Sam Fuld and Completing the A’s
I’m going to tell you something you’re not going to like. You’re going to think this is stupid, and you’re going to want to dismiss this as rubbish, but, I mean, let’s just get right to the point. If nothing else, this is where we’ll start. Early Thursday, the A’s gave up Yoenis Cespedes and more for Jon Lester and more. A little later Thursday, the A’s gave up Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld. Losing Cespedes opened up a spot in the outfield; adding Fuld plugged it. Here is a fun fact:
Career
Cespedes: 2.9 WAR / 600 plate appearances
Fuld: 2.5 WAR / 600 plate appearances
Obviously, Cespedes has a thousand times more natural talent. Obviously, Cespedes has more potential and a higher ceiling. Obviously, Cespedes is younger. Obviously, that’s a little deceptive because Fuld has spent a lot of time as a defensive replacement. Obviously, we can trust the defensive metrics only so much, and obviously, Cespedes is the more marketable player since he has some of the purest right-handed power in the sport. But here is the general message: Sam Fuld is not far and away an inferior overall player, compared to Yoenis Cespedes. At least, they’re somewhat close. And this year, specifically this year, Fuld’s been worth the same WAR in a fraction of the time. So you can see why the A’s are happy to get Fuld back, a few months after designating him for assignment.
That’s the funny bit here. The A’s already had Fuld for free, and they dumped him. To get him back, they’ve had to give up a cost-controlled starting pitcher. So, the Twins got Fuld for free after the A’s dropped him, and they flipped him for a classic Twins-style starter. In that sense, this looks kind of stupid on Oakland’s part, but circumstances are always changing and, before, there wasn’t room for Fuld. Before, it wasn’t clear Fuld would even be a contributor. And we can say this: Fuld isn’t joining an altogether unfamiliar clubhouse. He’s going to be welcomed back.
What we know with a high degree of certainty is that Fuld isn’t much of an impact hitter. He’s been about 13% worse than average since breaking into the bigs, with good discipline but almost zero power. He’s a guy who hits like a middle infielder, sharing more in common with Barry Zito at the plate than Miguel Cabrera, but he isn’t valuable because of his offense — the A’s, it would appear, are big believes in Fuld’s defensive instincts and range. Which is understandable, since:
Fuld’s been a perfectly adequate defensive center fielder, and he’s been an outstanding defensive corner outfielder. He has just enough bat to hang around in a lineup, and he’s versatile and unlikely to complain if he isn’t playing every day. He has a similar profile to Craig Gentry, so that’s evidence the A’s like this player type, but that’s another thing: there was some urgency here, because Cespedes was dealt, and Gentry is currently injured, and Coco Crisp is also fighting something that’s keeping him down. Crisp’s been bothered by a neck problem, and this is from John Shea:
Crisp was hurt May 7 running into the Coliseum outfield wall and making contact with a metal post instead of the padding, leaving him with whiplash. The A’s are considering options to deal with the condition, including medication. Crisp might not fully recover until the offseason.
“I think we’ve all come to the realization it’s something he’s going to battle throughout the season,” [trainer Nick] Paparesta said.
So Fuld is both a potential starter and certain insurance. The A’s aren’t sure how healthy their outfield is, and Josh Reddick is always a candidate to need another trip to the disabled list. Fuld’s healthy and he can play everywhere, providing for the A’s some flexibility they’ve lost due to injury problems.
Fuld obviously isn’t a great player, and while he has another two years of team control coming up, he turns 33 in November. It’s a particularly unsexy kind of win-now move, but the cost wasn’t exorbitant — the cost was a low-ceiling starter who’s preferred a trade since getting buried on the depth chart. By sending Tommy Milone to the Twins, the A’s are losing future value, but they’re losing nothing as far as 2014 is concerned, and Milone isn’t exactly the irreplaceable sort.
The big benefit for Minnesota: they turned an unnecessary piece into three years of a strike-throwing starter with arbitration eligibility. In Triple-A, Milone has generated a laughable 187 strikeouts and 26 walks. He hasn’t duplicated those numbers in the majors, and he presumably never will, but he owns an average career ERA with decent peripherals. Ricky Nolasco owns a worse-than-average career ERA and the Twins gave him $49 million. The greatest surplus value comes from young stars under team control, but young role players can still get paid less than they’d be worth as free agents, so there’s a future purpose here.
Milone’s lost a bit of his underwhelming fastball. This season has been his worst season yet, and in a brief stint in Triple-A he hasn’t thrown many strikes. Maybe that’s just frustration with being there in the first place. Clearly, Milone’s stock is down relative to where it was several months ago, but every team in baseball would grab Milone if he were available for free. He was available to the Twins in exchange for a 32-year-old defensive specialist, which is basically free as far as a rebuilding franchise is concerned. The Twins didn’t have much of a use for Fuld. The found the team that might value him the most. Milone might not help very much in 2016, but Fuld was never going to, so it’s a perfectly worthwhile roll of the dice.
Everything works out, then. Milone wanted a change of scenery, and he landed with the organization that most values his kind of skillset. The Twins got a potential longer-term starter in exchange for an aging outfielder they picked up for nothing. The A’s addressed a need with a versatile player who complements the rest of the roster. And now Fuld gets to play an important stretch-run role on probably the best team in baseball. The year is 2014, and the Red Sox are selling, and the A’s are a juggernaut, and Sam Fuld is an Oakland outfield regular. You might’ve heard that you can’t predict baseball. Billy Beane understands that as much as anyone, but he’s never before had odds so strong in his favor. Next year is Future Beane’s problem. This year’s about winning the World Series, with Jon Lester, and Jeff Samardzija, and Sam Fuld.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.



Awesome, awesome article. This perfectly summarizes a lot of stuff that I was having trouble articulating when screaming about these deals earlier. Thanks.
And by earlier, I mean 20 minutes ago. For the record.
Sam Fuld is not a worthless player, but his utility to the Oakland Athletics is considerably less than to other teams that don’t already have several defense-first outfielders. Craig Gentry is only expected to miss a couple weeks, whereas Oakland presumably will be awful at second base the rest of the season and throughout the playoffs. Dealing Millone is fine, but dealing him for yet another defensive outfielder instead of a competent second baseman is Beane’s least defensible move this season.
Helps that Gentry and Fuld are opposite-handed
Despite that, Fuld and Genry have the same splits with both being significantly better against LHP than RHP both this season and for their careers.
although from a quick look at the splits it seems that fuld is one of those weird hits-same-handed-pitching-better guys…
But its only in about 300 PAs, probably not be much to that.
Jonny Gomes anyone?
Yeah, seems odd that in a discussion of the Oakland deadline trades and outfield make-up that Jonny Gomes doesn’t even get a passing mention.
“The A’s used Yoenis Cespedes to land the Red Sox ace, and picked up Jonny Gomes as a replacement for the right-handed slugger they just traded away.”
“The A’s outfield downgrade may actually be larger than their pitching upgrade, since Gomes is just not very good.”
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jon-lester-and-the-as-fascinating-big-bet-on-2014/
I don’t know, but that looks like a passing mention to me.
i like him on the bench rather than lf where he cost 4 bases/2runs game 1 vs angels.
But Fuld is extremely valuable to the A’s right now until Gentry and Crisp are back. They need someone to play outfield. And with the way the Angels are playing maintaining first is not a given.
Is there any realistic chance that Sam Fuld accounts for even one win within two weeks?
Thank God it’s not the middle of September, amirite?
As a Rangers fan, I’ll add in that no matter what the report says, Gentry is always a candidate to make his way to the DL. Broken hands aren’t exactly easy to come back from, and he’s always one play away from getting injured again.
I agree with a lot of what you said. I would also argue that after making some adjustments earlier in the year, this has been his best season in the majors.
The A’s set their roster up to exploit splits. Fuld is a guy with a .390 OBP against left-handed pitching. Cespedes is at .319. Situationally upping your your defense while bumping your OBP by 71 points is nothing to sneeze at.
His career split isn’t nearly as favorable though. What would be nice to see though is a late close situation in which you throw Gentry AND Fuld out in the OF and hope for the best.
The problem is that Gentry and Gomes both favor left-handed pitching as well.
All the better to crush David Price in the ALCS
Once Gentry and/or Crisp can play more regularly, I think what we’re going to see is something like:
Against LHP: Gomes starts in LF, Vogt available for RHP in relief, Fuld defensive replacement.
Against RHP (option 1): Vogt starts in RF, Gomes available for LHP in relief, Fuld defensive replacement.
Against RHP (options 2): Vogt starts at 1B, Fuld starts in RF, Gomes available for LHP in relief.
For now, with Crisp and Gentry more or less out, Fuld/Moss/Reddick/Vogt/Burns/Gomes will be mixing up time, with Reddick and Moss playing almost every day, just switching back and forth from RF to CF or RF to 1B, respectively.
As an aside, I’d just like to point out that this post serves as a slight impeachment of Andrew Friedman’s genius status given that he cut bait with Gomes, Vogt, and Fuld.
And John Jaso. Does it also mean the Twins were stupid to trade a 2.5 WAR OF for a 1 WAR pitcher?
There’s no doubt the A’s will be using the versatility of this roster to try and exploit platoon splits. If only they were going after a guy like Bonifacio or Zobrist to replace Sogard. Of course Sogard was so very close to being the Face of the MLB so you can’t get rid of him!
This screams Instagraphs, but hey it’s Sam Fuld Sabers favorite replacement player.
Except for the whole “2.5 WAR/600 PA” thing, then yes 🙂
And yet he’s never seen more than 350 ABs in a season, hmmmm.
Fuld is actually having a career year with that .356 OBP and 12.7% walk rate, and the As have been missing a leadoff hitter with Crisp out.
Because career years are so projectable. It’s an understandable win-now move, no need to try to spin it into some incredible deal.
“This year’s about winning the World Series, with Jon Lester, and Jeff Samardzija, and Sam Fuld.”
…and Eric Sogard.
We can’t forget about Sogard!
Brilliant piece. Writer Sullivan jettisoned all hype and just looked at the reality with sharp, plain eyes. Kind of amazing. Thank you Team FanGraphs!
I am better than Sam Fuld and Coco Crisp and Josh Reddick.
Of course they DFA Fuld in the first place to preserve the relationship with Daric Barton
Don’t make me remember that
6 months’ ago you wouldn’t have traded Milone for a dozen Fulds. Unless the A’s know he’s broken, this is selling Milone at his absolute lowest and buying Fuld at his absolute highest. (yes, I do hate everything Billy Beane has done in the last month)
Minor point about defense: how much is Fuld’s superior range offset by an arm (presumably) inferior to Cespedes? I can’t help but envision a 2014 version of a Francisco Cabrera single, with Cespedes nailing Sid Bream at the plate, and Fuld’s throw faring no better than Bonds’.
Dat was a nice throw.
Have to imagine Gomes is expected to replace Cespedes offense and Fuld is simply to replace defensive issues in CF due to injuries. The trade fills a hole in the OF, replaces in part Cespedes offense (not entirely of course), and they get an elite SP’er who has excelled in the post season. Such deals have to be evaluated in their entirety and not broken into pieces (eg Fuld was not traded for a SP’er, from the A’s view he was just a piece in the overall deal that sent one to the Twins)
But where does Billy Burns fit into this picture? Or is only a September call-up?
Trading an established innings-eater with eligibility for a 33-year-old 4th outfielder is not good value unless the innings-eater is broken.
I like this move by Ryan a lot. He’s not a strikeout guy, though and I wonder how much he’s helped by the huge amount of foul territory and the defense (As are 5th in defensive runs saved and 3rd in UZR). Twins are really bad in both those areas.
I am still optimistic, though.
I found the above written by someone else but it sums up my thoughts exactly so I posted it.
Typical Fangraphs, jerking off the A’s and belittling other teams. For all the talking about FIP and xFIP that normally goes on here, Sullivan somehow conveniently forgets to mention those when talking about the contract the Twins gave Nolasco, choosing instead to focus on his career ERA, which is .75 runs higher than his FIP and xFIP. Nolsaco also had been averaging about 3 WAR a season. Obviously, if Nolasco had a career 4.5 FIP the Twins wouldn’t have given him a $49 million contract. And I bet if the Twins DFA’d Fuld and then grabbed him back later in the year by trading a decent pitcher, Fangraphs would be laughing at the move. But it’s Billy Beane, he can’t do anything wrong! He’s a genius, this has to be a smart move!
Twins are paying Nolasco 12M this year and he’s been worth less than 3M with 2/3 of the season in the books. Are you arguing that the Nolasco signing was a good signing by the Twins?
oh, and did he say this was a bad trade for the Twins? No. He said it was a good trade for the Twins. How did he belittle them, exactly, in regards to this trade?
August 27 v. Astros = Sam Fuld hits game winning home run
theres so many “matchup” guys on the a’s roster theres not even room to play them all in the right matchups.