Scouting Earth’s Best Young Arm, Lucas Giolito

Lucas Giolito was once the 2012 draft’s odds-on first-overall selection. As he began his senior season at Harvard-Westlake, Giolito was seen as the most talented player in a draft class that included Byron Buxton and Carlos Correa. It would have made him the first and only high-school righty to be selected at 1.1 in the draft’s history. But then Giolito felt discomfort in his elbow during the first inning of an early-March start (he was up to 100 mph and had thrown a one-hitter the start before) and removed himself from the game in the second.

An MRI revealed damage to Giolito’s UCL but not so much that he would require immediate ligament reconstruction. Despite that, Giolito’s season was over and so, too, were his chances of going first overall. As the draft approached and the Astros, who possessed the first pick, shifted their focus toward Correa and other prospects (including Giolito’s teammate Max Fried), the industry wondered when and where Giolito would be selected. There wasn’t much precedent at the time for pre-draft UCL injuries and Giolito’s stock remained volatile until very late in the process. He was still being mocked within the top-five picks into late May.

The Nationals drafted Giolito 16th overall and signed him, at the deadline, for $2.925 million, exactly $800,000 over the pick’s slot value at that time and about $300,000 more than the slot’s value in 2016. Giolito threw two innings for the Nationals’ GCL team on August 14th of that year. On August 31st, Dr. Lewis Yocum fixed his elbow.

Giolito returned 10 months later, especially notable considering that effective Tommy John rehabilitations generally require 12-18 months. It has been almost exactly three years since Giolito made his first post-TJ start and his stuff has returned to pre-surgery levels.

This season the fastball has mostly been 93-96 and up to 99 (even from the stretch) with a rare combination of downhill plane and horizontal movement. That plane comes from Giolito’s size (6-foot-6, 255 pounds) and trebuchet overhand delivery and leads to plenty of ground balls. According to MLBfarm.com, 54% of balls put in play against Giolito have been grounders. While his fastball merely flashes 80 velocity and usually sits in the 60-70 graded range, it plays up because of the downhill plane and because of moderate deception in Giolito’s delivery.

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Giolito has had some issues with control this season, including his last start for Double-A Harrisburg in which he walked four in 4.2 innings. Things unraveled in the fifth inning of that start – he recorded the first four outs of the game on five pitches – as Giolito walked three hitters in that frame. Command issues aren’t unusual for massive 21-year-olds; that Giolito has only had rashes of it for the odd start or inning is more encouraging than if it were a chronic issue plaguing him every time out. Giolito had not walked multiple hitters in a single June start until his last outing. While we may see some strike-throwing issues early in his MLB career, I think Giolito will eventually have above-average control and average command.

One evaluator who has seen Giolito struggle with control think he gets preoccupied with runners on base. Pitchers of Giolito’s size often have long times to home from the stretch – Giolito hovers around 1.5 seconds, which is a little slow – and have to do more to vary their pacing to disrupt would-be base-stealers. Giolito has improved his ability to hold runners but it isn’t yet second nature to him, and it’s possible some of his strike-throwing issues stem from this particular aspect of his growth. That said, he shows no notable uptick in his walk rate with runners on base.

The secondary stuff, especially the curveball, is impressive. Giolito’s fabled curveball has an incredible amount of depth to it considering its velocity. It comes in around 82-84 mph but still features great downward movement and will sometimes bend horizontally as well, especially when it’s located to Giolito’s glove side. He has become particularly adept at locating the breaking ball to the back foot of left-handed hitters and he can throw it for strikes in the zone as well, though he does this less often. It’s an easy plus pitch that flashes plus-plus.

That Giolito has weaponized his breaking ball against lefties is especially important considering that his changeup, which spans about 82-86 mph, is clearly his third-best pitch. The quality of the cambio ranges anywhere from a 45 to a 55 on the scouting scale and projects to sit at the top end of that range as he matures. When Giolito maintains his arm speed and locates the pitch down and to his arm side, it looks like the fastball out of his hands and slips down and away from left-handed hitters.

This is the best pitching prospect in baseball. Elite size, velocity and a potentially elite curveball with the requisite athleticism both to throw strikes and develop a, not only acceptable, but potentially impactful changeup. Giolito is the rare minor-league pitcher who, based purely on grading out stuff, has top-of-the rotation upside. I think, initially, he’ll allow more contact (especially on the curveball) than most are anticipating and there will inevitably be other growing pains. But barring something catastrophic, I believe Lucas Giolito will eventually become a #1-2 starter, the bane of the existence of hitters every fifth day for many years.





Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.

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LHPSU
10 years ago

Cue comparison with Shohei Otani

Lunch AngleMember since 2016
10 years ago

Mike Petriello has an article on Giolito on mlb.com today, says that Statcast data from Giolito’s Futures Game appearance last year showed a seven foot extension on his release, a full foot more than the major league average. So that helps the fastball play up too.

Alice Cooper
10 years ago

Giolito may make the scouts drool, but Glasnow has put up better numbers at the same age relative to level.

I think the two are a lot closer than most pundits give them credit for.

LHPSU
10 years ago
Reply to  Alice Cooper

Glasnow’s K-rate is a tick higher than Giolito’s, but so is his BB-rate.

Trey Baughn
10 years ago

Giolito still reminds me a lot of G. Cole when he debuted in 2013 (7.7 K/9, 3.6 K/BB, 49% GB) though I think Cole had better command at the time. The point about being distracted by baserunners is a good one as Syndergaard might also profile similar to Giolito in both stuff and size, but leads the league in SB allowed (28).

Sleepy
10 years ago

Where can I wager on Dusty leaving him out there for 130+ pitches on Tuesday?

npantaleo
10 years ago

You said “I think Giolito will eventually have above-average control and average command.”
What’s the difference between control and command?

stretchfest
10 years ago
Reply to  npantaleo

Control is throwing strikes, command is putting it where you want it.

I’m pretty sure it’s that, it might be vice versa.

mrenick1974Member since 2018
10 years ago
Reply to  npantaleo

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-explained-the-20-80-scouting-scale/

this from Kiley McDaniel a couple of years ago explains quite a bit, including command vs control. Also, it contains links to his series in scouting the hit tool. They are all well done and definitely worth the read.

dansbys coxswain
10 years ago

I’m going rant a bit it and this will get down voted no doubt, but Alex Reyes is tall and has a downward plane, throws consistently in the high 90s and hits 101 regularly, has a nasty curve and a good change, and his strikeout numbers throughout his career blow Gio’s so far out of the water he’s in the dessert.

They’ve both had similar command issues this year, but Reyes strikes out significantly more than Gio does to overcome this.

Am I missing something that Gio is like unanimously the best pitching prospect in baseball?

And before someone calls me a raging Cardinals homer, I am actually a Braves fan hoping we can pull off a trade for this kid (Reyes) and steal him like we stole Dansby.

dansbys coxswain
10 years ago

I should also add that one of these guys has had TJ Surgery and the other hasn’t and the biggest predictor of future injuries is a history of past injuries. If Gio already has a TJ at 18, he’ll prob need another at like, what, 25?

Shirtless George Brett
10 years ago

I dont think thats really true at all actually. Just one of the many myths about TJ surgery. The list of MLB pitchers who have had TJ surgery is a mile long. The list of pitchers who have needed two is much much shorter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baseball_players_who_underwent_Tommy_John_surgery

There are 27 pitchers on that list who had TJS 5-10 years ago (2006-2010). Of those 27 only 4 (14%) have had to have another TJ surgery in the 5-10 years since.

And its worth noting that 2 of those 4 (Medlen and Nathan) actually were having their 3rd TJS. Which tends to suggest that its not so much the procedure as thier arms just arent cut out for pitching.

LHPSU
10 years ago

Oh, Joe Nathan’s arm was pretty cut out for pitching. It probably had more to do with the fact that 36 year-olds don’t recover so well from having their UCL replaced.

willl
10 years ago

Look beyond this year.

Reyes has consistently struggled with his command. He’s walked 4.72 per 9 IP, while Giolito has walked 3.13 per 9 IP. That’s a really big difference.

SenorGato
10 years ago

Shohei Otani says hi!

I haven’t been as high on Giolito as most but still believe he’ll be a high quality arm. I knock him for not being a high workload guy, but innings are less and less a requirement for SP hype these days. I don’t see a great delivery or command either, but I suspect he can still kick ass and take names over 160-180 inning workloads.

SenorGato
10 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

What’s so disagreeable about this? Lol f’n internet…

SteveM
10 years ago

Unless Noah Syndergaard is somehow no longer considered a “young arm”, then no, Giolito is definitely not “Earth’s Best Young Arm”. Syndergaard is better in each and every regard. Better velocity, better command, better control, better secondary pitches. It’s not really very close.

SenorGato
10 years ago
Reply to  SteveM

Abso-f’n-lutely