Pirates Sign John Jaso, Obviously

As of this morning, at first base, the Pirates had the right-handed Michael Morse, and the right-handed Jason Rogers. As depth, there’s the right-handed Sean Rodriguez, and though the switch-hitting Josh Bell is on the way, he’s got his own stuff to figure out. So for the Pirates, there was an obvious need. They don’t have a lefty-heavy lineup, and last year they about tied for the highest rate of right-handed pitchers seen. The division projects to be righty-heavy again. The Pirates needed an affordable lefty for first.

Chris Davis is a lefty for first. But then, I said “affordable.” A week and a half ago, when Eno looked at this situation, he settled upon John Jaso. Now the word is out that the Pirates have signed John Jaso. He’s getting two years, and he’s getting $8 million, and if this isn’t the very most Pirates move, it’s at least in the conversation. It doesn’t get much more Pirates than this.

You know how the Pirates operate — they don’t operate at the top of the market. Some would argue they should, but that’s a different conversation. The point is, they don’t. They’re always trolling for potential bargains, and lately things have worked out pretty well for them. We’re observing another Pirates-style offseason. Instead of Mike Leake, they’ve got Jonathon Niese. Instead of Scott Kazmir, they’ve got Ryan Vogelsong. And instead of Chris Davis, or even Adam Lind, they’ve got John Jaso. He’s going to cost less than Jason Motte and Steve Cishek.

Usually, the thing about bargains is that there’s a question mark. It’s not that teams haven’t thought about them — it’s that teams prefer a little more certainty for the investment. The question mark for Jaso is his first-base defense. With, say, Lind, you know what you’re getting with the glove. It’s not great, but it’s known. Jaso, not so much. He’s volunteered to be the third catcher, but he probably won’t do that. He’ll get a few innings in the corner outfield, but not very many. Jaso’s going to play first, and he’s barely ever done that.

The Pirates refer to it as a calculated risk. It was a calculated risk when the Red Sox put Hanley Ramirez in the outfield. It was a calculated risk when the Pirates tried Pedro Alvarez at first base a year ago. There can be downside to these moves, which makes this a slight gamble. But I don’t think anyone should be worried about catastrophes. Jaso’s background is catching, and catchers who’ve done this before have by and large come away fine.

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By the numbers, Buster Posey didn’t struggle to adjust to first base. Neither did Victor Martinez. Neither did Joe Mauer. Neither did Mike Napoli, or Jason Phillips, or Stephen Vogt. Neither did Carlos Santana. The Pirates aren’t trying something new — catchers have long moved in the direction of first, and Jaso will have all offseason and spring to grow accustomed to his new responsibilities. Yeah, there will be growing pains. Yeah, Jaso will make the occasional fundamental mistake. But I feel like the actual risk is small. Pedro Alvarez, for whatever reason, just forgot how to catch baseballs. Catching baseballs is half of what Jaso used to do.

The uncertainty is the defense. The more certain part is the offense. Again, like Lind, Jaso needs to be strictly platooned, because he can’t do much against lefties. But last year, against righties, he had a 132 wRC+. His three-year righty wRC+ is 130, even with Prince Fielder and Josh Donaldson. His five-year righty wRC+ is 130, even with Michael Brantley and Matt Kemp. Jaso has historically been an above-average hitter when he has the platoon advantage, and with the Pirates’ situation, he should just about only bat with the platoon advantage. Despite the various injuries, Jaso’s kept being productive.

And while he still knows how to walk, Jaso has pretty quietly become a more aggressive batter. Here are his year-to-year swing rates against righties, from Brooks Baseball:

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Jaso’s gone from a little above 35% to a little above 45%. Used to be, he swung at the first pitch 18% of the time; the last two years, he’s swung at the first pitch 32% of the time. He still controls the zone, but he’s become more willing to go after pitches to put in play, and you can see some of the differences in his swing-rate heat maps:

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Jaso these days swings more often low, and he swings more often at pitches away. So he’s less vulnerable to getting caught looking on pitches away, and though Jaso hasn’t become a markedly better hitter, he hasn’t gotten worse, which is just as important. He’s the sort of productive you don’t notice all that much in the moment, since he doesn’t clobber that many dingers, but Jaso’s good for a quality at-bat, and there’s Morse or Rogers to take over when Jaso might be at a disadvantage. Given how the Pirates work, this is just about a perfect fit.

Doesn’t mean it’s a high-upside fit. It’s not. Upside gets money. Low-upside players go cheap, at least as hitters go. Asdrubal Cabrera didn’t cost much. Nori Aoki didn’t cost much. Dioner Navarro didn’t cost much. If you’re okay with a low ceiling, free agency doesn’t have to be a nightmare. The Pirates have shown they’re okay with low ceilings. Because they’re okay with spreading the contributions around, almost as much as they possibly can.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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jdbolickMember since 2024
10 years ago

Nice job, Mr. Sarris!

Spa City
10 years ago

In a world where J.A. Happ is worth a 3 year, $36 million contract and Mike Leake is worth a 5 year, $80 million contract, I find it somewhat odd that John Jaso is worth only a 2 year, $8 million contract. No?

Jaso clearly can hit RHP (the large majority of overall pitching) very well. Unless he just can’t handle 1B defensively (which I understand is the risk) I cannot see his value being that much less than a back-end starter.

pmacho
10 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

You’re comparing two durable league average pitchers (maybe not Happ) to a position player that has missed significant time with concussion issues and has platoon issues. I’m not really seeing how you can assume they have equivalent value and should be payed equivalent salaries.

Spa City
10 years ago
Reply to  pmacho

And yet I do make that assumption.

isavage
10 years ago
Reply to  pmacho

I actually think there is much more limited supply of guys like Jaso, with a consistent wRC+ in the 120-130 range, then their are number 4 starter types like Happ and Leake, even if they are in a platoon situation. Obviously every team needs starters and not everyone can use a platoon DH/1b, so the demand is also much less, but the huge price differences indicate a market that’s overvaluing or undervaluing someone. Despite platooning and playing partial seasons, Jaso’s been worth about the same WAR as Happ over the past 4 years, and most of Happ’s was from last year in what was a very aberrational year for him. If you’re looking at bWAR for Leake he’s been worth significantly more than Jaso, but not that much more. Mostly I think these pitcher contracts are going to look laughable in a couple years. You’ve got Niese on a contract where he’ll get 9 million, with team options for 10, 11 million, that makes sense! Jason Vargas 4/32 a couple years ago, makes sense! How do we go from 4/32 to 5/80 for similar pitchers in 2 years?

pedeysRSox
10 years ago

Also Scott Hatteberg was a good catcher turned first baseman.

Anonymous
10 years ago
Reply to  pedeysRSox

Yeah, but first base isn’t that hard. Tell him, Ron.

WerthlessMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It’s incredibly hard.

wily moMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

pickin’ machine

maybeofftopic365
10 years ago

If it wasn’t for my general caution ever counting out the Cardinals, it looks like the Pirates have a better chance of finishing second to the Cubs than the Cardinals do. It’s easy to forget that the Pirates have a pretty young core locked up on team-friendly contracts and all they really have to do is make mid-tier acquisitions to keep all their roster spots above replacement level, something Huntington seems to excel at. That, plus the usual Ray Searage magic….I wouldn’t count them out.

Dan FlahertyMember
10 years ago

anyone can judge a free agent’s ceiling. I feel like the Pirates are one of the best at figuring out where a player’s floor is, even if the ceiling isn’t necessarily the best.

szielinskiMember since 2026
10 years ago

“Upside gets money. Low-upside players go cheap, at least as hitters go.”

The Pirates get their high upside players from their minor league system (too many to list), undervalued (Martin) or fixable players (Liriano).

By October 2016, the Pirates could have this lineup and rotation:

C: Cervelli
3B: Kang
2B: Harrison/Hanson
1B: Bell
SS: Msrcer
LF: Marte
CF: McCutchen
RF: Polanco

Cole
Liriano
Taillon
Glasnow
Nurse

This is a frontline with upside, the bulk of which is homegrown.

kozy21
10 years ago
Reply to  szielinski

I’d prefer Kang at SS and J-Hay at 3rd with Mercer as a Util.

jf_wm
10 years ago
Reply to  kozy21

I agree on the condition that Kang is healthy enough to cover SS.

We’re expecting a lot out of him but his knee injury is no joke. All reports are excellent but I don’t think we should expect Kang to be at his 2015 level all year next year as he comes back from injury.

bjs2025
10 years ago

I’d love to see Taillon up and doing well but I’m just not sure with how his last couple years have gone.

Tooele Dave
10 years ago

First off, thanks for another year of great FREE coverage.

A couple of comments from a life-long Pirates fan. It’s not possible to know how much money the PBC has to spend. But they are holding very team friendly contracts with Cutch, Polanco, Kang, Cole and Marte. At some point the Pirates are going to have to start writing checks to players that make them uncomfortable. Maybe even with 3 commas. Otherwise I’m afraid we’re going to be (at best) a perpetual wildcard team. Yeah, yeah, I know. We just came off a 20-year lowing streak. Be glad we’re competitive.

I think the FO deserves a huge amount of credit for turning us from doormats to one of the best teams in the NL. But there is still another step to take. And I don’t know that continuing to bottom fish and hope the magic continues is necessarily a sustainable approach. I think the world of what Ray Searage has done. But he couldn’t “fix” Charlie Morton or Jeff Locke. I am admitted Lockeaphobe. I’m not a fan of the Walker for Niese deal either. How about signing a front end pitcher who doesn’t need “fixed”.

I guess the plan is do the best we can in 2016 and hope that 2017 brings with it Josh Bell, Taillon, Glasnow, Hanson,…Hopefully good talent at bargain basement prices that will allow the Pirates to spend more money at other positions.

I want Cutch to get a ring before he leaves the Pirates. He embodies the same humanitarian spirit as Clemente did. I know they don’t hand out World Series rings to the best human beings. But Cutch deserves to have a better team around him. He is a generational player in Pittsburgh. Let’s not waste that.

Tooele Dave
10 years ago
Reply to  Tooele Dave

Ooops. Maybe 2 commas, but 9 digits. I’m not unreasonable.

BillClinton
10 years ago
Reply to  Tooele Dave

Here: let me start this reply with acknowledging there are a handful of ways to become a winning baseball team. You can never just get one facet right: power pitching in the rotation, HRs from lots of spots in the order, OBP, an elite bullpen chain, good defense, even pitch framing and shifts. There are also 3 or so ways to acquire each of those facets: draft & develop, FA, reclamations, international FA and having an innovative FO stand out. Let’s rank, very subjectively (forgive me Fangraphs), the highest cost of acquisition method:

1) MLB FA—far and away the most expensive option
2) This gets harder but probably, for the most part, Int’l FA
3) Maybe reclamations (hit or miss)
4) Draft & Develop
5) Innovative Front Office

A team like the Pirates—with a small TV and attendance market relative to the rest of MLB and what’s supposedly a poor TV deal—are *not* going to be major players behind door #1. They’ll fill gaps there and take “calculated risks”. They’re just not in on top tier FAs and, unless it’s the perfect signing for their roster makeup, I doubt that changes. Even behind door #2 they’re limited players and they seem to look for undervalued markets (a la Kang and KBO). They can’t make even mid-sized contract mistakes. Door #3 they’re all over, especially for pitchers. Jaso and Cervelli may be instances of them trying to figure out oft injured position players with upside. Door #4 is their real shot at perpetual contention. This is the bread and butter. Door #5 is sort of enmeshed in all of 2-4 and also allows for shifting and their Golden State rest experiment, etc.

Everyone who loves the Pirates wants what you want: to win it all while Cutch is around. Still, maybe it’d serve you and all Pirates fans well to come around to the idea that they’re not trying to open a window of competitiveness here. They’re trying to be perpetually competitive. They’re numbers people in the FO and I believe they believe that, if you maximize your entries to the playoffs, you maximize your odds of winning it all. I also think they believe the best way to get all the way is with a roster of largely pre-arb and arb players. Helpful at all?

Tooele Dave
10 years ago
Reply to  BillClinton

Yes. Very cogent argument. I’m old enough to have seen both the ’71 and ’79 WS victories. But baseball is a lot more complicated now than it was then.

Thanks

BillClinton
10 years ago
Reply to  Tooele Dave

More money, more problems.

Glad it was helpful. I’d trade my understanding of today’s baseball economy for memories of ’71 and ’79 any day, fwiw (I didn’t exist until 1982 so I was *just* old enough to experience the 21 year drought).

frankMember since 2025
10 years ago

Willin Rosario struggled to adjust to first base. I agree its likely that Jaso will be about average by mid-season if he avoids injury, but it’s not a given.