Platooning Ain’t Easy
“Just platoon it.” Whenever a team has a weak spot in their lineup, that’s the first thing I think of. Limp left field production? Just sprinkle some platoon on it, and you could be living large. Second base got you down? You’re just one platoon away from competence, or even excellence if you play your cards right. Second base and left field are bad? Bam, platoon them both!
It isn’t actually that easy. If you want to deploy a platoon in the majors (as opposed to in theory, my favorite place to deploy platoons), you have to wrangle with reality, which is notoriously unforgiving. In that vein, this is an article I’m writing to remind myself how hard it is to run multiple platoons at once. It’s not necessarily a reason not to platoon. It’s not even a critique of platooning. It’s just that in my head, and potentially in yours, teams are passing up platoon spots left and right. Here are some reasons why that isn’t true.
Too Many Pitchers
This one is kind of easy, but one way to end up short on platoon-able bats is to run a 14-man pitching staff. That leaves you 12 roster spots to, you know, play baseball with. There are eight positions on the field — and let’s be real, probably nine in both leagues after this year — which leaves three bench spots. Subtract one for a backup catcher, and that leaves you two “bench” spots to cover backups across all your positions and platoons.
The other examples in this article will come with specific teams who have been in this exact situation, but there’s almost no point in this scenario. The math is too obvious. You can support one platoon on 12 players if one of the platoon partners doubles as a multi-position backup, but you can’t platoon first base, or two DH-only bats, or any generic combinations of big hulking sluggers.
This particular reason not to platoon is also likely on its way out. The 26-man roster was supposed to carry a 13-pitcher maximum with it. That pitcher cap was suspended in 2020, though, a prudent decision given the strangeness of the COVID season. It remained suspended in 2021 as pitchers built up towards a full workload again. It’s likely to return in 2022, at which point this platoon limitation will stop existing.
Awkward Backups
Imagine a platoon-y outfielder — let’s say Hunter Renfroe. Imagine a lefty who can also play the outfield — dealer’s choice of Franchy Cordero, Alex Verdugo, and Jarren Duran. That’s a tailor-made platoon right there. But now let’s take a look at Boston’s starting lineups from July 21 through July 31:
| Day | Starter | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | DH |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/21 | L | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Michael Chavis | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Danny Santana | Enrique Hernández | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/22 | L | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Michael Chavis | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Enrique Hernández | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/23 | R | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Enrique Hernández | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/24 | R | Kevin Plawecki | Michael Chavis | Enrique Hernández | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Franchy Cordero | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/25 | R | Christian Vázquez | Franchy Cordero | Enrique Hernández | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/26 | R | Christian Vázquez | Franchy Cordero | Michael Chavis | Rafael Devers | Enrique Hernández | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/28 (1) | L | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Michael Chavis | Rafael Devers | Enrique Hernández | J.D. Martinez | Alex Verdugo | Hunter Renfroe | Kevin Plawecki |
| 7/28 (2) | L | Kevin Plawecki | Bobby Dalbec | Enrique Hernández | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/29 | L | Christian Vázquez | Franchy Cordero | Enrique Hernández | Bobby Dalbec | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/30 | L | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Enrique Hernández | Jonathan Araúz | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Jarren Duran | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
| 7/31 | L | Christian Vázquez | Bobby Dalbec | Jonathan Araúz | Rafael Devers | Xander Bogaerts | Alex Verdugo | Enrique Hernández | Hunter Renfroe | J.D. Martinez |
A quick note on the color coding I’ll be using the rest of the article: blue means the hitter started the game with the platoon advantage; red means the pitcher had it.
With that note covered: there aren’t really any outfield platoons here. Renfroe started three of four games against righties. Verdugo drew a start in six of the seven games against lefties. Duran got plenty of run against lefties, too. Cordero is the closest thing to a platoon partner for Renfroe, but the Sox mostly started both of them against righties. The Sox played against plenty of lefties, and having Bogaerts, Hernández, and Martinez in nearly every starting lineup made for a lot of good matchups, but some of the sketchier parts of the roster didn’t get the extra help they needed.
Why? The backups didn’t really work out. Kiké Hernández is theoretically well-suited to platoon with Duran or Verdugo, but he spent a lot of this stretch playing the infield. Cordero and Renfroe couldn’t platoon because Cordero started at first base over Bobby Dalbec and Michael Chavis, both righties. Chavis was a multi-position backup until he was traded on July 30, but to the extent that he was platooning, it was a sideways rotation with Duran in center, and the team eventually benched Chavis against lefties in favor of Duran anyway.
In other words, the rotations here just didn’t quite work out to allow any clear platoons. Some kind of Duran/Renfroe, Duran/Hernandez, Verdugo/Renfroe, or Verdugo/Hernandez combination might have worked to juice up an outfield spot; Renfroe is best used against lefties, and the Sox faced a ton of them in this sample. But the rotating cast of first and second basemen, combined with the intermittent need to spell everyday infielders, meant that the players you’d want for your outfield platoons were mostly busy elsewhere.
The Red Sox still managed one platoon, more or less: first base, where they had the handedness advantage in eight of their 11 games. But where would they create a second platoon? A lefty second baseman would be nice, but both of their options there were right-handed multi-position types. A lefty outfielder? They were awash in those, and they still couldn’t manage to platoon Renfroe. The Boston lineup had some enviable flexibility due to Hernández, but it didn’t translate into obvious platoons, even with someone like Renfroe on the squad, because of where the backups played.
Who Would They Use?
The Red Sox didn’t manage to platoon as much as you would expect, but maybe they were hamstrung (in this particular endeavor) by a locked-in DH spot. If you’re using your DH spot to rotate players, that means more opportunities for platoons. Let’s use that July 28 double-header as a jumping-off point for another platoon-deficient team:
| Date | Starter | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | DH |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/28 (1) | R | Alejandro Kirk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Cavan Biggio | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | George Springer | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández |
| 7/28 (2) | R | Reese McGuire | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer | Randal Grichuk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. |
| 7/29 | L | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Cavan Biggio | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer |
| 7/30 | L | Alejandro Kirk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer | Randal Grichuk | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. |
| 7/31 | L | Alejandro Kirk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | George Springer | Teoscar Hernández | Randal Grichuk |
| 8/1 | R | Reese McGuire | Cavan Biggio | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer |
| 8/2 | R | Alejandro Kirk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Cavan Biggio | Santiago Espinal | Marcus Semien | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer | Randal Grichuk | Bo Bichette |
| 8/3 | R | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Breyvic Valera | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | George Springer | Teoscar Hernández | Corey Dickerson |
| 8/4 | R | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Breyvic Valera | Bo Bichette | Corey Dickerson | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer |
| 8/5 | R | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | George Springer | Randal Grichuk | Corey Dickerson |
| 8/6 | R | Alejandro Kirk | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Breyvic Valera | Bo Bichette | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer |
| 8/7 (1) | R | Alejandro Kirk | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | Marcus Semien | Santiago Espinal | Bo Bichette | Corey Dickerson | George Springer | Teoscar Hernández | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. |
| 8/7 (2) | R | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Marcus Semien | Breyvic Valera | Bo Bichette | Corey Dickerson | Randal Grichuk | Teoscar Hernández | George Springer |
| 8/8 | R | Reese McGuire | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | Breyvic Valera | Santiago Espinal | Marcus Semien | Lourdes Gurriel Jr. | George Springer | Teoscar Hernández | Corey Dickerson |
The Blue Jays seem like an ideal candidate to run a ton of platoons. Randal Grichuk? Platoon central. Cavan Biggio? He can play anywhere, and also mostly shouldn’t face lefties. Corey Dickerson is positionally limited, but he crushes righties. Not only that, but in Alejandro Kirk, the team also has a catcher who can shift to DH against either handedness of pitcher with no problem. Toronto is heavily right-handed in its base configuration; in two of the games against lefty starters, every hitter in the lineup batted righty. But a few good lefty bats replacing the less fearsome hitters (no one was bumping Springer, Guerrero, Semien, or Bichette out of the lineup) would go a long way toward extending the lineup against right-handed starters.
But the Jays didn’t shift Kirk to DH to add another platoon-proof bat. They also mostly didn’t sit Grichuk against righties, because they were busy giving everyone rest. Biggio hit the IL on August 3, and after that, they didn’t really have a lefty infield bat to make the rotations sing; Valera is a switch-hitter, and no one’s idea of a platoon bat. There simply weren’t any lefties to use.
Even with Biggio in the lineup, Espinal drew three starts against four righties. That’s because Biggio and Espinal double as backups at multiple other positions, so their platoon often becomes “just start both.” Guerrero needs a day off at first? That’s Biggio’s cue. When Bichette rested, that often moved Semien to short and Biggio to second. It’s useful to have a versatile defender who can hit, but unless there’s another lefty bat to handle the “platoon” part of his job, someone needs to play third base, and that someone in this case was Espinal.
When Dickerson came off the IL, there was a perfect opportunity to add a platoon piece in the outfield. But with the outfielders rotating through DH, there wasn’t quite as much space as you’d think. Dickerson joined the team the same day Biggio hit the IL — he’d been on the shelf himself — and crowded Grichuk out a bit. But Grichuk still started four of the next seven contests against righties. If you looked at the Jays’ lineup, you’d definitely pencil in a Grichuk/Dickerson platoon, but given that the team had no real outfield depth behind them, whichever side of the platoon was “off” that day frequently spelled another outfielder anyway.
The Jays weren’t roster-constrained at all during this time. If they had another impact bat, they could have plugged them into the lineup immediately; when they activated Danny Jansen from the IL on August 31, they started using Kirk at DH on occasion to hide Grichuk against righties. The problem is simply that despite a flexible roster, the team didn’t have a worthy bat to gobble up plate appearances against righties. Apparently, you can’t just say “platoon” and expect everything to be okay. Who knew?
How Platoons Actually Work
Let’s stay in the AL East for an example of how things look when you’re maximizing your roster and acquiring the right platoon bats to use those roster spots. After the trade deadline, the Rays had a new-look team with Nelson Cruz and Wander Franco as fixtures in the everyday lineup. That’s not to say they weren’t a little bit lefty-heavy, but they played musical chairs quite well:
| Day | Starter | C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | DH |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8/10 | L | Mike Zunino | Jordan Luplow | Brandon Lowe | Yandy Díaz | Wander Franco | Austin Meadows | Manuel Margot | Randy Arozarena | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/11 | R | Francisco Mejía | Ji-Man Choi | Brandon Lowe | Joey Wendle | Wander Franco | Austin Meadows | Brett Phillips | Randy Arozarena | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/12 | R | Mike Zunino | Yandy Díaz | Brandon Lowe | Joey Wendle | Wander Franco | Austin Meadows | Kevin Kiermaier | Brett Phillips | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/13 | R | Mike Zunino | Yandy Díaz | Brandon Lowe | Joey Wendle | Wander Franco | Randy Arozarena | Kevin Kiermaier | Manuel Margot | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/14 | R | Francisco Mejía | Ji-Man Choi | Brandon Lowe | Joey Wendle | Wander Franco | Austin Meadows | Kevin Kiermaier | Randy Arozarena | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/15 | L | Mike Zunino | Jordan Luplow | Mike Brosseau | Joey Wendle | Wander Franco | Austin Meadows | Manuel Margot | Randy Arozarena | Nelson Cruz |
| 8/16 | R | Francisco Mejía | Ji-Man Choi | Brandon Lowe | Mike Brosseau | Joey Wendle | Manuel Margot | Kevin Kiermaier | Brett Phillips | Austin Meadows |
| 8/17 | L | Mike Zunino | Jordan Luplow | Brandon Lowe | Yandy Díaz | Wander Franco | Randy Arozarena | Kevin Kiermaier | Manuel Margot | Nelson Cruz |
Compared to the other teams we’ve looked at, that’s a veritable sea of blue. The machinations involved in getting everyone their rest and mostly finding good matchups is impressive. Wendle started all five games against righties and only one of three against lefties. Phillips and Choi only played against righties, and Luplow only played against lefties. Lowe’s rest day came against a lefty; Cruz’s came against a righty. Arozarena played almost every day, but when he got two days off, they were both against righties.
If you’ll notice, though, the Rays used 15 position players to manage that juggling act. Off stage, they were running through relievers like mad. Over these eight days, they called up seven different relievers, shuffling the bullpen often enough that they frequently had fresh arms despite fewer pitchers available on any given day. Even then, Brosseau got sent back down on August 17, Luplow hit the IL a few days later, and both were replaced with pitchers. Even the peripatetic Rays couldn’t maintain their max-platoon approach for long.
So, should teams platoon wherever they can? Absolutely. Managers and front offices aren’t dumb; they try to put their players in the best position to succeed. But there are myriad ways that “platoon where you can” turns into “just run out Hunter Renfroe against a righty” more quickly than you might expect. If you think your favorite team should run more platoons to hide weak bats, trust me: it’s trying. The rigors of building a major league roster just don’t let them sometimes.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
Not only is it harder to do it because teams carry so many pitchers, it is easier to neutralize it because the other team also carries a lot of pitchers. The three batter rule makes it a little more difficult, but it is still likely that the other team can neutralize your platoon or force you to make a switch (further shortening your bench) as early as the 5th or 6th inning these days. It just doesn’t have as much benefit as it did when starters went longer and bullpens were smaller.
If AL teams carried two great hitting catchers (rare I know), then they could each catch half the time and DH the other half. That to me seems brilliant. That leaves more room for other platoons.
GM: We want you to play catcher for the Oakland A’s.
Player: OK, well, I’ve only ever played 1st base.
…
GM: It’s not that hard, Scott. Tell him Wash.
Ron Washington: It’s incredibly hard.
fair
it’s somewhat common for teams to turn good hitting minor league catchers into guys that play other positions. seems like one of these could finish out the games your starting catcher got injured. Sure, they might be bad catchers, but it’s just to finish up the game a few times a year.
Please name one….or two
Bryce Harper, Wil Myers, Josh Donaldson
He said one… or two
1 – not that common 2- you really think teams would let ANY of the three you named catch a couple innings “just to finish out the game”? Laughable
Wil Myers
I solved it Carlos Santana has caught 330 major league games in his career. He was a starting catcher until a home plate collision slowly moved him off catching. He can be an emergency catcher if the Royals starting catcher gets injured during the game. I would just tell him to move out of the way during plays at the plate and your good. Maybe the pitcher can come into cover on those plays. Anyway, its solved. for the few times the starting catcher gets injured mid game, and the the other catcher is DHing, former mlb catcher Carlos Santana and current mlb 1B/DH can catch the rest of the game and not embarrass you. Maybe have him catch the pitcher’s warmups now in then to get back into some catching shape.
Kiner-Falifa of Texas was a catcher.
I dont know, Steven Vogt, or Willians Astudillo?
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The issue with this, that the Royals seem to be on the verge of confronting, is that if your starting catcher gets hurt you can’t sub the DH into that spot without giving up the DH. And carrying three catchers is pretty inefficient.
The Royals seem to be hinting that their way around this is will be to play Melendez at other positions sometimes once he’s called up, but they mostly can’t do that with Perez. Perez at 1B while Pratto/Santana is the DH I guess? That seems doable, but sort of in line with the point of the article, it’s another point of complexity to work out.
You need to unexpectedly substitute in your backup catcher maybe once or twice a year. Just give up the DH that one or two times.
It will hurt, but not as much as carrying a third catcher or using your emergency catcher.
Also, in this scenario you have an extra bench player (since there is no backup catcher on the bench) who can pitch hit late in the game if you lose the DH. I think the pros heavily outweigh the cons. The Royals should totally swap Perez/Melendez between DH/C
I totally agree with this. For some reason the Royals seem super concerned about it. They’re weird.
15 plus years ago the Red Sox catching tandem (Varitek and mystery player I don’t recall) were both superior hitters to the DH they were trotting out daily. When asked about using the “off day” catcher as DH in a post game interview, the manager stated they couldn’t risk losing the DH. My immediate response was WTF? You are talking about maybe an at bat or possibly two that you wouldn’t want to cover with a pinch hitter if the starting catcher had to leave the game in an extremely early inning. After the sixth, the pinch hitter would be a given. I just do not see the risk in any way outweighing the possible gain from that perspective.
Probably Mirabelli? He was often the backup to Varitek.
I thought of Mirabelli too but then he said “superior hitter”
Agreed. I always found this irrational fear of teams losing their backup catcher incredibly stupid. Emergency catchers play like what, once a decade?
Well, they would have to play more often if teams were more willing to pinch-hit their backup catcher besides when he’s the last guy off the bench and the pitcher’s spot is up (which may not happen anymore, anyway), or sub him in for any reason other than an injury to the other catcher. Emergency catcher use is so rare BECAUSE teams are so afraid of resorting to it.
maybe they need to trade for a former catcher like Kiner-Falifa on Texas.
If you have two great hitting catchers, the truly logical thing to do
would be to trade one to shore up deficiencies in other parts of the lineup.
wrc+ 110 is a top 20% hitter for a catcher but only a median DH.
For example, you could easily swap a wrc+ 110 catcher for a wrc+ 130 DH
and that is likely better for the team.
fair, but you’re giving up a spot to do this.
It’s not as easy as it seems, as pointed out in the article:
With 25 man rosters …
You have 8 position starters
Backup C
Middle IF
OF
Corner guy
13 p
Before 3 batter rule, late in game, as soon as you pinch hit one of your 3 bench guys (assuming both C in starting lineup), opposing manager brings in reliever that kills your platoon advantage. Also, managers do not want to be hamstrung late in game with no bench players available to pinch run, play D, injury, etc
Now, with an extra position player on roster (26 total), it becomes a LITTLE easier, but as others point out, good hitting catchers/multi-position defenders/full time DH that is good….are all hard to find. And, managers can still hold relievers to face certain guys (pitcher gets two outs, 3rd hitter doubles, new reliever comes in to kill platoon pinch hitter).
Lastly, the thing a manager does NOT want to have to do is face media/GM to answer why he a) lost DH and had to use a pitcher to hit b) had to put emergency catcher in game who allows passed ball/SB that costs game.
And what the Rays have pulled off with relievers isn’t that easy to do, lots of people have to be on board.
To be fair, if you lose the DH midway through the game, you’re just going to use pinch-hitters when the pitcher’s spot comes up. Even under current NL rules, the pitchers don’t actually hit as often as people often think, usually just once or twice a game for each team, and even some of those have the pitcher trying to lay down a sac bunt.
There were 3 DHs with a wRC+ of 130 or greater. I don’t think it would be as easy as you claim.
Just as there were 3 catchers with a wrc+ of 110 or greater in AL. (min 300 PA)
Or if you look at the Steamer projection, 3 DHs with wrc+ 130 or higher and only 4 full-time catchers in the MLB with wrc+ 110 or higher.
I think this really isn’t true. The Dodgers for years had 2 above average catchers (when Grandal was there) and it was great, because catchers get more days off than any other position. Your backup catcher plays more than the dedicated backup at any other position unless that guy is a multi-positional asset. Having that player be actually worthwhile is an enormous advantage when your starting catcher probably doesn’t get more than 450 or 500 PA in a season even if he never misses time with injury. Catchers are constantly hurt even if they don’t go on the IL, and having 2 good ones means you can adjust the playing time to favor whichever one is healthy and performing at a given time. The 17-18 Dodgers are a great example here: In ’17, Grandal, the putative starter, was dragged down by a lot of minor injuries and dings and was not performing to his normal level, and more playing time shifted to Austin Barnes having the best year of his career. The following season, the opposite happened because Grandal was healthier due to the timeshare between the players.
We think of injuries in terms of games missed but catchers, due to their specialized skillset, the nature of what they do, and the lack of MLB-quality catchers overall (and so the typical gap between starter and backup) are by far the most likely position to be playing through issues at less than 100%, and retaining the ability to give time to whichever player is actually healthy and better able to perform close to their theoretical true talent is an excellent advantage: It’s one reason, for instance, the Dodgers didn’t trade Keibert Ruiz until they were very desperate, because the ability to do the same thing with Smith+Ruiz would have been an excellent advantage for the next several years.
You can also get around this losing the DH a bit with a few relief pitchers who are credible hitters. There are not many, but Mark Lorenson comes to mind. Steve Brault, I think did this for a few years. both would be far from elite pitchers or hitters, but they have been good enough to pinch hit some in the majors. There must be others. For a few at bats a couple of games a year having mop up pitchers who hit enough to be pinch hitters could work fine. Heck just one works if he can pitch long enough to finish the game.
A friend and I were just emailing about how the Rays can manage their pitching staff the way they do and manage platoons. Ben, you helped us figure it out–active use of the taxi squad.
It seems like a violation of the rules, in the same way the injured list was used to stash pitchers a few years ago. I don’t think there’s any way to prove it, though.
There’s a limitation in the rules for this, though. Unless there’s a new case on the active roster that causes a player to go on the IL (or one of the other inactive lists), a player optioned to the minors can’t be called back up for 10 days. A heavy reliever taxi squad means that you sometimes can’t pick your best choices for reinforcements.
> Too Many Pitchers
I mean teams are effectively deciding to get the platoon advantage with pitching rather than hitting here. It’s not deciding _not_ to platoon. Whether that’s because they can more selectively deploy those pitchers, or genuinely be neutralized less, this is where most teams seem to use their bench/platoon “currency”.
The solution is simple. Just do like I did in MLB The Show 20 and trade for all switch hitters. More GMs should be watching me while I play video games, it’s the new market inefficiency.
They should keep an eye on Debro from Bases Loaded, he could crank ’em. Paste and Frieda were no slouches either.
This is excellent.
I don’t think these are particularly great reasons. For the Jays example, they were short on outfielders due to injury. They didn’t plan Grichuk as the starting OF – they planned him as the fourth OF – so you wouldn’t plan to platoon him with anybody. Likewise they expected Gurriel/Springer/Teo to play everyday, so you’re not planning to platoon them. They should have found someone to platoon with Grichuk (Dickerson), but the problem was they got rid of their 1B/DH partner in Tellez, and didn’t have another option, so Vlad had to play 1B and the DH spot was needed to rotate players. So they were down multiple regulars they never really replaced, forcing Grichuk to play. If the Jays had a decent alternative to Grichuk, they would have replaced him quickly. The problem was they didn’t have anybody who could, because of injuries. Dickerson would have been an ideal platoon partner had they been more healthy.
With Biggio, yeah he should be platooned vs LHP – but he was injured and didn’t play well enough to hit RHP, so he wouldn’t be starting like a true platoon guy. I wouldn’t have been opposed to a Biggio/Espinal platoon next year, but as of right now it’s Biggio at 2B and Espinal at 3B. Depending on the bench depth they could have a RH 2B or 3B player, and play Espinal and the backup vs lefties.
The Jays lineup is pretty strong and doesn’t have noticeable platoon issues so they’re not a great example when healthy. Biggio aside, there aren’t many obvious spots to platoon. Grichuk shouldn’t be starting.
I think it’s a very different story when you set out a platoon from Day 1, vs what you’re calling platooning of guys being forced into more play time. It’s very easy to find a guy who hits LHP, and platoon him with a RH bench bat. You talk about how pitchers limit spots, but you need a catcher, you need a corner IF, a middle infielder, and an outfielder. It’s not particularly difficult to plan ahead and see you have multiple LH hitting OF and get a RH backup. Same with corner IF, and middle infielders.
It is quite easy to build a good platoon with limited roster spots.
No matter the reason why their roster was in that situation, the reason given as to why the Jays couldn’t platoon with the players they had is still valid.
No. Let’s go over the reasons, I’ll show you why they weren’t valid.
“But the Jays didn’t shift Kirk to DH to add another platoon-proof bat. They also mostly didn’t sit Grichuk against righties, because they were busy giving everyone rest. Biggio hit the IL on August 3, and after that, they didn’t really have a lefty infield bat to make the rotations sing; Valera is a switch-hitter, and no one’s idea of a platoon bat. There simply weren’t any lefties to use.”
They didn’t sit Grichuk against RHP because there weren’t any other options. In April Springer was hurt, the OF was Gurriel, Teo, and Grichuk. Palacios (minor leaguer who sucks) and Davis (same as Palacios) were the 4th OFs. You can’t platoon that, Grichuk is simply better. Biggio the plan wasn’t to platoon as he had a 105 and I believe 150 wRC+ vs LHP in 2019/2020. With such a small sample, why would you platoon him? Arguing to platoon him is a hindsight thing – I’d forgotten Biggio was good vs LHP, and it makes sense with a young player to see what he could do in a full year. To be honest, I’d actually give Biggio another chance to play vs LHP when the season starts again, as I can’t tell if his struggles were health related.
“Even with Biggio in the lineup, Espinal drew three starts against four righties. That’s because Biggio and Espinal double as backups at multiple other positions, so their platoon often becomes “just start both.”
A Biggio/Espinal platoon makes sense now if you don’t trust Biggio, but also Biggio was never really healthy which was the bigger problem. And Biggio was used in the OF at times (14 of 79 games), so there’s another reason to have them both in the lineup.
“Guerrero needs a day off at first? That’s Biggio’s cue. When Bichette rested, that often moved Semien to short and Biggio to second. It’s useful to have a versatile defender who can hit, but unless there’s another lefty bat to handle the “platoon” part of his job, someone needs to play third base, and that someone in this case was Espinal.”
Biggio started 4 times at second, it wasn’t really done like this. Biggio played 3 games at first. If anything, it was Gurriel (7 games) who started at first when Vlad needed a day off.
“When Dickerson came off the IL, there was a perfect opportunity to add a platoon piece in the outfield. But with the outfielders rotating through DH, there wasn’t quite as much space as you’d think.”
This is because they traded Tellez, and there were only 4 competent players for 4 spots – Gurriel, Teo, Grichuk and Dickerson. The reason they were rotated through OF/DH is because they didn’t have a true DH, and Vlad was 1B. They had 4 players for 4 spots. This argument is only valid if they had a fifth player for four spots. It didn’t happen much until the end of the year when Springer was healthy, and generally that was at DH. When that happened, Springer/Teo/Gurriel got full at bats, while Dickerson/Grichuk were a more even split, but there was a clear gap between those 2 and the other 3.
“Dickerson joined the team the same day Biggio hit the IL — he’d been on the shelf himself — and crowded Grichuk out a bit. But Grichuk still started four of the next seven contests against righties. If you looked at the Jays’ lineup, you’d definitely pencil in a Grichuk/Dickerson platoon, but given that the team had no real outfield depth behind them, whichever side of the platoon was “off” that day frequently spelled another outfielder anyway.”
Well yeah, there weren’t more players than spots. A platoon requires 2 competent players for 1 spot, or in the Jays case 5 players for 4 spots (RF, CF, LF, DH). So no kidding it didn’t work for the Jays.
“The Jays weren’t roster-constrained at all during this time.”
Yeah, they were. They had too many pitchers and didn’t use the last guy very often. They had no bench despite multiple injuries. And the minor leaguers they had were often useless. This is actually a criticism of the FO. While they did well this season, their inability to have a competent bench stands out. So these criticisms against the Jays and platooning are more about the failures of the FO than anything else.
” If they had another impact bat, they could have plugged them into the lineup immediately; when they activated Danny Jansen from the IL on August 31, they started using Kirk at DH on occasion to hide Grichuk against righties.”
Doesn’t this prove the author’s argument is wrong? The Jays immediately platooned when they could have.
“The problem is simply that despite a flexible roster”
Individual players had flexibility, but with such a short bench you couldn’t really argue it was a flexible roster.
” the team didn’t have a worthy bat to gobble up plate appearances against righties. Apparently, you can’t just say “platoon” and expect everything to be okay. Who knew?”
The Jays manager is fairly incompetent, so that’s part of the problem, but yeah, they absolutely could have platooned if they’d dropped one of their excess relievers. It would have been a great trade off. They missed the playoffs by one game, so actually I’d argue the fact they didn’t platoon Grichuk is one of many reasons they failed to make the post season.
I realize you didn’t make these arguments, and the author did, but I’d argue he did a very poor job of explaining these reasons.
You’re both still saying essentially the same thing: The Blue Jays didn’t platoon very much due to not having the right personnel available to do so.
Even if they had switched out one of their pitchers for an extra bench player, they didn’t have a good enough lefty-hitting outfielder stashed away in AAA to platoon with Grichuk or whomever. Maybe they could’ve traded for one before the deadline, but that’s on the GM rather than the manager.
How in the hell can you write an article like this and not use the San Francisco Giants who platooned a bunch of mediocre players into the best record in the game. SMH
More than anything, I love how you continue to find fascinating stuff about which to sprinkle your analytic and writing fairy dust. I mean, we really need it when the billionaire owners keep the millionaire players from entertaining us. I also love that you continue to choose universal (ever look up that Catholic means universal) themes, rather than discussions of an analysis of why a specific manager chose to pinch hit in the fourth rather than the fifth inning. I had not even thought about how the ratio of pitcher to bench players impact platoon strategies. Perhaps those managers who are “blessed” with ‘platoonable’ options should decide on when to bring up spot starters from AAA. Keep up the awesome stuff, Ben. These types of articles make my day…
“The Blue Jays seem like an ideal candidate to run a ton of platoons.”
Really?
When I look at that lineup in the first game of the double-header, the only guy I would think needs to be platooned is Grichuk. 8 of the 9 batters in that lineup (against a RHP) either (a) have the platoon advantage against LHPs, or (b) are LHBs I’d be willing to face same handedness pitchers (Biggio). So, there we see 8 guys who could bat every day.
So, that roster need only run one platoon (Grichuk and a lefty partner), no?
The game needs balance. You want to know what would not only allow for more platooning, but just generally fix so many of the on-field problems that baseball has right now? A legitimate pitcher cap. 11 per roster. You also need to disincentivize the up and down pitcher shuffling that teams like Rays and Dodgers do. But the goal should be to force pitchers to stop throwing all out max effort. Baseball needs to reduce strikeouts, increase contact, and keeps home runs within a reasonable range. Use a pitch clock to force them to pitch faster and make sure that they’re having to do more than just throw 15 pitches twice a week. Then you’ve got more contact. You’ve incentivized more action and less of a three true outcomes approach. The roster room allows for teams to platoon, not just in one spot, but multiple.