Pitching to Mike Trout: 2015, Vol. 1

During the FanGraphs trip to Arizona in February, Carson remarked that I was squeezing an awful lot of juice out of the pitch-comp fruit. It’s true, I was — it was an idea I found interesting, and, more importantly, I didn’t have much else to write about. But now we’ve got a baseball season, a whole brand-new one, which means I get to resume writing about the thing I find perhaps the very most interesting: pitching to Mike Trout. I’ve probably written about this 10 times. I’ll probably write about it another 100 times. Many of you are probably sick of it. I might never grow sick of it.

Scouting reports make the rounds. At first, information is private, exchanged only within the industry. At some point, something gets leaked, or identified by an analyst. Then a report will make the rounds within analytical circles. Analysts write, so reports will be exposed to analytically-minded fans. But things can keep going, if sufficiently remarkable. Sometimes you’ll have a scouting report that makes its way into general baseball knowledge, even among people who don’t think in such granular terms. The Mike Trout scouting report is out there. I don’t even need to tell you anything about it because you’ve been hearing about it for months. Everybody knows. A few days ago I was listening to Mariners radio announcer Rick Rizzs, and he was talking about the importance of pitching Trout hard and in and up. It might be the only thing he has in his brain from within the past 12 years.

So it’s 2015 now. How is Mike Trout being pitched, given, you know, everything?

This early, these numbers can be deceptive. The samples, of course, are small, and just as important, there can be opponent bias. Perhaps a player has faced pitchers who are disproportionately likely to do something. Opponents don’t average out after seven or eight or nine games. So, this is something to keep in mind. But with Trout, the early numbers are so extreme that even regressing them somewhat still suggests a strong signal. Pitchers haven’t just pitched Trout like they did last year. They’ve decided to turn it to 11.

Here’s a quick glimpse — Trout pitch locations from 2014, and Trout pitch locations from 2015. What’s happened is immediately obvious.

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A perhaps representative plate appearance, from Tuesday, with Trout facing off against Nick Martinez:

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  1. fastball, up-and-in quadrant
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  6. slider, up-and-away quadrant
  7. fastball, up-and-in quadrant

One plate appearance doesn’t tell you everything, especially when that plate appearance is followed by Martinez pitching in a similar way to Albert Pujols. But we can make some use of Baseball Savant. Let’s examine the very early tendencies, comparing Trout to the rest of the league’s right-handed hitters in 2015.

Inside Pitches

  • Trout rate: 65%
  • Trout rank: 1
  • League rate: 43%
  • Trout rate, 2014: 47%

Trout this year has played in eight games. His lowest inside-pitch rate for a game is an even 50%. That’s still percentage points above the league average for righties. And I just noticed Trout’s game is underway Wednesday, and he’s batted two times. Seven of eight pitches have been over the inside half.

High, Inside Pitches

  • Trout rate: 36%
  • Trout rank: 1
  • League rate: 19%
  • Trout rate, 2014: 25%

Inside Fastballs

  • Trout rate: 54%
  • Trout rank: 1
  • League rate: 29%
  • Trout rate, 2014: 35%

High, Inside Fastballs

  • Trout rate: 35%
  • Trout rank: 1
  • League rate: 15%
  • Trout rate, 2014: 21%

In each category, Trout ranks No. 1 in baseball, sometimes by a wide margin. In all cases, he’s blowing away the league average, and while his numbers are so extreme you have to round them down a little bit in your head, he’s also skyrocketed right by last year’s rates. Which is what you should expect in the early going — Trout’s the best player in baseball, so opponents are going to look for any way to get him out. And they’re going to keep at it until Trout forces them to change. The league and Mike Trout are still trying to establish some kind of pitch-frequency equilibrium, and with that in mind, how has Trout looked this month?

Here’s Trout, against Nick Martinez, late last year:

Trout-2014

Here’s Trout, against Martinez, Tuesday:

Trout-2015 (1)

Trout-2015 (2)

In the clip from last year, Trout hits the ball off the fists. Now look at the two other clips. They’re similar pitches. Technically, both resulted in outs to the left fielder, so in these clips, Trout went 0-for-2. But you can see better quality of contact. In the first one, Trout flew out to left to moderate depth. In the second one, Trout very nearly hit the ball out to left-center, with the defender catching the ball against the wall. With bucketing, it was a hitless at-bat, but by actual performance, Trout did almost as well as possible. Trout said during spring getting better against these pitches was a priority, and, well, it’s something to think about. He’s very young and very good.

But to this point, Trout has three extra-base hits. One came on a thigh-high fastball just barely over the outer half. One came on a similarly-located sinker. And one came on a low fastball more or less over the middle. Trout has hit high, inside pitches hard, but until he does it more, and until he’s truly rewarded for it, this is probably what life is going to be like. Pitchers will keep attacking up there. Trout will look for those pitches more, so he’ll be more prepared for them. In theory, that will leave Trout slightly more vulnerable against other pitches, and then you’re closer to an optimal balance. The question concerns where that balance will be.

Pitchers are still searching. They’re still pushing it. And in the very early going, they’ve pushed their patterns ever more extreme. This is my favorite story in baseball, and I have no idea what happens next. I look forward to seeing it, and I look forward to writing about it. I might never stop writing about it.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Baseball Guy
11 years ago

He’ll adjust of course, but some of this is just going to inevitably moderate his outrageous numbers, simply because he IS a low ball hitter. If you look at his approach and swing path, it’s just designed to hit low hard stuff (or soft, whatever). He CAN hit higher pitches, but he’s always going to struggle a bit more. Trout is a generational talent, but he also got lucky in riding the low-strike craze that hit baseball right about when he turned pro.

Paul
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

What about his bat path is designed to hit low pitches?

Baseball Guy
11 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Look at the path the bat goes to get from load position to contact. The angle the bat makes to pure horizontal is quite high (something like 45%). Put another way, his barrel is coming into the hitting zone at its maximum velocity, and lowest point. That’s simply not true of many other hitters, and that’s his natural swing. To hit a pitch that’s only a foot or so lower than his shoulders (as opposed to two feet or what have you) requires a different swing. Compare his swing to a natural high ball hitter.

4 Fish To NEVER Eat
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

What would he have to do to adjust that swing for pitches in the upper half of the zone? Is this something he can easily adjust when he recognizes the pitch, or does it require a more substantial adjustment to his overall approach?

Jerry Brewer
11 years ago
Reply to  Paul

his top hand function. he gets his top forearm turning (supination) very early. I discuss in this video.

https://youtu.be/cj2Dj9fXGU8

ReuschelCakes
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

“he also got lucky in riding the low-strike craze that hit baseball right about when he turned pro”

I mean, what a lucky guy – to be the best hitter in the world. Too bad that luck has ended now that after 3 seasons and almost 30 WAR those generous opponents are no longer just gonna willingly throw the ball in his “swing path” and let him rake for the sake of it…

Oh – this is sarcasm and that was a stupid comment.

Baseball Guy
11 years ago
Reply to  ReuschelCakes

No, it’s because pitchers who can command the bottom of the strike zone were systematically promoted for several years, meaning he could feast on pitches he most naturally hit. Good for him. Now it’s changing a bit, and he’ll hit slightly less otherworldly going forward.

olethros
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

Or he learned to hit those pitches because that’s what everyone was throwing him, and now that they’re throwing him high heat he’ll learn to hit those pitches too.

Vicmackey
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

Pretty sure pitchers have been taught to keep the ball down for long before trout was in the big leagues. Not sure there was a time when there was a premium was put on pitchers who can command the belt high fastball.

diegosanchez
11 years ago

I’m watching his 3rd plate appearance right now.
1st pitch: fastball high inside, ball
2nd pitch: fastball low inside, ball
3rd pitch, fastball high inside, (debatable) strike
4th pitch, curveball low outside, ball
5th pitch, fastball high inside, swing (jammed), bloop single to right field

Pale Hose
11 years ago

I think you mean pitching to the weatherman.

kdm628496
11 years ago
Reply to  Pale Hose

millville meteorologist

Mookie Betts
11 years ago

What’s his problem with the inside pitch? Piece of cake!

Dustin Pedroia
11 years ago
Reply to  Mookie Betts

Yeah man, I don’t get it.

wildcard09
11 years ago

Here’s to hoping you never stop writing about this! Also, those pitch comp articles were a treat every time.

Angelsjunky
11 years ago

Trout is 2-2 today with two singles a walk, and a stolen base. He only has three extra base hits, but he’s finding ways to contribute. Anyhow, the jacks will come. His ability to adjust is unbelievable.

ReuschelCakes
11 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

Yes, he certainly is “finding ways to contribute.” Astute statement.

Andy
11 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

If he turns into what he was projected to be coming up–a .300+ hitter with 30-40 SB and only 20-25 HR–I won’t complain.

Angelsjunky
11 years ago
Reply to  Andy

No way he only hits 20-25 HR – not with his strength and power. Actually, it would be interesting to see how many player maxed out in power in their early 20s…my guess is that it is a short list (Eddie Mathews?).

Anyhow, I expect a middle-ground between 2013 and 2014 – averaging maybe .300/.400/.550 with 30 HR and 25 SB a year over the next decade or so.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

I can’t imagine that he would average close to 25 SB a year over the next decade. It takes a toll on the body, and he’s not going to start getting faster, so I wouldn’t expect him to average more than about 15 or so SB a year.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

I can’t imagine that he would average close to 25 SB per year over the next decade. It takes a toll on the body, and he’s not going to start getting faster, so I wouldn’t expect him to average more than about 15 or so SB a year.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

Sorry for the duplicate comment there – for some reason it never showed up when I originally posted it. I’ve been getting a lot of glitches with the site this morning.

everdiso
11 years ago

If only this guy was a Red Sox prospect, maybe he’d get some hype. But then he would probably most definitely be overrated, so there’s that.

Hoopdata
11 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

They’d probably be saying things like, He should have won 3 MVP Awards Already, and he’s been the best player in baseball since he was a full time player. Yeah, that’s just ridiculous.

Johannes
11 years ago

Time to pull a Biggio and turn in to some of those inside pitches. When pitchers begin to err over the middle of the plate instead of inside, he’ll start crushing again.

Jason BMember since 2017
11 years ago
Reply to  Johannes

He needs some +2 plate mail to hang out over the plate like that.

Jason BMember since 2017
11 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Which the armory in Anaheim doesn’t sell 🙁

Gregory
11 years ago

Is he standing any further away from the plate?

Dave
11 years ago

Looks like a winning strategy with Trout hitting 438/500/594 so far.

Adrian Gonzalez
11 years ago
Reply to  Dave

*Snicker* Yeah, his .438/.500/.594 line is so impressive. *Snicker*

*Not Paid by Adrian Gonzalez
11 years ago

Hey Adrian, I thought you were hitting pretty good so far. What’s your slash line again?

Adrian Gonzalez
11 years ago

It’s not like I regularly keep track of my numbers or anything, but I’m currently hitting .548/.622/1.194 with a 16.2 BB%, 8.1 K%, and a 96.2 Z-Contact%.

rustydudeMember since 2021
11 years ago

One adjustment that Trout seemingly has made but will also have to maintain is higher BB% and lower k%. Pitchers that usually throw low in the zone will have problems commanding a pitch high/inside. Practice makes perfect when it comes to command and going away from their bread & butter will cause pitchers to throw more out of the zone. Trout will have to lay off the pitches that are too far inside or too high. Umpires, as well, seem to favor calling lower pitches strikes, than the ones that are high in the strike zone. Trout has to make the pitchers pay for their own adjustments.

So far, so good: 13% bb rate, 16% k rate.

He might even look to improve on these #’s.

Miguel Cabrera
11 years ago

OMG write about something else. Every week, same article.

Mookie Betts
11 years ago
Reply to  Miguel Cabrera

I nominate myself.

Mike Trout
11 years ago
Reply to  Miguel Cabrera

You’re still playing baseball, Mr. Cabrera?

Doug Lampert
11 years ago

He has a 36.2 Zone%, 8th lowest out of 207 qualified batters.

I think he can afford to pick a pitch and sit on it early in an at bat just as if he were in a 3-0 count. What are they going to do if he doesn’t swing? Walk him?

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
11 years ago

To paraphrase The Rock:

How are they pitching Mike Trout? IT… DOESN’T… MATTER!

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Mario Mendoza

I’ve seen that movie a few times – heck, I even saw it in the theaters – and I don’t remember that line!

Phillies113
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

The wrestler, not the movie.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

I watched The Wrestler as well, although I didn’t see it in the theater. Great movie, and Marisa Tomei looked great in it. I don’t remember the ‘It Doesn’t Matter’ line in that movie either though!

dominik
11 years ago

His swing plane seems to be slightly flatter against the high pitch this year which is a good thing. His steep plane is good against low pitches but against high pitches a flatter one is better. You always want to match the plane of the pitch with the bat path.

Charles
11 years ago

He’s also hitting .438 at this present time, sure looks like he could do with some help adjusting to that pitching !

Feeding the Abscess
11 years ago
Reply to  Charles

He struck out in his 30% of his 2nd half at-bats last season. He was still effective, but he was merely an all-star player with that hole in his swing (and perhaps more importantly, said hole actually being exploited), versus a generational talent with it shored up.