NLCS Game 1 Chat
8:02 |
: Greetings chatters and chat-readers
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8:03 |
: Because not ALL OF YOU are actually chatting. Some are reading the chats.
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8:03 |
: But does being a chatter require participation? Or is passive chatting allowed? That’s a philosophical question.
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8:04 |
: How do the Dodgers feel about the AJ Pollock contract right now?
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8:05 |
: I’m sure they’re not pleased as punch, but they can spend somewhat inefficiently and survive. And how many teams are better at getting use out of limited, underperforming players than the Dodgers?
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8:05 |
: As a Reds fan, I would have loved to see Joe Morgan play, but alas, he was before my time. Who is the one player from the past you would have most liked to see in person?
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8:05 |
: It’s cliche, but it’s gotta be Babe Ruth
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8:05 |
: i like TBS’ coverage much better than Fox’s.
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8:05 |
: And neither have A-Rod in the broadcast booth!
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8:07 |
: Hey Dan.. what’s for dinner and did you make enough for all of us? Perhaps it’s the internet famous Dan’s Beanless Chili? Mmmmmm
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8:08 |
: According to the neural network, I’m having ham and egg. Not ham and eggs. Apparently just one egg with the ham.
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8:08 |
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8:08 |
: Not looking forward to whatever the heck Wednesday is, but smooth saililng after!
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8:08 |
: I like the cardboard fans better
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8:08 |
: Which team has the edge in SP in this series?
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8:08 |
: In a long series, easily the Dodgers.
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8:09 |
: The Braves will be tested in a longer series.
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8:09 |
: Aloha, I am here!
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8:09 |
: Who is with you tonight Dan or are you flying solo?
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8:09 |
: AND TO SPEAK OF THE DEVIL!
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8:09 |
: Agreed w/LAD having the SP edge, but that ATL bullpen and offense can keep them afloat, they’re a live dog
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8:10 |
: Or, for you history buffs, 说曹操,曹操到
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8:10 |
: Re: SP Pitching Depth: Any idea what the Braves’ plan is for games 4 and (if necessary) 5?
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8:10 |
: Pull Smoltz from the booth?
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8:11 |
: FREEFGODDDD!!!
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8:11 |
: Smoltz >>>>>>> A-Rod
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8:11 |
: Even though A-Rod seems to actually still like baseball quite a lot, the nonsense ratio is just too high.
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8:11 |
: That would make you a Ham n Egger? kudos Bobby The Brain Heenan
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8:11 |
: Would Rays-Dodgers be more intriguing in the sense that it’s two franchises that have adopted almost identical approaches at different payrolls or because it’s the two best teams all season facing off?
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8:11 |
: BOTH, NEITHER
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8:12 |
: In a World Series, I just want two teams who have a real case to have been the best in their respective leagues.
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8:12 |
: No way Smoltz gets that many > over ARod
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8:12 |
: How about 4?
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8:12 |
: >>>>
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8:12 |
: I’m not going fewer than four.
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8:13 |
: Guest – I’m thinking Bryse Wilson for Game 4
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8:14 |
: Where do you gentlemen stand on the importance of defense at 1st base and should playing there hamper a player’s consideration for MVP?
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8:15 |
: It helps when you’re exemplary and can earn the trust of your IFs to make risky throws they know you’ll dig out, but average to slightly below doesn’t really move the needle, while being truly horrible should really hurt. All that said, Freeman is the easy MVP for me
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8:16 |
: Dan or Paul, if had the chance would you have gone as fan and sit in stands for series?
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8:16 |
: No.
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8:17 |
: Better safe than sorry. I have a close family member who is near 70 with bad asthma and while I have no known underlying illness, I am overweight.
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8:18 |
: Yeah I’m pretty reluctant, too. As much as I want to get back to “normal”, I’m not taking unnecessary risks
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8:18 |
: If I was determined to go, I would have asked for credentials. Fewer people than when you let some fans in.
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8:18 |
: Ben Clemens got to go for I think two games.
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8:18 |
: in Oakland.
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8:19 |
: Why on earth are the next two games of the ALCS starting at 8:40 EDT? Those games are going to end around 12:30 AM. There aren’t even that many people leaving work on the west coast this year!
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8:19 |
: A stupid decision by MLB? That’s weird.
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8:19 |
: Without rest days, there are fewer opportunities to stagger things
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8:19 |
: Also fair ^
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8:19 |
: But my thing too
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8:19 |
: there goes Dan Plesac with his Freddie Freeman Pearl Jam Salute.
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8:20 |
: I’ll just be honest, I was clicking on something else when Dan must’ve clicked something too so I’m not entirely sure what this relates to
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8:20 |
: Why not give Pache some at bats? If Braves ever get a big lead, I want him in over Markakis
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8:21 |
: How likely are they to really get any big leads v. a team like LAD?
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8:21 |
: Do you think they’ll aim to get Kenley, a low leverage inning in the next two nights?
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8:21 |
: Undoubtedly.
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8:21 |
: I’d be SHOCKED to see him in the next save sitch
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8:21 |
: What is your playoff beer of choice? If you’re not drinking beer, what’s your beverage of choice?
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8:22 |
: Sugarfree Red Bull, Cucumber & Blackberry La Croix, and water are pretty much all I drink
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8:22 |
: Modelo especial
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8:22 |
: Port Orleans watermelon kiwi gose
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8:22 |
: Here in New England the beverage of choice is apple cider.
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8:23 |
: I like apple cider, though I’ve been cutting back on the drinking.
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8:23 |
: Fried looked tough in that Betts at-bat.
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8:23 |
Who Ya Got?
LA in 4 (0% | 0 votes)
LA in 5 (16.3% | 15 votes)
LA in 6 (34.7% | 32 votes)
LA in 7 (13.0% | 12 votes)
ATL in 4 (2.1% | 2 votes)
ATL in 5 (4.3% | 4 votes)
ATL in 6 (16.3% | 15 votes)
ATL in 7 (13.0% | 12 votes)
Total Votes: 92
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8:23 |
: Haven’t had cucumber la croix. That sounds good
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8:23 |
: Parish Ghost in the Machine cause im elitist
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8:23 |
: Insert Corona joke here?
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8:25 |
: It’s really good, Deathstar. It’s become my sparkling water of choice. I definitely drink too much Red Bull so I’m trying to mix in more sparkling water so the Cuc/Blackberry La Croix and Waterloo Grape are my faves
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8:25 |
: if you were at the game you could be feasting on the Boom Stick.. a 2 foot hotdog covered in onions, chili and cheese. Worth the trip to park and your cardiologist
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8:25 |
: My beverage of choice used to be the tears of my enemies, but during the pandemic, for medical safety reasons, I’ve shifted to chocolate milk.
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8:25 |
: how much should that HR effect poll results?
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8:25 |
: My stomach gurgled just reading that
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8:25 |
: slightly
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8:25 |
: Very little
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8:25 |
: I don’t want to spend the game having diarrhea.
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8:25 |
: Though recency bias is a potent drug so it prob had an outsized impact
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8:26 |
: After the first two series I have to be shown that the Braves young pitchers can’t do the job.
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8:26 |
: LAD offense quite a bit differen than CIN/MIA, but I’m def giving them more credence after doubting them coming into the playoffs
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8:28 |
: Big thunderstorm line running through SW Ohio, if I disappear, it’s probably just my internet and I’m not dead.
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8:30 |
: As a dodgers fan I’m definitely worried about the Braves pitching
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8:30 |
: The pen is filthy. Looove Fried, too. He was a big breakout pick of mine for fantasy baseball this year
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8:30 |
: If the thought of a Boom Stick hot dog makes you queasy. Take a look at one presented in all its glory.. or gory-ness
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8:30 |
: Oh I’ve seen it
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8:31 |
: As a Braves fan, I’m worried about Fried throwing 25 pitches in the 1st inning.
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8:32 |
: Anytime a pitcher eclipses 25, it’s a concern, but we routinely see a rough 1st inning feel like it’s going to lead to a shortened outing and then they settle in for 6-7 strong innings
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8:32 |
: Def good for LAD even if they don’t score, though
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8:32 |
: The whiffff
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8:32 |
: Agree. Watched Glavine do it for years.
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8:33 |
: I’d be happy to have the 1-0 lead, but as Braves, not so happy it took Fried 28 pitches.
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8:33 |
: Fried being to be able to go deep in two games is something they really need in seven games.
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8:34 |
: Either they’re going to have to do a lot of short rest starts
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8:34 |
: or they’ll need likely a Bryse Wilson start *and* a bullpen game
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8:36 |
: Fried was definitely amped up for the inning. Fried rarely touches 97 unless he’s overthrowing his fastball, and he did that a few times that inning.
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8:36 |
: “Max Fried” seems like a pretty great name for a concession stand at Truist Field specializing in French Fries, Funnel Cakes, and other fine fried foods.
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8:36 |
: Frieds spin rate and break on that curve is filthy. I love it. I do not love 26 pitches
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8:37 |
: 1st inning always the toughest. 2nd will be key for Fried
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8:41 |
: Duvall looks like he’s in pain
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8:41 |
: That’s an oblique strain. He’s not gonna be back this series.
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8:42 |
: why not Pache?
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8:42 |
: Pache time tho
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8:42 |
: Not the ideal way for Pache to get his first postseason at bat.
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8:42 |
: Well I guess we’ll get to see Pache…
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8:43 |
: How much of the first inning often being toughest for SPs is just a product of necessarily facing the opposing team’s best hitters?
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8:43 |
: A major part of it
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8:45 |
: Since Braves beat Marlins, have they now inherited the “never lose postseason series” magic?
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8:45 |
: I’m not sure how the magic is transmitted
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8:46 |
: …are we really still calling things “sissy” in 2020?
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8:46 |
: I firmly believe that Buehlers super tight pants hinder his range of motion
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8:46 |
: We should probably go with a word these days that doesn’t have a sexual orientation link.
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8:46 |
: Wimpy? Wussy? We still need ways to be mean to each other, but in egalitarian ways!
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8:46 |
: Ya it’s not great. I get the context that he’s trying to convey by saying that blisters are decidedly not lame or weak even though they seem insignificant. Not a great word choice, though
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8:47 |
: I don’t think it’s a Thom Brennaman thing though.
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8:47 |
: Though I’d avoid the word.
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8:47 |
: Christian Pache now has a career 347 wRC+, making him even better than Arozarena.
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8:47 |
: superhero pants. They anchor him
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8:47 |
: I thought we were avoiding magic transmission this season — that’s why we have all the protocols.
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8:48 |
: Ooooook… I twitter searched sissy to see if people were talking about Smoltz and immediately regretted it. Do not do that.
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8:48 |
: Nonsense, do you think MASKS WOULD HAVE STOPPED GANDALF?
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8:48 |
: A lot of orcs wore helmets.
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8:49 |
: No, the way it works is that Gandalf wearing a mask would mean he wouldn’t transmit his magic to others.
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8:49 |
: N95 level helmets
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8:50 | : |
8:50 |
: Off topic commercial questions: are you playing the next WoW expansion Dan?
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8:50 |
: Of course
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8:50 |
: Ha, I forgot to enter my name. No sense being witty if you can’t take credit.
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8:51 |
: Ah jeez, did you hear about poor Tommy Pham? Apparently got stabbed today. He’s fine now, but that must have been unpleasant.
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8:52 |
: Joe Buck – good announcer or overrated?
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8:52 |
: I think neither. He’s a vanilla play-by-play guy who is probably just rated at this point.
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8:52 |
: Solid
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8:52 |
: He’s not awful, but he’s average and dependable and rarely says anything crazily stupid that gets you focusing on him rather than the game.
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8:53 |
: Used to REALLY dislike him as I thought he went through a period when he couldn’t have cared less about the games he was doing. You’d hear his voice perk up just to do an NFL promo. But that was years ago. I think he’s perfectly capable now.
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8:53 |
: We’re you guys surprised that the White Sox let Rick Renteria go? I thought the White Sox has a very successful season.
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8:53 |
: I was… keeps getting screwed in Chicago
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8:53 |
: Hinch to CWS, in my opinion
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8:53 |
: I’m surprised in that I don’t think teams usually let go average managers after good seasons.
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8:53 |
: But I’m not against the result.
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8:54 |
: There are a *lot* of people who have the qualifications to manage an MLB team. If you can’t find reasons *for* a guy, just reasons *not to fire* a guy, I’d say that guy isn’t good enough.
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8:54 |
: Teams, especially rebuilding ones, have the luxury of finding their dream marriage.
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8:54 |
: (And the White Sox aren’t really rebuilding anymore, but they’re early in their run)
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8:55 |
: If Hinch goes to CWS, and Cora to BOS (presumably?), who goes to DET?
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8:55 |
: Wait is Cora supposed to go back to BOS?
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8:55 |
: Kinda how I felt about Gardenhire with the Tigers. He’s likeable and never really got in the way of the team’s development, but when the Tigers are competitive, is Gardy really ever likely to be the DREAM MATCH?
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8:56 |
: That’s been the buzz, but who knows at this point.
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8:56 |
: I don’t really have a problem with a team hiring Hinch or Luhnow. They committed baseball crimes, not like real-life crimes, so I think serving their time *is* enough for me.
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8:56 |
: Renteria absolutely bungled his bullpen management in the playoffs. I think it was a bit unfair, but they could hire whoever the Rays bench coach is and they’d probably be better.
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8:57 |
: How would hiring Hinch play in the clubhouse?
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8:57 |
: I don’t think as bad as people might think.
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8:57 |
: Agreed
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8:57 |
: Hinch baseball crime wasn’t as a mover of the cheating, it was as someone who didn’t want to rat on his players.
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8:58 |
: Wait, are you saying Dusty Baker was the “dream marriage” for 5 different MLB franchises?
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8:58 |
: Even if him tattling to MLB immediately and cutting off the plan quickly would have been better for baseball, I think the reaction from players would be worse.
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8:58 |
: In certain positions, Dusty Baker *is* the dream marriage.
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8:58 |
: Dusty is an amazing manager for a certain type of team.
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8:58 |
: He’s pretty well regarded. And honestly, apart from those who are still hung up on the Prior/Wood stuff, he’s pretty solid IMO
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8:58 |
: A veteran team in which shit has fallen apart. Dusty can get that all back together again in the short-term.
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8:59 |
: Yanking Dunning in the 1st of Game 3 was enough for me to question his baseball acumen.
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8:59 |
: It was a bit too cute
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8:59 |
: Dusty’s the cleanup crew. Clean up the mess Matt Williams left. Clean up the mess of the Trashcananigans.
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9:00 |
: Dusty seems like a great player’s manager
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9:00 |
: 100% ^
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9:00 |
: Now, you don’t keep the cleanup crew around to plot your corporate strategy.
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9:00 |
: Do you really want to hire Hinch, a guy who got, at the minimum, walked over like that? I’d be appalled.
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9:00 |
: Appalled? Really? Interesting.
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9:01 |
: I think he’ll be looked at as a players’ guy for that.
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9:01 |
: Remember, Jose Reyes *teammates* nominated him for a humanitarian award
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9:01 |
: People make the mistake of thinking players and elitist sports journalist Twitter think identically
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9:01 |
: Jose Reyes threatened his teammates… then..
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9:02 |
: Hinch’s baseball crime was also that he didn’t stop the cheating when he could have. He’s accepted responsibility for that, so I think it’ll be easier for him to get back in the game once his suspension is over.
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9:02 |
: If he were *actively* aiding or planning it, I think it would have been harder.
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9:02 |
: If you don’t think the difference between sportswriters and players in opinion isn’t a gulf, just look at the COVID-19 opinion gulf.
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9:03 |
: Look at the percentage of writers who How Dare They Have a Season compared to the number of players who actually opted out once the salary stuff was worked out.
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9:03 |
: I thought trash cans were meant to do the cleaning up
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9:03 |
: Things can be more than one thing!
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9:03 |
: I HATE the don Mattingly manager of the year buzz that is all over the place he literally blew the most important part of the season
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9:04 |
: I did not have an award vote this year, but if I did and had manager, I would not have placed him on my ballot.
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9:04 |
: I don’t think the players would mind, but Hinch was a doormat. I’d hire him for the front office, but I just couldn’t trust him to actually manage players. And Cora was actively aiding or planning it, so I’m just so surprised teams would be willing to turn over the keys do both of them.
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9:04 |
: isn’t it based on Reg season?
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9:04 |
: I think John means the Cavoidance.
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9:07 |
: Cora should notbe allowed to manage again so soon. He still hasn’t even come clean on all he did. He is not someone who should ever be respected again.
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9:07 |
: A
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9:07 |
: B
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9:07 |
: C
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9:09 |
: What exactly did Mattingly do that was so bad?
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9:09 |
: What’s the concern level with Gavin Lux compared with the beginning of the season?
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9:09 |
: Like 2-5% higher at most
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9:09 |
: Was gonna let chatter respond re: Mattingly, btw
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9:10 |
vote on whether to play after getting positive covid test results
: He let the team |
9:10 |
: The last few Buehler starts I’ve noticed he’ll reach to his left hand near the base of his glove in between pitches. Are foreign substances not policed anymore?
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9:11 |
: Are they ever really? Basically as long as you don’t have nine pounds of it on your neck like Pineda
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9:12 |
: Kimbrel’s had that shitstain on his hat forever and no one says a word
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9:13 |
: Mattingly is just not a good manager IMO. Hard to see how he actually made the team better. SSS and some timely performances turned a not good team into a fine team.
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9:16 |
: Yeah some pretty good pitching drove it along w/the RISP hitting (113 wRC+, 10th in MLB)
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9:16 |
: why aren’t foreign substances policed then?
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9:17 |
: The idea is that if you tell on a team, you tell on yourself. And pitchers are given some leeway bc batters would rather they have enough grip to not dome them but of course some take it too far
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9:17 |
: Fried’s breaking stuff is breaking.
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9:17 |
: So long as the foreign substance allows a pitcher to grip the ball better, I think hitters are ok with it. No one wants to get nailed by a pitch because the ball slips out of the pitcher’s hand.
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9:18 |
: Anyone think Bauer might’ve been using more than normal accepted substance this year? His spin rate soared and he basically said the only way to do that is to use something
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9:18 |
: Nasty last two pitches to Muncy. Slow curve and 97 up and away. That’s an unhittable combo. You’ll see that on Pitch Ninja tomorrow.
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9:20 |
: YES. BAUER was USING. (grippy stuff)
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9:20 |
: It seemed like Bauer figured out the optimal mix or something
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9:20 |
: Fried and Buehler both at 57 pitches through 3, which is a bit of a recovery for Fried and a surprise for Buehler. Who’s worse off?
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9:20 |
: Pitching Ninja’s YT is MUST watch
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9:20 |
: Buehler was inefficient last start too, IIRC
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9:21 |
: I’d say Buehler
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9:21 |
: I worry about jinxing him. But Fried putting on a clinic that last inning.
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9:21 |
: Hypothetically, if Soroka was healthy and played the entire year and was pretty much the same pitcher as last year, are the Dodgers still a pretty heavy favorite in this series?
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9:21 |
: Depends what you mean by heavy
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9:21 |
: WAIT, I ACTUALLY HAVE PROJECTION STUFF
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9:21 |
: I CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS STUFF
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9:22 |
: ZiPS starts it at Dodgers 61 Braves 39
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9:22 |
: They’d prob still be a favorite, but I’d be surprised if they were HEAVY
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9:22 |
: If I go Soroka Fried Anderson Wright Bullpen Soroka Fried
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9:23 |
: that is some pretty flawed logic. why is it against the rules if everyone is ok with it?
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9:23 |
: Dodgers go down to 56/44
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9:23 |
: It’s just deciding the cut-off point. I’m just tellin ya how it is, not saying I agree w/it one way or the other
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9:23 |
: Please tell me Dan is doing this in his head.
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9:23 |
: no way!
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9:23 |
: assuming Duvall is out, what move could the Braves make? They have 4 OF on roster, 5 if you count Riley
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9:23 |
: Dodgers Win in Four 8.1% Dodgers Win in Five 15.1% Dodgers Win in Six 16.4% Dodgers Win in Seven 17.0% Rays Win 56.49% Braves Win in Four 4.7% Braves Win in Five 10.2% Braves Win in Six 14.6% Braves Win in Seven 14.0% Astros Win 43.51%
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9:23 |
: oops
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9:23 |
: It just becomes Pache starting, no? LFC Mike
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9:24 |
: Not sure who’s on deck to fill his spot
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9:24 |
: Dodgers Win in Four 8.1% Dodgers Win in Five 15.1% Dodgers Win in Six 16.4% Dodgers Win in Seven 17.0% Dodgers Win 56.49% Braves Win in Four 4.7% Braves Win in Five 10.2% Braves Win in Six 14.6% Braves Win in Seven 14.0% Braves Win 43.51%
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9:24 |
: Camargo gets called up.
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9:24 |
: Not Inciarite?
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9:25 |
: Threw an extra I in there
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9:25 |
: Inciarte is on the outs in Atlanta.
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9:25 |
: Sure, but they have a clear need
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9:25 |
: Wouldn’t Contreras be on the table for them to have Ozuna LF, Flowers C, Travis DH a possibility?
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9:25 |
: Could see that
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9:26 |
: Can’t actually have Ozuna in LF during the playoffs, right?
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9:26 |
: Ah, they COULD
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9:26 |
: But Riley works
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9:26 |
: I neural networked my prospective dinners earlier. So now I did it for Paul.
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9:26 |
: Riley played LF last year. He’s fine out there.
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9:26 |
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9:26 |
: You know what would be cool? Bauer Units on the Statcast page on Fangraphs.
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9:27 |
: Buehler’s pretty clearly got a goal about where he puts his pitches to Swanson.
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9:27 |
: I do not get this pitch sequencing from Buehler
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9:27 |
: Wait what’s this? I definitely need some more dinner ideas
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9:27 |
: More of my neural network nonsense.
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9:27 |
: that’s wild bc my gf & I have a google doc of dinner ideas
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9:27 |
: Hope you like butternut squash and sweet potatoes!
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9:27 |
: i should add these and make it look like i did work
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9:28 |
: Dansbasestealer
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9:28 |
: I was thinking Soroka would shift it about 5 points. Nice to know ZiPs agreed with me.
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9:28 |
: Whom do you like in Yarbrough vs. Urquidy tomorrow?
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9:28 |
: I’m a big Urq fan
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9:29 |
: Buehler laboring
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9:29 |
: This run gave you more meat.
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9:29 |
Paul Sporer’s Dinners
: Monday: Chicken Marsala with Parmesan potatoes. Tuesday: Melted tomato and basil pie. Wednesday: Carne asada with chipotle rice and green beans. Thursday: Pasta with sundried tomato sauce, shrimp and asparagus. Friday: Swiss steak with mashed potatoes. |
9:29 |
: but Markakis is a free out
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9:29 |
: well she doesn’t eat meat so the first is prob better lol
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9:29 |
: The Rookie Pache showing some good plate discipline.
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9:29 |
: Okay, I thought Buehler had a plan just against Swanson but he seems to be putting it in the same spot against Pache.
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9:29 |
: Dan <== had a pocket protector and slide rule when he was a younger lad…
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9:29 |
: No way!
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9:30 |
: I was about as forgettable and generic as you can imagine.
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9:30 |
: I doubt 95% of people in my high school class had any positive or negative impression of me.
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9:30 |
: Historically, using foreign substances was banned for two reasons. The first, because pine tar made the baseballs brown. The second reason was because slippery stuff allowed the ball to slip out of the pitcher’s hand (lower the spin rate in modern terms). If it slipped too much, pitchers could lose control.
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9:30 |
: and you still are dan!
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9:31 |
: 😭😭
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9:31 |
: You weren’t *that* outspoken libertarian kid?
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9:31 |
: No
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9:31 |
: After elementary school, I learned to not torment the other kids.
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9:31 |
: Pache is a walk machine in the playoffs. 100% guaranteed.
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9:31 |
: Pache looks so much like a young Andruw Jones, it’s nearly uncanny.
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9:32 |
: Looks like another one of those weird 4 innings, 7 strikeouts, 0 runs starts for Buehler!
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9:32 |
: Paul I was thinking from the offensive side of the Duvall injury as I don’t believe Pache can bring that kind of power? but is definitely fine defensively
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9:33 |
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9:33 |
: I have been wondering if bauer’s (likely) use of foreign substance in such a flagrant way is a long game scheme to shame mlb into policing them better and thus cutting down on strikeouts
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9:33 |
: Haha, like you can shame MLB.
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9:33 |
: Why does the mlb at bat app get worse year to year? It does right? I’m not crazy? This year’s issue seems to be forgetting what happened to the last batter.
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9:34 |
: The technology stuff taht the statcast crew doesn’t have a had in tends to get a little worse every year, IMO.
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9:34 |
: Like in the old days in MLB.TV, you coudl actually click on a play in the game log and get taken to that play in the replay
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9:34 |
: So many usability things have gotten worse in MLBAM
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9:34 |
: Shaming any North American sports league is a tall order.
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9:35 |
: Man how did the Braves score so many dang runs with so many low-OBP guys? A lot of PAs for Duvall, Riley…of course, the top half of the lineup all hit like all-timers.
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9:35 |
: They led the NL in OBP!
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9:35 |
: I was gonna say, they had great OBPs
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9:35 |
: Dan.. what if the neural network had your Friday night dinner as chili with beans? You can’t go against the neural network right? A time space continuum thing I assume.
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9:35 |
: I would eat nothing since there is no such thing!
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9:36 |
: It’s wild. They have half their lineup with .400+ OBPs and the other half with .300 or below.
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9:36 |
: But the low OBP dudes mostly have power!
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9:36 |
: TdA, Freef, Dansby, Ozuna, Acuña all great OBPs
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9:37 |
: Of the starters, only Inciarte this year was really of the Mostly Useless variety.
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9:37 |
: Fried’s curveball is the prettiest pitch in baseball. Who cares about most effective, that thing is hot
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9:38 |
: Joe “Lipstick” Kelly. I dig it.
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9:39 |
: That curve is carving the Dodger’s lefties.
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9:44 |
: This isn’t even Fried at his sharpest. Still nasty
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9:44 |
: Paul appears to be a foodie, per that thing you used.
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9:45 |
: Just because Fried’s curveball (wxOBA .227) is less effective than his changeup (wxOBA .187) or his slider (wxOBA .215) does not detract from its beauty.
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9:45 |
: Pitches also set up other pitches
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9:45 |
Buehler on a short leash third time through the order? |
9:46 |
: I imagine so.
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9:46 |
: Unless he goes 6 pitches 3 outs, I expect this to be his last inning and maybe even if he does.
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9:47 |
: Buehler would be on a short leash 3rd time through even if he wasn’t running up pitches
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9:47 |
: I guess if the Braves managed to get multiple runners on for Duvall and Albies and the other guys with lower OBPs but power that would work. But Markakis, Inciarte, Camargo, and to a lesser extent Riley do not look very useful from here.
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9:47 |
: i am very impressed by what Fried is serving up there. All the breaking balls are sharp.
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9:47 |
: Braves have let some good scoring chances go
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9:47 |
: Would you let Buehler pitch the 5th?
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9:47 |
: Yes 🙂
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9:48 |
: Man, Freeman was close there
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9:48 |
: Dang, Ozuna missed 88 there
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9:48 |
: Effective velo up in the zone
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9:48 |
: RIPPEDDD
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9:48 |
: Solid 5th for Buehler there
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9:48 |
: Helluva game going on here
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9:48 |
: Effectively Wild©
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9:48 |
: Ozuna has been cfrushing balls just right at people
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9:49 |
: Love healthy Ozuna
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9:49 |
: Hell, even compromised Ozuna is still usually a bit above avg, but he’s a superstar when fully healthy
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9:52 |
: THIS GAME IS TIED!!
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9:52 |
: Hernandez OBLITERATED that, wow!
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9:53 |
: Is there a worse baseball commercial in history than the Aaron’s way one?
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9:53 |
: I don’t really find it that objectionable. I like that they’re showcasing Judge. Cheesy commercials w/athletes are just part of the whole thing. Better than not seeing stars marketed
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9:55 |
: One too many curve balls in a row.
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9:55 |
: Listen, I know it’s unreasonable and it has absolutely zero effect on what happens, but I get so mad when announcers mention a streak.
|
9:55 |
chestcrotchbump in the dugout? Never seen that one before.
: Did Kike and Turner just celebrate with a |
9:55 |
: That’s fair. It’s probably just that I grow to hate any commercial I have seen 100 times
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9:56 |
: Exactly, hard for even the best ones to maintain viability after the billionth watch
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9:56 |
: All of sudden, Fried has a chance to get through five under 85 pitches
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9:57 |
: The Fried-Giolito-Flaherty high school tidbit has replaced Kershaw & Stafford in high school as the most over-mentioned tidbit in baseball
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9:57 |
: Hmm, Fried getting hit hard all of a sudden …
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9:58 |
: Three well struck there. I’m not against them going to their strong pen here. Otherwise, a real tight leash if he does come back out
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9:59 |
: Was so afraid that after Freeman got narrowly nabbed at first and Ozuna hit a rocket “at-em”, that the Dodgers would take advantage of the missed opportunity. Of course they go yard
|
9:59 |
: Man, I love me some healthy Corey Seager
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9:59 |
: Helluva game going here. Both SPs have bent but not broken.
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10:00 |
: As was said earlier, the Dodgers aren’t the Reds or the Marlins. Their players can actually hit.
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10:00 |
: Fried met the match, eager to see if Anderson & Wright can, too
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10:00 |
: Dodgers got bored of running up the pitch count, and said let’s swing
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10:00 |
: It worked to tie it and could’ve done even more w/a little good fortune
|
10:01 |
: Who is surprised to see Buehler out there for another?
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10:01 |
: I am!
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10:01 |
: Announcer jinx, Buehler drops one RIGHT down the pipe right as they’re talking about how much life he has on his heater
|
10:02 |
: A bit, but not entirely
|
10:02 |
: Roberts not averse to trusting his guy and he was sub-100 pitches
|
10:02 |
: Could be his last batter here
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10:03 |
: DEFINITELY his last batter now, right?
|
10:03 |
: Great play by Betts
|
10:03 |
: Wow nice job by Betts holding that to a single
|
10:03 |
: What a play by Betts
|
10:03 |
: have we talked about Beuhlers tight-pants? I’m into them
|
10:03 |
: I think tight pants were mentioned earlier
|
10:05 |
: Great pitchers going against great offenses.
|
10:05 |
: The playoffs in a nutshell
|
10:09 |
: There’s a reason why the Braves had a high BABIP. They hit away from the shift.
|
10:09 |
: It’s easier said than done!
|
10:09 |
: Is Graterol a multi-inning guy?
|
10:10 |
: Certainly can be yes
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10:10 |
: Impressive job by Graterol
|
10:12 |
: I’ve watched a lot of Braves this year and that kind of start to an inning was squandered quite frequently it felt like. Would be interested in the numbers.
|
10:14 |
: Dan, just realizing we haven’t had a cat update!
|
10:14 |
: Justinian’s hanging out with me.
|
10:14 |
: The other three are all asleep somewhere upstairs!
|
10:14 |
: I ahven’t been up there in three hours.
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10:15 |
: Fraggle Rock is throwing.
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10:17 |
: May warming up in the pen? Who starts game three then?
|
10:17 |
: TBD
|
10:17 |
: Gonsolin
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10:18 |
: There’s no way the Braves bring back Markakis for yet another year, right?
|
10:18 |
: No way
|
10:18 |
: What would it take for you to attend one of these games in person?
|
10:18 |
: Not *that* much
|
10:19 |
: Hey, is Fangraphs gonna do the worst called strike, worst called ball and worst swinging strike of the year again?
|
10:20 |
: Worst called strike.. the FG Joe West award
|
10:21 |
: It was such a weird year that we weren’t going to to those awards type things
|
10:21 |
: What are the chances Braves try to squeeze another out or two out of Fried? Or do they have their 7th-8th-9th plan set?
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10:22 |
: I don’t think they’ll go set game plan with the game tied
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10:24 |
: 6’6″ 180, ha! This is America dude, he was peobably 180 when drafted
|
10:26 |
: what’s wrong with that body type????
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10:27 |
: Raise your hand if you foresaw Fried lasting longer than Buehler after 1 IP
|
10:27 |
: I mean I did bc I didn’t put TOO much weight on the first inning
|
10:31 |
: I certainly didn’t!
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10:37 |
: Which team is better equipped if this game goes into extras?
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10:37 |
: Atl IMO, deeper pen
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10:37 |
: Plus LAD is using their multi-inn. guys right now
|
10:38 |
: Buck and Smoltz are marvelling about the size of stadiums in Texas so much it almost feels inappropriate.
|
10:38 |
: I’m nervous about Jansen’s potential role in this game
|
10:38 |
: LOL
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10:38 |
: If it’s pitching, you should be nervous!
|
10:38 |
: Understandably, but they can’t just avoid him completely
|
10:38 |
: I hae much disdain for all 4 remaining ML teams. The Braves robbed Dade County, the Astros aabotaged generations of player salaries, the Dodgers bragged about drppping payroll, and the Rays are holding their hands out looking for their own free stadium
|
10:38 |
: Eh, if those are restrictions, you might as well just give up on sports as a whole
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10:42 |
: Agreed, mostly in it because American culture fascinates me
|
10:42 |
: Braves – Cobb County
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10:42 |
: Good thing Read with British Accent isn’t a Man Utd. Fan
|
10:42 |
: I also watch for the players….This stuff takes skill! Dedication!
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10:44 |
: I watch for the storylines
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10:44 |
: I WATCH FOR THE PICTURES
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10:45 |
: whoompf
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10:45 |
: Which Will Smith is the better baseball-man?
|
10:45 |
: Catcher
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10:46 |
: Even with 30 guesses, I wouldn’t have guessed Sandoval was a Brave. I’d have guessed SF twice
|
10:46 |
: Pablo Sandoval!
|
10:46 |
: Pablo Sandoval is still in the Majors?
|
10:46 |
: PANDA SIGHTING
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10:46 |
: Sandoval huh
|
10:46 |
: Intentional walk…why???
|
10:46 |
: Intentionaly walking Dansby Swanson seems like it can literaly never be good idea
|
10:46 |
: Because you’d rather face Pache or Pablo?
|
10:46 |
: Ah, long time Braves player Pablo Sandoval in the biggest AB of their season
|
10:46 |
: The beauty and wildness of baseball. Can’t always put your best players in the toughest spots
|
10:47 |
: Pablo Sandoval is playing in the 2020 postseason
|
10:47 |
: This is a twist
|
10:47 |
: YIKES a HBP!
|
10:47 |
: To paraphrase a famous sage. “I don’t believe what I am seeing?”
|
10:47 |
: And the Kung Fu Panda delivers! With a HBP!
|
10:47 |
: Well that was anti climactic
|
10:47 |
: Great Roger Dorn impersonation by Sandoval
|
10:48 |
: What kind of upside does May have? Feel like hes been getting his balls washed all year
|
10:48 |
: He has pretty premium upside
|
10:48 |
: Needs a swing and miss pitch to put up results as good as just seeing him on Pitching Ninja makes ppl believe he is, but the upside is substantial
|
10:49 |
: Wait, Pablo Sandoval is on the Braves?
|
10:49 |
: Yup, the Giants released him and he signed with the Braves
|
10:50 |
: PANDA FOR LIFE
|
10:50 |
: Look at this fearsome Braves bench
|
10:51 |
: Getting one’s balls washed is bad?
|
10:51 |
: I’ve come full circle
|
10:51 |
: how is dansby swanson both on 2nd base and currently batting?!
|
10:51 |
: I’m so confused. We don’t have enough OFers for this
|
10:52 |
: Acuña-Riley-Ozuna?
|
10:53 |
: Where does league average fastball velocity compare to average fastball velocity from 10 years ago? Seems like every team has a bullpen of flamethrowers now.
|
10:53 |
: It’s up 2 ticks league wide which is pretty massive
|
10:53 |
: Up nearly 2.5 mph for RPs
|
10:53 |
: Culberson plays a good corner outfield.
|
10:53 |
: What happens to the DH if Ozuna plays OF?
|
10:54 |
: Forgot he’s DH’ing… probably Culberson as Hugh mentions
|
10:54 |
: This is quite a good game
|
10:54 |
: *EXHALE*
|
10:54 |
: When will we see the first 110mph fastball? Is there a limit?
|
10:54 |
: Think we’re about at the limit
|
10:54 |
: Riley-Acuna-Culberson is the move, with Sandoval at third.
|
10:54 |
: Yeah for sure. Forgot O was DH’ing
|
10:55 |
: Desppite velocity being dirt cheap and common, every broadcast has to point out every 100 MPH pitch. Show me a pitcher not scared to throw his breaking stuff in the strike zone!
|
10:55 |
: Velo is still the single best thing a pitcher can have to generate success
|
10:55 |
: It adds margin for error that nothing else can
|
10:56 |
: should the red sox be bummed they got verdugo/downs instead of Graterol?
|
10:57 |
: Not at all, I’d prefer the duo they got
|
10:57 |
: The home plate umpire is Pat Hoberg who only has 4 years experience but he has been quite good tonight.
|
10:59 |
: Odds we see Will Smith face Will Smith today?
|
11:00 |
: Low as he’s 3 batters away and RP Smith only went >1 inn. once this yr and it was 1.3 IP
|
11:00 |
: Whats the proper pronunciation of Fried is it Fry(d) or Free(d)?
|
11:00 |
: Think Turner is back with LAD next year?
|
11:00 |
: Freed
|
11:00 |
: I think they’ll agree.
|
11:01 |
: Maybe
|
11:01 |
: Turner is SOOO good, but he’s 36 and they have Seager/Lux for the left side
|
11:01 |
: Who called a 1-1 game heading into the ninth (plz no jinx)
|
11:01 |
: I don’t know that anyone called it, but it’s not overly surprising w/2 stud SPs and the great pens both have
|
11:02 |
: they would certainly get jiggy with it
|
11:02 |
: You have to leave now
|
11:02 |
: Dan. Does the neural network have any snacks for us? It’s getting late.
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11:02 |
: OK!
|
11:02 |
: It’s the rule lol
|
11:02 |
: I just made some Annie’s mac n cheese
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11:04 |
: I can see Turner making a permanent shift to 1B from next year..
|
11:05 |
: I could, too, but then is he a fit in LAD anymore at that point?
|
11:05 |
: Ew
|
11:05 |
: Ew to mac n cheese? Boooooo
|
11:05 |
: Which flavor annies?
|
11:05 |
: Orange box shells & cheese
|
11:06 |
: Maybe the Blue Jays make sense for Turner? Could use help at either corner
|
11:06 |
: Isn’t their IF locked up w/Vlad-Biggio-Bichette-Shaw?
|
11:06 |
: No! I posted that “ew” way before you talked about Mac & Cheese
|
11:06 |
: My bad
|
11:07 |
: RIIIILLLLEEEYYYYY
|
11:07 |
: CRUSHED
|
11:07 |
: Riled up!
|
11:07 |
: Riley!!!!
|
11:07 |
: Swear word
|
11:07 |
: He who hits the most HR’s wins
|
11:07 |
: BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
|
11:07 |
: lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
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11:11 |
: That’ll Rile things up!
|
11:11 |
: My boy Riley!!!! Never doubted him 😂
|
11:11 |
: I mean…we’re used to this by now!
|
11:11 |
: Riley E. Coyote!
|
11:11 |
: Acuña matata! Causing LOTS of worry.
|
11:11 |
: Did everyone leave? Got awfully quiet…
|
11:11 |
: That’s a HR at dodger stadium, it should count
|
11:12 |
: … Just missed, Freddie.
|
11:12 |
: Man, Freeman almost iced it
|
11:12 |
: Unless Vlad Jr. starts taking his conditioning seriously there might be an opening at corner for Toronto
|
11:12 |
: They may force Vlad at 1B, though, with Tellez lookin like the DH
|
11:12 |
: Don’t be hard on Blake, he’s Treinen his best.
|
11:12 |
: ok you have to leave, too, sorry thems the rules
|
11:13 |
: Will Roberts get replaced if Dodgers don’t get to WS, let alone win it?
|
11:13 |
: I’d think so, yes
|
11:13 |
: That’s fair, I’ll show myself out, Paul.
|
11:13 |
: LOL, I just love using that joke, but tbh I love puns and that one was sharp
|
11:13 |
: Cito’s mustache better be a dad…
|
11:14 |
should someone check on him? |
11:14 |
: Sorry, had to go to the bathroom.
|
11:14 |
: I’ve been in this chair for 5 hours without a break!
|
11:14 |
: Dan? You there?
|
11:14 |
: you’ve been sitting??
|
11:15 |
: Well I’m not using one of those standing desks!
|
11:15 |
: Man, I love Ozuna
|
11:15 |
: Dodgers fans were so busy worrying about Jansen they forgot to worry about Treinen
|
11:15 |
: Acuna makes baseball so much fun to watch
|
11:15 |
: Why would you fire Roberts?
|
11:15 |
I would, but the Dodgers will
: Not necessarily saying |
11:16 |
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11:16 |
: Every Dodger pitcher throws 100mph and I’m not sure Smith has actually called for a high fastball at any point
|
11:16 |
: This is unfortunate
|
11:16 |
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11:16 |
: Why do players do that..stirring the bowl thing after a hit? I love bat flips and fist pumps, but that’s stupid.
|
11:16 |
: Bathroom? True fans wear diapers during playoff games!
|
11:17 |
: Think it was started in the NBA because they’re cookin’
|
11:17 |
: I’m a grown man, I use a bathroom.
|
11:17 |
: Dan where do you get these images/gifs?
|
11:17 |
: The Braves one is from reddit.
|
11:17 |
: The Braves GIF I made from videos.
|
11:17 |
: 95% of the things I post are from me.
|
11:17 |
: But the Braves cards like the Acuna thing were reddit.
|
11:17 |
: Ronald as a trash panda? 👍👍
|
11:17 |
: Its been the braves thing this year. Mix it up.
|
11:18 |
: In fairness, it’s been an all of sports thing for a few years now
|
11:18 |
: Not at all original to the Braves
|
11:18 |
: Snacks Dan? We are your guests?
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11:18 |
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11:18 |
: Oh yeah snack!
|
11:19 |
: A run was scored not via a HR. Is that allowed these days? Is is like half a run instead?
|
11:19 |
: I’m not eating any snacks though.
|
11:19 |
: I’m trying to eat fairly lightly, I was pretty violently ill for several hours on Saturday
|
11:19 |
: I feel like the Braves are the only team left without a story. Rays have the low-salary underdog story, Dodgers feel like they are winning back their deserved 2017 win, Astros are the villains, Braves are the ________?
|
11:19 |
: recovering from Copallela’s mega cheating scandal?
|
11:19 |
: THE TEAM WITH RONALD ACUNA
|
11:19 |
: I dare anyone to name a snack better than cheese popcorn.
|
11:20 |
: For movies, I like a good sour patch kid
|
11:20 |
: Between AB commercials need to go away
|
11:20 |
: Pepperoni popcorn
|
11:20 |
: Jake McGee has thrown ~97% 4seamers. Who else approaches that usage?
|
11:21 |
: is popcorn a sandwich?
|
11:21 |
: Are you doing drugs guys?
|
11:21 |
: IT’S ALL BEES BABY
|
11:21 |
: NO, STOP IT
|
11:21 |
: sandwiches are sandwiches, that’s it
|
11:21 |
: hate that stupid shit lol
|
11:21 |
: ALLLLLLBBBIIIIEEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
11:21 |
: wow I legit completely forgot about coppolella lol
|
11:21 |
: Copious amounts
|
11:21 |
: Do you guys see Albies give the pouty eyes on that check swing strike call?
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11:21 |
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11:21 |
: SEE YA
|
11:21 |
: DONG PART 2
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11:21 |
: OZHAINO
|
11:21 |
: Albies!!!! Woooooo
|
11:21 |
: Melancon caught Ozzie’s HR
|
11:22 |
: Plot twist: the back end of the Dodgers bullpen is actually.. bad?
|
11:22 |
: Record most likely to not be broken in baseball – most sacrifice bunts in a season – 67 by Ray Chapman
|
11:24 |
: haha, I think their pen is still good overall, but this Braves offense is no joke
|
11:24 |
: More swear words
|
11:24 |
: Nice and easy swing, Ozzie Albies. Bringing a lefty to pitch to Ozzie? Big mistake Dave Roberts.
|
11:24 |
: Runs scored via a HR .. all is right with the world.
|
11:24 |
: ALBIES!!!!!! from the right side is unstoppable!
|
11:24 |
: that escalated quickly
|
11:24 |
: Is this a bullpen?
|
11:25 |
: For LFC Mike, the worst snacks.
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11:25 |
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11:25 |
: Dan. Have you explained to Paul the intricacies of hinged vs. unhinged bread as it relates to sandwiches?
|
11:25 |
: I need to be way drinker to go onto that.
|
11:25 |
: Is there a more talented, young and fun duo than Albies and Acuna in the bigs? Judge and Stanton but both are pretty stiff? Tatis and Machado are close but Machado still has a lot of people feeling in a way.
|
11:25 |
: Love the Ozzie and Ronnie show
|
11:26 |
: (I know I should keep quiet, but I alreaday can see Kershaw pitching in relief later in the series..)
|
11:26 |
: Ray Chapman was also killed by a pitch from Carl Mayes in 1920.
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11:26 |
: Billy Mays was killed in a pitch for Chap Stick.
|
11:26 |
: OK, I made that up
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11:27 |
: Paul. Never tried the Annie’s. Good I take it?
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11:28 |
: Butterfinger wafers? Ugh.. and the worst candy bar of all time.
|
11:28 |
: Looove Annie’s Mac & Cheese
|
11:28 |
: And there’s one.
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11:28 |
: I like Stouffer’s frozen mac and cheese
|
11:28 |
: like $4 a box, food for the bourgeoisie
|
11:29 |
: Is there anything that says bourgeois much more than writing about baseball games for a living?
|
11:29 |
: Good news for Dodger fans, you’ll be rested and Braves’ fans will be sleepy tomorrow
|
11:29 |
: I have to finish my Astros/Rays gamer after this so I’ll definitely be sleepy!
|
11:30 |
: it’s (not) big willy time
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11:30 |
: Because it’s 2020, we’re going to be deprived of an Astros-Dodgers World Series rematch, aren’t we?
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11:30 |
: Only if writing about baseball while in a gaudy smoking jacket as your butler stands nearby.
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11:31 |
: Writing about golf, polo, or sailing is easily more bourgeois than writing about baseball.
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11:31 |
: Pain
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11:31 |
: And that is the game!
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11:32 |
: Alright, well we did it!
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11:32 |
: Thank you Dan and Paul for another very enjoyable evening at fangraphs.
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11:32 |
: Thank you all so much for hanging out with Dan and I! Hope y’all had fun!
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11:32 |
: Take care, Dan wanna close it when you’re ready?
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11:32 |
: Yes, thank you for spending your evening watching the game with it.
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11:32 |
: Say goodnight, Paulie!
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11:32 |
: Dan and Paul .. thank you for the chat and for putting up with the nonsense
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11:33 |
: Goodnight Paulie
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11:33 |
: I was typing itttt jeez
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11:33 |
: I’m an impatient fellow lol!
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11:33 |
: Thanks everyone!
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Meg is the editor-in-chief of FanGraphs and the co-host of Effectively Wild. Prior to joining FanGraphs, her work appeared at Baseball Prospectus, Lookout Landing, and Just A Bit Outside. You can follow her on Bluesky @megrowler.fangraphs.com.