Offseason Shopping Lists: AL and NL Central
Last week, the FanGraphs staff and I previewed the top 50 free agents on this winter’s market. It takes two to tango, though (pending the development of my experimental one-person tango), which means the teams looking for players matter just as much. Over the course of this week, I’ll preview the needs of each team in baseball. Today, it’s time to preview the NL and AL Central. You can find the 10 teams in the East here.
As much as possible, I’ve tried to be realistic. Yes, the Orioles could sign Carlos Correa, Marcus Semien, Freddie Freeman, Starling Marte, Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, and Marcus Stroman in pursuit of a playoff berth next year. They not going to sign even one of those players, though, and I’ve focused on what a team should do given real-world budgets. You won’t see the Rays listed as a landing spot for free agents in the market for $100 million contracts, or anything of that sort. As much as possible, this list is what teams might actually do. Let’s get to it.
NL Central
Milwaukee Brewers
Primary: Outfield
Secondary: First Base, Rotation Depth
The Brewers had a bad offense, and their best hitter, Avisaíl García, is now a free agent. Lorenzo Cain is more solid than star at this point, Christian Yelich stopped hitting for power, and Tyrone Taylor and Jackie Bradley Jr. are just okay. I expect them to stick with Cain, as his glove still plays, and find a new right fielder. That might be Mark Canha, a reunion with García, or even Michael Conforto, which would be intriguing; he seems out of their price range at first glance, but there are rumors he’d take a short deal to rebuild his long-term value, a Brewers specialty in recent years.
One player can’t fix an entire offense, though. The Brewers should improve first base if a bargain drops to them. A Rowdy Tellez/Daniel Vogelbach duo might be one of the best offensive positions on the current team, but it’s below average league-wide. Mike Brosseau is a nice backup option who can handle the weak side of a platoon, but he has value even if he doesn’t play first. A big bat would be welcome anywhere in the infield, but particularly at first base, where it won’t interfere with the team’s defense.
Lastly, Milwaukee could use some pitching depth. The top of their rotation is the best in baseball, and if you’re as high on Adrian Houser as I am, it goes four deep. I’d still like a depth arm for safety, though; while the team has several minor leaguers who could fill out the rotation, I’d prefer to use many of them in the bullpen. Aaron Ashby, Ethan Small, and Alec Bettinger are a solid 6-8 trio, but adding even one mid-tier veteran would give Craig Counsell much greater leeway to use those electric arms in relief.
St. Louis Cardinals
Primary: Pitching
Secondary: Hitting
I don’t mean to make light of the Cardinals’ situation, but while they cobbled together an excellent run prevention season, it didn’t look sustainable. Jon Lester and J.A. Happ are no one’s idea of elite pitching, but the team needed them for their bulk. With those two and Kwang Hyun Kim gone, the pitching staff needs reinforcements.
Some of that will come internally. Jack Flaherty, Miles Mikolas, and Dakota Hudson should all pitch more innings in 2022 than they did this year. That’s worrisome, though: one of the best predictors of future pitching health is present pitching health. Even assuming health, that puts Jake Woodford in the rotation, and while he’s serviceable, he’d be better suited as a seventh option than someone you plan on giving 30 starts. Signing Marcus Stroman — a natural in front of a good defense — and another veteran pitcher would ease the pressure on the rotation.
Some batters would also do the team good, but only if they’re stars. There’s not much use to replacing Tommy Edman or the Edmundo Sosa/Paul DeJong tandem with an average player; I’d be okay with signing someone who can back up the outfield and DH, but the team seems to lean towards internal options there, and a Lars Nootbaar/Juan Yepez platoon seems more their speed. For the most part, they should just get some pitching.
Chicago Cubs
Primary: Shortstop, Outfield
Secondary: Corner Infield, Rotation
If the Cubs are planning on spending like a high-resource team going forward, they might be interested in snagging a long-term piece at shortstop while the getting is good. I don’t think this is particularly likely, but if the team wants to use Nico Hoerner as a utility player rather than a starting shortstop, this is the year to do it.
Past that, the outfield is ripe for a Giants-style makeover, where the team auditions a pile of mid-to-late-20s bats to see which sticks. Rafael Ortega and Jason Heyward aren’t long-term solutions, Ian Happ could DH, and let’s be honest: as currently constituted, this team is going to do a lot of losing, so they might as well learn something about new players while doing it.
That’s what already happened on the infield corners, where Frank Schwindel and Patrick Wisdom turned in excellent seasons more or less out of nowhere. I’d plan on giving them both a heaping helping of playing time, but signing a corner type who can also DH would give the team insurance against injury or ineffectiveness, particularly if it’s a lefty bat for sweet platoon value. They should also sign some pitching, but I think that adding Wade Miley alleviated those needs somewhat.
Pittsburgh Pirates
Primary: Rotation
Secondary: Outfield
Pittsburgh isn’t trying to win this year, and it’s a good thing: their pitching staff leaves a lot to be desired. The team’s plan of mixing high-upside youngsters with mid-level veterans will hopefully yield some long-term gems, but they’ll need more pitchers from a pure innings perspective. Doing that would also free them up to trade any short-control pitchers who pop, providing a welcome tailwind to their seemingly-unending rebuilding project.
The same goes for the outfield. If things work as planned, the Pittsburgh infield is full of long-term stars, but the outfield has only Bryan Reynolds as a clear keeper. I’d keep my eyes peeled for interesting players either there or at first base who might benefit from playing time, and the team seems to agree: they already claimed Greg Allen on waivers. Most of their bench also fits that general vibe. I’d be interested in doing more of the same, even if it means cutting Ben Gamel loose. When you’re running a low-budget operation, finding some players to deliver excess value is key, and trawling the free agency, trade, and waiver pool for players the team thinks it can help is a great way to find that excess value.
Cincinnati Reds
Primary: Pot of Gold, Prospects
Secondary: Rotation Replacements
This is my way of saying that the Reds are in the process of getting cheaper and worse. Finding a secret stash of hundreds of millions of dollars might allow the team to compete in its current iteration; sadly, I don’t think they’re likely to make this acquisition. If that’s out of the question, Luis Castillo and Sonny Gray are both likely on the way out, so the Reds should prioritize getting prospects that could join Jonathan India in the majors in the next few years.
Should they trade two of their top three starters, they’ll need more arms — Wade Miley types, amusingly enough. Since we know they’re not spending $10 million for that type of pitcher, I’d aim lower; grab three reclamation projects and hope Derek Johnson works his magic, more or less.
AL Central
Cleveland Guardians
Primary: Corner Outfield
Secondary: First Base, Second Base
The Guardians are all sorted on the name front after settling their lawsuit with a roller derby team. That just leaves — well, running out a successful outfield, something Cleveland has struggled with far longer than they’ve faced off against niche sports teams in court. Given their well-publicized budget crunch, I don’t think this is happening in free agency. That means trades, perhaps sending Amed Rosario to a shortstop-needy team with spare outfielders. It also means waiting for the shortstop dust to settle and then pouncing, which might make for a slow offseason in Cleveland.
If that comes to pass, the team will need a second baseman when Andrés Giménez slides over to shortstop. If I were them, I’d prefer to keep Rosario and trade from elsewhere, but it’s a problem of scarce resources: the team has a 40-man crunch and also won’t spend much money, so the lesser of two evils might be flipping Rosario and then finding someone to stand at second. First base could use an upgrade, but I think the team will choose to stand pat there. It’s simply another spot to look at should a good deal pop up.
Kansas City Royals
Primary: Outfield
Secondary: Pitching
The Royals are in a bind this offseason; they have decent players up and down the roster, but no true stars, and no real budget to acquire one in free agency. Bobby Witt Jr. might be that star, likely at third base given Nicky Lopez’s defensive prowess. I don’t think that the team will commit more resources to first base while Carlos Santana is around, which means the outfield might be their best bet at marginal improvement. If they want to find that player in free agency, that could mean Mark Canha, who can also DH or play first in a pinch.
I like Kansas City’s pitching staff, but I’d like it a lot more with one additional arm, both to enable a six-man rotation during busy stretches and to provide depth if one of the unproven arms gets hurt. The upper minors and major leagues combined feature plenty of pitching upside, so maybe someone like Michael Pineda would provide a steady complement. As a bonus, he’d have value in trade if (when?) Kansas City starts slow and wants to retool for 2023.
Detroit Tigers
Primary: Top-End Starter, Shortstop
Secondary: Catcher, Pitching Depth
The Tigers have already made two meaningful additions in Eduardo Rodriguez and Tucker Barnhart. Both address positions of need — Eric Haase needed a running mate, and the team badly needed some innings and stability to add to their exciting trio of young starters. As it stands today, the team already looks more complete than it did when the 2021 season ended.
A marquee shortstop would further the transformation. Detroit’s top two hitting prospects could arrive soon, but even with them up, the team will have a hole at short. Rumors have them in pursuit of Carlos Correa, and he’d be an incredible fit. Corey Seager, Trevor Story, and Javier Báez would make sense as backup plans. They could angle for depth outfielders and depth pitching as well, but using payroll flexibility to add a superstar shortstop should be at the top of the team’s list.
Minnesota Twins
Primary: Rotation
Secondary: Left Field, Rotation
Should I have listed rotation twice? Maybe not, but I think it drives my point home. The Twins are desperately thin at starter. Three pitchers topped 100 innings for them in 2021, and none will be back next year. They’re gone for varying reasons — trade for José Berríos, free agency for Michael Pineda, and injury for Kenta Maeda — but that’s a heaping helping of innings to make up for a team whose lineup is built to compete now.
If they so desire, the team could fill several of those spots in free agency. I like the current top trio of Bailey Ober, Joe Ryan, and Randy Dobnak, but to my eyes, only Ryan has top-of-rotation upside, and that’s certainly no lock — a fastball-only pitcher who sits 91 mph isn’t a traditional profile for an ace, to say the least. Signing Max Scherzer probably isn’t in the cards, but what about Marcus Stroman or Robbie Ray? I’m personally quite down on Kevin Gausman, but I’m certainly not in line with the consensus opinion on him; if the Twins like him, they could get in on the bidding.
Even if they’re not interested in that tier of pitcher, they need some arms. What about Jon Gray, Steven Matz, or Alex Cobb? Could Kwang Hyun Kim, Anthony DeSclafani, or a reunion with Michael Pineda be a cost-effective solution? The Twins are basically four deep in starters, and they need to be seven to eight deep. Left field would be a nice place to fix, but I’d likely ignore it unless there’s an incredible bargain to be had; otherwise, I’d spend every available resource this offseason on starting pitching.
Chicago White Sox
Primary: Second Base
Secondary: Rotation, Right Field
The primary/secondary naming convention isn’t a perfect way of describing Chicago’s needs. They don’t really need to fill any of these positions, though they’ll likely find someone other than Romy Gonzalez. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if Gonzalez got some run — he’s done nothing but hit in the minors — but after trading away Nick Madrigal, finding some extra options at second would be nice. Me? I might re-sign Leury García to back up second and third, then roll the dice with Gonzalez.
I’d plow that savings into the rotation. The White Sox had a fearsome pitching staff last year, but losing Carlos Rodón takes it from league-topping to merely excellent. I thought that was a standout part of Chicago’s season, and I’d like to see them try to recreate it by signing a pitcher this offseason. They seem unlikely to bid on Rodón again, given that they didn’t extend him a Qualifying Offer, but I’d still like at least one more solid pitcher to make Dallas Keuchel less necessary.
Of course, free agency isn’t the only route available here. The team has already announced its intention to trade Craig Kimbrel. He’ll likely fetch some kind of prospect haul, but if the team really wants to, they could focus on getting back a pitcher who can contribute in 2022, either in the bullpen or via spot starts. This team is built both for now and the future — but a few more arms might help both sides of that equation.
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I think Cleveland needs to look at their bullpen as well. Right now they have Clase (dominant season), Karinchak (sometimes dominant, sometimes horrible). Sandlin (pitched well but coming off a shoulder strain injury). Gose (looked great but it was only 6.2 innings), and Stephan (Rule 5 draftee who was so-so).
It’s Cleveland so there’s a good chance they’ll go the cheap route again and target the Bryan Shaws and Blake Parkers of the world once again. But it seems like at some point they need to upgrade their bullpen and find some longer-term solutions. Particularly since the starting rotation isn’t quite as strong as it was a few years ago, meaning the bullpen will likely shoulder a bigger role.
The Twins are currently without a starting shortstop. Royce Lewis was their shortstop of the future, but he hasn’t played a minor league game in two years and is coming off an ACL injury. They moved Jorge Polanco to second because his defense is a far better fit there, and former shortstop of the future Nick Gordon doesn’t appear to be an answer at short no matter if the team intends to compete or not.
The Twins have several COF/1b/DH players (Kirilloff, Larnach, Rooker) on their 40-man, and Jake Cave (50 OPS+ in 2021, 95 for his career) presumably remains with the team because he had an option left & isn’t a free agent until 2025. Given the effect a shortstop can have in a pitching staff, this seems to be a place of greater need than left field.
Agreed, Larnach and Rooker are pieces that can be traded to obtain a pitcher.
Calling the Pirates rebuild unending is a bit odd, as it only started after the 2018 season and there is a clear vision with direction now. Cherington inherited a middle of the road farm system with few valuable players to trade for future returns. It’s a long rebuild, but pretty much as good as you could expect considering where this organization was at the conclusion of 2018. I’ve waited since 2016 for a team with hope – I’m hoping we’ll be a 2021 Mariners/Tigers in 2023, and hopefully compete seriously for a playoff birth in 2024.
I’d also like to see the Pirates upgrade at backup catcher – Michael Perez hit about as well as NL Pitchers did last year.
The outfield will continue to be interesting. Last year’s 3 man ST competition between Fowler, Alford, and Goodwin was interesting, and then went to shit once the season started. I’m hoping Greg Allen won’t be the next name on that list.
Actually it started when Cherington was hired after 2019, “unending” is a cheap shot. A lot of what got the previous group in trouble was going for it at the deadline in 2018 with the Archer trade, not so long ago.
Thank you for the correction!
Indeed, the problem is that while it feels like the Pirates have been rebuilding since 2016 or 2017 they were actually just treading water and putting off their expiration date. The team was in denial until they hired Cherington.
It’s unending because they likely won’t sign any FA pitching they desperately need. So that keeps kicking the can on down the road, if they’re so siloed only on internal solutions and scrap heap pickups.
What about BC seems much different from Huntington? Picking up guys like Fowler and Alford feels like Jeff Clement and Lastings Milledge 2.0. Greg Allen won’t be any different. I get that they’re rebuilding, so throw some stuff at the wall is part of the deal. But “throw stuff at the wall” is the only thing I’ve seen so far.
I kinda feel the organization deserves all the cheap shots they get, newer GM or not.
Nutting deserves cheap shots, sure. But the new regime deserves a chance.
If the Pirates went out and grabbed two good FA starters they would win…. 75 games? What’s the point in spending to finish in 4th instead of 5th? Instead they’ll sign guys like Tyler Anderson and Trevor Cahill like they did last winter to eat innings and if they’re successful (like Anderson last year), flip them at the deadline for prospects.
Now if they refuse to spend still when the competitive window starts to open – sure take your shots. But taking fliers on no risk potential medium reward guys like Allen is pretty standard at this point of a rebuild.
As far as the difference between BC/Huntington, I would start with being honest with where the organization is at. Huntington spent 2016-2019 refusing to commit to a rebuild and also refusing to shove his chips in and compete.
Cherington recognized how garbage the org was top to bottom when he inherited it, and has built the 2nd best farm system in baseball in 2 years despite taking over when the MLB roster was bad. What more could you want from the guy 2 years into his regime?
I’m gonna keep saying this till I’m blue in the face because apparently some are unable or unwilling to see it. Sign the pitchers on the market in their range (Gray, Matz, etc) to three or four year deals. So while maybe they’re only going to 75 wins with those additions in 2022, they’ll have them for 23 and 24 as they add in Cruz/Davis/Gonzalez/Contreras.
Anderson brought lotto tickets, not really prospects. I wouldn’t expect him to bring anything more than that, but that’s the point. Aim for more than the “get me through August” types.
While I agree NH had very much lost his way by the end of his tenure, why do rebuilds in Pgh always need to take half a decade? Other organizations reload or revamp or rebuild at a quicker pace. Also the cupboard wasn’t bare when BC came aboard: Reynolds in the majors, Hayes on the doorstep, Priester/Cruz/Thomas/Swaggerty also in the minors. Pgh’s system was much worse when NH took over. BC has already made some good trades (Taillon and Marte) and mediocre ones (Musgrove, Frazier). Those can still change though.
If BC succeeds, I think it will be through development. Specifically, turning prospects into regulars or stars. NH failed with that, but if BC doesn’t, that’s a game changer. But they can’t succeed only by growing from within; they’re gonna have to go outside the organization at some point. Why not now when there is some talent in their range?
I can’t imagine what they would do with another pitcher. Contreras, Yajure, and Kranick deserve a shot. Keller, Brubaker, Brubaker, and Wilson probably deserve another look. That’s 7 deep. If they want to spend money they should lock up some of their young guns early.
You can’t imagine what they’d do with another arm? They’re in the bottom third in almost every pitching category: third most walks, fourth most homers, fourth fewest strikeouts, fourth worst FIP, etc.
Basically any starting pitcher they sign on the market will be better than the guys they had last year. And I’m guessing your second Brubaker is Stephen Brault? I’d cut bait on him.
For arguments sake, let’s say they shock us all and sign both Gray and Matz. I think your rotation to start is likely Gray/Matz/Wilson/Brubaker/Keller. Those last two especially shouldn’t get a long leash. Keller is now 26 and has mostly been wild and highly erratic and Brubaker is already 28 (today actually…happy birthday JT!) and incredibly homer prone.
Kranick seems cut from Keller’s cloth; unable to put guys away with his stuff and/or lacking in command which leads to long counts/short outings. Yajure I’d have as the first guy up if anyone in the rotation falters and Contreras right behind him.
If they were feeling ultra aggressive, I’d look at taking a page out of the Rays book and making Keller a multi inning option in relief.
Whoops, no, the second Brubaker was an error. Brault and Crowe are filler. So that’s six deep. So I they’d have room for one guy if they wanted.
Gray is probably looking at a deal in the 3/$45M range and Matz is probably looking at a deal between 3/$30M and 3/$45M, so it’s possible that would represent the largest free agent contract the Pirates would ever have signed. Personally, I’d see if I could fix Dylan Bundy instead. He’s something like a year and a half younger than Matz, and I think more than half a year younger than Gray.
I think the big question is, why don’t you think the guys they have should get a long leash? Keller and Kranick might be piggyback starter / MIRP types but they should get a shot. Wilson and Brubaker were kind of messes last year but they showed flashes in 2020 and haven’t gotten a ton of big league experience. I don’t think it makes sense for teams to constantly be shuffling guys back and forth from AAA when you want to give them a shot to see how they do in the majors. Squeezing an extra win out in 2021 is really not that important if it means you miss on a guy who can be a contributor for the next 4-5 years.
Frankie Liriano is, I believe, the largest deal they signed (who was pawned off to Toronto in 2016, when he went south). And his was around 3 years, $45M. Bundy is a good option. Alex Cobb maybe as the second signing. They should have snatched up Miley.
Why don’t I think Keller should get a long leash? Because he’s mostly been a gas can as a starter, that’s why. He can’t put hitters away consistently, his command wavers constantly. And it’s not like this is a just in the majors thing; back in 2018 when he jumped to Altoona, his walk rate spiked and it’s been a problem ever since. And since his stuff is good but not great, it’s still been an issue.
I’m not in favor of shuffling guys back and forth to AAA either, and I’m not advocating that. I’d much rather them commit to piggybacking with these guys who may be more productive in shorter bursts. For Keller and Brubaker, I certainly wouldn’t give them much more time as conventional starters. There’s a good bit of info we have right now that they aren’t good at it.
So sign Gray and Bundy or Matz. Roll with those two plus Wilson and let Brub/Keller/Kranick wrestle each other for the last two spots with the loser going to MIRP. Yajure and Contreras at the ready in AAA. With decent pitchers on multi year deals they’re able to break in Yajure and Contreras as well (who are hopefully better) and then pray that Priester is the real deal too. They really don’t have much in terms of pitching prospects, so at some point they’ll need to go outside for help.
I’m a little unclear why you say they don’t have much in terms of pitching prospects. There are currently 28 pitchers on FG’s top 100. The Pirates have 4 of those pitchers. 4 is the most any team has in the top 100.
That’s fair. I’m pretty low on Thomas and not as high on Yajure. However, I don’t think the top 100 is nearly as strong as it was a few years ago in terms of pitching prospects. The 2019 updated list had 13 pitchers at a 55 or higher. The 2021 list had four. Now some of that is undoubtedly due to 2020 scattering prospects all over in terms of their progress. But I don’t think that explains the entire gap either.
Those prospects from 2019 are: Whitley, Gore, May, Mize, McKay, Puk, Kopech, Sanchez, Luzardo, Patino, Manning, Pearson, Anderson. Some of those guys have had major roadblocks or injury issues since then. Most of them in fact. So just because the Pirates have the most pitching prospects in the top 50, it doesn’t mean much or any of it will translate.
How much does Kimbrel really bring back in trade? What’s his market? He’s a closer on a one year deal at $16M. Assuming the White Sox don’t eat any of that, there isn’t a lot of excess value there to justify prospects and only teams planning on contending and with payroll flexibility are going to be interested. Teams like that typically won’t want to part with any starting pitcher that looks like he might contribute. Maybe they can flip him for a RF or 2B? I’m not sure what contending team has one of those to spare.
So you need a team with money to spend, a chance to win, and either a 40-man crunch or an “overpaid” starter at 2B, RF, or SP who is blocking an MLB ready prospect. I don’t know who fits that description.
I’d upvote this twice if I could. I think they fell a bit victim to the sunk cost fallacy picking up his option.
Maybe they could trade him for Madrigal
I understood why the White Sox made that trade but after not picking up Hernandez’s option and seeming to want to move on from Kimbrel…I think it’s fair to say it worked out very badly.
I think they probably need to hang on to him and hope he recovers.
That’s been my assumption. They would probably be able to move him at the deadline if he pitches well, but if he performs and they are in the race they will want to keep him.
I’m thinking he spends the year with the White Sox unless he is so bad as to be released which seems really unlikely.
He’s a closer on 1y/$16M, true, but he’s not just any closer, he’s Craig Kimbrel. Even with his highly disappointing stint with the White Sox, he still had an excellent season overall (2.2 fWAR!) because he was so absurdly dominant with the Cubs. The free agent RP options are not particularly bountiful this off-season, either. Toronto, San Diego, and Philly are top of the list of destinations, since they want to win, are willing to spend money, and badly need bullpen help.
Maybe the Phillies want to move Segura if they sign someone like Semien or Baez? But if your market is “maybe Segura,” that proves your point.
Yeah, Kimbrel for Segura makes a lot of sense for the White Sox. I don’t think they’re gonna offload his salary *and* get a good player back, that’s a lot to ask. But the team is better served with that salary going towards a position of greater need.
The Dodgers need a closer, though they might want the White Sox to kick in money
Feels like the development of the Royals, Guardians and Tigers young pitching this coming year is going to be hugely important to how the AL central sets up for the next few years. Seems like there is a very wide range of potential outcomes for Lynch, Bubic, Singer, Kowar, Lacy in KC and Skubal, Mike, Manning in Detroit. Cleveland is a little different because their guys have been up a little longer, but Bieber, Civale, Quantrill, Plesac, and McKenzie have all been inconsistent, injured or both.
How those pitchers all develop feels like it could make or break everything for those teams.
Have to agree on the rotation needs times at least two for the Twins. Would add they definitely need a plan at short, another Simmons-style signing seems most likely. Big picture they have to decide what they want 2022 to be which presumably determines the approach with Buxton and that impacts all their other decisions.
2022 is probably not going to be a good year no matter what. They need pitching, but most 5th starter types will do. The bigger question is whether they want to keep Buxton to be part of the next good Twins team in 2023 or 2024 or if they don’t think he can stay healthy.
If they move Buxton they shouldn’t stop there.
Especially if the Tigers are active with top FA.
Chicago is unlikely to get worse, Cleveland is in their second/third year of stealth rebuild and already at .500 after losing their opening day rotation, and KC is a year or so behind them. The AL central isn’t going to be weak much longer.
The twins have to either find a way to fill a lot of holes or just punt ’22/23. And if Buxton isn’t on the field in ’22 he’d better not be on the roster.
It’s a tough spot to be in but once they moved Berrios it only got tougher.
They do have quite a bit of upper minors pitching talent. Hopefully a number of those guys can get their feet wet in 2022 and be ready for a larger role in 2023.
I honestly think it’s a bit disingenuous to say that CLE is currently undergoing a budget crunch. They’ve stated multiple times that the payroll will increase this year, and they are currently looking for a new minority owner, to inject more cash into the team.
Second to that, they have one of the best farm systems in the league and have enough capital to trade for a piece or two without shedding any one from the ML roster.
Why do they need to find a minority owner to raise cash? The Dolan family is reportedly worth about $4.6B which makes them one of the 5 richest ownerships in MLB, ahead of the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Cubs.
https://www.audacy.com/sports/mlb/gallery/the-richest-mlb-owners-ranked-by-net-worth#-2-5–3-5-billion–the-battle-for-la-ckafj8zx4004x3h620g6cvevf
I respect his right not to spend his money and say the team needs to support itself independent of his other assets, but trying to attract people to give them more money for him to spend seems a little sketchy.
Because the Dolan family doesn’t own the Guardians. Two specific members of the Dolan family (Larry and Paul) own the Guardians. The article that you linked to includes the assets of the while Dolan family, many of whom have no stake in the Guardians. In particular, James Dolan holds the bulk of the family fortune. James is the nephew/cousin of the owners of the Guardians. Obviously, they can’t tap into James’ money to run the franchise.
I think that if a team misses out on a top shortstop and thinks Rosario is an upgrade that he would be the ideal guy to trade. Gimenez doesn’t have any trade value at all at the moment, Arias probably doesn’t have enough value to fetch a major league ready outfielder, and Rocchio is the future.
Guardians reportedly got lots of calls re: Rosario when they traded for him last year. His solid season certainly didn’t hurt his trade value (though his defense at short left a lot to be desired).
As for Arias, he’s a 50-grade prospect, borderline top 100, who just put in a full season at AAA. Not sure why the Guardians couldn’t turn him into a MLB ready outfielder if they wanted to go that route.
Because he’s not ready.
And if he were they’d move Rosario to 2B or LF. Which tbey still might. His glove is barely adequate but his bat plays.
Well the question isn’t whether or not Arias is MLB ready. The question is whether or not you can trade him for a MLB-ready outfielder. I maintain that you can. Again, we’re talking about a 50FV, roughly top 100 prospect who just finished a full year at AAA at age 21 where he hit ,284/.348/.454 while playing solid defense at short. That’s someone who definitely has value.
That would be true if the team were to write off ’22. Which might happen but is the least likely outcome for Rosario. If he gets traded at all, fans will torch the ballpark.
If Cleveland makes a trade it will be shipping out prospects out of options and it won’t be for ML ready help. Nobody is going to help them deal with tbeir roster crunch.
“I honestly think it’s a bit disingenuous to say that CLE is currently undergoing a budget crunch. They’ve stated multiple times that the payroll will increase this year”
Eh, ownership has demonstrated repeated budget cuts at a time when (a) the game was reportedly awash with money, and (b) they had the pieces in place to make a serious run. Now that neither of those are true, I think the author can be forgiven for thinking they’ll continue their penny-pinching behavior.
Or put another way: I’ll believe in a meaningful budget increase when I see it.
Yeah I guess it depends on how you interpret the phrase budget crunch. Payroll will likely increase this coming year though it would be hard to cut it even further than what it was last year. At the same time, they’re definitely going to fall short of their pre-Covid spending levels. So that feels pretty crunchy to me…
The ‘Dians are a tough team to predict because their big problems aren’t publicly analyzable.
With Samson as a minority partner and chipping in support, they could run $100M or more, stretching to $150. But losing his checkbook and, worse, having to raise the cadh to buy him out was a double whammy. Finding a replacement has taken surprisingly long; either there isn’t a big bucks investor willing to be second fiddle or there isn’t one at all which does not bode well for the franchise.
On the pure baseball side, there are almost as many unknowns because most of the farm, while deep, lost a full year so their top prospects (who were in A ball in ’19 and should be knocking on tbe door totbe show) are all a year older than their development. Which leaves them with a serious 40 man roster crunch and a long list of questions about their top prospects and top MiL performers who are two different groups. They have no surefire stars but they have a lot of (relatively) high ceiling potential guys.
The FO has a heck of a job sorting out who, if anybody, is worth betting on, who needs more seasoning, and who is a bust. They won’t be spending on tbe top FA but they can afford a couple of above average talents. Who might end up blocking a potentially superior talent in ’23 or sooner.
At a different time, they would be justified in bringing in aging names on make good deals and hope on the kids but ’22 won’t be that kind of year. With the name change on top of the recent financial moves they need to be presentable or risk losing the fanbase for a decade or more. The fans are restless.
The Team page on the local newspaper site has in recent months featured a couple of blistering fan OpEds. That the local media published them suggests they reflect the mood of tbe long term team followers. Dolan has never been a fan favorite like Jacobs and the folks who stuck with the team are precisely the ones furious with the name change. The FO has very little leeway. So when they say they will spend there is no telling how much or how. But tbeir credibiity with the season ticket and loge fanbase is at stake. And unlike some teams that have TV deals that make them a profit regardless of attendance Cleveland *needs* those ticket sales and today they can’t count on a single one.
The team is a total wild card.
Too many variables.
They might pull a Detroit and do a couple of rush moves next week or do nothing until the new CBA is in play. Or nothing at all.
Eddy Alvarez would be a nice addition to either Cleveland Guardians team.
“Pittsburgh isn’t trying to win this year, and it’s a good thing”
How?
Because they have no path to being good that doesn’t hurt them in 2023 and beyond
No, but they can lay groundwork for 2023 and beyond by signing some pitchers to 3-4 year deals. They’re allowed to do that. In fact, it should be encouraged!
Who will go to Pittsburgh that could go to Toronto, Anaheim, Washington or the Cubs?
If you actually offer more money or years than Washington, you can sign them. The Pirates did that years ago with Russell Martin when he left New York.
I don’t know, a guy coming off TJ surgery and who pitched a whole 6 innings in 2020 and 2021 combined just got a two year, $50M deal with an opt out. Another guy coming off TJ and who had something like 2 innings in 2020 and 2021 and who hasn’t been cleared to throw breaking balls just got $21M. This pitching market is really different than signing a catcher to a 2 year, $17M deal because no one else understands the value of pitch framing.
If you decide you want to win a bidding war at all costs, you’ll win it. But normally when you win a bidding war it means you’ve messed up, because by definition you’ve valued a player more than 29 other teams. So unless you think your owner will write off bad contracts and not throw a fit when Alex Cobb or James Shields isn’t the pitcher you hoped for (which I would entirely support, but is unfortunately all too rare) it’s not exactly a winning play.
Verlander just got $25M.
Would he goto Pittsburgh for $30M?
Would it help enough to justify the expense?
At his age and coming from TJ?
I’m betting: no and no.
With Houston he has one of tbe better offenses, a good bullpen, and he doesn’t have to be the best starter. Might not be, either.
No, he wouldn’t. But I’m not talking about guys like Scherzer/Kershaw/Verlander. I’m talking about guys below that who are still useful.
Money isn’t everything and the kind of player that willingly goes to the worst team in baseball just for the money isn’t going to be much help to the team. The kinds of players good enough to do that would rather have a shot at the playoffs. Which don’t forget come with bonus money.
Realistically the kind of player that might go to Pittsburgh for the money is not the kind Pittsburgh needs or wants. They need to be closer to contention before it makes any sense to spend.
Money is probably at least 80% of the reason players sign though. It isn’t everything, but it’s by far the most important thing.
Also I’ve heard the “they need to be closer to contending before spending” canard before. That time never comes.
Because the rest of the operation is full of holes.
When has a bottom team become competitive from Free Agency alone? FA are the finishing touch, filling in the gaps on a competitive feam.
If we were talking Cleveland, yes, spending on a pair of OF would mzke a difference, but Pittsburgh isn’t there. You can’t take a 100-loss team to 100 wins with FA. The money ix bdst speng on the farm and buying bad contracts.
What Pittsburgh might do is talk to tbe ChiSox about Kimbrel + a prospect or two. And then eat half the salary andflip him for two more prospects. They need lottery tickets for ’25 more than tbdy need 2-3 war from a FA.
First off, I’m not saying to only build through FA or that a few good, not outlandish FA signings take them to 100 wins. I’m not sure where you read that, but good straw man. And FA doesn’t have to be a finishing touch. It certainly wasn’t when the Nats signed Werth. And hell, Gray’s contract will be roughly 1/3-1/2 of that.
Another thing; what’s the market for SP’s look like next year? It’s not good for Pgh at all. Who’s the best there…Minor? Odorizzi? Not nearly as good as it is this season.
The thing that bothers me is they currently have a cheap star OF, and a cheap 3B who could join him as a star this year. So they’re just gonna waste their cheap years trying to thread the needle. Shorter term FA pitchers like Gray/Matz only bump their total payroll to 75 million. That happens while they start to sprinkle in Swaggerty/Cruz/Yajure/Contreras in 22, and maybe they get some breakouts.
I understand that the tank mindset is now gospel here, but I don’t see why this is true.
Spending $40m to put a team of Ka’ai Toms, Michael Perezes, and Philip Evanses on the field may be good for the Pirates’ bottom line, but it is an embarrassment to the game of baseball. If they had $60m to spend to get them to a level commensurate with what they were spending 7 seasons ago, could they put average or better players on the field who simultaneously wouldn’t block the prospects who are still two years away? I think they could.
I have no problem with them trying to catch lightning in a bottle with a post-hype prospect who just needs a real chance (Alford might fit this bill), but no one who they gave chances to was particularly young or had given any indication that they had some overlooked talent that the Pirates could harness.
I’d argue that the Pirates have done more damage to their post-2023 chances by punting the last two years for how it decimated what had been a recovering fan base. They may come back if the team gets good again, but I suspect they will be twice as cynical before committing their dollars to supporting the team. That does far more harm than signing some stop gap FAs and winning 75 games instead of 58 does.
The Pirates are one of the reasons why some people support a minimum payroll requirement.
They definitely could spend $60m like they did back then and the team would be better for it. If they punt a third season in a row, that just harms the fan base even more and destroys whatever goodwill is left.
And to be honest, the damage might already be done. If they end up turning it around with an 85 win team in 2023, they won’t automatically start drawing well. In 2016, as they started going downhill, they drew 2.5M, which was 19th in MLB. I’d think they’d need to put a competitive team out there for most of a decade to rectify that.
Better? Sure.
More relevant? No.
And that is in a weak division.
$60m might buy 6-7 wins. And get to 72-75.
Is that more watcheable?
Pittsburgh is in a deep hole you can’t buy your way out of.
Trotting out a horde of 4A types can get you a MaxMuncy or Chris Taylor while buying time for the farm to produce its next class.
That isn’t tanking, it is accepting reality.
Buy prospects not FA.
I’ll say it again, because you keep ignoring it…the FA’s I’m advocating they sign aren’t one year deals. Therefore they have them in 22, then 23 when they’re better, and 24 as well.
Building solely from within with almost zero outside help (the path you’re advocating) doesn’t work either.
I think I’d rather see KC give Olivares and Isbel some run before going out and signing some free agent OFs.
The million-dollar question for the Brewers is whether they think Yelich would be healthier and a better hitter at first base than in left field. He’s been having back problems and while I don’t know whether first base would be better or worse for him than left field, it’s got to at least be an option.
In a previous article, Dan suggested that the Brewers could go after Starling Marte. I’m not sure they’re in the mood to outbid a bunch of large market teams but since almost all of the teams that could use him are up against the tax line it’s possible. I would think he’d be a great addition, as he’s exactly the sort of big bat that would help them out. The only other big bat that might be available is Matt Olson if they’re willing to trade some talented players, but it’s unclear what it would take to land him and whether they’re contemplating shifting Yelich to first.
I wouldn’t be a huge fan of signing Conforto to a pillow deal–I’d think a lower AAV but slightly longer term deal for Canha or Garcia would make more sense, since their core pitchers are under control for a while, just as a way to lengthen the lineup.
I also wonder if there is a way to upgrade at third base, since Urias was -3 OAA at third in his brief time there. He might more sense as a left fielder or a second baseman, and since he’s young and has oodles of team control and is now hitting, he’d also be the most likely trade bait. But I suspect that they’d be happy to hang on to him if the right deal doesn’t materialize and hope his defense at third base picks up (which is possible if they just stop shifting him around). And since Kris Bryant is potentially out of their price range, Matt Chapman is starting to have trouble with contact again, and Josh Donaldson is very expensive, the other options are pretty limited.
They’re going to let Urias sink or swim at 3B next year. If there were an obvious FA / trade option at 3B, or if they had a hole at 2B that needed filling, I could see using him as a super-utility guy, but neither of those are true.
They’re well-positioned to add offense this standpoint from the standpoint that their positions of need — corner OF and 1B — are places where bat-first players can be found. Marte would make sense, or Brandon Belt if they want to go the 1B route. I’d pass on Conforto just based on the draft pick cost, since there are other options out there.
Belt’s no longer an option. He accepted the Giants’ qualifying offer.
Trade concept: Kimbrel for Adam Frazier, who says no? Maybe some extra parts in there one way or another ofc.
I think the White Sox might need to cover salary or throw in someone like Burger or Sheets, but otherwise it seems like a fair trade.
Sheets seems like a lot for a throw-in given how he hit last year, esp vs RHP. Frazier’s gonna be in arb 3 and estimated to get $7-8M, so the difference would be about $8M. White Sox could eat a couple million maybe, but it’s not that much. Alternatively, if the Padres want to dump one of their frequently hurt/ineffective starters (Lamet, Clevinger, Snell), something could be worked out there too. I presume San Diego wants to hold onto Ha-Seong Kim, I could see them trading away Frazier for someone useful and letting Kim and Abrams compete for 2B in spring training.
If you built a Twins/Marlins “lottery special” deal around Buxton, Royce Lewis, and Sixto Sanchez, who would need to add to the deal?
I don’t think the Twins would trade Lewis with his value so low at the moment. Better to keep him at this point. Also Sixto Sanchez didn’t pitch at all in 2021 and had shoulder surgery. His trade value is extremely low until he can prove that he’s somewhat healthy. I don’t think they’d trade Buxton straight up for Sixto tbh. They would simply trade for someone who actually played in 2021 imo. As the headliner, I mean. I’m sure they would take a buy low guy as the 2nd or 3rd piece in a deal.
Since the Marlins need a catcher, it would make more sense for the Twins to trade Garver or Jeffers for one of their pitchers.
To be fair, they also could use an upgrade at center.
I agree that Jake Woodford should be the Cardinals’ 7th starter, while Alex Reyes would be the 6th (and maybe Liberatore the 8th?). They need to sign one decent starter to fill out the rotation before they get to them, although Reyes will still be given a shot at the rotation in Spring Training.
Beyond that though, you didn’t mention their bullpen, where they still need to sign at least 2 more relievers to Major League deals before the depth looks comfortable there.
Jackie Bradley Jr just had a 35 wRC, I am not convinced he is anything resembling “OK”
Not really sure what the Sox are doing. I hated the Kimbrel trade the second it happened. Now they need a 2B and they just gave up a cost controlled potential 3-WAR 2B for nothing. They seem half (2/3?) committed to spending and winning, but not quite willing to do what it takes. They really do need another starter. Maybe they think Kopech is ready for the rotation, but that hardly seems clear.
Not that I matter, but I basically agree with all you wrote here.
Jackie Bradley is “OK”? I’m not an expert, but I’ll go out on a limb and say he was one of the worst outfielders in the majors last year.
I went to see just how bad Bradley was and you’re right. What was amusing, though, was that when I searched the leaders page for OF, before changing PAs to 0, the worst OF in baseball last year? World Series MVP Jorge Soler. Obviously he wasn’t a full time OF but still interesting to me.
My offseason wishlist for the Cubs…as of right now anyway
FAs:
Kris Bryant 3B – He’s going to be the steal of the FA class. Bryant’s price is going to be
essentially dirt cheap for the talent level after an extremely successful (highly welcomed too) half decade+ campaign by the owners and their media explaining that Actually this player, despite the whale
of a resume and being one of the better hitters and athletes in the sport, is Not That Good. See our proprietary stats we launched a few years ago! Gd plebs ate it up to win $20 bucks in fantasy baseball or whatever, our owners laugh to the bank as the gaps widen, shills argue the almighty Data our owners give us say otherwise plus have you seen what Athlete X makes (or now might make One Day if we don’t get ahead make some noise!) etc etc…Anyway, in a sport where Nelson Cruz is a stud into his 40s, it blows my mind how this player is viewed and how easy it was for the owners to make it happen
Michael Lorenzen RHSP – One of the handful best athletes in the sport, deep pitch mix, power stuff, lots of health…seems like an obvious convert candidate to me and nobody wants it more
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Steven Matz LHP – One of the harder throwing SPs available (Cubs SPs were deeeead last in avg velocity), a velocity jumper in recent years so he’s as healthy as ever, new sinker oriented pitch mix and approach may offer a blueprint for Brailyn Marquez, another somewhat underrated FA
Kyle Seager 3B/1B – Another player who, after a decade of being excellent, was announced as Actually Not That Good by Disney’s ESPN and etc heading into FA. At 35, looking for him to compliment the 3B and 1B mix
Freddy Galvis SS – Ideally this is Corey Seager, but at the core I’m looking for a LHH capable of playing SS. I like Jose Tena from the Cleveland org in the Rule 5 too if unprotected
Two or more of a mix of other bad periph good stuff pitchers….Conner Greene comes to mind and I’m too lazy…
They might be able to pursue a FA OFer but I like the fit for Keirmaier if available…So on…Nick Ahmed comes to mind too