chad Kuhl?
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| 8:55 |
: Joe Musgrove
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| 8:55 |
: Does Buck Showalter get another managerial gig?
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| 8:55 |
Dan Szymborski: No. I think he gets an advisory job somewhere.
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| 8:55 |
: That Cards Braves game was so bad it made Brian McCann retire
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| 8:56 |
: Dan, is a hot pocket a burrito?
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| 8:56 |
Dan Szymborski: Yes
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| 8:56 |
: I have a life goal, that if I succeed will make me smile until my dying day. That goal is to get Bartolo Colon to sign a sandwich for me and then proceed to eat it. Obviously, pictures will happen before the eating
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| 8:57 |
Dan Szymborski: You know it’s serious when the whole 40-man roster goes to the mound
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| 8:57 |
: Still got a shot at 10-0.
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| 8:58 |
: What would he sign it with? Ketchup?
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| 8:58 |
: am I the only one that remembers Colon’s second family and PED use
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| 8:58 |
Dan Szymborski: Bartolo’s love can’t be contained within a single family unit.
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| 8:58 |
: Is a signed sandwich still a sandwich or does it become a souvenir?
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| 8:59 |
: The sandwich remains a sandwich. The photograph is the souvenir.
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| 8:59 |
Dan Szymborski: Does Bartolo sign the photograph too?
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| 8:59 |
: TOOTBLAN
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| 8:59 |
: My wife always accuses me of remembering the one bad thing about every athlete and celebrity,
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| 8:59 |
: Dear Dan,
Where do you fall in terms of structural and ingredient purity for curry? Thank you, kindly. |
| 8:59 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m not a curry expert!
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| 8:59 |
: Best line about Colon: The best way to comeback from PED and being a deadbeat dad? Get really fat and keep playing
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| 9:00 |
: Does one have to be an expert to have an opinion?
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| 9:00 |
Nick Dika: It really was an odd path to redemtion
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| 9:00 |
Dan Szymborski: No, but I can’t trick you guys into thinking I know what I’m talking about if I talk about *too* many things.
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| 9:00 |
: Gut feeling, what happens to Kapler? Think Callaway’s firing plays a role in what the Phillies do? Bizarre that they’re still holding off on making this decision.
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| 9:00 |
Dan Szymborski: I think if they were going to fire him, they already would have.
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| 9:01 |
Nick Dika: The Phils seem to be in general, a little more together than the Ny Mets squadron
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| 9:01 |
: That the Mets and Phillies fanbases just want to fire managers every 2 years baffles me. Gape kapler didn’t make their team 81-81.
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| 9:01 |
Nick Dika: He didn’t pitch for them either
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| 9:02 |
: Wasn’t Big Sexy already pretty fat before either of those things happened?
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| 9:02 |
Nick Dika: I don’t understand exercise science but I don’t get why he took PEDs
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| 9:02 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t know his whole bigamy timeline
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| 9:02 |
: What could Jamie Moyer have gotten away with if he got fat?
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| 9:02 |
Dan Szymborski: WHy didn’t Ernie Johnson realize that it was a catch? Just where did he think the ball went?
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| 9:03 |
: We are very not actually discussing the game
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| 9:03 |
: Did Kiké make a really great or really poor play?
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| 9:03 |
: Back into the wall, clearly.
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| 9:03 |
Dan Szymborski: The Astros should replace the departed Tal’s Hill with the Peanuts kite-eating tree.
|
| 9:03 |
Dan Szymborski: but, like, eats baseball because there aren’t a lot of kite-related plays in the average baseball game
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| 9:04 |
: Who’s the next decent Marlin to be given away for free by Jeter? I think he may be out of them by now but Caleb Smith looks like he has value that Jeter can fail to recoup in a trade
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| 9:04 |
Nick Dika: Imagine this Marlins’ rotation with Stanton/Ozuna/Yelich/Realmuto in the lineup
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| 9:05 |
Dan Szymborski: Paddack + Castillo!
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| 9:05 |
Dan Szymborski: Oh wait, if the Marlins get Castillo back, they also dont’ get to keep the Dan Straily Hot Years.
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| 9:05 |
: Ernie had to check w/ the Chinese COmmunist Party to see if it’s a catch
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| 9:06 |
: How much involvement does Jeter actually have in decisions?
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| 9:06 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 9:06 |
: Do you mean Luis Castillo or Luis Castillo?
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| 9:06 |
Dan Szymborski: the really good one.
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| 9:06 |
Nick Dika: He’s replacing the CF statue with a Re2spect statue
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| 9:07 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s an insult to only retire Jeter’s number. In honor of Jeter, I feel the Yankees should have retired the concept of numbers.
|
| 9:07 |
: Which, saying that, we talk about “look at where the Marlins outfield is now” what are we going to be saying about the Angels in five years?
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| 9:07 |
Dan Szymborski: “Can you believe it’s been nine years and the Angels still can’t figure out how to build a 71 win team plus Trout and get to .500?”
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| 9:07 |
: Wait. Home run derbies are pants-optional now!?
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| 9:07 |
Dan Szymborski: It is true.
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| 9:07 |
: Dear Dan,
What is the appropriate way to make a delicious bean stew? Thank you, kindly. |
| 9:07 |
Dan Szymborski: The chili ingredients, but then add beans
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| 9:08 |
: I think we should’ve retired the gift basket alongside Jeter’s number.
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| 9:08 |
: Muncy’s homer had an xBA of .370, LA 36 and EV 100.8
Pederson’s double had an xBA of .740, LA 27 and EV 101.5 Soto’s lineout had an xBA of .740 LA 21 and EV 103.9 Baseball |
| 9:08 |
: Can you have a delicious vegetarian bean stew?
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| 9:08 |
Nick Dika: Yes- but it needs more cheese than a regular one.
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| 9:08 |
Dan Szymborski: I’d prefer no, but it’s a free country unless you’re in Blizzard’s cafeteria.
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| 9:08 |
: Lee: That was a horrible play bu Hernandez. Very lucky to recover
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| 9:09 |
: Marlins Man should be the owner of that team.
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| 9:09 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t want Marlins Man to get to be a millionaire
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| 9:09 |
: I didn’t follow the nats that closely but my impression was that Zimmerman was basically toast. It appears that was not quite true
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| 9:09 |
Dan Szymborski: Zimmerman’s not toast, but you can feel the crustiness on the white part of the bread.
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| 9:09 |
: And the point of what I was saying is that the Marlins’ 2014-2017 teams were just that; a team that couldn’t figure out how to break .500 despite having some great players. They had no depth and a bad team, and wasted their money on Wei-Yin Chen. They were the current Angels; they were never going to make the playoffs.
|
| 9:10 |
: So does an ice-cream sandwich at room temperature become a soup with croutons?
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| 9:10 |
Dan Szymborski: Yes, a dessert soup.
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| 9:10 |
: In his pregame, Dave Roberts explained stetting Hernandez vs a righty by talking about buehlers flyball tendencies and the importance of outfield defense
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| 9:10 |
Dan Szymborski: I need to go pull up Strasburg curve swung at stats this game
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| 9:10 |
Dan Szymborski: NO CONGRATULATIONS TO SHILDT ERNIE
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| 9:11 |
Nick Dika: Also important: Hernandez mashing taters.
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| 9:11 |
Dan Szymborski: I like how Ernie waits to see if Taylor caught that ball. If Taylor caught that ball, he’d have looked a lot happier.
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| 9:11 |
: Enrique Hernandez in play, run(s).
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| 9:11 |
: Is the ball just really carrying tonight?
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| 9:11 |
Dan Szymborski: The ball’s really carrying this year and the last one
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| 9:12 |
: That was better Kiké, then!
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| 9:12 |
: Postseason hero kike Hernandez, I always say
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| 9:12 |
Dan Szymborski: I like how Kiké is the player that gets everyone to remember hwo to make make é real quickly
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| 9:12 |
Nick Dika: More or less likely than postseason (2019) hero Russell Martin?
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| 9:12 |
Dan Szymborski: alt-0233
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| 9:12 |
: It always happens. A player makes an awkward diving catch, is the first batter in the next inning, and then hits a homer. And Ernie Johnson doesn’t know what happened on either play.
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| 9:12 |
: us french class takers already knew
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| 9:13 |
Dan Szymborski: I do too because of MP3 tagging a large music collection that has a lot of classical music.
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| 9:13 |
: Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Brian McCann has announced his retirement
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| 9:14 |
Dan Szymborski: If baseball gets a Czech player, I’m prepared like a boss.
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| 9:14 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 9:14 |
: Yes but will the ball carry next year? Asking for a friend.
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| 9:14 |
Dan Szymborski: NO idea wha thtey’ll do with the ball this offseason
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| 9:14 |
Nick Dika: They have Max Kepler, they’re slowly making their way east.
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| 9:14 |
: Strasburg’s body language is so different when he’s behind….he always looks like he’s been kicked and he’s sullen about it when he’s behind.
|
| 9:14 |
: Have we seen the last of CC on the mound?
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| 9:14 |
Dan Szymborski: I think so
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| 9:15 |
: also his name doesn’t have the accent mark iirc, broadcasts just add that for obvious reasons
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| 9:15 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s a word you try to avoid
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| 9:15 |
Dan Szymborski: Sean Forman actually changed Kevin Youkilis’s baseball-reference ID as a result
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| 9:15 |
: Would you bring Hicks back to the NYY lineup?
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| 9:17 |
Nick Dika: I don’t trust Urshela. I get the batted ball data backs up his breakout, but I still see it as unsustainable
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| 9:15 |
: I thought that was a joke the first time around. Now it’s a little sad they didn’t let him bat in the ninth.
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| 9:16 |
: Dan have you ever shown your mother one of your chats?
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| 9:16 |
Dan Szymborski: No, but I assure you my family is just as strange as I am.
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| 9:16 |
: If McCann does retire, where do you stand on him for the Hall of Fame?
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| 9:16 |
Dan Szymborski: Nopers.
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| 9:17 |
: Has Brian McCann named a successor to be the no fun policeman
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| 9:17 |
Dan Szymborski: Brad Keller?
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| 9:17 |
: What did I tell you about nopers?0
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| 9:17 |
: Freedom for Hong Kong!
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| 9:17 |
: What’s your mother’s view on sandwich structure and ingredients? Did you inherit your position?
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| 9:17 |
Dan Szymborski: I have not asked my mom
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| 9:17 |
: Getting the accent mark on a phone is hard, but kike chose to use the accent mark even though it doesn’t exist in actual Spanish
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| 9:18 |
: On the topic of HOF catchers, how is Munson not in yet? Even with 60% of a career he has impressive numbers. As good as Yadi’s whole career and he has an MVP
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| 9:18 |
: Clint Hurdle is gone, Brian McCann is gone, they’re dying out.
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| 9:19 |
Nick Dika: Now its one fun player (Carlos Martinez) getting mad at another (Big Ron)
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| 9:18 |
Dan Szymborski: I think the fact that he was already in steep decline and was perceived to be as such hurt him.
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| 9:19 |
Dan Szymborski: And once he didn’t get in from the tragedy (it’s not like they used WAR when they voted), his traditional numbers aren’t htat impressive
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| 9:19 |
: Say Buehler makes it through the order twice on 65 pitches and has given up no runs; do you let him go through the order a third time, or turn to Maeda/Kershaw?
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| 9:19 |
: Hernandez is one of the more socially aware, activist players in MLB. You should check out some of his stuff about toxic maxulinity
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| 9:20 |
Dan Szymborski: Depends how much he’s cruising.
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| 9:20 |
: It’s insane to me that Chris Archer was seen as the new wave of fun guys in baseball when he did that broadcasting spot and in general; FFWD a few years and he’s a villain and the next Hurdle guy. I think it says something, not quite sure what though.
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| 9:20 |
: Wait…Archer is a villain?
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| 9:21 |
Nick Dika: He took issue with some celebrating earlier this year.
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| 9:20 |
Dan Szymborski: A 3 run lead ain’t a 1 run lead. I don’t think they need to do a panic pull of Buehler
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| 9:21 |
Dan Szymborski: I HAVE A RELEVANT GRAPHIC
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| 9:22 |
: With MLB now legitimizing sports gambling, is it time for Rose to be welcomed back? I get that he’s an ass but it’s time. The Hall is clearly missing that plaque
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| 9:22 |
Nick Dika: I think he has some other personal issues that might (understandably) not be looked favorably upon
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| 9:22 |
Dan Szymborski: Never mind, it was Edwin Diaz I have smashing Nicholas Castellanos into the limo, not Archer.
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| 9:22 |
: Every straight female Dodger fan is in love with Kiké. I am a straight male and am also in love with Kiké.
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| 9:22 |
Dan Szymborski: I think Buehler should have stirrups.
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| 9:22 |
: Dan, when don’t you have a relevant graphic?
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| 9:22 |
: Archer was the guy who was tossing at Dietrich earlier in the year and whining about the celebrating by the Reds.
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| 9:23 |
Nick Dika: The Reds gotta celebrate something. Take it easy on them.
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| 9:23 |
:
Kiké Hernandez & his fiancée Mariana’s engagement photos are the best things you’ll see all day.
(📸: Bree Marie Photography/Kiké’s IG) |
| 9:24 |
Dan Szymborski: Nope, while I created Archer in WWE2K, I don’t have a GIF. The only Archer related media I can find is my sister and her husband as Pam and Cyril froM Archer for Halloween.
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| 9:24 |
Dan Szymborski: And this:
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| 9:24 |
Nick Dika: Is Stras gonna work a walk?
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| 9:24 |
Dan Szymborski: And like that, it’s the wrong Archer
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| 9:24 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 9:25 |
: Stirrups should only be allowed if they’re real IMO. No fake single socks
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| 9:25 |
Dan Szymborski: Absolutely
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| 9:25 |
: If the Nats had been up 3-0, would Kershaw have been in right now already?
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| 9:25 |
Dan Szymborski: No
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| 9:26 |
Dan Szymborski: Pitchers are the best rally hitters because they don’t end rallies by hitting worthless home runs.
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| 9:26 |
Dan Szymborski: Well, that often.
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| 9:26 |
Nick Dika: They know that doubles are better.
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| 9:27 |
Dan Szymborski: Am I going deaf or was there a Darryl chant?
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| 9:27 |
Nick Dika: I am very deaf and cannot confirm
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| 9:27 |
Dan Szymborski: What say you chat?
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| 9:27 |
: Is it really necessary to use Michael Taylor’s middle initial? Who does he think he is Michael J Fox or something?
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| 9:28 |
Nick Dika: Maybe because he has two first names he’s trying to let us know which is his first name?
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| 9:28 |
Dan Szymborski: Will Smith’s stop really was sweet there
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| 9:28 |
Dan Szymborski: There was another Michael Taylor at the same time
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| 9:28 |
Dan Szymborski: Prospect for Phillies
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| 9:28 |
Nick Dika: And he said “why should I change? He’s the one who sucks.”
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| 9:29 |
Dan Szymborski: ORiginal was still playing, those he was extra crispy at the time
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| 9:29 |
Dan Szymborski: I like to think that Adam Eaton was screaming latin at Buehler
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| 9:30 |
: Donald Z Greinke has a ring to it, for example.
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| 9:30 |
: Something Michael J. Fox and Michael A. Taylor have in common is that both of their middle names begin with the letter A. I am not lying.
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| 9:30 |
Nick Dika: Manuel A. Ramirez
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| 9:30 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m still annoyed about David Jonathan “J.D.” Drew.
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| 9:30 |
: Cody J. Bellinger
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| 9:31 |
: But what about the Will Smiths why no initial
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| 9:31 |
Dan Szymborski: Very different positions and movie careers.
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| 9:31 |
: Or J.A. “Jay” Happ. That’s not how this works.
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| 9:31 |
Nick Dika: Like Homer “Jay” Simpson
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| 9:31 |
: Solid throw Seager. Shortstops are underappreciated sometimes.
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| 9:32 |
Nick Dika: I’m convinced he’s going to go off offensively soon. People forget he’s only 25. Changed his launch angle, hitting more fly balls than ever this year.
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| 9:32 |
Dan Szymborski: I always used Chris B. Young and Chris R. Young, but most people just used Chris Young
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| 9:33 |
: Happ actually doesn’t use any periods between J and A which makes it…more weird somehow?
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| 9:33 |
Dan Szymborski: B. was the black guy who was a really good centerfielder. R. was the white pitcher who threw 75 MPH fastballs and looked like a wendigo.
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| 9:33 |
: ahem. the plural is “Wills Smith”
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| 9:33 |
: THE CATCHER AND THE PITCHER DAN
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| 9:33 |
Dan Szymborski: AND THE DJ JAZZY JEFF ASSOCIATE
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| 9:33 |
Dan Szymborski: That’s why I started with positions
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| 9:34 |
: With Ryu and Hill likely gone, do the Dodgers look for outside rotation help or just hand the keys to May and Urias and let it ride?
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| 9:34 |
Nick Dika: Cole is from California I think if they wanna spenddddddd.
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| 9:34 |
Dan Szymborski: But you can’t talk about separating the Williams Smith without the most famous one.
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| 9:34 |
Dan Szymborski: Maybe they can be Will Smith, will.i.c, and will.i.p.
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| 9:34 |
: How could BJ Upton not use Bossman?
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| 9:34 |
: Would you rather have Seager or Correa long term? Youth and potential for both, but also injury issues…
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| 9:35 |
Nick Dika: I’d default to Seager for the defense.
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| 9:34 |
: Seager had a couple pretty good stretches but when he isn’t getting results, his approach at the plate regresses back to swing at the first strike. In 2017 before the injury bug he was a 11% bb player.
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| 9:34 |
: Dodgers also have gonsolin for rotation but don’t be surprised if they resign Hill knowing he pitches like 10 regular season games but is a thing in October. He could still be a valuable 2 or 3 inning reliever
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| 9:35 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s going to be funny when PG&E shuts off the power to Dodger Stadium in the 7th.
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| 9:36 |
: Lol Dan
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| 9:36 |
Dan Szymborski: Wait, didn’t I made a Turner-Jansen tag team in WWE2K/
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| 9:36 |
: In the case of Turner…does he get a new jersey every game, or are the clubhouse launderers *that* good?
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| 9:36 |
: Is it starting to rain or is that smog?
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| 9:36 |
Nick Dika: It’s LA – it’s vape smoke
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| 9:36 |
: By the way, Will M Smith is the reliever and Will D Smith is the catcher, if you do feel like using initials
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| 9:37 |
: I think it’s smug.
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| 9:38 |
: I am more interested in sandwiches than initials.
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| 9:38 |
: Cody Bellinger pulls the shit out of everything but he’s gonna talk about his gap to gap hitting
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| 9:38 |
: Derek J. LeMahieu (a gift basket to whoever guesses what the J stands for)
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| 9:38 |
: Justin Turner (Overdrive) should walk up to “Taking Care of Business”
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| 9:38 |
Dan Szymborski: Johesephat
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| 9:38 |
: I don’t think I’ve ever seen a spray chart with 40% in a single…quintrindt?
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| 9:38 |
Dan Szymborski: That didn’t touch his chest ernie
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| 9:38 |
Nick Dika: Jordan?
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| 9:39 |
: I think if the dodgers spend they’re most likely to do so via extension, and failing that I think they’d pursue a right handed bat with contact skill again as they dreamed with Pollock. If they made a big dollar signing I think it’s rendon. Justin Turner only has a year left and transitioning him to first base could make sense. His glove is declining
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| 9:39 |
Dan Szymborski: See, if the ball hit his chest, it would actually change trajectory. It didn’t pass through his ribs, heart, and then burst out the back without any resistance.
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| 9:40 |
Dan Szymborski: I found the relevant media.
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| 9:40 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 9:40 |
: Dan what should the Nats do with howie kendrick and his defense?
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| 9:40 |
Nick Dika: What twosome from the Nats do you send out against Turner/Jansen?
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| 9:40 |
Dan Szymborski: Ever see Old Yeller?
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| 9:41 |
: May we do an NL MVP poll of this group?
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| 9:41 |
: Dan never ceases to amuse me
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| 9:41 |
Dan Szymborski: YOu’re an exception.
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| 9:42 |
: Last night, it was decided that we the chatters are the co-MVPs
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| 9:42 |
Dan Szymborski: WHo voted on that?
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| 9:42 |
Dan Szymborski: The real chat is the friends you lose along the way.
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| 9:42 |
: Meg.
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| 9:42 |
: Dan *almost* never ceases to amuse me
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| 9:42 |
: My knees ache just watching the Nats right side defense
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| 9:43 |
: Dan never ceases to amuse me, either, but that’s because “ceasing” an action implies that one had started doing the action in the first place.
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| 9:43 |
: Stras has kinda an Abe Lincoln-ey look to him, doesn’t he?
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| 9:44 |
Nick Dika: It’s the lack of mustache.
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| 9:43 |
: Bellinger’s wRC+ by month 248, 155, 141, 142, 130, 127. How much does he drop in everyone’s MVP standings if the 248 is in June?
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| 9:43 |
Dan Szymborski: Not mine! Can’t say about writers.
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| 9:43 |
: Nick, what’s it like being the adult in the room?
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| 9:43 |
: The Angels can finish 4th with or without chatters.
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| 9:43 |
: Steve Ontiveros or Steve R. Ontiveros?
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| 9:43 |
Dan Szymborski: Thankfully, they both weren’t good enough that we had to tell the Jeff d’Amicii apart.
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| 9:43 |
Nick Dika: I’ve consumed an amount of pizza since we started that no real “adult” could ever consider reasonable
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| 9:44 |
: Howie Kendrick’s baserunning thinks Howie Kendrick’s defense isn’t bad.
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| 9:44 |
: Are teams like Boston and Houston serious about being under the CBT next year, or is that mostly posturing? It would seem like both would have to make a significant deal(s) to really get under, and obviously not add any even mid tier FAs. (apologies in advance for the baseball talk)
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| 9:44 |
Dan Szymborski: I think it’s more posturing by Houston than Boston
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| 9:46 |
Dan Szymborski: I never actually used this feature before.
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| 9:44 |
: Given Joe Morgan’s middle name is Leonard and the danger of “Joe L.” being contracted to “Joel” Morgan, I would like the chat to know I will be reverting to my prior handle.
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| 9:45 |
: I’ll never forget when Elvis Andrus went full Abe Lincoln a few years ago
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| 9:45 |
Dan Szymborski: This is going to be a 4 hour game
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| 9:46 |
Nick Dika: It’s looking that way. Especially with pitchers working walks.
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| 9:45 |
: Random thought: Brent Suter throws in the mid-80s
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| 9:47 |
: Boston wanting to reset their tax is understandable, the repeater penalties when you’re at the 2nd or 3rd thresholds are steep
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| 9:47 |
: Did you reply to your own reply Dan?
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| 9:47 |
Dan Szymborski: IT was a test.
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| 9:47 |
: Well you should use the feature more often Dan. In fact, your entire next chat should just be those replies.
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| 9:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Maybe I should.
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| 9:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Oh, you can’t reply to a reply. I was going to try make one long reply ziggurat
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| 9:47 |
: Dodgers work a lot of deep counts when they’re playing their game
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| 9:48 |
Nick Dika: It’s somehow less annoying than when the Yankees do it IMO
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| 9:48 |
: Abe Lincoln didn’t do so well on his first day as president that he seemed like a relative disappointment from then on. And he didn’t get shut down for the Civil War.
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| 9:48 |
: The reply feature showing that you are replying us pretty cool
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| 9:48 |
: Just found out that Dak’s first name is Rayne so name change was necessary. Dan what’s you’re opinion of using a first initial if you go by your middle name?
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| 9:48 |
Dan Szymborski: It depends on the syllables. Certain combinations aren’t sufficiently mellifluous.
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| 9:48 |
Dan Szymborski: Like D. John Szymborski sounds weird
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| 9:49 |
: the reply feature messes up the auto scroll for me
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| 9:49 |
: Is there a way for us non-employees to reply to stuffs?
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| 9:49 |
: Wait…working counts is annoying?
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| 9:49 |
Nick Dika: When you’re a Blue Jays fan and prefer games to not be five hours long it can be. Good baseball process. Still annoying.
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| 9:49 |
Dan Szymborski: START YOUR OWN FANGRAPHS AND THEN HAVE CHATS
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| 9:49 |
: But DJ Szymborski? Well, that’s an idea.
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| 9:49 |
Dan Szymborski: I have a DJ Szymborski email I use for spam
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| 9:49 |
Dan Szymborski: I would pronounced it as Dee-Jay. I wouldn’t be Didge Szymborski like JA Happ.
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| 9:49 |
: Dan, is a cheeze-it stuffed crust pizza an abomination?
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| 9:49 |
Dan Szymborski: Yes
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| 9:50 |
: D. John sounds like mustard
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| 9:50 |
: My middle name is Scott so I always thought that if I ever wanted to do the initial middle name thing I could pull it off since f Scott Fitzgerald is so famous
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| 9:50 |
: ALRIGHT THEN WE’LL START OUR OWN FANGRAPHS WITH BLACKJACK
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| 9:50 |
Dan Szymborski: ACES ABOVE REPLACEMENT
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| 9:50 |
: The reply feature is mainly so Dan or Nick can set up a drinking bird to start “typing” a reply, thus making it appear that they are still at the computer even while stepping out to run errands, etc.
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| 9:50 |
: Grade this joke on a scale of 1-10, 10 = best and 1= awful
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| 9:50 |
Dan Szymborski: 1, I don’t know the punchline
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| 9:51 |
: Rate this joke on a scale of 1-10, 10 = best and 1 = worst
I have a mortal fear of escalators. Thankfully, I’ve been taking steps to avoid them. |
| 9:51 |
Dan Szymborski:
TS Lotus’s Joke
1 (16.4% | 11 votes)
2 (7.4% | 5 votes)
3 (10.4% | 7 votes)
4 (13.4% | 9 votes)
5 (10.4% | 7 votes)
6 (11.9% | 8 votes)
7 (11.9% | 8 votes)
8 (10.4% | 7 votes)
9 (2.9% | 2 votes)
10 (4.4% | 3 votes)
Total Votes: 67
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| 9:51 |
: “Good luck with that wacky spin rate business, weirdo!” (/facepalm)
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| 9:51 |
Nick Dika: Is this Mitch Hedburg?
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| 9:51 |
: How about someone starts a Fangraphs that actually talks about fans?
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| 9:51 |
: Is it just me or is the Dodger stadium organ really loud?
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| 9:51 |
Nick Dika: The Cardinals’ fans haven’t done that?
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| 9:51 |
Dan Szymborski: I like a good organ
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| 9:52 |
Dan Szymborski: dammit that can be open to intepretations
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| 9:52 |
: Are the nats the stars and scrubsiest team in MLB? Every time you get passed rendon and Soto in the lineup it feels like you’re good for a bit
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| 9:52 |
Dan Szymborski: The Rockies are made up of superstars and people the superstars beat up in elementary school
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| 9:52 |
: my favorite organ is the kidney
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| 9:52 |
: Mortal fears are the worst kind of fears.
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| 9:52 |
: Our organist is amazing
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| 9:52 |
Dan Szymborski: THERE’S A WHOLE BAND BASED ON CALLING FLIES
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| 9:53 |
: Skin is the largest organ in the body
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| 9:53 |
: Deiter Ruhle is fantastic
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| 9:53 |
: “Escalators are great because they can never break down. They just become stairs. There should be a sign. This escalator is now stairs. Sorry for the convenience.” – Mitch Hedberg
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| 9:53 |
Nick Dika: I think we forget just how good a (partial season) Howie Kendrick had. Suzuki wasn’t awful, either.
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| 9:53 |
: Dan how you would be as a stadium organist?
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| 9:53 |
Nick Dika: We didn’t talk about defense in our MVP convo
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| 9:54 |
: Man, Bellinger is one hell of a CF.
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| 9:54 |
Dan Szymborski: I would actually be pretty good. I’ve played classical piano since 5 and I have played a full church organ with pedalboard.
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| 9:54 |
Dan Szymborski: And I have a MIDI pedalboard for the digital piano.
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| 9:54 |
: What a catch by Bellinger
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| 9:54 |
Nick Dika: Do you remember when he wasn’t going to play 1B anymore because he didn’t want to risk injury
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| 9:54 |
Nick Dika: I never fully understood that logic.
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| 9:55 |
: Nick are you a Blue Jays fan?
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| 9:55 |
Nick Dika: I am!
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| 9:55 |
: no one would understand classical music references
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| 9:55 |
: Nick are you a fan of Vladito?
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| 9:56 |
Nick Dika: Absolutely! I know it wasn’t the rookie season we expected, but I’m still very optimistic. On the defensive side of things – people forget he didn’t even start playing third base until rookie ball, I believe.
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| 9:55 |
Nick Dika: I could maybe get like 30% of them.
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| 9:55 |
: Playing first base means risking injury with Manny Machado in the division.
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| 9:55 |
Dan Szymborski: Ouch.
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| 9:55 |
Nick Dika: Lol
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| 9:55 |
: Don’t the toilets flush backwards in Canada?
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| 9:55 |
Dan Szymborski: Canadians don’t poop.
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| 9:55 |
: Where do you stand on the Blue Jays front office? It’s a very divided fan base
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| 9:58 |
Nick Dika: I don’t think their as awful as their detractors have made them out to be, but I do think there’s a bit of reason for concern. It was frustrating seeing them handle the Ken Giles, EE and Josh Donaldson situations – they seem to do a lot of selling low on players. A lot of prospects have taken big steps forward though with them at the helm. Biggio and Danny Jansen are two that are playing right now.
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| 9:56 |
Dan Szymborski: I’d say meh-minus.
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| 9:56 |
: Nick, are you a Blue Jays fan who believes the Jays should go back to the blue and white they wore when they went to the World Series, or are you the bad sort of Blue Jays fan?
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| 10:00 |
Nick Dika: Hahahahaha, those were the best unis. Those and the powder blues from the George Bell era.
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| 9:56 |
: Don’t you mean “ay” minus, Dan?
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| 9:56 |
: Canadians do poop, it just comes in a bag.
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| 9:57 |
Dan Szymborski: Last time I was in Canada, to see an NHL game in TOronto, I won a bet with a friend. $50 to see who could get the most canadians to say “soar-ry” when gently bumping into them.
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| 9:57 |
: According to statcast there have been 5 barrels in this game. 3 of them are outs.
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| 9:57 |
Dan Szymborski: thanks for reminidng me, I had statcast open for something and I had forgotten
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| 9:58 |
: Dodger fan, are we the same person?
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| 9:58 |
: So MLBTR says the Twins are going to pursue “impact” pitching. What kind of contract would they have to offer Cole to get him to sign there instead of, say, NYY or HOU?
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| 9:58 |
Dan Szymborski: I think if the money’s right, anyone will go anywhere
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| 9:59 |
: The 1b injury thing was about a specific thing. Bellinger has a history of with his shoulder on diving infield plays directly to his side.
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| 10:01 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 10:01 |
Dan Szymborski: Strasburg first game on the left, this game on the right.
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| 10:01 |
: Nick I’m having a brain lapse…who’s that kid the Jays have in AA ball who has Syndegaard type heat but still real raw…Pearson?
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| 10:02 |
Nick Dika: That’s him!
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| 10:02 |
Nick Dika: Nate Pearson – he’ll probably be a top-10 prospect soon if he keeps it up.
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| 10:02 |
Dan Szymborski: Look at outside corner against righties in each game. Almost nothing horizontally right off the plate
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| 10:02 |
Dan Szymborski: compared to the first game. You can see how much easier it is to lay off these curves than in first game
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| 10:03 |
: Dan, what are we looking at? Aside from a couple fastballs up, the distribution looks awfully similar to me.
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| 10:03 |
: Outside off the plate to righties. Strasburg only working up-down right now. Easier to lay off when it’s one-plane, I think?
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| 10:03 |
: And right on cue…Wil Smith says “Hey Dan, hold my beer”
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| 10:04 |
: The version of that chart with balls, called and swinging strikes is probably even more revealing
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| 10:04 |
Dan Szymborski: I’ll go grab that too
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| 10:04 |
: Looks like the targets from the shooting range during Lethal Weapon (Glover on the left, Gibson on the right)
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| 10:04 |
: Big difference in the change up usage. Maybe because a less left-handed lineup with Hernandez?
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| 10:06 |
Nick Dika: There’s that lower-outside edge curveball to a righty again.
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| 10:06 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 10:06 |
: There’s an outside curveball, and it gets a helpless whiff; granted, against a pitcher.
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| 10:07 |
Dan Szymborski: Game 1 on left
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| 10:07 |
: There was an outside curve. Is the change a function of how he pitches at different times? Maybe he starts working outside as the game goes on, the way some pitchers work in another pitch?
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| 10:08 |
: So what is Strasburg looking at in FA? 6 years/160-170M? More?
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| 10:08 |
: Dan which of the Mozart Piano Concertos has the highest WAR?
I still love the No.20 on the Fortepiano (period instrument) |
| 10:08 |
Dan Szymborski: If that’s what floats your boat, Bilson/Gardiner
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| 10:09 |
: Is there anyway for us to come back from needing “do not attempt” printed at the bottom of the commercial where the guy falls out of a high rise window?
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| 10:10 |
Nick Dika: Smells Like Teen Spirit was playing over the PA. Walker Buehler was born three months after Kurt Cobain died.
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| 10:10 |
Dan Szymborski: Dodgers swung at 45 of Strasburg’s 85 pitches in first game, 33 of 73 tonight.
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| 10:10 |
: Will Buehler break Hersheiser’s record in the postseason?!? (At what point does it become a streak?)
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| 10:11 |
Dan Szymborski: Probably not. It’s a streak!
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| 10:11 |
: Dan, Nick, everybody, are we really all brought together by the crunch of delicious Utz Quality Foods, Inc. snack foods?
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| 10:11 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m just noting.
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| 10:11 |
Dan Szymborski: Yup, I’m eating crab chips
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| 10:11 |
Nick Dika: I had not consumed an Utz product in many years. I’m a Humpty Dumpty cheese stick man.
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| 10:11 |
: Who’s the best looking baseball player?
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| 10:12 |
Dan Szymborski: My girlfriend’s super into joey votto for some reason
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| 10:12 |
Nick Dika: Trea Turner is super good looking
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| 10:12 |
: And why is it Kevin Kiermaier
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| 10:12 |
: Utz makes me make the sound of their name
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| 10:12 |
: I am crunching delicious salty peanut butter pretzels. They are not Utz.
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| 10:12 |
Nick Dika: Kris Bryant is basically Zac Efron.
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| 10:12 |
: Buehler plays bulls on parade during his pregame warmup
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| 10:12 |
Nick Dika: Also way older than him I think.
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| 10:13 |
: Blake Snell.
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| 10:13 |
Nick Dika: Don’t be mean
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| 10:13 |
Dan Szymborski: Zac Efron is 31.
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| 10:13 |
Nick Dika: Tuner, Votto, Kiermaier – these good looking players have a bit of an injury history.
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| 10:14 |
Nick Dika: Grady Sizemore!
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| 10:14 |
: Bartolo Colon
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| 10:14 |
: I don’t like Rendon to the Dodgers. I say Lindor when he’s available and move Seager to third.
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| 10:14 |
Dan Szymborski: And Bartolo lasted forever!
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| 10:14 |
Dan Szymborski: David Wells
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| 10:14 |
Nick Dika: Heartily built pitchers is the new market inefficiency
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| 10:14 |
: Apparently McCann will retire. They really couldn’t give him his final PA in that game?…had to pinch hit for him? Granted, maybe there’s some context we’re unaware of, but seems weak.
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| 10:15 |
Dan Szymborski: Probably a kindness to not give him another at bat
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| 10:15 |
Nick Dika: That and being the son of a former major leaguer.
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| 10:15 |
Nick Dika: Someone should sign Taz Tulowitzki to a contract now like they do in soccer.
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| 10:15 |
: I used to have a baseball card of Rick Honeycutt walking off the mound after scratching his head with a thumbtack he forgot he’d taped there to scuff the ball. I think of that every time they show him.
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| 10:15 |
: Would you PH for Stras here?
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| 10:16 |
Nick Dika: The way he’s seeing the ball?!?!
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| 10:16 |
Nick Dika: Could be a two walk game for him
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| 10:17 |
: Do Buehler’s eyes look like a white walker’s?
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| 10:17 |
: Foul bunt yay
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| 10:17 |
: pinch hit on the 3-1 count!
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| 10:17 |
: Nothing makes a gigantic pitcher look more feeble than squaring up to bunt before the pitcher is set.
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| 10:17 |
: THIRD TIME THROUGH THE ORDER HE’S A PUMPKIN NOW!!!
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| 10:18 |
: I like the 3-1 PH idea!
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| 10:18 |
: Petriello thinks letting stras hit was an obvious fail. Do we agree?
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| 10:18 |
: Kershaw for the sixth? Buehler’s pitch count is fine, but with two on and one out, he went to three balls with the pitcher.
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| 10:18 |
: last inning for Buehler?
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| 10:18 |
Dan Szymborski: I think it is
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| 10:19 |
Nick Dika: I know this is hindsight, but if they were gonna try to have him bunt then probably
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| 10:19 |
: I know it’s the nats bullpen (an auto loss) but they
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| 10:20 |
: Yes. Two men on and you’re down. This is a chance. You have to have someone in the pen.
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| 10:20 |
Nick Dika: Corbin wasn’t as bad as his line looked in game 3 I don’t think.
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| 10:20 |
: Why not let him swing on 3-2
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| 10:20 |
Dan Szymborski: TBS Drinking Game: Drink every time Ernie Johnson isn’t sure what happens in a baseball play but is unfazed and powers through anyway
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| 10:20 |
: While they’re paused, I love watching Flaherty and Buehler. This is a good day.
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| 10:20 |
: Dan I don’t wanna die
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| 10:21 |
: Dan I wouldn’t make it through the third inning
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| 10:21 |
: Dan I don’t wanna live forever
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| 10:21 |
Dan Szymborski: What’s annoying is I really like Ernie in NBA stuff.
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| 10:21 |
: That drinking game doesn’t sound safe, Dan. Its like drinking every time they say “Thunder” in Thunderstruck. Except the song is on repeat for 4 hours.
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| 10:21 |
: I could see Buehler getting rendon in a fresh 6th if he retires Eaton here, then Kershaw for Soto platoon adv
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| 10:22 |
Dan Szymborski: “Drink every time you don’t understand a word in a Pogues lyric”
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| 10:22 |
: Buehler can’t be a white walker. Couldn’t coexist with that wildling playing 3B.
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| 10:22 |
: Thunderstruck is the GOAT drinking game
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| 10:22 |
Nick Dika: Roxanne is pretty good too.
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| 10:22 |
: If he gets excited on a runner trying to steal on a 3-2 count with 2 outs, it is a chug! (he’s already done that tonight)
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| 10:22 |
Dan Szymborski: “Wait…guys…do runners always steal at 3-2 with 2 out?”
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| 10:22 |
: The Wilders coexisted by sacrificing to the White Walkers.
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| 10:22 |
: And also Dan(iel?) J. Szymborski sounds very professional, tacking back to that quickly. Could have an MD next to that name.
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| 10:23 |
: Does Martinez run Scherzer out there for an inning?
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| 10:23 |
Dan Szymborski: Hollywood Upstairs Medical College!
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| 10:23 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s inevitable that a starter makes a relief appearance fo rWashington
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| 10:23 |
Nick Dika: I don’t think its gonna be Maxy. But I would not want to be the person telling Scherzer he’s NOT pitching, either.
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| 10:23 |
Dan Szymborski: The truth is they accidentally drowned half the bullpen in a photo op but they’re hoping MLB doesn’t catch on
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| 10:24 |
Dan Szymborski: Nick, don’t cross Scherzer; the blue eye can see how you die.
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| 10:24 |
: Martinez will get killed in the WSN media if he does’t pitch Scherzer at least one inning.
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| 10:24 |
: Maybe they had the other relievers deliver the news to Scherzer. That would explain it all.
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| 10:24 |
Nick Dika: I would absolutely love to be in a Poppa John’s board meeting with Shaq.
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| 10:25 |
Dan Szymborski: I want to be at a gas station with Shaq
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| 10:25 |
: If the Dodgers don’t make a serious run at Betts or Lindor should we just assume that they won’t do a megadeal (with a free agent) as long as Friedman is in charge?
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| 10:25 |
: I saw Shaq whiff on 3 straight pitches in the celebrity all star game last year and it was amazing
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| 10:25 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t think it’s a definite
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| 10:27 |
: They aren’t going to do the 10-year megadeal, I think. They tried 4/185 for Harper and got turned down.
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| 10:27 |
: Dodgers most likely to spend big on their own guys. I think they will really push hard on a Bellinger extension as he’s gonna make so much in arb that it benefits them to make the number even instead of having it balloon to 30m at the end like Betts
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| 10:27 |
: Dodgers have continually shown they’ll pay good money to retain their guys. Turner, jansen, Kershaw, even hill.
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| 10:28 |
: While not near the level of the earlier game, this game is not particularly exciting. Which is surprising, considering how close it is.
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| 10:28 |
Nick Dika: It feels like the Dodgers are in complete control. I guess that’s what happens when you watch Strasburg foul out on a bunt with two men on in the fifth.
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| 10:28 |
: Or we decided Turner is Craster and Buehler is a White Walker?
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| 10:28 |
: So to clarify, did we decide Walker Buehler is Craster?
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| 10:28 |
: I mentioned earlier Bellinger is super2 and mlbtr expects him to make almost 12m on his first of 4 arb trips. He will break arb records if not extended
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| 10:28 |
: It just doesn’t feel close, honestly. Three run lead in Dodger Stadium.
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| 10:29 |
: Nick are you trying to jinx us?
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| 10:29 |
Nick Dika: Never!
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| 10:29 |
Nick Dika: Interesting Canadian note – a lot of Montrealers absolutely hate the Nationals because they view them as stealing their team away from them
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| 10:29 |
: Maxwell’s Silver Hammer on the organ for Max Muncy, that’s amazing
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| 10:30 |
: It feels really close to a Dodger fan tbh.
Buehler got a bit lucky with last inning, his release point is noticeably lower & didn’t have command of his pitches |
| 10:30 |
Dan Szymborski: But that’s my nickname for Maxwell Scherzer!
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| 10:30 |
: Same way people in Seattle feel about the OKC Thunder; and StL and the Rams. People generally don’t root for their exes who dumped them to succeed in life, you know?
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| 10:30 |
: @Brian CashGod: our organist, again, is awesome
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| 10:30 |
: Putting aside your rooting interests as a fan and your partisan political interests, would you rather watch a World Series game or an impeachment trial?
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| 10:30 |
Dan Szymborski: WS
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| 10:31 |
Nick Dika: Things were not good in Montreal for the Expos before left.
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| 10:31 |
Nick Dika: Also this organist doing Sir Duke! I was hoping he would get to the riff.
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| 10:31 |
: Given the insanity of what happened with the expos, blaming Washington for the result seems mistargetted
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| 10:31 |
Nick Dika: Exactly
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| 10:31 |
: If Russell Martin hits a walkoff homer it should be Montreal’s revenge
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| 10:31 |
Dan Szymborski: The games of a Yankees-Dodgers WS might take longer than an impeachment trial
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| 10:31 |
: Montrealers blaming DC is a bit like a spouse blaming the person their spouse cheated with rather than their spouse, no Esp since it was pretty much MLB’s decision.
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| 10:32 |
: The North remembers?
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| 10:32 |
: The first game was over so fast I rewatched the movie Heat, great movie
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| 10:32 |
Nick Dika: Prep you for the release of the Irishman. Pacino and DeNiro together again!
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| 10:32 |
: Montreal’s hate should be at Jeff Loria, they should be sister cities with Miami
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| 10:32 |
: Eskimo sister cities actually, since they both got fucked by the same guy
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| 10:32 |
: The North *always* remembers
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| 10:34 |
: Umpires have been pretty good in the playoffs but no one really talking about it
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| 10:34 |
Dan Szymborski: They’re like the brakes in your car. You only really notice if they break horribly
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| 10:34 |
: Has anyone ever done any back-of-the-napkin math on Marlins Man’s yearly baseball related expenses? I mean, he’s flying cross country, likely staying in hotels, and sitting behind home plate. And then doing that for playoff games.
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| 10:34 |
Dan Szymborski: That would be a fun piece for someone
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| 10:35 |
: How many years in a row would the dodgers have to lose the World Series to convince you we live in a simulation?
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| 10:35 |
Nick Dika: None. Already believe it.
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| 10:35 |
: 5G… Is that how much the phone will cost to use that service?
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| 10:35 |
: You also notice the brakes in your car if they brake horribly. What other situations do both break/brake words apply for the same spot?
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| 10:35 |
: That’s a Meg piece
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| 10:35 |
: Fun Fact: “Jeff Loria” is an anagram of “Offer Jail”
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| 10:36 |
: not related to this game, but I’m a st pete native who’s been a Ray’s fan for 10 years (I’m 26) and I was at the game last night; that was the most people I’ve ever seen cheering for the Ray’s. it was electric.
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| 10:36 |
Dan Szymborski: My favorite is Ron Gardenhire is Groin Hardener
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| 10:36 |
: I am surprised Buehler is still in.
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| 10:36 |
Nick Dika: OMG
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| 10:36 |
Dan Szymborski: I am too.
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| 10:37 |
: Anthony Rendon hit a baseball very hard, ran from home plate to second base, and I don’t think a muscle in his face moved.
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| 10:37 |
: This game is moving along too fast… Can they get Pedro Baez up?
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| 10:37 |
Dan Szymborski: Noooooooooooooo, I have an NLCS preview to write BEFORE I go to bed
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| 10:38 |
Nick Dika: Dan, write the Cardinals part, I’ll cover for you.
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| 10:38 |
Dan Szymborski: I’ve written that part! lol
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| 10:38 |
Nick Dika: Don’t ask me anything about zips people, I’m very bad at Excel
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| 10:39 |
Dan Szymborski: I started writing the Cardinals part in like the 5th inning
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| 10:39 |
: Nick Dika uses vlookup instead of index match
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| 10:39 |
Dan Szymborski: shade thrown!
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| 10:39 |
Nick Dika: It’s amazing how comfortable Soto is with two strikes.
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| 10:39 |
: What do you think Roberts’ plan is: Maeda in the 7th, Jansen in the 8th? Etc.?
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| 10:39 |
: Buehler is certainly gone now, right?
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| 10:39 |
: I use R like an adult
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| 10:40 |
Dan Szymborski: Still a solid start for We Hurl Bleaker
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| 10:40 |
: TI-89 BABY!
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| 10:40 |
Dan Szymborski: TI-92!
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| 10:40 |
: Vlookup much easier to read than index match imho.
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| 10:40 |
Nick Dika: Obviously.
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| 10:41 |
: How does Soto not break his right ankle on every swing?
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| 10:41 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 10:41 |
: People always like to brag that R is better than Excel… But honestly there are lot of situations where Excel, um, excels!
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| 10:41 |
Dan Szymborski: Bam! you tell ’em
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| 10:42 |
: What is this duck imagery I see in various places?
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| 10:42 |
Dan Szymborski: Untitled Goose Game
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| 10:42 |
: Think Strasburg opts out?
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| 10:42 |
: is Untitled Goose Game really that great? I’ve been tempted…
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| 10:42 |
Dan Szymborski:
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| 10:43 |
: Carlos Carraaco’s anagram = the GOAT
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| 10:43 |
: Yikes he just called your goose a duck
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| 10:43 |
Dan Szymborski: Solid recovery there for Buehler
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| 10:43 |
: Strasburg is gonna destroy 4/100 in this market right? If nothing else, he’ll be able to add a couple of years and get 6/150 with an opt-out.
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| 10:44 |
: So that was the first run alllowed by Buehler since the acuna grand slam?
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| 10:44 |
Dan Szymborski: I think he’ll get a big extension tacked on and not opt out
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| 10:44 |
: I got people working for me who still haven’t converted their old Lotus 123 stuff into Excel. !!!
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| 10:44 |
Dan Szymborski: I used lotus 1-2-3 as a kid
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| 10:45 |
: There doesn’t really seem to be much of a sense of urgency in this game, does there? Doesn’t even feel like a winner take all game. If you told me this was a game in mid-June I’d believe it.
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| 10:45 |
Dan Szymborski: It’s that most of the exciting stuff happened early
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| 10:45 |
: I remember 123. And I remember writing papers in wordperfect
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| 10:45 |
Dan Szymborski: You had Kiké catch and homer and the wacky fence door eats the ball
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| 10:46 |
: Was there ever a definitive angle on whether soto was thrown out while celebrating too hard, or thrown out intentionally drawing the throw to third so the tying run could score? (in the wild card game)
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| 10:46 |
: That crowd is a lot more into it than a random June game.
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| 10:46 |
: Restructuring an extension sounds right for Strasburg. Similar situation to CC midway thru his time in NY
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| 10:46 |
Dan Szymborski: Or Kershaw
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| 10:46 |
: I cut my teeth as a kid if the 80s using word perfect and Corel draw
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| 10:46 |
Dan Szymborski: You should’ve used a keyboard.
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| 10:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Whoa, a normal relief pitcher is warming up
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| 10:47 |
: Stras still out there is surprising
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| 10:47 |
: Kendrick doing more for the Dodgers in this series than he did with LA.
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| 10:47 |
: i don’t think I’m old enough to know these programs
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| 10:47 |
: Whoa, a not-a-dinger hit
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| 10:47 |
: What’s Washington’s plan if both Rendon and Strasburg leave? Trade Scherzer? (Yikes.)
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| 10:47 |
Nick Dika: Move back to Montreal.
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| 10:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Hope people go to games instead of having to think about the election
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| 10:47 |
: I’m probably the youngest person here. College anyone?
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| 10:48 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m 41, so I’m probably not the oldest here, but I’m usually the oldest in Discord chats.
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| 10:48 |
Nick Dika: I’m right in the middle – 34
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| 10:48 |
: I could be wrong but it looks like bellinger hasnt been hitting the ball in the air this postseason
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| 10:48 |
: Nats still have Soto, Turner, other pieces, large payroll.
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| 10:49 |
: Is Strasburg generally easy to steal on? Bellinger is getting great jumps
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| 10:49 |
Nick Dika: I think Suzuki has a shoulder issue?
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| 10:49 |
: Freshman in college. Wouldn’t be surprised if there are high schoolers lurking around here though.
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| 10:49 |
: Hear that Dan I am 38 and similar experiences
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| 10:49 |
Nick Dika: Please for the love of god….TELL US WHAT’S COOL?
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| 10:49 |
: turning 28 in an hr and 12 minutes
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| 10:50 |
Nick Dika: Happy early bday!
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| 10:50 |
: Any progress on that FanGraphs discord?
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| 10:50 |
: 34 is much closer to 41 than college…
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| 10:50 |
Nick Dika: Not if you took as long to finish as I did!
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| 10:50 |
Dan Szymborski: Not even bringing that up until the end of the season!
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| 10:50 |
: We are cool, Nick. We are cool.
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| 10:50 |
: I’ve used a TRS-80, that is all I’m saying.
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| 10:50 |
: Bellinger is super fast
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| 10:50 |
Nick Dika: He really is a complete player.
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| 10:51 |
: My daughter was born on the same day as Jorge Alfaro. I’m very old. 🙁
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| 10:51 |
: are the Dodgers making a mistake using Kershaw here instead of their regular pen like Maeda/Urias/etc.?
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| 10:51 |
Nick Dika: To the point about this feeling like a regular season game, it doesn’t totally feel necessary, does it?
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| 10:51 |
Dan Szymborski: Sometimes feel older because of my career. I used to be one of the really young guys in the sabermetrics community, along with Dave Cameron 22, 23 years ago, now there’s a whole generation of college kids aspiring to be in the field and I’m old enough to be their dad. It takes some getting use to being a veteran in the field seemingly so early.
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| 10:52 |
: oh god for a moment I thought they got Ice Cube and Dave Winfield mixed up
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| 10:52 |
: I was born a few months after Wander Franco
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| 10:52 |
: What’s cooler than being cool?
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| 10:52 |
Dan Szymborski: Cold>
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| 10:52 |
: *Ice* cold
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| 10:52 |
Dan Szymborski: Heat Death of the Universe COol
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| 10:53 |
: Frozen Elsa Cold
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| 10:53 |
: 1 Kelvin’
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| 10:53 |
: Kershaw has always pitched well when used in playoff relief. His game7 2017 ws performance is really forgotten
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| 10:54 |
Dan Szymborski: Why do they seem shocked it might be only a one inning appearance for Kershaw?
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| 10:55 |
Dan Szymborski: Yeah, he had that game 7, but other than that, mostly an inning and maybe a spare out or two
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| 10:55 |
: Kershaw 2017 a lot different than Kershaw 2019 though….. If it doesn’t work, Dave Roberts is going to get murdered.
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| 10:55 |
: friedman and company are building these guys in a lab
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| 10:55 |
: Those kinds of playoff narratives get busted by winning, because they start out of frustration from losing. Only way to change the narrative is for the Dodgers to win a WS.
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| 10:56 |
Nick Dika: Look at David Price – he totally changed his playoff narrative last season.
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| 10:56 |
: Alright alright alright alright alright alright alright
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| 10:56 |
: Because they have unrealistic expectations of starters in relief thanks to Madison K Bumgarner
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| 10:56 |
: It would be nice for the Twins to change their playoff narrative
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| 10:56 |
Nick Dika: His middle name is Kyle????
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| 10:56 |
: Kershaw usually throws a bullpen 48 hours before a start. He didn’t today. He throws an inning and it’s his bullpen and he’s lined up for g1 nlcs
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| 10:57 |
: How is Strasburg still in?
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| 10:57 |
: Anything more than an inning and aren’t both Buehler and Kershaw probably out until game 3? (meaning only 3 starts between them, instead of 4 in a potential LCS)
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| 10:57 |
Nick Dika: That’s why I’d save him if at all possible.
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| 10:57 |
: In my opinion, we just wait for one of two things to happen with the Dodgers: Either they mess up the sliders, and show up to a game in big head mode Or the next random out of nowhere star player on the Dodgers is named “Joe Random” or “Andrew Friedman” and we know the Dodgers have just been importing create-a-players into real life |
| 10:58 |
Dan Szymborski: I see why they left Strasburg in – his control was way sharper that inning thant he first
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| 10:58 |
: I think even with game 5 the dodgers have the pitching exactly where they want it. They want ryu to pitch game 1 or 2 as he’s much better at home and Buehler will be set up for g3
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| 10:59 |
: You all know how Madison Bumgarner dated a different Madison Bumgarner in high school right?
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| 10:59 |
Dan Szymborski: Wait, what?
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| 10:59 |
Nick Dika: I still don’t believe that story.
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| 10:59 |
: Kyle is allowed to be a middle name???
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| 10:59 |
: What is everyone drinking?
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| 10:59 |
Nick Dika: I didn’t think so.
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| 10:59 |
Dan Szymborski: I’ve been slowly drinking a coke
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| 11:00 |
: It could be set perfectly for LA. Kershaw 1/5
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| 11:00 |
: Im having a delicious Komes Baltic porter
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| 11:00 |
: Ryu 2/6, Buehler 3/7, and Hill 4.
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| 11:00 |
: Water
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| 11:00 |
: Will Smith’s middle name is Dills. Can I change my middle name to Dills? Can I change my full name to Will Dills Smith?
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| 11:00 |
: I am drinking water.
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| 11:00 |
Nick Dika: Water here too.
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| 11:00 |
: What- Buehler out to start the 7th?????
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| 11:00 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m surprised
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| 11:01 |
Dan Szymborski: Just going Buehler-Kershaw-Jansen?
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| 11:01 |
Dan Szymborski: I bet the rope is limited though
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| 11:01 |
Dan Szymborski: Double this time ends his start I think
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| 11:01 |
: Or just Buehler-Buehler-Buehler
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| 11:01 |
Dan Szymborski: At 100 now he’s not going 9!
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| 11:01 |
Nick Dika: Trying to sneak him through the bottom of the lineup one more time
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| 11:02 |
: They haven’t won this one yet!
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| 11:02 |
Dan Szymborski: oh
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| 11:02 |
: Oh no
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| 11:02 |
: Holy shit
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| 11:02 |
Dan Szymborski: That was a nasty ass one
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| 11:02 |
Nick Dika: Shit. That did not sound like it hit helmet.
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| 11:02 |
Dan Szymborski: It sounded like flesh and then helmet bounce
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| 11:03 |
Dan Szymborski: Wrwist then kinda bounced into face helmet
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| 11:03 |
Nick Dika: Better wrist than face.
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| 11:03 |
Dan Szymborski: Hopefully, it looked way worse than it did in the end
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| 11:03 |
: Arm -> helmet
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| 11:03 |
: Drinking nothing. At my age, best to avoid the mid-sleep pee run. 🙁
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| 11:03 |
: Got to eject Buehler for that, right?
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| 11:03 |
Dan Szymborski: There’s no way that was intentional
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| 11:04 |
Dan Szymborski: In the front shot, it looked like more of a glancing blow and he got the wind knocked out of him. I mean still sucks and hurts, but way better than it could have
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| 11:04 |
: We’re benches warned earlier? Why would you consider ejection?
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| 11:05 |
: Concussed?
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| 11:05 |
Dan Szymborski: Yeah, my thought. This hasn’t been a high stress game
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| 11:05 |
Nick Dika: I would think so
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| 11:05 |
Nick Dika: Even if he’s not, you can’t take that chance in 2019
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| 11:05 |
: They don’t have anyone else to run before putting Gomes in the game?
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| 11:05 |
Dan Szymborski: Just checked, it’s his first career pinch-run.
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| 11:06 |
: esp bad for a catcher, they’re already at higher risk for concussions, and the more you have the worse
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| 11:06 |
: Nick you shouldnt take that chance any year!
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| 11:06 |
Nick Dika: heyo
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| 11:06 |
: Can’t imagine catching 95 mph with a wrist that just took 96 flush
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| 11:06 |
Nick Dika: I would immediately retire
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| 11:07 |
: Pinch-shuffle, more like.
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| 11:07 |
: Rainey not the arm I would expect to pitch in this game for was
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| 11:08 |
Nick Dika: Are you even allowed to pitch if you aren’t Patrick Corbin or Max Scherzer?
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| 11:08 |
: Who is the 3rd catcher if there’s an emergency?
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| 11:08 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure
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| 11:09 |
Nick Dika: Not Bryce Harper anymore.
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| 11:09 |
Nick Dika: (I also don’t know)
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| 11:09 |
: Think it’s Parra
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| 11:09 |
Dan Szymborski: “OK Rodney, you look kinda like a catcher. Suit up!”
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| 11:09 |
: Hudson and Doolittle not surprising. Anyone else surprising
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| 11:09 |
: BABY SHARK CATCHER
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| 11:10 |
: Hunter Strickland so he can’t pitch.
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| 11:10 |
: Max Scherzer pitches and catches the tenth inning, obviously.
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| 11:10 |
: We can add two more starts to Jay’s list of 100+ pitches this postseason.
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| 11:10 |
Dan Szymborski: He has to throw pop fly eephus pitches that he can catch
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| 11:10 |
: the *new* Fernando Rodney Experience
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| 11:11 |
: Was just looking at was roster, no obvious candidate for 3rd c.
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| 11:11 |
Dan Szymborski: Yeah, I was looking and trying to figure out and didn’t see anyone who offhand even played a few games in the minors
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| 11:11 |
: He’s overthrowing
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| 11:11 |
: around how many ppl are reading this chat?
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| 11:11 |
Dan Szymborski: 245
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| 11:12 |
: Just showed hte dugout with a line of iPads playing the game. Are they legal if they’re not connected to anything? What are the rules now?
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| 11:13 |
Dan Szymborski: He begins the long walk? That’s kind of a dark reference ernie
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| 11:13 |
: I’d HATE to see Kershaw blow it here.
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| 11:14 |
: CJ, you are banished! Don’t say such things.
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| 11:14 |
: If Kershaw blows this and Dodgers lose, Roberts is gone I think as manager….
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| 11:14 |
: Not a postseason to buck the narratives so far. Twins can’t win a game. Braves can’t win a series. Kershaw..?
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| 11:15 |
: No way they fire Dave Roberts.
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| 11:15 |
: Kershaw has been good in the postseason people!
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| 11:15 |
: So what happened to Adam Eaton anyway? Was it the injury (think it was a torn ACL)? Or was it just a career year and the Nats bought kinda high on him
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| 11:16 |
Nick Dika: It was a career year. But he’s been ok when he’s been healthy.
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| 11:16 |
Nick Dika: Just ok? Yeah just ok.
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| 11:16 |
: Remember when Meg wrote about Félix as her Guy? My Guy is pitching!
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| 11:17 |
: Yeah, there’s a zero chance of Roberts going barring some revelation that he turned off everyone’s power
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| 11:17 |
: Roberts would have to strip naked and run to the mound to tackle Kershaw to get fired. He’s a good manager with a lot of capital.
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| 11:17 |
: 4.33 ERA good for postseason? That’s not good. That’s average at best….
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| 11:17 |
: That didn’t really look like a swing to me
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| 11:17 |
Nick Dika: Just dropped a little bit
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| 11:17 |
Dan Szymborski: Yeah, I kinda want tos ee the replay
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| 11:18 |
: I’ll never understand people who think Dave Roberts makes all his decisions himself. Who they want in which situation is definitely discussed in advance
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| 11:18 |
: Corbin or Rainey?
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| 11:18 |
: MLB doesn’t have a ton of superstar calls but I think that might have been one, especially since it didn’t even go to appeal
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| 11:19 |
Dan Szymborski: I wonder if Glavine would even get the Glavine calls today
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| 11:19 |
: Kershaw pitches the 8th right?
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| 11:19 |
Nick Dika: You’d think they wouldn’t get him hot for one hitter.
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| 11:20 |
: CAN WE GET A CAMERA FOR THE SWINGING STRIKES ALREADY??
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| 11:20 |
: LOOGY Kershaw, I’d like to see that.
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| 11:20 |
: On the contrary he had to throw he skipped his bullpen
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| 11:20 |
: No, but you get a slow-motion camera of Kershaw screaming instead. Enjoy!
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| 11:21 |
Dan Szymborski: What was Willy Dilly doing there?
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| 11:21 |
Dan Szymborski: Tanner Rainey Surprised He’s in Baseball Game Too
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| 11:21 |
: That is not Patrick Corbin.
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| 11:21 |
: Is Kershaw even on deck?
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| 11:21 |
: FYI they did a double switch, so of course Kershaw is going back out.
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| 11:22 |
Dan Szymborski: Yup, they brought in Chris Taylor
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| 11:22 |
Dan Szymborski: Kiké at 2nd, Muncy to 1st
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| 11:22 |
Dan Szymborski: Beaty gone
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| 11:22 |
: They double switched
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| 11:22 |
Nick Dika: Do you think that Max Scherzer manages the team if he’s not pitching?
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| 11:23 |
Nick Dika: Not officially, but ya know, tells Dave Martinez what to do?
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| 11:23 |
Dan Szymborski: He manages with fear and intimidation
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| 11:23 |
Nick Dika: WWMD
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| 11:23 |
: Max Scherzer uses his eyes to hypnotize Martinez before every game
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| 11:23 |
: Scherzer looks like he’s advocating for an inning.
|
| 11:23 |
: Bohemian Rhapsody!
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| 11:23 |
Nick Dika: The organ player is ambitious. I love it.
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| 11:23 |
Dan Szymborski: Ned Yost’s favorite book.
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| 11:24 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 11:24 |
: Scherzer coming in would be a mistake.
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| 11:24 |
: “Advocating” well that’s one way to put it
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| 11:24 |
: Tanner Rainey does his job, to the surprise of everyone
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| 11:25 |
Nick Dika: Yost’s version of that book needs to have an Alcides Escobar baseball card bookmark in it.
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| 11:25 |
Dan Szymborski: “Skip, what’s that zero near my name in the box score?” “That, Tanner, my boy, is a 0 you didn’t walk any batters.” “Oh crap, do I have to go out and try again?”
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| 11:25 |
: Do you think Scherzer was bullied as a kid for his eyes or because he was Mac Scherzer everyone was intimidated?
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| 11:26 |
Dan Szymborski: He was bullied until the first or at the latest, the second death
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| 11:26 |
: So do we see Jansen or does Kershaw close this out?
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| 11:27 |
Dan Szymborski: Kershaw’s not going 2 1/3
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| 11:27 |
: Oh No you didn’t
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| 11:27 |
Nick Dika: Sorry!
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| 11:27 |
: Generous first strike
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| 11:27 |
: Why aren’t they pinch hitting for Joc? PLATOON SPLITS
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| 11:28 |
Nick Dika: That seems like something the Dodgers would want to do
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| 11:28 |
Nick Dika: Maybe they love Joc’s defense?
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| 11:28 |
: What’s with managers having starters come in mid-inning? Great to use them, but as with Kershaw, why not give Corbin a clean inning rather than this?
|
| 11:28 |
: How many times has Jansen pitched this series?
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| 11:28 |
Dan Szymborski: He was in the 10-4 blowout
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| 11:29 |
: Did we ever see a replay of Kershaw’s K?
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| 11:29 |
Dan Szymborski: I don’t believe we did
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| 11:29 |
: What is the dodgers Statistical probability of winning this game right now
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| 11:29 |
Nick Dika: WE is at 87.6% on FG as of the Chris Taylor fly out
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| 11:30 |
: They don’t love jocs defense
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| 11:30 |
Nick Dika: WHY DID HE HIT??
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| 11:30 |
: Dan, I have a theory that all dynamic systems exhibit heteroskedasticity because once variance is introduced the system deteriorates. Can you give me an example without a specific time horizon of a homoskedastic system that’s naturally occuring?
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| 11:30 |
Dan Szymborski: At 11:30 after seven hours of baseball?
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| 11:31 |
Nick Dika: FWIW – Pederson’s defensive metrics are worse at 1B than OF
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| 11:31 |
: Dan, don’t be timezone-ist. It is 8:30 here
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| 11:31 |
: Pollock has looked lost I think only lux and freese are guys they really want to be using the rest of the game
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| 11:31 |
: Pederson at 1st was absolutely the worst major league defense I have ever seen
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| 11:32 |
Dan Szymborski: OF Hundley
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| 11:32 |
: Pollock is the only remaining OF on the LA bench, so they probably want to keep him in reserve in case of injury
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| 11:32 |
Dan Szymborski: Oops
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| 11:32 |
: Kershaw playoff narrative!
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| 11:32 |
: JC YAY!
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| 11:32 |
: Ren -Gone!!!
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| 11:32 |
: CJ, I blame you!
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| 11:32 |
: Well this is interesting!
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| 11:33 |
Dan Szymborski: Lord
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| 11:33 |
: CJ, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!
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| 11:33 |
Nick Dika: That was quick.
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| 11:33 |
: CJ apologies. Made you messianic.
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| 11:33 |
Dan Szymborski: Oh god, we’re going to have an 18 inning game
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| 11:33 |
: I HATE MYSELF. I’M SO SORRY!!
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| 11:33 |
: DESPA-SOTO
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| 11:33 |
: I for one look forward to the first all-nighter chat in Fangraphs history
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| 11:34 |
Dan Szymborski: We spend three hours getting here and everything was just reset in one minute!
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| 11:34 |
: The Astros and Dodgers could actually both be out of the playoffs this time tomorrow. Holy.
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| 11:35 |
Nick Dika: Taps sign that says “Nationals Bullpen”
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| 11:34 |
: The legend of playoff Kershaw continues
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| 11:34 |
: Your apologies mean nothing to me unless you can rectify the situation. Actions, CJ.
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| 11:34 |
: Was there no fangraphs chat for the marathon WS game last year?
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| 11:34 |
Dan Szymborski: Dunno
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| 11:34 |
Dan Szymborski: If there had been one, nobody would have ever wanted to do a chat again
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| 11:35 |
: Given who’s still available, Dodgers are still in good position here, right?
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| 11:36 |
: TBS that is the wrong song to play
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| 11:36 |
: as a Yankees fan, I would be fine with one or both of the Astros and Dodgers getting bounced. they should feel free to go whenever they’re ready
|
| 11:36 |
: How does this always happen
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| 11:36 |
: Smart for Dave Roberts to know that he would want Joc’s bat still in the game? Maybe he is playing 4D chess?
|
| 11:36 |
: Dansby Swanson now up to 2 Coronas bought for that brunette…..
|
| 11:36 |
Nick Dika: I knew the guy from that commercial looked familiar.
|
| 11:36 |
: I have a flight to catch in the morning. Why Kershaw, why?
|
| 11:36 |
Nick Dika: Or wait….was it Charlie Culberson?
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| 11:37 |
: I guess this Kershaw fellow should stick with being a LOOGY.
|
| 11:37 |
Dan Szymborski: “We’ll just keep the camera on sad lonely Kershaw.”
|
| 11:37 |
: oof that shot of Kershaw in the dugout
|
| 11:38 |
: Kershaw has to pay double for drinks in LA for the rest of his life
|
| 11:38 |
Nick Dika: “Everyone get out of the dugout. Kersh needs to lament.”
|
| 11:38 |
: Does Kershaw have a no hitter going? No one is sitting next to him?
|
| 11:38 |
Dan Szymborski: Almost a no-outer!
|
| 11:38 |
: seriously did they evacuate the Dodgers dugout or something? where was everyone else?
|
| 11:38 |
: WHERE ARE ALL OF THE OTHER DODGERS???
|
| 11:38 |
Dan Szymborski: They’re gone.
|
| 11:38 |
: It’s like when Yu Darvish farted and cleared the dugout, but it’s just Kershaw’s sadness instead
|
| 11:38 |
: Thanos snap?
|
| 11:39 |
: It’s like a bowl of Sky Line Chili was spilled in the dugout
|
| 11:39 |
Nick Dika: Speaking of Darvish farting….
|
| 11:39 |
: On the bright side, he does have plenty of towels.
|
| 11:40 |
Dan Szymborski:
 Hello darkness my old friend  |
| 11:40 |
: Maeda is feeling it right now
|
| 11:40 |
: That’s the most emotion I’ve ever seen from Maeda….
|
| 11:41 |
: Will the organist break out “We are still not the Champions” if the Dodgers lose?
|
| 11:41 |
: Dan, I don’t need to see that. Get us a GIF of Maeda!
|
| 11:42 |
Dan Szymborski: 
|
| 11:42 |
: marlins man is like find waldo on easy mode
|
| 11:43 |
: Wasn’t that part of the dance moves from a Pulp Fiction
|
| 11:43 |
: “find waldo”?
|
| 11:44 |
: I prefer to live in a world where where’s waldo is called find waldo
|
| 11:44 |
: I also enjoyed the show Find in the World Carmen San Diego
|
| 11:44 |
: It’s “Where’s Waldo?”! Never pass up a chance to use a good alliteration (or call something by its correct name)
|
| 11:45 |
: I flipped on Survivor and I think they are going to vote Kershaw off the island.
|
| 11:46 |
: Voting Kershaw to San Diego
|
| 11:46 |
: Has any pitcher ever lost three games in one divisional series? Asking for a Corbin
|
| 11:46 |
: Dan – any fun RPG cards of Francouer to display?
|
| 11:46 |
Nick Dika: Turner did not try to get out of the way of that pitch
|
| 11:46 |
: He kinda stepped into that one…
|
| 11:46 |
Dan Szymborski: No Hearthstone cards, I’m on a Blizzard boycott.
|
| 11:47 |
: I can’t imagine that felt good, but he definitely didn’t seem too fussed about taking that on his leg.
|
| 11:47 |
: Francoeur is kind of bad as an announcer right? I am surprised how much I like Pierzynski
|
| 11:47 |
Dan Szymborski: Frenchy just hasn’t really meshed with the guys he’s been with
|
| 11:47 |
: So given the Dodgers position player depth, that would’ve been the perfect spot to do a Grover Cleveland with Kolarek and Maeda swapping playing the field and the mound for L/R/L/R/R?
|
| 11:48 |
: just pointing out the ad that was on the Dodger Stadium backstop when Kershaw gave it up – 
|
| 11:48 |
: Frenchy isn’t particularly good. I loved AJ and Girardi. They are excellent together
|
| 11:48 |
: Can we give the organist mvp?
|
| 11:48 |
Dan Szymborski: I wanted to hate AJ, but even though his points something end up in weird locations, he sounds like he’s actually enjoying what he’s doing
|
| 11:48 |
: Dan, are you allowed to have political thoughts and still post articles to ESPN?
|
| 11:48 |
Dan Szymborski: Nobody ever cared what I do
|
| 11:48 |
: Problem with Francoeur is that I remember how seemingly stubborn he was as a player.
|
| 11:49 |
: Won’t Get Fooled Again? The organist is on fire
|
| 11:49 |
Nick Dika: Bellinger takes big daddy hacks.
|
| 11:49 |
Dan Szymborski: I swear Ernie Johnson just called Corbin the third nationalist pitcher
|
| 11:49 |
: “Big Daddy Bellinger” works as a nickname!
|
| 11:49 |
: THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
|
| 11:49 |
: Dodger Stadium organist is legendary. He can seamlessly transition ANY song into a “Let’s Go Dodgers” chant
|
| 11:50 |
Dan Szymborski: The rest of the team slowly filtered in, not making direct eye contact
|
| 11:50 |
: Pierzynski is unbearable in a 2-man booth, btw. Girardi is teeing him up nicely so that he can stay on target more. But that kind of chemistry is what helps the booth sound much better, too.
|
| 11:50 |
Dan Szymborski: CHemistry really does matter in the booths. Ron Darling is so much worse when he’s not on his home turf
|
| 11:50 |
: Smoltz was actually good when he started announcing, but then ……. In other words, I’d give AJ a chance to get on our nerves eventually
|
| 11:51 |
Dan Szymborski: He got on all his team’s nerves eventually
|
| 11:51 |
: Who will break the ice? Someone will make contact eventually.
|
| 11:51 |
Dan Szymborski: I think Freese is still top 10 in all time playoff WPA
|
| 11:51 |
: I think we just generally try to find ways to hate national announcers. Don’t think that’s going to change.
|
| 11:52 |
: My god Ruhle is on fire
|
| 11:52 |
: Bar a few exceptions, like Vin Scully, obviously.
|
| 11:52 |
Dan Szymborski: Swing
|
| 11:53 |
: Vin Scully put the kibosh on doing a game this postseason, right?
|
| 11:53 |
Dan Szymborski: All you need to get Vin to do a postseason game is have a giant net and some kind of weapon
|
| 11:53 |
: David Freese is indeed 9th all time for batter’s postseason WPA
|
| 11:53 |
Nick Dika: And an elephant-grade tranquilizer
|
| 11:54 |
: Who do you think has watched the most baseball games in history? Connie Mack? Vin Scully? Some random scout we’ve never heard of?
|
| 11:54 |
Dan Szymborski: Some MLB.com producer
|
| 11:54 |
: don’t even need a weapon – just find a billionaire willing to write a nice check to charity in return for Vin doing a game
|
| 11:54 |
Dan Szymborski: I like the Scooby Doo plan idea though
|
| 11:54 |
: No, not a tranquilizer, you need a stimulant
|
| 11:54 |
: I think Sam and Ben tried to entertain that question on Effectively Wild once, but I don’t remember their conclusion.
|
| 11:54 |
: I think they decided on a scout.
|
| 11:54 |
Nick Dika: Tranq is to get him into the booth
|
| 11:55 |
: god we’re debating how to best drug Vin Scully…
|
| 11:55 |
: Can the Nats afford to pinch hit for Corbin?
|
| 11:56 |
Nick Dika: It looked like Hudson was waiting to come into the game. Although their bench is pretty thin….
|
| 11:56 |
: they have to pinch hit, right?
|
| 11:56 |
: Is Vin going to yell at “those meddling kids” Dan?
|
| 11:56 |
Dan Szymborski: I sure hope so
|
| 11:57 |
: Am i wrong in thinking that the nats are at a disadvantage as this goes on. due to them having one of the worst bullpens of all time?
|
| 11:57 |
Dan Szymborski: No
|
| 11:57 |
: walk off loss will be a nice change from losing game 5s at home
|
| 11:57 |
: Adams, Dozier, Parra and Robles (who I think is hurt?) on their bench
|
| 11:58 |
: Joe Kelly… Buckle you seatbelts, this could get interesting.
|
| 11:58 |
Dan Szymborski: Hold on to your butts gif
|
| 11:58 |
Dan Szymborski: 
|
| 11:58 |
: Ok my laptop is about to die. So is my heart rate. Talk to y’all later.
|
| 11:59 |
: Nats do still have Doolittle, Hudson, Rodney, Sanchez and Scherzer
|
| 11:59 |
: Does Striking out Taylor really count as a strikeout?
|
| 12:00 |
: Only a Dodgers fan would point out that Rodney is still available
|
| 12:00 |
: He is good so long as he doesn’t throw the world’s most hittable 99mph fastball in the strikezone
|
| 12:00 |
Dan Szymborski: Hodor did not hold the door.
|
| 12:01 |
: My God Dan when you said that I thought my feed was behind and Adams had hit a dong
|
| 12:01 |
Dan Szymborski: lol
|
| 12:01 |
Nick Dika: Joe Kelly pitching like this last October is what got him a nice contract with the Dodgers last offseason.
|
| 12:01 |
Dan Szymborski: Ernie’s right about them swinging at everything sinc ethe homers
|
| 12:02 |
: Trea Turner? More like treat earner
|
| 12:02 |
Dan Szymborski: Er, TREAT URN
|
| 12:02 |
Dan Szymborski: TASTE THE ASHES
|
| 12:02 |
: Can’t wait for Rob Manfred to give Bran Stark the Commissioner’s Trophy at the end of the World Series because “it’s such a good story”
|
| 12:02 |
: Fun fact: when Fernando Rodney signed his first professional contract, Juan Soto was a fertilized egg.
|
| 12:02 |
Dan Szymborski: by Fernando Rodney
|
| 12:03 |
Dan Szymborski: I like to imagine MLB covering up a dark secret that Rodney is the father of 30% of MLB players
|
| 12:03 |
: I just need George RR Martin to finish the damn books so I can get over season 8
|
| 12:03 |
Dan Szymborski: hahahahaha, I’m sure that’ll happen.
|
| 12:03 |
: no that’s bartolo
|
| 12:03 |
: according to Baseball Reference’s Play Index, no pitcher has ever lost 3 games in one LDS. guess Corbin won’t get that shot
|
| 12:03 |
: We are at that hour 🙃
|
| 12:04 |
Dan Szymborski: There’s only so much coherence you can expect from me finishing up the 4th hour of a chat
|
| 12:04 |
: Which baseball team is the Bran the broken of baseball?
|
| 12:04 |
: Well, I don’t have to work tomorrow, so I’m ready for this to go all night.
|
| 12:04 |
Nick Dika: Hey Toronto isn’t that bad!
|
| 12:04 |
Dan Szymborski: I STILL HAVE TO FINISH NLCS PREVIEW
|
| 12:04 |
: Bran is the rockies
|
| 12:05 |
: well I think there’s now no doubt the torch has been passed from Kershaw to Buehler as the ace of the Dodgers now.
|
| 12:05 |
Dan Szymborski: I think that already happened
|
| 12:05 |
: don’t have to preview the NLCS if the NLDS never ends *taps forehead*
|
| 12:05 |
: Twins were Bran the Broken of this postseason. Cleveland overall.
|
| 12:05 |
: Nominate the hero to win the game
|
| 12:05 |
: Does anyone know where I can buy on of those hats that go to the side like Rodney’s? Because when I go to the store they only have those hats with the bills in the front (Herc’d)
|
| 12:05 |
Nick Dika: Do we know what Herc was short for on the Wire?
|
| 12:06 |
: Guys Bran the Broken is the literal king. Why are we comparing him to bad teams?
|
| 12:06 |
Nick Dika: He’s kind of only king by default though? And no one really wanted him to be?
|
| 12:06 |
Dan Szymborski:
The Hero of This Game
Walker Buehler (6.1% | 7 votes)
Clayton Kershaw’s Sadness (38.9% | 44 votes)
Anthony Rendon (10.6% | 12 votes)
Meatballs (10.6% | 12 votes)
The Friendships You Made (8.8% | 10 votes)
Sleep, Beautiful Sleep (15.0% | 17 votes)
Ernie Johnson Pinch-Run Suicide Squeeze (9.7% | 11 votes)
Total Votes: 113
|
| 12:06 |
: So first, you have to have a father that wore his hats like that as a fisherman. Then you need to become an MLB player. Then you get some.
|
| 12:07 |
: No clue. And now I have to change my handle.
|
| 12:07 |
: Where’s Skyline Chili in the poll?
|
| 12:07 |
Dan Szymborski: I said hero
|
| 12:07 |
: Better question: what was Carver’s first name
|
| 12:07 |
Nick Dika: Ellis!
|
| 12:07 |
Dan Szymborski: Timmc
|
| 12:07 |
Nick Dika: Skyline Chilli is why the Reds never make the playoffs
|
| 12:07 |
Dan Szymborski: Timmc
|
| 12:08 |
: Do the Cincinnati Bengals have fans?
|
| 12:08 |
: Herc is short for Hercule Poirot, obviously.
|
| 12:08 |
Nick Dika: lol
|
| 12:08 |
Dan Szymborski: If I hear another Who Dey and Who Dat ad, I will open my veins in a hot bath
|
| 12:08 |
Dan Szymborski: What if The Wire is just part of the Poirotiverse?
|
| 12:09 |
Nick Dika: They say David Simon is a genius, so it is possible….
|
| 12:09 |
: Curry doesn’t generally have beans but is still curry if it does.
|
| 12:09 |
Dan Szymborski: Well that was close
|
| 12:09 |
: Oh man I thought Bill Dills just ended the game
|
| 12:09 |
Dan Szymborski: WILLY DILLY
|
| 12:09 |
Nick Dika: If Will Smith wins it we’re gonna get a “this is a story all about how….” parody for sure
|
| 12:10 |
Dan Szymborski: For a brief moment, Clayton Kershaw felt joy in his heart.
|
| 12:10 |
: oh man the memes would’ve been terrific if Will Smith walked off
|
| 12:10 |
: “They were trying to will it over the wall” well done ernest
|
| 12:10 |
: However, his sadness is the hero so it was short-lived
|
| 12:11 |
: Hercule Poirot and the case of the disappearing pitcher
|
| 12:11 |
: Back to 2016 baseball
|
| 12:12 |
Nick Dika: I’d say Rendon and Soto are more than the Nationals’ two hottest hitters, Ernie.
|
| 12:12 |
: Bonus BAISBALL!
|
| 12:12 |
: Just pinch hit Kirk Gibson already
|
| 12:13 |
: You have to be facing an actually good reliever to pinch hit Gibson. Nats have outsmarted the Dodgers by not having any.
|
| 12:14 |
: gimme gingergaard!!!!
|
| 12:14 |
: Someone need to call Clemens, he should be good to go until the 18th
|
| 12:14 |
: It’s day 5 of the game, inning 345, the teams have resorted to using fans because their players were dropping from exhaustion….please let it end
|
| 12:14 |
Dan Szymborski: I’m close the chat before inning 345
|
| 12:14 |
: This is the Nats big chance to put a spike in these guys.
|
| 12:15 |
: Clemens as in Roger for the Nats or Ben for this chat?
|
| 12:15 |
: I know the world is screwed up and unfair to Kershaw because as a Giants fan, I felt awful for him at the point. The man is so damn good, and so damn unlucky at the worst moments.
|
| 12:15 |
: After 12 innings each team should be able to choose the opposing pitcher for an inning.
|
| 12:15 |
Nick Dika: The Dodgers can only chose one?
|
| 12:15 |
: Where is Gingergaard? Or Big Red, if we grant him self-determination.
|
| 12:15 |
: How many innings before the chat is closed
|
| 12:15 |
Dan Szymborski: When I have to go on a late night bathroom break and Nick’s fallen asleep
|
| 12:15 |
: Will Smith flyout
EV 100.3 mph 26 deg .640 xBA. Oof |
| 12:16 |
: Is MLB saving Joe West for the World Series?
|
| 12:16 |
: Do the umpires ever go on a late night bathroom break in these extra inning games?
|
| 12:16 |
Nick Dika: Only when they’re playing on grass
|
| 12:17 |
: The Andy McCullough 2014 baseballs theory looks better and better
|
| 12:17 |
: Please let Joe Kelly suck. (Yankee fan)
|
| 12:17 |
: There’s been a ton of barrels in this game and most of them have been outs
|
| 12:18 |
: “Now on to pitch for the Dodgers in the top of the 83rd, Dee P. Gordon”
|
| 12:18 |
: turns out when you don’t swing at terrible sliders Joe Kelly doesn’t look so hot
|
| 12:18 |
Nick Dika: Tell that to the bottom two thirds of the Nationals’ lineup
|
| 12:18 |
: Soto should bunt Eaton over here. (Smoltz’d)
|
| 12:19 |
: Should Kelly really be pitching in this spot?
|
| 12:19 |
Dan Szymborski: They want Kolarek in I assume, so they’re not going to burn another reliever
|
| 12:19 |
Dan Szymborski: “You want a slow heartbeat. You need your parts to get less oxygen.”
|
| 12:19 |
: To back up Dodger fan, of the 7 barrels so far in this game, 4 have been outs.
|
| 12:19 |
: At the end of the day if you don’t have Joe Kelly for this spot what do you have him for? You signed him to pitch in spots like this in October.
|
| 12:19 |
: After the 8th I was thinking they just need to survive until Soto is up again
|
| 12:20 |
: Rendon = Freeman – bone spurs
|
| 12:20 |
Dan Szymborski: Joe Kelly’s imitating a White Castle power outage.
|
| 12:21 |
Dan Szymborski: “See how I said Anthony Rendon needs to slow down his mind, slow down his body. Somehow, him getting a hit proves that or something.”
|
| 12:22 |
: Second time tonight the ball gets wedged in the wall somehow
|
| 12:22 |
Nick Dika: No Kolarek
|
| 12:22 |
Nick Dika: BB to Soto
|
| 12:22 |
: Why is Jansen not in
|
| 12:22 |
: no kenley?
|
| 12:22 |
: Damn I REALLY wanted to see Soto bat :'(
|
| 12:23 |
Nick Dika: Howie Kendrick grand slam. Just like we all drew it up.
|
| 12:23 |
Dan Szymborski: Howie Kendrick is now forgiven by everyone in DC.
|
| 12:25 |
: SHOULD’VE PITCHED TO SOTO.
|
| 12:25 |
: Is Jansen hurt or something? If he’s not in the game there when were they planning on using him?
|
| 12:25 |
: And the most hittable 99mph fastball lives on.
|
| 12:25 |
: Doesn’t Howie know that home runs kill rallies? Shoulda just punched a soft liner the other way, kept the line moving.
|
| 12:25 |
: Did they forget they can switch pitchers?
|
| 12:25 |
Dan Szymborski: Well, it *is* a low-leverage situation now!
|
| 12:25 |
Nick Dika: Maybe there’s something we don’t know about Jansen?
|
| 12:26 |
Nick Dika: He’s hurt? Stuck in LA traffic?
|
| 12:26 |
: What about all the other relievers?
|
| 12:26 |
Nick Dika: Also that
|
| 12:26 |
Dan Szymborski: Even Buck Showalter would have pulled Kelly by now.
|
| 12:26 |
: That will get Joe Kelly s contract on him in the offseason
|
| 12:27 |
: Do you know what’s going to be fun? The Dave Roberts interview…
|
| 12:27 |
: But at least he has great stuff!
|
| 12:27 |
Dan Szymborski: “You blew the game Joe, you’re sitting out there until you get 3 outs, even if you have to throw 200 pitches to do it.”
|
| 12:28 |
: Gotta save your best arms for opening day next year.
|
| 12:28 |
: it oddly still feels the dodgers could go off
|
| 12:28 |
Nick Dika: Ok, this is strange. Now Kenley comes in?
|
| 12:28 |
: So, JANSEN IS OK???
|
| 12:28 |
Dan Szymborski: You’re in a lot of trouble CJ!
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| 12:28 |
: did anyone else hear that “fire roberts” chant?
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| 12:29 |
: I know. I’M SO SORRY!!!
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| 12:29 |
: LA “Jay Grudens” Roberts and fires him at 5 am?
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| 12:29 |
Nick Dika: If the Phillies do fire Kapler, he’s likely up at 5am working out anyway.
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| 12:29 |
Dan Szymborski: Bad news CJ
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| 12:29 |
Dan Szymborski: 
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| 12:29 |
: Witness protection time CJ
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| 12:29 |
: Can the organist play Closing Time?
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| 12:30 |
: Who pitches the 10th for the Nats?
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| 12:30 |
Nick Dika: Doolittle warming.
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| 12:30 |
: “Organist” makes me think of a person who harvests organs for a living
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| 12:30 |
Dan Szymborski: Well, just playing the organ doesn’t pay the bills
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| 12:31 |
: Nick’s 12:01 comment did not age well.
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| 12:31 |
: I love how, to celebrate Howard J Kendrick III’s greatest moment of his career, they show a montage of terrible moments from in through this playoff series.
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| 12:31 |
Nick Dika: Joe Kelly will break your heart every single time.
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| 12:31 |
Dan Szymborski: At least I”ll get to bed before 3.
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| 12:32 |
Dan Szymborski: That’s probably not a comfort to the Dodgers fans.
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| 12:32 |
Dan Szymborski: But it’s a comfort to me.
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| 12:32 |
Nick Dika: You’re doing God’s work, Dan.
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| 12:32 |
Nick Dika: Dodgers fans – you get a full season of this team next year. PLUS Gavin Lux, Will Smith and Julio Urias.
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| 12:32 |
Dan Szymborski: A franchise-changing home run? Were the Nationals on the verge of switching to ice hockey?
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| 12:32 |
: Dan, give the Nats bullpen a chance to put a few guys on before saying that.
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| 12:32 |
: Don’t be so sure Dan, “Nationals Bullpen” still has time to uh, do its thing
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| 12:32 |
: Writing about baseball for a living, getting to bed before 3am… you can’t have it all
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| 12:33 |
Dan Szymborski: I know, I know, I’m not seriously complaining about my life!
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| 12:33 |
: Dan, as an expert troll yourself, how long do I have to wait before I go argue w/ Dodger fans on Twitter that Bumgarner >>> Kershaw because he can pitch in the clutch?
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| 12:33 |
Dan Szymborski: Why wait? A proper troll woudl do it BEFORE they ever play a game
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| 12:33 |
: Was he passing a kidney stone real quick?
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| 12:33 |
Nick Dika: This seems most probable.
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| 12:34 |
Nick Dika: Or at least it’s what I chose to believe.
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| 12:35 |
: Ace, do it now, capitalize on the frustration in the moment
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| 12:35 |
: So the ALCS is basically for all the marbles at this point right? No way the Cardinals or Nationals can hang in a 7 game series.
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| 12:35 |
Dan Szymborski: Actually, the True Troll would still taunt Bumgarner at this moment
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| 12:35 |
: Dan ..were the cats surprised by the kendrick home run?
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| 12:36 |
Dan Szymborski: Cats are all upstairs. None of ’em wanted to hang out with me. Cassiopeia brought me Hedge Fund to play with her with, but I did a halfassed job since I was concentrating on the game, so she picked up the hedgehog and left with it again.
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| 12:37 |
Dan Szymborski:
Clayton Kershaw’s already left his things in the locker room and hitched a ride away on a truck, like Jack Nicholson at the end of Five Easy Pieces.
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| 12:37 |
Dan Szymborski:
@DSzymborski More like Five Easy Pitches
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| 12:37 |
Dan Szymborski: haha
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| 12:37 |
: Sean doolittle has alloiwed 4 runs in a single outing 3 times this season
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| 12:37 |
Dan Szymborski: If he allows one run, Scherzer comes in
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| 12:38 |
: Whoah! Scherzer’s actually in the pen.
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| 12:38 |
Dan Szymborski: You gonna tell him no
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| 12:38 |
: Prediction: Has Dave Roberts managed his last game for the Dodgers?
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| 12:38 |
Dan Szymborski: No
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| 12:38 |
Nick Dika: He’s their guy.
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| 12:39 |
: re:Dave roberts getting fired. This isn’t the yankees
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| 12:39 |
: He might not get fired but how dumb was that move for Roberts though?
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| 12:39 |
Dan Szymborski: It was weird. Why let your season ride on Joe Kelly?
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| 12:40 |
Nick Dika: I didn’t think I’d be saying “Anibal Sanchez, game 1 starter” in 2019.
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| 12:40 |
Nick Dika: Anibal Sanchez Jr. maybe. But even that’s a stretch.
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| 12:40 |
: Did we ever see a replay or that Kershaw checkswing K?
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| 12:40 |
Dan Szymborski: No, though it’s a moot issue now
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| 12:40 |
: Buck Showalter is off the hook now at least
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| 12:40 |
: Baseball never isn’t great
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| 12:40 |
Dan Szymborski: Watch the first game?
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| 12:40 |
: Are we sure Scherzer won’t just decide to start game 1?
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| 12:40 |
: Subprime version of Kensley Jansen still >> Joe Kelly
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| 12:41 |
: $1 says Scherzer walked himself out to the bullpen because he wants it that bad
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| 12:41 |
Nick Dika: Is this the first red beard-on-red beard matchup this series?
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| 12:42 |
: Cardinals and Dodgers fans may disagree, but I believe this game was more entertaining than the first game today
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| 12:43 |
Dan Szymborski: Is the bullpen allowed to come out and celebrate with everyone?
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| 12:43 |
Nick Dika: Only Doolittle and Hudson are.
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| 12:43 |
Dan Szymborski: Are they REALLY going to go to replay?
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| 12:44 |
Nick Dika: Nats interestingly going with a six-man pitching rotation in the LCS
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| 12:44 |
: Replay?
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| 12:44 |
: FINAL in Los Angeles: WSH 7 – 3 LAD (F:10) Thank you Nick and Dan for chatting!
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| 12:45 |
: Thanks for chatting guys! Good luck with that preview Dan
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| 12:45 |
Dan Szymborski: OK, once again, thank you for joining us for the chat tonight!
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| 12:45 |
Nick Dika: Thanks, all! It was great chatting!
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| 12:45 |
Dan Szymborski: ZiPS *did* call it a coin flip coming into the series!
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