No CBA Deal Yet, but MLB Extends Its Deadline After Marathon Negotiation Session

On the day that commissioner Rob Manfred set as a deadline for the completion of a new collective bargaining agreement that would end the owners’ self-imposed lockout and keep a March 31 Opening Day on schedule, no deal was reached. For the eighth consecutive day of negotiations, representatives for the owners and the players’ union met at Jupiter, Florida’s Roger Dean Stadium, going back and forth so many times over the course of 16 1/2 hours that the calculations of steps traveled strained FanGraphs’ servers, to say nothing of the brains of the handful of reporters staked out outside the gates. Enough progress towards a deal was made before the two sides broke for the night at 2:30 AM ET that Manfred agreed to extend the artificially-imposed deadline to 5 PM ET on Tuesday.
While nothing has been finalized, the reports of where the key components are heading do not paint a particularly pretty picture for the players’ side. After a decade in which they have largely been shut out of massive revenue growth, with new television deals falling into place, they appear to be improving the lot of their rank and file — no small matter in an industry where 47% of all service time went to players making the minimum salary — but while achieving only modest gains in areas where they initially sought more radical change.
Based upon the drips and drabs that have emerged from various reports, the battle to expand the postseason has loomed large, with MLB presenting alternative proposals based on whether it’s 14 teams (their preference) or 12 (the union’s preference).
Sources: Deal not close, but not impossible. CBT thresholds, prearb pool big issues, among others. MLB has proposed two choices:
A: 14-team expanded postseason, minimum of ~$700k, ~40m into prearb pool
B: 12-team expanded postseason, ~$675k minimum, ~$20m into prearb pool
— Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) March 1, 2022
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The 12-team format appears to be the route this deal will take, though according to the New York Post’s Andrew Marchand, the gap between the two formats amounts to only a $15 million difference in what ESPN is offering ($100 million for a 14-team format, $85 million for a 12-team one). Whether the “ghost win” concept — giving the division-winning team that does not receive a first-round bye a one-game-to-none advantage in a best-of-five series — survives is unclear at this writing.
As of Tuesday morning, MLB’s latest proposals have been reported by USA Today‘s Bob Nightengale and The Athletic’s Evan Drellich, without parallel reporting of the union’s counter proposals or full details of the five years covered by the new CBA. All of these figures should be regarded as fluid, and where the numbers end up will be the subject of continued negotiations. What the owners have offered is a minimum salary that starts at $675,000 for 2022 (up from $570,500 in 2021, a 17.4% gain relative to the year before and a 26.2% gain relative to 2017, the first year of the last CBA) and climbs by $10,000 per year; a pre-arbitration bonus pool of $25 million (the players were seeking $115 million as of last week); and a Competitive Balance Tax with thresholds that run from $220 million in 2022 (a gain of 2.8% relative to last year) to $230 million in ’26 (a gain of just 4.5% over the ensuing four years, and 7.5% over 2021) and marginal tax rates in line with the previous CBA (20% on the first $20 million over the threshold, 32% on the next $20 million, and 62.5% on anything above $40 million). It’s not clear whether this iteration of the tax structure would retain the last CBA’s repeater penalties (MLB’s previous proposals had dropped it), or whether the league’s current proposal includes draft-pick penalties; the players’ proposals have not included them, but the owners’ recent proposals included a second-round pick lost by teams that go over by $20 million to $40 million and a first-round pick by those over by $40 million or more.
Via Drellich, the union is willing to drop its proposal to expand the Super Two framework beyond 22% of those with between two and three years of service time “if [the] rest of [the] numbers work out.” They had sought a full expansion and were at 75% last week, dropping to 35% over the weekend. The union hasn’t fully given up on revenue-sharing changes, despite the owner’s unwillingness to bargain on that issue. The two sides had agreed to some kind of draft lottery as an anti-tanking measure, with Drellich reporting on Tuesday that MLB has proposed including the top five picks, though no further details of the structure of either side’s latest proposals have been detailed (ESPN’s Jeff Passan previously outlined a plan from the players as of last Thursday that accounted for market size and revenue-sharing status). At last report, the owners had agreed to grant a full year of service time to players who finish first or second in their league’s Rookie of the Year voting, as long as they are among the top 100 prospects and did not spend the full season on the big league roster. Drellich reported on Tuesday morning that the league still wants an international draft, and that it’s willing to drop draft-pick compensation on free agents — both significant compromises, which isn’t to say that they’re equal ones.
All of these details still need to be ironed out, and it seems likely that the union will continue to push for higher tax thresholds (their last reported proposal used $245 million as their 2022 baseline) and a higher minimum salary (their last reported proposal started at $775,000) as the other components fall into place. Particularly given how central the CBT has been to their proposals, such meager gains on that front would be tough to swallow. What happens if there’s no deal at 5 PM isn’t clear, but any attempt to reduce the number of games below 162 and thus salaries, service time, and bonuses would be subject to collective bargaining, opening a can of worms that would probably throw everything that’s been accomplished (such as it is) back into question. It’s worth remembering that when the owners locked the players out of spring training for 32 days in 1990, the resulting settlement included an Opening Day pushed back by a week, a season end date extended by three days, and all but two of the 26 teams playing 162 games. There’s at least some optimism that we will see a full season of baseball, but when it’s all said and done, we may well wonder why there was so much fuss and so little gained — and that’s probably a major win for the owners.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Looks like the players are getting stomped on here.
The owners refusing to budge on the Super 2’s is basically them admitting they intend to keep manipulating service time. The changes to the minimum salary, size of the playoff field, and CBT are also minimal and overall wins for the owners since the CBT serves as a soft cap and looks to increase slower than COLA or inflation. The prearb bonus pool is tiny and even if they grant a full year of service time to guys finishing in the top two of RoY voting, how many players are actually going to benefit from that?
Looks to me like the new CBA is not much different than the old CBA and doesn’t address things the players should have been most concerned about like service time manipulation, playing their most productive years in a cost-controlled environment, squeezing out the middle class in free agency, and the rising gap between revenues and payrolls.
So far as I can remember, the players have been stomped on by pretty much every CBA presided over by Don Fehr, whose tenure covered the early 80’s through the late ’00’s. The leadership after him has been even more limp.
Yeah, at this point the players aren’t making gains, they’re just trying to at least tie salaries and the CBT to inflation, and not even getting that…
I can’t believe they’re going to give up expanded playoffs and just get an increased minimum and CBT. This is easy to say for me because I’m not giving up a paycheck but I’d be pissed if I was a player and they gave up a structural change without getting one in return.
Yeah this is what bothers me too. Expanded playoffs is, conservatively, a 100M per year increase in revenue for the owners. Probably more when you factor in ticket sales and ads and whatever else follows. To cash that in and get a higher CBT, something they should’ve already gotten, is insane. They needed to get major concessions from the owners with respect to free agency or minimum salaries and arbitration. Anything else would be a failure. This just shows that the owners aren’t looking for a fair deal (or even a favorable deal for themselves), they’re looking to crush the MLBPA and pick up whatever’s left after that.
I think the Super Two redefinition may have potentially qualified, but the players dropped that. Also, that still wasn’t good enough for the owners.
The only thing that is an outright loss for the fans (other than games not being played), is the playoff expansion. 14 team playoffs is going to be so stupid.
Is that an actual loss for fans? I agree it is ridiculous but fans like to see their teams in the playoffs and not out.
I think it would be a loss. Expended play-offs likely means more best of 5 or even best of 3 game series. The kind of volatility that shortened of a series introduces means that better teams will have greater chance of being eliminated early in the play-offs resulting in likely less intriguing match-ups in the Championship Series and World Series. This will have eventually have detrimental effect on team building concepts as no front office will want to overly invest in improving the team beyond certain thresholds as the end results in the playoffs are too randomized to make it worth it.
I’ve heard this many times, but it makes no sense to me in practice. Do you really think a team isnt going to try to be better than the bare minimum at the expense of being worse when the playoffs actually begin?
This just doesnt happen in any other sport that has a big ratio of playoff teams to non.
“Do you really think a team isnt going to try to be better than the bare minimum at the expense of being worse when the playoffs actually begin?”
Yes… yes I do.
We’ve already seen it. Look at the Yankees. They’ve gone under the luxury tax threshold twice in the past four years during a championship window. Do they do that in the old 8 team post-season format? I highly doubt that. I bet they would’ve gone the extra mile. But with the 10 team format they can go into wait and see mode and upgrade at the deadline and try to squeeze into a wildcard spot. Lots of teams hand around the mid 80 win range and hope for the best. Expansion to 14 teams wouldn’t end the sport, but it would be the single biggest detriment in a long time.
As a fan, you want your team to have a chance at the WS. This opens the door wider.
Not sure that team building concepts will change but studies could be made of NBA/NFL/NHL team building. Also, not sure that teams trying to make the playoffs will attempt to do so by slicing the bologna thin enough to squeeze by.
Yes.
Why in world is more playoff teams, more invested markets, and more great games stupid? No one has an existential crisis if the #1 seed is bounced in the playoffs in any other sport, it just adds to the fun and magic of October.
Playoff upsets are fun because they’re not common. They’re a lot less fun when they happen every year because of the randomness of a 3 game series
Since the upsets are not common (your comment) we can assume they don’t happen every year, which then makes an uncommon occurrence fun (your comment).
Going back to the article(s) a couple of months ago about what an expanded playoff field might look like, I will again say that March Madness achieves the best mix of Cinderella stories and “deserving” winners. You get some 12-14 seeds winning a game or two (or three!) before you settle into the second week of the tournament which is nearly always won by a 1-3 seed.
Of course, they have a field of 68, so it’s easier to achieve that agreeable mix than with a field of 12 or 14. First-round byes for the very best team helps provide some incentive to “be the best” over the course of the season and shields them from upsets for one round at least. I probably won’t shed too many tears for a 94-win second seed losing to an 82-win 7th seed, ESPECIALLY if they get a “ghost win” advantage. (It helps too that my favorite team will more likely be a #7 seed than a #2 seed over the years.)
Expanded playoffs would suck without some sort of advantage for teams that perform at an elite level in the regular season. To offset this, 12 team playoffs with byes for the top record in each league, ghost wins for the 2,3,4 seeds and a best of 7 divisional round seems to be a good balance. MLB gets extra games, and franchises are still incentivized to build great rather than good teams.
It does seem like they’re considering this structure, which is surprising because if we have to have 12 playoff teams it’s pretty close to the best available in my opinion.
Yeah, that way if a 100 win team loses to a 80 win team, at least it’s after a bye or from them losing 4 out of 6 games. So it’s kind of deserved. Cheapening the regular season via a 2020 version of expanded playoffs would be awful.
I wanna believe but I’m still pessimistic and some writers are doing an about face from last night to this morning.
I’m optimistic there will be a deal, but I’m pessimistic we’ll get it today. Not super pessimistic, but I’m nowhere near as confident of a deal today as the media is suggesting.
Most of the optimistic news being pumped last night was coming from the MLB side. It’s clear to me that the MLBPA is more cautious. It’s been difficult for the MLBPA to negotiate since the MLB side didn’t negotiate until yesterday, 24 hours in advance of their self-created deadline. This was clearly a tactic. It prevented meaningful movement, and then a rush for a deal at the last moment that appears beneficial for the owners. The MLBPA I think wisely stepped back from that. Now that the owners are negotiating, it presents an opportunity for the MLBPA to perhaps play a little hardball of their own today. It’s to their advantage to even lose games near term if they can improve the terms of the deal long term.
MLB has been controlling the pace of the negotiations. The MLBPA now has an opportunity to do that too and force the MLB side into more concessions.
Plus, if owners cancel games after all this “progress,” they take all the blame.
Definitely agree that MLB’s refusal to negotiate seriously until the last possible moment was a deliberate tactic intended to put any real changes out of reach and confine negotiations to dollar value changes to existing structures (league minimum, CBT, etc). It’s a dirty tactic that seems to have been quite effective.
I think I’m more hopeful that there will be 162 games now than at any point in the last couple of years. Which doesn’t mean it will happen, but it seems much more possible now.
ha ha nvm
#sadtrombonesound
I tend to be pessimistic, so when things go right I mostly wallow in misery about being wrong. But when things go wrong, I wallow in misery about the wrongness. It is the perfect lose-lose situation.
Advantage MLB. Owners should be pumped that games are being cancelled. These teams bleed money.
Way worse than the stock market. These saints are basically running a public service here.
I’m pleased that some kind of progress is being made. Last week, I commented that I thought things would move as the deadline approached. And they moved!
It’s maybe too early to say whether the players are giving too much up. But I will say that after 20 years of giving ground, just stopping the bleeding might be a win.
Uff i really mixed a metaphor there. Don’t ban me, Meg!
At this point, it may be better for players to agree to a salary cap, if it includes revenue split and salary floor like the NBA – they’d probably be better off than they are now.
Or a hybrid. Guarantee a % of revenue for players, if the owners underspend, have the difference split between the players of the league based on 25 man roster days
I also think that would be a huge win for the players (and the fans and the game in general), but I doubt it’s achievable. The owners got a de facto cap with no floor, and it’s going to be damn near impossible to bargain them out of it.
Right, it’s hard for the players to negotiate themselves out of the position of a soft cap with no floor at this point.
MLBPA-leaning writers frequently make two points that are undermined by the MLBPA’s own stances:
(1) Compensation isn’t going up as fast as revenue.
(2) Owners have set up a de facto salary cap
The MLBPA has always refused any attempt to link league revenue with player compensation because they don’t want a revenue split like other sports leagues. It’s like refusing to be compensated in company stock then complaining when the stock increases faster than your salary. If there’s already a de facto salary cap, why not pursue a high salary floor with stiff penalties for underspending? Even garbage NFL teams spend 80%+ of the cap.
Service time manipulation is a little more unique to MLB due to minor leagues. But again, if there’s a high spending floor, there’s less incentive to do it and more incentive to make your future stars happy.
MLBPA doesn’t want a structure where players are fighting each other for money, they want an open ended market. Once players are competing for the same dollars, explicitly, it becomes a different game.
They may want that, but they’d be a lot better off with a cap, floor, and guaranteed split than they are now.
They don’t want a revenue split because they don’t believe the owners are reporting their revenue properly. In the NFL, when everything is a national TV contract and there’s a ton of revenue sharing, you don’t have to worry quite as much that they’re hiding stuff.
They would definitely need to specify which revenue streams are to be split very carefully, and to have that calculation audited or at least right of inspection but it doesn’t seem like an insurmountable obstacle to me.
At least not from the players’ perspective. The owners are already in such a dominating position that I have no idea how you’d talk them into it.
I know that owners can hide profitability via depreciation, moving money around and other trickery. How would revenue be reported improperly? Other leagues presumably manage to avoid this problem. Are MLB owners more diabolical than other billionaire owners in the NBA and NHL, or do they just have different incentives based on the differing CBAs?
I should mention I’m not advocating for a revenue split because I think the competitive balance is good in baseball (at least over years). I just think that it would improve a lot of the issues players are concerned about: compensation for young players, service time, sharing in lucrative TV deals. Also, negotiations would be less acrimonious because they wouldn’t have to ask for dollar amount increases every CBA. Once a % is established, it’s the precedent and any new TV deals just go into that collective bin and distributed via cap increases. But it might come at the expense of max contract value and length, perhaps non-guaranteed $. MLBPA has decided that they don’t want that tradeoff, so in my view they don’t get to reap all the benefits of increased TV revenue that they could otherwise.
How would revenue be reported improperly? Lots of ways. One way is a commingling of businesses, like a media company buying a team, then paying them a below-market rate on a TV contract. Another is teams building stadiums, then developments around that stadium that they also get revenue from. There’s also getting baseball-related revenue, like parking for the stadium, and then shuffling off that revenue to a company that’s owned by a related company. The point being, there are myriad ways to make revenue appear like it is going to another entity or artificially underpay for things like TV rights.
MLB owners are pretty diabolical, probably much more than the NBA, and just a bit more than the NHL.
Seems like low hanging fruit for NBA, NFL, and NHL executives to pocket revenue while not sharing with their players. I don’t buy the theory that owners of other leagues are uniquely benevolent and MLB owners are uniquely evil. Rather, the negotiated CBAs just change their incentives. There’s less reason to penny pinch in other leagues because of the cap/floor/revenue split structure.
Are MLBAM and BAMtech included in the revenue calculations. Those are huge businesses.
The argument (from owners) is that a salary floor isn’t workable in the MLB because there is too large a disparity in team revenues. MLB doesn’t have revenue sharing nearly to the extent of other leagues with a salary cap (read NBA and NFL), so, for example, the salary floor that would be appropriate for the Yankees and Dodgers, would be higher than the A’s and Guardians could support.
This is great news. Would have liked to see the players do a little better than this, but let’s be real, did anyone think that the players would get a big win here? Progress for the less well-compensated players is good. And maybe they can get to actually playing some baseball soon. I would like that.
Gotta say, though, I do not like the expanded playoffs. They need to be real careful not to further cheapen the result of the regular season.
I was actually thinking there was a 50/50 shot of a deal happening and a full season being played until this, from the league:
“The MLBPA had a decidedly different tone today and made proposals inconsistent with the prior discussions. We will be making our best offer before the 5pm deadline for the MLBPA that’s a fair deal for players and clubs.”
Sooooo that’s not good.
There’s been a lot of this where MLB excitedly says “We’re close to a deal!”. Then the next day, they claim the players are holding up the deal. Not saying it gets done today, but it really looks like both sides dropped their non-starter demands and are inching closer on some numbers.
If the reported details of MLB’s final offer are accurate, I think we’re going to miss games.
I guess my reason for optimism is that the MLB dropped the crazy cap penalties and the union is preserving super 2s. Missing games is not out of the picture of course, but the remaining gaps are just different numbers in an agreed upon structure.
In the back of my mind, I keep thinking that they can just add a handful of 7 inning double headers or agree to pay the players 162 games of salary for 155 games if it slips a week.
Aaaaaand it’s done. The MLB is going to announce that they’re cancelling games. It’s ridiculous.
The players’ final proposal was actually super favorable to the owners, but the league want to “win” whatever that is. Very uncool, MLB. Very uncool.
The official MLB reporting has been very out of step with pretty much the entirety of media not employed by MLB.
I have a question about the wording of “owners’ self-imposed lockout”. I feel I have read this a couple times and it makes me think the owners are locked out too. maybe this is referring to the fact that they cannot sign any players. But then it should be ‘owners’ self-imposed shutdown’. Or maybe it should just be ‘owners’ imposed lockout”. Whatever the case I get you are trying to show it is the owners who have made it so we don’t see the players play, and appreciate it even as it is confusing wording to me.
When management/ownership closes a workplace to a union, they are literally locking the players out of the place of business. In other words, it is a lockout.
If the players refused to work in an organized manner, that would be a strike.
All lockouts are self-imposed by ownership.
Spoilt greedy a-hols the lot of them.
Get some bloody perspective.
I thought they were pretty close. About two weeks ago I posted on a similar article I thought increasing the minimum to 700/725/750 would get it done.
I think a 700 minimum is an increase of about 22% over the current (570 I think?). That’s a pretty hefty bump. I wonder how much pull the players that are in this minimum wage group really have.
It still feels like the players want to go back to the free agent market of 15-20 years ago when they would get big contracts just for putting in the time. No way is that going to happen. If that is what they are holding out for this thing is going to go on for a long time.