Ponce Upon a December: Jays Sign Reigning KBO MVP

While 29 American teams sit around twiddling their thumbs, the Toronto Blue Jays continue to run up their bill on the free agent market. After spending $210 million (with deferrals) to bring Dylan Cease in on Thanksgiving Eve, Toronto has now landed one of the top international free agents: right-handed pitcher Cody Ponce, late of the Hanwha Eagles of the KBO.
Even those of you who vaguely remember Ponce from his first stint in the majors might have trouble distinguishing him from any other of the dozens of big, replacement-level relievers the Pirates have thrown out there over the past decade. On some level, Ponce’s stint in Asia is just a chapter in a Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants-type deal he’s stuck in with John Holdzkom, Nick Kingham, and Colin Holderman.
If that guy is getting $30 million guaranteed over three years (to say nothing of his own blog post here to commemorate the signing), there must be quite a story.
Ponce last pitched in the majors in 2021, when he posted a 7.04 ERA in 38 1/3 innings. After that, he signed with Shohei Ohtani’s old team, the Nippon Ham Fighters of NPB. After a strong first season in Japan (a 3.35 ERA in 83 1/3 innings), Ponce’s performance regressed in 2023, leading first to a move to the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles, where he spent one disappointing season. After that, he left Japan entirely, signing with the aforementioned Hanwha Eagles of the KBO.
In his one season in Korea, well, I don’t know how else to say this other than: He beat total ass. Ponce made 29 starts, in which he posted a strikeout rate of 36.2% and a walk rate of 5.9%. Only seven qualified starters in AL/NL history have posted a 30-point K-BB% mark in a 162-game season: Pedro Martínez and Justin Verlander (who each did it twice), along with Gerrit Cole, Chris Sale, Randy Johnson, Max Scherzer, and Corbin Burnes.
Here are some numbers that don’t need to be put into context: a 17-1 record with a 1.89 ERA, 0.97 WIP, .197 opponent batting average, and 252 strikeouts in 180 2/3 innings. (Ponce’s teammate, Hyun Jin Ryu, went 9-7 with a 3.23 ERA and 122 strikeouts in 139 1/3 innings. Estevan Florial was on this team too, since we’re just remembering some guys now.)
On his trip back to North America, Ponce will need to pack an extra bag for all his accolades: He set new KBO single-game and single-season strikeout records, and won both the league MVP and the Choi Dong-won Award, which is given to the top starting pitcher in the KBO.
The KBO’s YouTube channel has some excerpts from Ponce’s 18-strikeout game, along with some hilarious auto-dubbed English commentary.
That looks pretty nasty: In the eighth inning, around the 100-pitch mark, Ponce is hitting 96 with his fastball and touching 90 with a downward-hooking cutter and an absolutely disgusting-looking changeup. You can see why he cleaned up come awards season, and why the Jays are so interested.
But Ponce is far from the first American to light up the KBO, then parlay that success into a major league rotation spot. The last two Choi Dong-won Award winners were also Americans: Kyle Hart and Erick Fedde. Just earlier this week, I mentioned both Hart and Fedde in the context of Matt Manning, the latest American to try his hand (or his arm, rather) in Korea.
Fedde’s post-KBO record has been mixed, while Hart’s has just been underwhelming. Can Ponce fare better?
There’s only one way to find out, obviously, and going from the KBO back to North America requires more adjustment than meets the eye. Not only are the quality and style of play different, even the baseball itself is different in Korea. The American ball might rob Ponce of some of his breaking ball movement.
But this is not the same pitcher who once got traded straight-up for Jordan Lyles. Even in relief, Ponce was sitting at 93 mph with the Pirates; now he’s more 94-97. His conditioning has improved, and he’s learned a new changeup. In his Top 50 Free Agent writeup, Eric Longenhagen called it “split-looking,” which definitely captures the pitch’s hard, cut-the-elevator-cables downward action, though it turns out Ponce gets that movement from a kick change grip.
I do love a good changeup.
Despite his new toys, and his total dominance over KBO hitters, Ponce was only our no. 40 overall free agent and our no. 11 free agent starting pitcher. (Our no. 9 starter if you don’t count Brandon Woodruff and Shota Imanaga, who took qualifying offers after the Top 50 list was published.) Our crowdsourced estimates for Ponce’s contract were for about two years in the $8 million AAV range, while Ben Clemens came in over the top with a third year at the same AAV. That estimate accounts for all the uncertainty regarding the transition from the KBO.
The Blue Jays, like they did with Cease, came in over the top in order to get their man before the silly season really got going at the Winter Meetings. But even if Ponce only turns out to be a fifth starter or a medium-leverage reliever, $10 million a year over three years is basically fine. If he’s anything more than that, this contract is a massive steal.
Consider Fedde, who just ran out a two-year, $15 million contract that he signed on his way back from Korea. Fedde produced 3.4 WAR across two teams in his first year, and while the White Sox did trade him at the 2024 deadline, they moved him in a three-team deal with so many moving parts I’d rather just look at whether he lived up to his salary.
Fedde was good for one season, and so bad in 2025 he got traded for nothing, then was cut by the fourth-place team that had just traded for him. But he earned all $15 million with that 3.4 WAR season in 2024.
The bar for Ponce is higher, befitting his higher salary, but considering what even mediocre starting pitching sells for these days, it’s not that much higher. And Ponce’s stuff, and his KBO results, are on a different level from Fedde’s. It’s fair to expect more.
From the Blue Jays’ perspective, they’ve already replaced their two outgoing free agent starting pitchers: Scherzer and Chris Bassitt. Cease will sit at the front of the rotation, with Kevin Gausman and (if his postseason form is a preview of what’s to come) Trey Yesavage. Ponce gives the Blue Jays an alternative to José Berríos at the back of the rotation. Shane Bieber gives Toronto six starting pitchers, plus fellow KBO veteran Eric Lauer as additional depth.
Theoretically, that’s more starting pitching than the Blue Jays need, but if all seven of those guys are healthy and firing on all cylinders come Opening Day, I’m sure manager John Schneider will be both surprised and willing to pay the price of having a couple awkward conversations about who’s going to the bullpen.
We’ll see how the Blue Jays operate going forward, but this — jumping on elite free agent targets early, and taking significant but calculated risks on mid-tier and international guys — is what the big teams do. It’s how you act when you’re worried more about building the best team possible than getting the best value. It’s encouraging not only that the Blue Jays are behaving this way, but that the players they’re targeting are buying in as well.
Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.
Blue Jays are (correctly, IMO) striking while the iron is hot. They’re being aggressive after a strong season. It’s similar to what we’ve seen recently with teams like Arizona and San Diego — attempting to move up a market tier based on good on-field results.
Given that Toronto was already in that “upper-middle class” tier, they’re maneuvering into the tier below the “big 3” — the two NY teams and the Dodgers.
Phillies are pretty close to the Yankees in the headline payroll numbers. Blue Jays should be able to keep Bichette and at least keep up with the Phillies
I’m skeptical of their belief in themselves unless they re-sign Bo (you probably just got the best years you’re gonna get going forward from Springer, Clement, Kirk and Gausman). But I’m glad to see another team not just half ass it and try to be better than just good enough to maybe get a wild card and see what happens. Baseball is better when people try.
For the record, I’m not saying they’re bad. They’re clearly not and are clearly a playoff contender even if they don’t sign Bo, so good on them for getting better. I just don’t see an obviously elite team.
They were four strikes from winning a World Championship. They are the literal definition of “elite team”.
So the 2008 Colorado Rockies were an elite team because they made the 2007 world series? How you did last year, particularly in the crapshoot that is the playoffs, is not how I’d define an elite team for next year.
They had the best record in the AL, won the pennant and got as close as anyone to beating the Dodgers after they just mowed through the playoffs with ease. They score more runs against them in an inning that the Brewers got all series. Name the better AL teams. Hard to be more elite without being the best team in baseball
Let’s not pretend that they were the runaway favorites in the American League. By Pythagorean won-loss, the Yankees were nine games better than the Blue Jays in 2025 and the Red Sox were four games better. Springer, Bichette, and Varsho were all well above what they’re likely to do in 2026.
Cease gives them an upgrade on Bassitt, Ponce should be an upgrade on Scherzer, and Santander can’t possibly be as bad as he was last season. They have reasons to believe that they can repeat, but they will have stiff competition in the East.
From May 1st the Jays were third in the majors in run differential at 111. Their roster from opening day was a disaster and they had a ton of turnover. For the majority of the season they led the league in run differential since May 1. They’re a lot better than you’re giving them credit for.
We can’t ignore April, I get that. But I also wouldn’t use pythag to argue the Yanks are 9 games better than the Jays either.
Well, you’re likely right about Springer, but Kirk and Clement have both had similar seasons in the past (better, in the case of Kirk) and this past season seemingly is line with their recent output (Clement’s numbers, for example, are almost perfectly aligned the past three seasons and his value has increased simply because he has played more games in each). Gausman is harder to gauge simply because he is reaching the age where natural regression tends to creep in; however, it is not like the 2025 season was any kind of career, or even recent, outlier.
All to say: I have no idea what you’re on about here, ha. Could Clement, Kirk, and Gausman all have worse seasons next year? Of course. Is there anything … at all … that suggests 2025 was “the best year going forward” for any of them? No. And certainly nothing that data will support. (My guess is, as it usually does, Zips will drop them a bit, but that is normal, and I doubt it will be very much.)
For Clement: it was his best career year at age 29. That, in and of itself, indicates it might be a career year. But his value was also hugely tied up in defense, which is fickle and can regress quickly. He also hits the ball incredibly softly at a high launch angle and never walks, which is not a good combination.
For Kirk, who had a similar previous season, not a better one. Elite defensive catchers buoyed by framing often go poof, like Lucroy. And I wouldn’t be thrilled about how he’s going to hold up physically going forward.
For Gausman, last year was his lowest babip season of his career, but mostly it’s as simple as, do you think a 35 year old pitcher is going to throw 193 at the same level again? I would take the under on every single pitcher throwing 193 innings in any given season these days. That was 7 guys in all of baseball last year. Pitchers are durable until they’re not. And I don’t have any reason to expect his skills will be any better. So there’s two easy possibilities for him being worse – he’s as good as last year but throws fewer innings, or his skills regress because he’s old enough to have had an AIM account.
I’d say it’s more likely than not that all 3 have worse years next year. Now, does that mean all three will? Of course not. Basic probability tells you that even if it’s a 75% chance that each one will be worse, it’s better than 50-50 that one of them won’t be.
The overall point is that they had a LOT of things go really well for them last year that have obvious indicators of regression.
Clement had a 94 wRC+ in 2024. It was 98 wRC+ in 2025. Feels pretty reasonable to say he can be an elite fielder with a 90 wRC+ for 2026. His defence shouldn’t vanish overnight in 2026.
Kirk is 27 with pretty fantastic K:BB and good enough pop for a C. Don’t think the Jays need to be too worried here. Lucroy went poof at 31.
I can see Gausman being worse than last year but still effective. They’re paying Cease to be the #1, if Gausman is a mid rotation arm the rotation will still be better than 2025. Berrios/Scherzer/Bassit/Gausman and Lauer/Francis is likely worse than Cease/Gausman/Bieber/Yesavage and Berrios/Ponce/Lauer. I’d think the rotation should be better in 2026 even if Gausman regresses.
The Jays also had a lot go wrong. Santander gave them nothing. As much as I dislike Gimenez he was 1 WAR and injured. Hoffman was awful, Scherzer and Berrios really struggled. They had key injuries to the bullpen. The lineup was amazing but the pitching staff had a fair amount go wrong.
As for the lineup the people I’d be concerned about are Springer, and Varsho putting up similar power to 2025. Kirk and Clement aren’t the ones I’d be concerned with.
I’ll take the over on Clement’s bat. That offseason looked like he was different than the regular season. Granted small sample size, but different enough that it might indicate something anyways.
I think we are no longer in the era of the superteam. The Dodgers are the closest but it’s so dependent on their rotation health that the team is a lot more precarious than previous iterations.
I am pretty sure the Dodgers would be my pick for “best team” but it’s hard to say they’re a full tier ahead of the Blue Jays and Mariners right now. (I would add the Yankees if they bring back Bellinger.) That’s not because the Blue Jays are a superteam but because I don’t think there is one right now.
Yup, the Dodgers entire rotation somehow ended up healthy for the playoffs. For that to happen again seems like lightning striking twice. We also haven’t had a 100-win team for 2 seasons now, which I think gets at the heart of the lack of superteams.
I have a difficult time seeing how anyone can look at the Yankees and Blue Jays likely opening day rosters and not think the Yankees are clearly likely to be the better team. Dodgers as well obviously. Early futures markets seem to agree with the Yankees having twice the odds to win AL as the blue jays. I realize there will be people who scoff at that and say “that just means rhe public likes the Yankees and has nothing to do with actual odds” or similar nonsense and I don’t really care to argue with those people who believe that in 2025, Its hardly dispositive and just a data point, limits are probably low, opening day rosters aren’t close to finalized etc but jays missing the playoffs will almost certainly be a lot more likely than them winning AL again which disqualifies them from remotely resembling a super team IMO
I understand how people can think the Dodgers look better, even if I disagree. But the Blue Jays are currently projected for more WAR by Depth Charts (powered by Steamer only right now). So it’s not just me.
And that’s with Steamer projecting career best years from Volpe and Wells.
I think the Yankees are higher variance than the Jays, they’re counting on a lot of guys in their 30s staying healthy and maintaining performance from last year along with consistent performances from younger players who haven’t delivered them for a full season before. They could easily win 100+ games or finish around .500, while the Jays have a bunch of 2-3 WAR guys to carry them to around 90 wins but probably not more than that.
It makes sense there would be a difference between projections and gambling odds.
I put them ahead of the Yankees. In fact my top tier right now is just LA, the Mets and the Blue Jays. Those three are in a class of their own.
I’m disappointed at the absence of Fountain of Youth puns.
Also good for Ponce. I’m rooting for him.
Just imagine if Luis De Leon can break into the Orioles rotation these 3 years.
Remember Daniel Ponce de Leon?
Autogenerated captions are still better analysis than Buck Martinez, zing
You’re the only person on Earth in the Venn diagram overlap between “people who like baseball” and “people who hate Buck Martinez”
Shame on your sir, Buck is a Canadian treasure. We have adopted him; he is no longer yours.
I like the signing for both sides. If his KBO success doesn’t translate and he ends up a back of the rotation option or even long relief, the price tag isn’t out of proportion to the results; the Dodgers paid Michael Conforto $17 million to be one of the worst regulars in the league last year. If his KBO performance does carry over even partially and he ends up even a middle-of-rotation starter, the deal is an absolute bargain.
I think he was on the KBO between King Hippo and Great Tiger if I’m not mistaken
“to say nothing of his own blog post here to commemorate the signing”
what
Is that not self-explanatory? Ponce is good enough that his signing merits a whole blog post to itself. That’s all.
I read it as he wrote his own article on Fangraphs, I was also confused for a second. That being said, French was my first language, so I have an excuse.
I miss the Lars Anderson articles!
This looks like another dart toss into the very turbulent pitching waters. I wonder how many here can make even the wildest guess about this latest stab in the dark because I know I can’t. $30 million is little more than pocket change in today’s pitching casino so all that is left to do is see how this latest risky deal works out. In yet another pitcher signing, I doubt if the Angels signing of Alek Manoah is significant enough to get an article written about it but I also found it stunning that he actually got a bonafide major league contract offer and not simply an invitation to ST from a bottom feeder. Perhaps the Angels do fit with the same group as the Pirates, Marlins and Rockies but I have been hesitant to go that far.
I have zero idea what to make of him either. But you can’t ask him to do anything more than what he did last year. It was the most dominant pitching performance in that league in this century.
Because he is already outside of anything we have seen before this is beyond any sort of easy understanding of how his newfound stuff will play in MLB. But Eric gives him a 50, and steamer thinks he will be worth more than 2 wins, and that all lines up pretty well with the contract he got.
If they can get like 400 innings and 5 WAR out of the life of the contract, that would be pretty good.
It seems like teams are spending ~$10M/WAR, so I agree that would be a good outcome. If he somehow becomes a legit #3 starter, that contract ends up being a steal. If he’s replacement level, that’s not a contract that will kill you. I really like this deal from a risk-reward perspective.
As someone who knows virtually nothing about the quality of the KBO, what would be the rough equivalent in North America?
I don’t think there’s an exact equivalent. Overall it’s probably like AAA but it’s weird because I think it is a league of junkballers.
Imagine a league filled with starters like Jason Vargas, Shawn Marcum, Tommy Milone, and Carlos Villanueva. And then imagine a guy coming in who is sitting mid 90s. It’s hard to know how hitters will deal when there isn’t a 5 mph difference between his pitches and everyone else’s. But at the minimum I don’t think he is going to be *worse* than Erick Fedde was when he came back stateside and probably noticeably better.
Interesting. Thanks!
I should say: better than the average of Fedde across two years. He was pretty good in 2024 but he only averaged about 1.5 fWAR across two.
The KBO is definitely not like AAA. It is very clearly a step down from the NPB, where Ponce previously struggled. The KBO is more like AA or even High-A.
The NPB is a higher standard than AAA, though.
I’d call KBO something like AA.5 (easier to say than type!)
“Double-A-and-a-half” I would call it!
I was going with “Two Point Five A,” haha!
There are many players in Japan who would never reach AAA, which is precisely why we debate how Munetaka Murakami’s NPB numbers will translate and why many failed major leaguers have had great success in Japan. The average fastball velocity there was 91.3 mph in 2024 while AAA is three miles per hour higher.
Basically, an All-Star NPB team would crush a AAA All-Star team, but the median NPB player is comparable to the median AAA player and the replacement level in NPB is significantly lower than the replacement level in AAA.
The KBO isn’t even close to the NPB, which is why I waffled between AA and High-A. There are no perfect comparisons, so we could debate them until the end of time, but it is worth noting that Ponce was mediocre with Rakuten in 2024 before dominating with Hanwha in 2025. I’m not sure when he developed the kick change, so that could also explain the massive jump in performance.
Based on reports the kick change was a new pitch for him this season and he learned it in the offseason working out with Clay Holmes.
He also was throwing his fastball 2-3 MPH harder than in the past so was a different pitcher this season.
For me the biggest question for this contract and a large factor in whether or not it will be a good one for the Jays is how well Ponce is able to translate his better stuff from last season to the MLB ball and if he can maintain it with an MLB starters workload.
Like I said, I don’t think we have much idea what Cody Ponce is going to look like when he gets back to MLB based on his performance there. He’s so much of an outlier there that I’m pretty sure he’ll be above replacement, but we don’t have any understanding of what this means because no one has done anything like this in KBO in at least 20+ years.
The case for him is based on “stuff” he didn’t have before like you’re saying. I’ll be very interested to see what he’s like over here.
Yeah, alright, the KBO is more like AA. That’s fair enough. There’s a big difference there.
I would put the NPB somewhere in between AAA and MLB. It’s super hard to judge though, there are some types of players who would get killed in NPB but not AAA and the reverse because of the velocity difference.
It seems like if you can strike out guys in NPB you can pitch in MLB (although to go with my theory you have to believe something was wrong with Roki Sasaki). Striking out hitters is even more important in MLB than it is in NPB, and arguably just as hard because hitters there hate striking out. But hitting in NPB isn’t any real guarantee of hitting in MLB. There are plenty of players who thrive in NPB because they can’t hit MLB-caliber fastballs but can feast on the pitching in NPB.
I think what I’m saying is: I would take a flyer on Foster Griffin a lot sooner than I would take one on Franmil Reyes. And I believe a whole lot more in Tatusya Imai than Murakami.
Hilarious auto-dubbed English commentary is right.
I lost it at “What do these tears mean.”
If he isn’t worth the money will the next headline be, “Ponce Upon a Midnight Dreary?”