Orioles Keeping J.J. Hardy for Themselves

Since it became clear that the 2014 Yankees weren’t very good, a lot of people in our chats started asking about the 2015 Yankees. Specifically, a lot of people started asking about the shortstop for the 2015 Yankees, since they’re not going to have Derek Jeter, in a different way from how the 2014 Yankees didn’t really have Derek Jeter. A name I kept arriving at was J.J. Hardy — he was due to be a free agent, and he’s pretty good, and he’d cost plenty without costing plenty. He seemed like a good option for a Yankees team that might not want to break the bank. Also, he’s not an option anymore.

In the break between playoff series, the Orioles have signed Hardy to a multi-year extension:

In re-signing Hardy, the Orioles are getting for about market value a player who is no longer young but who is not yet a problem. That sentence is all the analysis you need, but now let’s get into some details you might want.

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You might somewhat recognize the structure of the contract. It’s not the exact same, but it’s similar to the contract to which the Cardinals signed Jhonny Peralta last offseason. Peralta was given a guaranteed four years and $53 million, which surprised some people who didn’t believe in his defense. Hardy’s getting basically the same money for three years, and he has a shot at a fourth. Sensible enough; Peralta and Hardy occupy the same mental tier.

I should note, though, that Peralta was being signed for ages 32 through 35. Hardy’s going to be a little bit older than Peralta was when he debuted with St. Louis. And over the three years leading up to the free-agent contract, Peralta was worth 11 WAR by our estimates, with a 109 wRC+. Hardy, over the last three years, in more playing time, has been worth 9.5 WAR, with an 89 wRC+. People believe a lot more in Hardy’s defense than they do in Peralta’s defense, but Peralta’s defensive performance has still been at least fine, and Hardy’s the inferior bat. So, Peralta had arguments in his favor, is the point.

But I suppose if you believed in all of Peralta’s numbers, the Cardinals were getting him for something of a bargain. Hardy’s a good player, and he’s long been a good player, and no matter what you think of WAR as a statistic, this at least implies a very solid asset:

  • 2010: 2.2 WAR (375 PA)
  • 2011: 4.3
  • 2012: 2.7
  • 2013: 3.4
  • 2014: 3.4

Hardy’s offense has been a little difficult to figure out. His wRC+ has recently bounced from 93 to 113 to 78 to 100, and this past season he hit just nine home runs. Overall, Hardy’s been a below-average bat, and because of his tendency to pop the ball up he’s run some fairly low BABIPs. But the Orioles aren’t fond of Hardy because of his All-Star offensive productivity. At the plate, he’s good enough. In the field is where Hardy seems to shine through.

He’s one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball, according to Defensive Runs Saved. He’s one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball, according to UZR. He’s one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball, according to Inside Edge, and he’s one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball, according to the Fan Scouting Report. Everybody loves Hardy’s defensive work, and while he’ll never be confused for Andrelton Simmons, Hardy’s a defender without any flaws. He doesn’t make a lot of errors, he converts the routine plays, he converts a lot of the non-routine plays, and he’s one of the better shortstops around when it comes to starting or turning the double play. Here is a gratuitous J.J. Hardy defensive .gif, to break up the text:

HardyLucroy

Hardy isn’t going to get better as he ages, but he’ll start the contract from a high level. And it’s worth considering the organizational context in which he’s being signed — Manny Machado just suffered another injury, and he’s proven to be an outstanding defensive third baseman, so the Orioles were presumably less willing than ever to move Machado back over a few steps. And while the Orioles’ system doesn’t literally have zero shortstops in it, it’s not a position of strength or depth, so Hardy keeps a position from becoming a hole. Without him, there were no realistic internal replacements.

I want to say something about Hardy’s offense, and it does trouble me a little. Hardy, for a while, was known for his outstanding contact skills. Used to be he maintained a contact rate in the upper 80s. This past season he dropped to 81%, and his strikeouts went up as a consequence. Between 2013 and 2014, 237 players batted at least 250 times in each season. Hardy just had the fifth-highest strikeout-rate increase, and the third-greatest contact-rate decrease. Curiously, Hardy made the same amount of contact within the zone. But his contact rate on pitches out of the zone plummeted, and unlike Devin Mesoraco, Hardy didn’t pair that with a huge power breakout. Hardy just put the bat on the ball less, especially on pitches down or away.

It’s possible that bodes poorly for Hardy’s offensive future. But then, it’s also possible he’s just adjusting to getting older, and it’s alternatively possible that this is the result of Hardy playing a lot of games with a somewhat uncomfortable back. It didn’t seem to have an effect on his defense, but maybe Hardy was less able to reach when he was at the plate. The likelihood is that Hardy will remain a slightly below-average hitter in the coming years, but he might be changing as he approaches his mid-30s.

Ultimately, the Orioles have chosen to spend good money on a player they know well. He’s a player they like, obviously, and he’s a player for whom they don’t have an alternative, and even if you don’t love the idea of $40 million for a player like this, the fact that Hardy is so capable up the middle makes him tough to replace for cheap. Replacement-level shortstops don’t pair decent bats with above-average fielding. Hardy’s is a difficult skillset to acquire, and now the free-agent market is without one of its potential impact players. As shortstops go, Hanley Ramirez will be expensive and not a shortstop for long. Jed Lowrie isn’t really a shortstop, Asdrubal Cabrera isn’t really a shortstop, and Stephen Drew was just worth negative WAR. Hardy was the promising one, so now the Yankees in particular will have to scour the trade market. While the Orioles didn’t re-sign Hardy just to make the Yankees a little more frustrated, it makes for a delightful little side effect.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Spit Ball
11 years ago

Hmm, tis a weird time before the ALCS and all.

Joe
11 years ago
Reply to  Spit Ball

Maybe the influx of $$$ from a deep playoff run had Angelo’s suddenly open the purse strings

Tim
11 years ago

Hardy’s season was odd, due to some back issues. It’s those back issues that have me worried about the contract.

HutchMember since 2022
11 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Don’t worry, back injuries never linger.

Orsulakfan
11 years ago

I had been banking on a QA and the likely loss of Hardy. I thought the contract he would command would place him out of reasonable price-range for the Orioles, but this contract isn’t bad, assuming that back holds out. I think given the organization’s options, this was a good move. Manny is no longer an option, although there was some talk of moving Schoop (he has the arm for it, definitely). All in all, a good signing.

And as for timing, it adds a good feeling for the club going into this huge series tomorrow. JJ already gets a good ovation from the crowd, but it will be a little bigger and sweeter knowing he’s our SS for the next few seasons.

Sandy Kazmir
11 years ago
Reply to  Orsulakfan

The QO is a great point. That had to have been the team’s leverage. Hardy likely would have had to settle for the 1/15, which is nice, but a player in a slow and steady decline should be looking for years to go with fair dollars. Maybe he gets a better deal than this with the attached QO out there, but maybe he doesn’t. This seems like a nice place considering the cost on both sides.

tz
11 years ago
Reply to  Sandy Kazmir

Exactly. Especially when you consider that Hardy can look at Nelson Cruz as a worst case FA scenario when you get the QO tag. Or that the O’s can look at Ubaldo Jimenez as a worst case FA scenario if you have to outbid someone to fill a hole.

Carson Cyst-Stooly
11 years ago

Given the lack of options with free agent shortstops, if the Jays are able to dangle Reyes and net a return that would fill some of their other holes, I would be cool with this.

LHPSU
11 years ago

Actually, shortstop might be the richest position in free agency this fall. All the options are flawed, yes, but compared to, say, the turd that is the CF market…

T
11 years ago

Noah Syndergaard + Travis d’Arnaud for Reyes + some $$?

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  T

Ahahahaha.

That would be excellent.

Dustin
11 years ago

This seems, for now, to be the Orioles signing a SS… And it is. But this seems like yet another Dan Duquette/Buck Showalter attempt at keeping options open. Manny Machado may be the SS of the future. Or he could be the 3B of the future. Schoop could be the 2B of the future. Or he could be the 3B of the future. Well, now we know at least one thing… JJ Hardy is the SS of the immediate future. Could he ultimately be a 2B when his range diminishes? Possibly… It seems like the Orioles could potentially have, between these 3 players, a lot of options with regards to where they could play moving forward.

T
11 years ago
Reply to  Dustin

Schoop isn’t very good; for your team’s sake, I hope he isn’t the future for any of your positions.

CM
11 years ago
Reply to  T

You sound like someone who hasn’t seen the 22 year old play that much. Most Oriole fans love Schoop’s upside.

John Daker
11 years ago
Reply to  T

When his BABIP inevitably rises above .249 next year, I’m confident he’ll be entirely serviceable

bmay
11 years ago
Reply to  John Daker

A 13.9% LD% and 16.4% IFFB% likely mean that BABIP was not bad luck.

Dustin
11 years ago
Reply to  T

While Schoop hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire this year, he is playing his third season a level above where he really should be. I think most people who are paid to have smart opinions on this sort of thing absolutely see him as a starter moving forward for the Orioles, and I am pretty sure I agree with them. Schoop plays above average defense and shows a lot of potential with the bat… I don’t think anyone’s expecting him to be a superstar caliber player (no was I saying that), but it’s certainly not crazy to view him as a starter for the Orioles for the next handful of years.

Joseph
11 years ago
Reply to  T

I hope schoope, is with the orioles for a long time to come. Sure he is struggling with the bat, but he is also 22. It isn’t really a pronlem with schoope kust beimg a poor hitter. The only thing I see is a player whome is jist beimg way to aggressive at the plate. Oh yeah he isna rookie too. He has 15 homeruns which is good, really good at 2nd base and I think he is a 30 hr a year type of guy. But thate not the best part by far. Schoope is a grest 2md basemen fielding.. his arm looks justas stromg as MMachado, amd that is a big compliment. Plus turning his planted foor on dp balls makes him better and overall is a fielding besst. I truley, believe Davis gets his damn adderall next season and we see a raise of 50 points in his average. He would have hit 30 hr this year if not suspended. Plus Davis does draw his share of walks, and him makeing contact isnt necessarily a good thing strikeouts are a plus for Davis he avoids dp grounders. Just lock Cruz up, they habe to this mann wants to stay. He has hit 40hr, and single handedly is rhe reason we won tje Tigers series.Niw if he wants a pulhose deal that takes him into his 40s get real but he is unfortunately not signing a rhree year deal, 4 years 65 milion is steep but would be fair. I love Nick but I would roll the dice, I would not give him a big contract, I would have pearce in right as our starter. I do keep Delmon young om the bench too but I think he is under contract anyway.

to hmong and back
11 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I hope schoope, as well as the orioles have for a long time. Sure it is content with the bat, but he is 22. It’s not a pronlem with schoope kust beimg a hitter you are much less likely. Only that I saw, however, that if a person filing an whome is jist beimg’s aggressive at the plate. Oh is it isna rookie too. He has 15 homeruns as the best, truly effective from 2nd base and I think he is a 30 hr per year type of guy. But it is not in accordance with section thate time. Schoope is a grest 2md basemen fielding. It looks like MMachado, stromg justas amd that is a big compliment. Plus send his planted in foor dp toy for him and all that is the besst fielding. I truly believed Davis had his damn adderall next time and we see a raise of 50 points in their middle. He or she may hit 30 hr this year are not removed. Plus Davis signed part of territory, and it is not the best strikeouts is an addition to Davis his dp grounders. Just lock Cruz, they habe following eight Horace want to stay. It has 40hr, and one handedly by thunder because we are a dose of Tiger.Niw if she wanted to be a pulhose deal that takes him into his 40s seriously, but it is unfortunately not signed for one year, 4-year deal rhree 65 milion slope but must be honest. I love Nick but I’m going to roll the dice, I will not allow him a big contract, I’m going to have pearce under the law as we disabled. I’m going to make Delmon Young om the furniture too, but I think it can be found in the present.

Tim
11 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

You can make Delmon Young on the furniture if you want to (and he agrees) but please don’t tell us about it.

Jim
11 years ago
Reply to  T

Good assessment T

Orsulakfan
11 years ago
Reply to  T

Schoop destroys mistakes, is a good athlete, plays solid in the field (great arm at turning the DP), and has a great attitude. He also had great numbers against the Yankees this year, and a memorable 3-run homer against Tanaka. His plate discipline is atrocious, but he is a useful player, even at 22. As he is so young, he should improve a bit, and then he’ll be even more useful.

Jack
11 years ago

The prevention of Hardy going to the Yankees is not insignificant. It’s also doubtful that the Orioles have the trade chips to fill either SS or 3B adequately in the offseason (since they want to hold onto their top guys, and have little depth beyond that). The only other reasonably priced option for either SS or 3B in the free agent market is Chase Headley, who the Yankees definitely want to retain and who comes with many of the same question marks that Hardy does. Avoiding a bidding war with the Yankees for Hardy, knowing that their other best option is another bidding war over Headley, is a good call.

arc
11 years ago
Reply to  Jack

not insignificant

There’s a word for this.

John Thacker
11 years ago
Reply to  arc

Yes, litotes.

hookstrapped
11 years ago
Reply to  arc

with a nuanced not insignificant difference in meaning

A Rod
11 years ago

I thought I was the only one who got to make big announcements during the post season

baltic wolfMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  A Rod

You do. You get to insist that you didn’t do it. Doesn’t matter what you insisted you didn’t do, nobody will believe you.

Alex Rodriguez
11 years ago
Reply to  baltic wolf

*Wipes tear with $275mm contract =(*

RunTeddyRun
11 years ago
Reply to  Alex Rodriguez

$275,000,000.

It just seemed important to see it with all the zeroes.
$275,000,000.
Jesus.

Hurtlockertwo
11 years ago

I find it amusing the the Yankee lovers crowd still think the Yankees can buy anyone they want. The millstone, formally known as Arod, is going to put quite the kink in that solution.

Hurtlockertwo
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

Don’t pay attention to my previous comment. What I really wanted to say is that I’m stupid and annoying and trying to troll for comments. So please disregard ALL of my future posts because I have made it clear that I have nothing of value to say.

A Rod
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

Okay. I’ll let that big announcement slide.

ARod
11 years ago
Reply to  A Rod

Why is a rod posting on a baseball website?

CJ
11 years ago

Can Yankees keep Headley and put Arod in SS, or is this completely crazy??

sk
11 years ago
Reply to  CJ

that’s completely crazy.

Freakshow
11 years ago
Reply to  CJ

Not crazy, it’s delusional. You’ll be lucky if he’s even capable of not DHing.

Random fan
11 years ago
Reply to  CJ

This is a great idea, as this would increase the chance that A-Rod would suffer a career-ending injury before 2017. (/s)

Joshua Choudhury
11 years ago

I like this quite a bit for the Orioles. Hardy should provide some excess value even when accounting for decline, and given the relative paucity of other acceptable options at shortstop it might be an even stronger strategic move than a straight $/WAR calculation would indicate.

Jim S.
11 years ago

Great last line, Jeff.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago

Thank goodness this article considered how this impacts the Yankees.

Tim
11 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

And thank you for contributing to it continuing to work that way.

arc
11 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Yeah if Jeff had omitted the Yankees from this article, the population of the New York market would have decreased five-fold.

RunTeddyRun
11 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Holy crap, Jeff’s writing is responsible for keeping over three million New Yorkers alive??

They’re in good hands.

Johnston
11 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Yes, the Yankees absolutely must be mentioned in every baseball article. Preferably there should also be a reference to Derek Jeter.

santorumforpresident
11 years ago

Hardy had a very bizarre homerun drought from September of 2013 until June of 2014. The HR/FB rate was there in 2013 before the drought started and returned to more career normal rates before the back flared up in September. Seems like 20 homeruns is well within reach considering he’s hit 30,22, and 25 before this season.

Long-term though I wonder what this means for the prospects of Machado ever moving back to shortstop.

pft
11 years ago

Machado will never play SS again, 2 bad knees are the reason

hookstrapped
11 years ago

Another consideration that is hard to isolate and quantify, from Zach Britton:

“To work something out for him I think is important. You keep our leader in the middle of our infield intact. And you have some other guys. You’ve got Manny (Machado) who’s young, you’ve got (Jonathan) Schoop who’s young, and they lean on J.J. and I think people have overlooked that a little bit, how much he does to kind of help these guys mature at their positions, so it’s important that we sign him back.

“For me, gosh, he makes so many good plays that I couldn’t imagine not having him at shortstop with me pitching.”

baltic wolfMember since 2016
11 years ago

Buck thinks unconventionally. I can’t read his mind since, as far as baseball goes, he’s on another plane, but I’ll hazard a guess.

Schoop is a good fielder. Terrible hitter right now, needs to work on improving his walk rate and learning how to hit something other than high fastballs. But he’s only 22. If he follows Steve Pearce’s example and works his butt off to improve his game, we should see an improved hitter in the future.

Schoop has a strong arm. He and Hardy make a great double play combination, but if Hardy loses some range and Machado’s knees hold up, we can move Hardy to 2B, Manny to his natural position at SS and give Schoop a shot at 3B.

This signing not only keeps a pretty good defensive SS from leaving for a division rival, but it gives Buck flexibility as to how best to deploy his infielders for the next couple of years.

And while my gratitude to Buck for turning this franchise around borders on idolatry, I think it’s safe to say there are few managers in the game–if any–who know how to deploy their resources better than Buck Showalter.

Dustin
11 years ago
Reply to  baltic wolf

This was mostly what I was saying before… Buck and Duquette like having options. What gives you more options than 3 guys that can (could, I suppose in the case of Hardy playing 2nd) all play 2 different positions, theoretically? It’s one part thinking outside the box and 2 parts letting the talent/circumstance decide the move rather than the other way around. I truly believe that if all 3 of these guys are playing in the Orioles infield in 2016 it’s with Hardy at 2B, Machado at SS and Schoop at 3B.

foxinsoxMember since 2016
11 years ago

Lowrie has slightly above league average def numbers overall the last two years. Why is he not really a shortstop? Do you think the metrics are overrating him?

tz
11 years ago
Reply to  foxinsox

Must not look as good to the eye as say, Jhonny Peralta.

Brooks
11 years ago
Reply to  foxinsox

Anyone who watched Lowrie play shortstop the last two seasons would not be impressed with his defense. He shouldn’t be playing shortstop in the Major Leagues.

Don’t be fooled by the fangraphs positional adjustment. That metric doesn’t measure defensive skill or achievement.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago

Damn. Hardy was my ideal stopgap until The Next Big Thing arrives (it’s gotta happen sometime, right?)

Stupid Orioles, foiling the Evil Empire once again.

pft
11 years ago

The best value at SS just might be Stephen Drew. He is certainly a big candidate for a bounceback year and is the same age as JJ Hardy.

Hard to say what happened to Drew. From all accounts he was healthy. No ST can certainly explain his first 90-100 PA, and after that he looked to be coming out of it and was traded to the Yankees, where he had a few decent games on the road. Once he got to YS3 though, it looked like he tried to pull everything and things went south fast. Playing out of position also did not help, nor the fact that as time marched on he had the pressure to produce or lose millions.

Maybe back at his normal position and starting the year with a full ST he close tot he player he was in the 2nd half for the Red Sox.

Here is his summary which supports the thesis that YS3 killed him, or more accurately, perhaps his approach to that short porch. Would need to see the hit charts before and after to confirm

417 OPS through July 10 (92 PA)
888 OPS through Aug 30 (53 PA)
trade
839 OPS in 3 games on the road, playing 2B

239 OPS first homestand at YS3 with Yankees (6 games)
497 OPS final 118 PA

LaLoosh
11 years ago
Reply to  pft

reunion with the A’s? Lowrie in pinstripes?

Matthew TobinMember since 2016
11 years ago

I was going to say Hardy is one of those guys that seems better than he is offensively. But the career .278 BABIP keeps the average low. I mean it is hard to have a good BABIP when your IFFB% is 14%

Ryan Sullivan Kelley
11 years ago

Based on the scarcity of shortstops on the open market, and the general scarcity of reliable talent at the position, Hardy is an absolute steal. Outstanding job for the Orioles. It appears Duquette will have saved his club about 20 million over the next three years of this contract, and that’s unheard via the current free agent market.

One thing that’s poorly accounted for, even know adays, is the value of consistency and durability. Hardy has proven himself reliable in that he annually shows up for 3-4 wins for his team at the most difficult position to find production. Because the Orioles have him, they don’t have to invest in depth at the most expensive position to invest in depth at. And these days, depth is becoming more expensive. Additionally, you don’t have to burn precious roster room with players that can play shortstop adequately.

Yes, Hardy is aging at a position that encourages a massive decline in defensive productivity with every year after 32. But, he’ll be 35 after season 3 which isn’t that old. In fact, it’s the perfect age to get rid of him unless he looks as good as knew, in which case they don’t DL him and they give him a qualifying number of at bats for his affordable option to vest for the 4th season.

Given how talented he is, given the amount of recognition and exposure he’s getting from the team’s playoff run, given and how there will be 0 viable first-tier or second-tier options on the market, Hardy could’ve easily commanded 4 or 5 years and $70-$90 million via the free agent market. All of the wealthiest teams, hailing from the biggest markets next winter will be buying infielders, so I’m even amazed that Hardy didn’t test free agency.

Duquette is a genius. And I don’t think it’s a mistake how everything is falling into place for them (aside from Machado) after they looked like an one-shot/all-in team at the beginning of the season.

Wieters was set to drive his price through the roof after his hot April. Instead he’ll probably take a qualifying offer, while Davis went from totally unaffordable to a guy that will almost certainly be underpriced. Hardy was going to be the most difficult to hold on to, and they snagged him without a problem.

Now they even have enough money to pay Nelson Cruz, who will undoubtedly go from ridiculously undervalued last winter to a hot commodity if hits the market this winter. Power sticks around, and you don’t need to be more than a legitimate one-tool player to get a contract these days. The Yankees dropped a buttload for 3 years of an old Carlos Beltran with no legs last winter. Sure, Beltran is a difference maker in the playoffs and a switch-hitter, but he provides negative value in every aspect of the game except at the plate–just like Cruz. Cruz is three years younger and right-handed power that can hit it out of any park is becoming more scarce than left-handed power. On the open market I could see him grabbing $20 million a season for 4 years. Hopefully, the O’s can get him for 3x and $16 or so.

They should definitely invest some dollars in Andrew Miller as well. Yes, he’s a reliever. I know. But he’s left-handed and he has the best stuff of any southpaw in the game outside of Aroldis Chapman–who’s about as valuable of a commodity without his health concerns. Anyway, Andrew Miller is one of the two or three bullpen guys that can over-match elite-levels hitters from both sides of the plate in the late innings. You don’t find guys like that in free agency anymore. He’s a special pitcher, and his value isn’t properly quantified by WAR as he’s almost unparalleled in his ability, and he can be used in a number of roles and high-leverage situations.