Noah Syndergaard’s Weight Change in Context
Maybe because it’s an example of the Best Shape of His Life story taken to its inevitable conclusion or maybe because it’s the only news that’s occurred other than pitchers and catchers saying “here” in a spring-training facility somewhere. In either case, it seems relevant to discuss how Noah Syndergaard showed up to camp with a reported extra 17 pounds of muscle.
To understand the implications of that weight gain, we’d ideally examine big weight gainers of the past and use that data to discuss the situation. Unfortunately, that’s not really an option: listed weights are notoriously incorrect and also don’t change on a yearly basis.
What we can do is look at the best available research on strength training and pitching. We can also look at the pitcher himself and put this newest change in the context of the individual. Once you do, it doesn’t seem so drastic. Then the weight change is just another in a line of ambitious adjustments Syndergaard has already tackled.
Thor’s always had that hammer, but the changeup was the question mark when he was traded to the Mets from Toronto. He was promoted into Las Vegas, a terrible park for pitchers for a few reasons, and found that his breaking ball wasn’t as good. “Right now it’s pretty hard to throw a breaking ball in Vegas,” he told me in 2014. “It’s pretty dry and the ball doesn’t break as much, so I’ve moved toward the changeup.”
We only have two points of data from that year, two changeups thrown in the Futures Game, but it looks like Syndergaard added about two inches of fade and an inch or two of drop on the changeup while he was pitching in the Pacific Coast League. Now his version of the pitch has more fade, drop, and velocity gap than the average change and is 48% better than league average by whiffs and 22% better by grounders. He took a major leap forward, in other words.
The next big change that the righty implemented involved the Warthen Slider. The Mets’ pitching coach espouses a hard breaker that feature a bit less movement than a typical slider, but a bit more than a cutter. When I first talked to Syndergaard about it, he was only fiddling with the pitch. Then, in 2015, he started throwing it regularly.
Last year, no starter threw the slider 200 times and recorded a better whiff rate than Syndergaard did. PITCHf/x says he got whiffs on 28% of the sliders he threw. From the fan’s perspective, that hard slider ranks among the best pitches in the game. Another huge leap forward.
Less obvious was a mechanical change that Syndergaard underwent from 2015 to 2016. He didn’t make the most drastic change in arm slot over that time frame, but it was among the league leaders.
| Pitcher | 2016 Vert Release | 2015 Vert Release | Abs (Diff) |
|---|---|---|---|
| James Paxton | 6.08 | 6.52 | 0.45 |
| Jeremy Jeffress | 5.70 | 6.08 | 0.38 |
| Addison Reed | 5.88 | 5.51 | 0.37 |
| Steve Cishek | 4.09 | 3.76 | 0.33 |
| Josh Tomlin | 5.90 | 5.61 | 0.29 |
| Pedro Baez | 6.12 | 5.84 | 0.28 |
| Tommy Milone | 6.03 | 5.75 | 0.28 |
| Raisel Iglesias | 5.43 | 5.17 | 0.26 |
| Zach Duke | 5.76 | 5.52 | 0.24 |
| Matt Albers | 5.19 | 4.95 | 0.24 |
| Joakim Soria | 5.61 | 5.85 | 0.24 |
| Vance Worley | 6.76 | 6.52 | 0.23 |
| Louis Coleman | 5.02 | 5.25 | 0.23 |
| Noah Syndergaard | 6.35 | 6.11 | 0.23 |
| Drew Pomeranz | 6.33 | 6.11 | 0.23 |
Abs(Diff) = absolute value of the difference between 2015 and 2016 release
We know how much the arm-slot change meant for James Paxton. “It just feels natural coming out of that slot” he said last year of his new arm angle. A few other pitchers on this list took big leaps forward last year, too.
There’s Syndergaard on the list, too. Only 10 pitchers who threw 500 pitches in both 2015 and 2016 changed their arm slot to a more over-the-top orientation than Syndergaard. When you go over the top more, you sacrifice horizontal for vertical movement. Thor’s hammer gained an inch of drop on average, and his four-seam gained a quarter inch of ride. His sinker and change, meanwhile, lost around an inch of fade. His curve lost over two inches of cut.
Normally, that sort of thing would cost you in terms of ground balls, as horizontal movement is a benefit to ground-ball rate. However, velocity is also a great way to induce grounders. Between Syndergaard’s 98 mph fastball and his 91 mph slider, he has that in spades. Adding more drop to his curve and ride to his fastball helped him improve the whiff rate on both pitches. The swinging-strike rate on his curve went up 25% even.
So Syndergaard has already made two big changes to his pitching mix over the course of a brief career — and a major change to his mechanics, as well. In light of that, he seems well situated to make the most of the mass he’s added. While bigger doesn’t necessarily mean better among major-league pitchers, those numbers are muddied by the errors in their reporting we discussed above.
There’s plenty of evidence that targeted strength gain can help pitchers, especially when it comes to velocity. Studies have found:
- A .89 correlation between lower body strength and velocity;
- that higher pelvic velocity leads to throwing harder;
- that wrist flexion and strength are major contributors to velocity;
- that upper body resistance-training led to higher velocity;
- that the strength of the scapular muscle could play a vital role in injury.
It’s not immediately clear what sort of weight Syndergaard put on exactly, but these studies have been out for more than a decade, so he was probably aware (if only in secondhand fashion) of their findings when he went into the weight room. Considering he also told the Daily News that “pitching is not just max effort, it’s about being fluid and having flexibility out there,” let’s give him some benefit of the doubt and assume he’s not coming to camp with 17 pounds of extra pecs and calves.
The scariest thought is that we may see an even better version of the Mets’ righty this year. He already led the league in wins above replacement last year, so it’s time to get the popcorn out and see what he can really do, now armed with a nasty changeup, perhaps the league’s best slider, a new arm slot, and more muscle.
With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.
This is exciting and, as a Mets fan, terrifying. If you can already throw 102mph, is anything extra an unnecessary risk?
And moderately depressing as a Blue Jays fan.
Moderately?? That’s a tad understated 🙁
RA Dickey
Sometimes you get RA Dickey for Syndergaard. Sometimes you get Donaldson for Lawrie.
I think this helps the most to the number 5 point to prevent injury. Considering seeing 3 of his pitching teammates be injured last year he probably did it as a preemptive measure.
I’ve also gained some weight this offseason in the thighs and midsection. Definitely NOT “Best Shape of my Life” though!
Speaking of weight gains. I still get a chuckle when I see Miguel Sano listed at 6’3″ and, sit down before you read this, 195 pounds in the 2015 Baseball Prospectus Twins prospect list. His bobble-head which sits in front of me that I got when he played for the New Britain Rock Cats in 2013 weighs more than that.
When it’s reported that an athlete “added X lbs of muscle”, is that code for “this athlete gained X lbs and we are going to conveniently attribute all of that to muscle”? I will admit it sounds better than Thor announcing, “I’ve gained 17 lbs this offseason, 14 lbs of which is muscle and 3 lbs of which is from the naked chicken chalupas that I ate last night.”
17 pounds of muscle a year x 20 years = a long future in baseball.
Eno– thank you so much! I’m actually doing my senior research project on certain kinetic variables vs. fastball velocity. These studies were largely helpful! You da man.
That minimum IP qualifier that eliminates Kershaw from the WAR board. True though that Thor and Kershaw tied with 6.5 WAR, so Thor still “led the league.” But now I have trust issues, Eno.
Literally created an account just to post this exact thing. Which as it turns out wasn’t necessary since you already did.
As someone who used to try to consume 4500 calories a day, to add 17 lbs of only muscle in 3-4 months IS dang near impossible, but if he did good for him! #PUMPIT
Very true, although it would certainly be easier with someone tall like him.
Exactly.
17 pounds of muscle at 6’0 is a hell of a lot more than 17 pounds of muscle at 6’5″.
It’s the same answer as when people say Aaron Sanchez put on 25 lbs in the 15-16 off season. It isn’t all muscle.
You gain muscle faster when you’re also putting on fat. When you add in fat gain, those numbers are a lot more realistic. He’s going to be walking into camp a lot stronger though.
HEY EVERYONE BRAND NEW SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY…tall people gain muscle faster?? This is a perfect example of “pseudo-intelligence”.
It’s not harder or easier for a tall or a short person to pack on muscle.
And 17 lbs of muscle may “look” slighter larger on a guy 5″ taller but not noticeable. It’s definitely not “a hell of a lot more”
That’s good. I’m only 6’0″ and I have about 17 pounds of muscle.
Yeah. The only thing is that you can’t strengthen yourself your ucl. It’s impossible. It’s basically a rubber band that connects your bones together. More force = more velocityhigher chance of it breaking
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But you can strengthen supportive tissue around the joint, which could distribute some of the force away from the UCL.
Like all health related topics, it’s complicated & best to resist the urge to simplify things to where you lose descriptive power.
Awesome article, Eno. Really interesting to think that pitchers are getting this in-depth with their mechanics and offseason regimens to get an edge.
I wanted to point out that it’s highly unlikely that he has actually gained seventeen pounds of muscle in the past three and a half months. While he is just out of his prime years for gaining lean mass, without steroids the most muscle he could realistically expect to gain in that period of time is around seven pounds. There are a lot of factors that go into it, such as whether or not he is a newbie to lifting and his genetic potential. I don’t doubt that he has gained seventeen pounds in that time frame, but aggressive estimates would put him at six pounds of muscle, six pounds of fat, and five pounds of water/glycogen as a result of eating the carbs/calories required to gain that muscle weight in that amount of time. It also isn’t likely that he would gain much more muscle/lean mass if he had just decided to train and eat more during that time. The body can only gain so much muscle over a given period of time, with that amount getting lower and lower as you get closer to your genetic potential.
Well stated. It always amazes me how the writers who report these things on athletes that gain 10-30 pounds of ‘muscle’ in the offseason, do not remark on this. If there was any proof that he did in fact, gain 15 lbs then there would be about a 99.9999% chance that PEDs of some type were consumed. He is either severely ignorant and really thinks he gained 15 lean pounds, or he is broadcasting to the world the ease of cheating in MLB. I would assume the former. Conditioned, strong athletes can’t put on 15 pounds, or even 5 pounds of muscle easily, only an untrained individual has the ability to come close to this in 4 months.
Or your both ignoring the 3rd and 4th possibilities. The third is he was comparing last spring trainings weight to this and he has gained that much in a year. The 4th is he really is thor…..
Strength gains typically come in phases of gaining (Muscle + fat), and then cutting fat (while holding muscle in place)*. If his weight is up 17 lbs, I’d be shocked if that was all muscle.
*That’s why strongman competitors always have a good layer of fat, they don’t bother with cut fat phase (which slows down gains in strength). Bodybuilders take phase 2 to the extreme.
My first thought was this is a bad thing. Am I alone here? If he was already listed at 242 that means he is 259? While he might look huge, and while it may be “mostly muscle” I cannot understand how a pitcher who is already on the bigger side getting bigger is a good thing. More weight moving is just harder and will likely take a bigger strain on his body.