Rating All the Playoff Teams
Pretty soon, there are going to be nine playoff teams remaining. Pretty soon after that, the field will narrow to eight. In time, there will be four, then two, then one, the one remaining team being the champion. Say what you will about the MLB playoffs, but they never fail to select someone. There will be nine losers and one winner, and the winner will write the story. In some way or ways, the winner will have been the best team of the month.
Who *looks like* the best team of the month? That, we can try to answer today. The playoffs begin only a few hours from now. A few hours after that, either the Twins or the Yankees will be eliminated. Before that happens, I thought we’d do some rating. Some rating that goes beyond just basic regular-season records — some rating that considers how playoff rosters are constructed. I did this a year ago, and I’m doing it again.
We’re beginning baseball’s seventh month, and although these 10 teams have already played for six, the fact of the matter is that their compositions have changed. Rosters have changed, and performances have changed, and even more important than that, playoff baseball isn’t exactly like regular-season baseball. In the playoffs, you get to lean more heavily on your best players. In the playoffs, you don’t need so much depth.
You don’t need to tell me that none of the numbers in this post actually matter. Baseball will solve itself, and many October outcomes will have been unpredictable. I get it, and that’s the fun of the whole thing. Doesn’t mean there’s no point in looking at relative strengths today. For the 10 playoff teams, we’ve updated our depth charts to go into playoff mode, with guesses for playoff rosters and playing time. To start with, here’s how all the teams would project, over full-season equivalents, in terms of WAR. In theory, projections are the best measures of true-talent level. So might this table be, for teams.
| Team | Position Players | Starters | Relievers | WAR | Wins per 162 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dodgers | 28 | 23 | 7 | 58 | 106 |
| Indians | 26 | 23 | 7 | 56 | 104 |
| Astros | 31 | 18 | 6 | 55 | 102 |
| Nationals | 24 | 23 | 6 | 52 | 100 |
| Cubs | 27 | 19 | 6 | 52 | 99 |
| Red Sox | 25 | 20 | 6 | 51 | 99 |
| Yankees | 24 | 18 | 8 | 50 | 98 |
| Diamondbacks | 19 | 17 | 3 | 40 | 87 |
| Rockies | 19 | 15 | 5 | 39 | 86 |
| Twins | 20 | 12 | 3 | 35 | 83 |
That last column is simply the second-to-last column, plus a constant. The playoff Dodgers, for example, would be expected to win something like 106 games, if they got to exist over a full season. They narrowly edge out the Indians, who narrowly edge out the Astros, who narrowly edge out the Nationals, and so on. As far as I’m concerned, this is a story of two tiers. You’ve got seven teams in one group, and then you have the Diamondbacks, Rockies, and Twins, who come away looking substantially worse. There’s a double-digit WAR gap between seventh place and eighth. You can argue the numbers as much as you want, but I didn’t make them up from nothing.
Incidentally, when I did this same analysis last October, there were three teams in this table that reached 50+ WAR. This time around, we’re looking at seven. There’s something meaningful in there, I think — the best of this year’s playoff teams are awfully good. You all probably already had a hunch, but all the best teams have been beefed up. This is why it’s so hard to pick a favorite. There are six or seven really, really, really good teams.
On the position-player side, the Astros project the best, with the Diamondbacks and Rockies the worst. It’s not a surprise, because the Astros just had one of the better lineups in modern baseball history. They hit for contact and they hit for power, which could make them something of a postseason nightmare for opponents. Isolating rotations, we’ve got a three-way tie for best between the Dodgers, Indians, and Nationals. They all benefit from getting to lean more heavily on their aces. The Twins, of course, bring up the rear. The Twins are also last in the bullpen, tied with the Diamondbacks. The Yankees are out in front, as you’d figure. Bullpen projections might be the trickiest ones, since we can’t project extreme reliever-usage patterns, but most of the time, these things look normal. The 2016 Indians were the exception.
Okay, so, that all deals with projections. It’s usually safest to deal with projections. But I’ve also broken things down, looking at only 2017 statistics. We can start by going team-by-team through the position players. Here’s how all the teams look, weighting by projected postseason playing time.
| Team | wRC+ | BsR | Def | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dodgers | 118 | 13 | 37 | 37 |
| Astros | 123 | 6 | -35 | 36 |
| Nationals | 115 | 12 | 14 | 32 |
| Yankees | 111 | 6 | -9 | 30 |
| Cubs | 109 | -8 | 30 | 28 |
| Indians | 109 | -8 | -5 | 27 |
| Twins | 103 | 16 | 1 | 25 |
| Diamondbacks | 109 | 7 | -27 | 24 |
| Red Sox | 98 | 5 | 16 | 22 |
| Rockies | 96 | -13 | 7 | 15 |
Based on how the players actually did this year, the Astros have the best hitters, while the Dodgers have the best overall players. The Twins, Dodgers, and Nationals look like the biggest threats in terms of running the bases, while the Dodgers and Cubs appear to have the best team defenses. The Red Sox and Rockies look considerably weaker than the rest of the group at the plate, with the Rockies being worse than the Red Sox across the board. I should note that this excludes any aspect of pitchers hitting. It’ll matter, of course, but it’s unlikely to matter much, and I don’t care about pitchers at the plate when I’m trying to run team comparisons across leagues.
Let’s move on to starting pitchers.
| Team | ERA- | FIP- | RA9-WAR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Indians | 75 | 73 | 29 | 27 |
| Nationals | 65 | 77 | 31 | 25 |
| Red Sox | 81 | 84 | 22 | 21 |
| Astros | 74 | 82 | 28 | 21 |
| Dodgers | 75 | 85 | 27 | 20 |
| Yankees | 84 | 85 | 19 | 19 |
| Diamondbacks | 71 | 85 | 24 | 19 |
| Cubs | 87 | 90 | 17 | 17 |
| Rockies | 88 | 93 | 19 | 15 |
| Twins | 95 | 100 | 14 | 12 |
The Nationals look the best by ERA, and therefore by RA9-WAR. Clearly, any rotation will look great when it gets to begin with Max Scherzer and Stephen Strasburg. But Gio Gonzalez’s unsustainable ERA is kind of throwing this off. FIP tends to feel more reliable, and that’s where the Indians stand out, moving a little ahead of the Nationals. You won’t be surprised to find the Twins at the bottom. It might be more surprising to see the Cubs down there, but, well, what happened happened. I should say that, as far as the Diamondbacks are concerned, the playoff format hurts them a little, because their rotation was strong one through five. That fifth starter isn’t going to matter. Too bad. Them’s the breaks!
Bullpens, now.
| Team | ERA- | FIP- | RA9-WAR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yankees | 60 | 60 | 12 | 11 |
| Indians | 61 | 65 | 13 | 11 |
| Dodgers | 67 | 74 | 12 | 10 |
| Red Sox | 57 | 71 | 14 | 9 |
| Rockies | 75 | 78 | 9 | 8 |
| Diamondbacks | 74 | 79 | 8 | 7 |
| Astros | 85 | 83 | 8 | 7 |
| Nationals | 75 | 84 | 9 | 6 |
| Cubs | 74 | 84 | 9 | 6 |
| Twins | 88 | 92 | 5 | 4 |
The Yankees bullpen is SO GOOD. Also, the Indians bullpen is SO GOOD. You’d expect to see those two teams at the top. You’d also, again, presumably expect to see the Twins at the bottom. They’re going to need a lot of good fortune to escape play tonight, to say nothing of any further baseball down the road. As far as the Red Sox go, every bullpen is somewhat volatile, but their fate could be determined by David Price and Carson Smith, who could conceivably go either way. Maybe they’ll serve as high-leverage firemen. Maybe they’ll come apart. I don’t really know, and a team like, say, the Yankees is thankful to not be dealing with so much uncertainty.
Putting it all together, we can mirror the first table in this post.
| Team | Position Players | Starters | Relievers | WAR | Wins per 162 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dodgers | 37 | 20 | 10 | 67 | 114 |
| Indians | 27 | 27 | 11 | 65 | 112 |
| Nationals | 32 | 25 | 6 | 64 | 111 |
| Astros | 36 | 21 | 7 | 63 | 111 |
| Yankees | 30 | 19 | 11 | 60 | 108 |
| Red Sox | 22 | 21 | 9 | 52 | 100 |
| Cubs | 28 | 17 | 6 | 50 | 98 |
| Diamondbacks | 24 | 19 | 7 | 50 | 97 |
| Twins | 25 | 12 | 4 | 41 | 88 |
| Rockies | 15 | 15 | 8 | 39 | 86 |
By the projections, there were two tiers, with seven teams looking strong, and with the Diamondbacks, Rockies, and Twins looking weaker. Isolating just how players performed in 2017, you might pick out three tiers. In the top group, you’ve got the Dodgers, Indians, Nationals, Astros, and Yankees. In the middle group, you’ve got the Red Sox, Cubs, and Diamondbacks. And then in the bottom group, you’ve got the Twins and the Rockies. I’d say it all more or less matches up with the perception. Clearly, the two second wild cards would look the weakest out of everyone. And then at the top, good lord, everyone’s terrific. Again, a year ago, for this same exercise, two teams reached 60 WAR, and four teams reached 50. This year, we’re at four and eight, respectively. I don’t know the last time there was such a clear distinction between the haves and have-nots. I don’t know the last time there were so many haves.
If you want a favorite, then, technically, by the projections and by the 2017 statistics, the Dodgers are out in front. Yet the analyses are imperfect, and we can’t predict all the playing times accurately, and certain guys have injury questions. In reality, there’s a handful of favorites, meaning there isn’t a favorite. In these playoffs, there are only obvious underdogs. Ervin Santana’s going to start for one of them pretty soon. As soon as he does, we can leave all these numbers behind, and just focus on the actual gameplay.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Hope Yanks advance tonight. Really want to see how they utilize the pen. If Girardi plays t right could be one of the tougher teams to get past.
Really rooting for the Galactic Empire going forward. If they utilize the shock troops right, this could be something special.
Jeff on fangraphs I’ve got the combined WAR for starting pitchers as 23 for Indians. You’ve got 27. What am I missing? selected team stats, pitchers and starters
https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=5#SP
Thanks Jeff, SP section for Cleveland still shows 23.2 WAR. What do I add/change to get this to 27?
You’re looking at how the whole rotation performed this season. I’m just looking at the expected playoff starters, and the expected playing time they’ll get.
Ah, cheers for explaining. Very new to the world of sabermetrics. Loved the article, always look forward to reading your work.
A little humility wouldn’t hurt, JO.
If it helps, the 23 you are looking for is in the the first table of the article which lists the teams projections. Jeff got the 27 by using the same playing time projections from the above link but substituted the rest of the projections with players’ actual 2017 performances to get the new WAR.
Thank you Dane this has helped me a lot. Much appreciated.
Does the bullpen assessment account for changes in how pitchers are used? Seems to me that the DBacks lose some at starter because they don’t get to use all 5 starters, but on the other hand, they can put Godley or Walker down in the bullpen where he kicks some lesser reliever like a JJ Hoover off the roster. Probably doesn’t make much difference overall, but it seems like that would give the DBacks and probably the Dodgers (with their 8 starting pitchers) a little boost down in the pen.
It makes a huge difference, Walker/Godley are gonna be awesome in the pen. D-backs own Jon Gray…
In 2017 (2016), D-Backs hitters slashed .264/.308/.458 (.280/.296/.440) vs Gray. That’s pretty much Ryon Healy’s 2017 line (.271/.302/.451) but at Coors/Chase. Not sure I’d call that “owning”.
look at Peralta(.462), Marte (.333) Pollock (.429), Lamb (.308), J.D (.333) I think J.D. took him deep twice in one game!…These are the guys who will be playing in the WC, not sure who’s stats you’re looking at…Delcaso, Blanco, Herrmann, Hazelbaker, etc. will probably NOT see the field.
The flaw in your plan is no matter who you look at, player-based matchup data have no marginal predictive value.
oh really because that what this ENTIRE SITE IS BASED ON, and be sure to inform the people that make a living on daily fantasy baseball. they do not know this yet…lol. A baseball player entire career is a series of “player-based match-ups” hahaha everyone just want s to contradict me and will say completely retarded shit. be proud of your low IQ!
I’m a Yankees fan, so I’m obviously biased, but I really don’t want to see the Twins advance. If there’s a candidate for someone to get absolutely STEAMROLLED in the next round, I feel like it’s them, and that’s boring.
But, hey, it’s baseball. So when the Twins win the World Series, I’ll owe everyone an apology for the ridiculous thing I just said.
Kindly go insert a recent trophy in your rectum. Gently as possible. There are fans from other regions who could use a few postseason wins.
Yankees over the Dodgers in the Series, 4 games to 2.
I’m looking forward to the Freeway Series: Dodgers over Angels, 4 games to 1.
/silliness
Reggie Jackson leans into a throw, Nettles stands on his head at third.
The Yankees are a really interesting case to me. Ordinarily, you’d think that a WC winner is at a disadvantage in the Div Series because they often have to burn their best starter in the WC game. You know, like the Yankees throwing Severino tonight. But their bullpen is so good, and with the built-in off days, Girardi has a lot more flexibility than most any other manager for making up those quality innings. Minnesota is basically the exact opposite; if they win tonight, they have a pretty unappealing grab bag of arms to choose from to go up against Cleveland. Hard to imagine them not getting swept, but most people (myself included) think NY can give them a series.
“Good job jinxing the Dodgers, again.” Those who don’t talk about a no-hitter in progress
You project Twins as the worst team now… but what you’ve forgottenn to project is Nick Punto, Doug Mientkiewicz and Matt Tolbert triumphantly coming out of retirement and leading the Twins on an unstoppable march to postseason glory. FOR TWINS! FOR GLORY!
Yes, Nick Punto was a big help to the Twins…
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/twins-nick-punto-remembered-game-3-baserunning-blooper-article-1.386987
That sound you hear is a joke going directly over your head.
I heard Kent Hrbek was knocking the rust off his wrassling moves at first base, too.
Is it just me or do teams that lose the WS invariably win it all the next year? Hard to cheer against Cleveland.
I find it quite easy to cheer against Cleveland, tbh.
It’s happened once in 26 years so it must just be you.
I have to take some umbrage with the only mention of the Boston bullpen being about uncertainty and, by extension, a focus on the negative. In fact, the mostly Price- and Smith-less Boston bullpen was nearly as effective on a results basis, so clearly it was already a fairly high-quality item. Price and Smith are more like the difference between it being a difference-maker and it potentially being as good as New York’s and Cleveland’s.
The Red Sox bullpen is the only reason they are in the ALDS. The offensive was offensive, not a single batter with an OPS of over.800, and, beyond Sale and Pomeranz, the starters were an adventure in inconsistency. The 15-3 record in extra innings all falls on the shoulders of the pen. When the game was close the pen performed. A couple of bad outings, usually when it didn’t matter, hurt the numbers on several guys. Kimbrel makes any bullpen very strong, Reed is a solid set-up man and Price could easily be Miller.
Lol wut?
People underrate the cubs because of their first half. the second half they played at a 108 win pace (second best in Baseball) and their wRC+ is tied second with the Indians and twins at 110.
now usually we shouldnt’t look at smaller sample sizes and the first half matters but the cubs preseason projection was like 106 or so, so the 100 is probably closer to their true Talent than their first half (although they had a 328 babip so there is some Regression to be expected).
but even in the first half they were dragged down by a terrible 6 week period and were quite ok in july again, so I assume they are a true Talent 105 wRC+ Team (equivalent to about a 110 in the AL).
that means the cubs are probably the best hitting NL Team and the second or third best hitting Team in the Majors (although astros are still quite a bit better as their second half wRC+ was dragged down to significant injuries to correa and springer who are both back now)
now there still is pitching and that has regressed but with the Quintana move cubs did something there too.
Overall the cubs are still one of the best Teams.
I’m not saying they are the favorite to win it all but I think they are at least on par with the dodgers in the nl and behind the Indians but on par with the yanks and astros.
Jeff, I thought it odd the way in which some teams’ wRC+ fluctuated between the actual 2017 figure and the projected playoff wRC+ using 2017 performance.
Diamondbacks +8
Dodgers +7
Nationals +7
Red Sox +5
Yankees +3
Indians +2
Rockies +2
Twins +1
Astros +1
A lot of things stand out to me, but what stood out the most was that the Astros only go from 122 wRC+ to 123 rWC+ despite the fact that we are assuming the best players play more and that they’d get a full season from Springer and Correa. I have to figure it is just poor playing time projections. There’s probably something like 700 PAs given to Maybin and Beltran that should be going to Gonzalez and Gattis, and I bet it makes for a pretty big swing. Gonzalez will probably get most of the starts in LF in the playoff and he is listed as getting like half of the appearances he got during the actual 2017 season.
Edit:I also can’t shake the feeling that the DH makes it hard for an apples to apples comparison between leagues. Like, why do we assume 300 PAs for DH for NL teams, and how does this affect WAR totals, and why do the other positions have the same number of PAs as the AL teams if we know they will get fewer opportunities when a pitcher bats, and etc.?
I think Arizona is better than their 7th place in both those summary tables. I know they lose something for the “wasted” value of their good #5 SP, and maybe they bested their 3rd-order figures. But there are other signs of hidden strength. One example:
Record against other playoff-caliber teams — Among the playoff field, Arizona played the most games against teams that finished .525 and up (i.e., the playoff field plus Milwaukee) — about twice as many such games as Houston and Washington. They were 4th in the group by W% in those games (36-31), 3rd by PythW%. They went 16-10 against the three 100-win teams — 11-8 vs. LA, 3-0 vs. Cleveland, 2-2 vs. Houston. The Cubs, for example, did quite poorly in this measure.
Since total WAR is fixed, it could also be that the worst teams have reached new lows, leaving a higher concentration of wins at the top. This is why I don’t love using team WAR totals to compare teams across decades.