Should Kyler Murray Play Football or Baseball?
Among the comments Kiley McDaniel and I received from people in baseball regarding the updated draft board we published last week is that Oklahoma quarterback and center fielder Kyler Murray should have probably been on it. Evaluators see him as a crude but gifted speedster with good pop for his size who possesses more projection than most because of his athleticism. Murray is performing this year (.290/.390/.520 at publication) on the baseball field despite little prior in-game experience.
While I’ll consider his merits as an athlete more fully in a moment, it seems important to briefly recount Murray’s somewhat circuitous path to the present. A superstar high-school quarterback, Murray was expected to replace Johnny Manziel at Texas A&M as soon as he reached campus. At the same time, though, he was also a first-round shortstop prospect. He removed himself from MLB draft consideration by refusing to do some of the mandatory paperwork and testing for eligibility. He went to A&M, split QB reps there with Kyle Allen as a freshman, then transferred to Oklahoma, where sat out a year due to NCAA transfer rules. In 2017, he held a clipboard behind Heisman winner Baker Mayfield.
All the while, Murray barely played baseball (although he did spend last summer on the Cape). Now, he’s Oklahoma’s starting center fielder and also locked in another quarterback competition as a redshirt sophomore, juggling both sports at the same time.
Discussions about Murray invariably lead to which of those sport he should play professionally — and, as part of that, which path might be more lucrative for him. Because Murray is available for the MLB draft this June but not for the NFL’s own draft until next year, baseball has the opportunity to present its case first.
The size of his signing bonus obviously isn’t the only factor Murray is likely to consider. The prospect of a full year as a starter at a big football school — with the possibility of making a run at a Heisman — is probably appealing to him. The reality of football’s health risks — which, for a 5-foot-11 quarterback, might be even riskier — are also likely present.
That said, we can at least try to see if a clearly superior financial path lies ahead for Murray as he comes to a fork in the road this June. To do this, we have to know some things about each sport’s draft and then get some idea of where Murray might be drafted and how he would be compensated in each case.
And so, a crash course on the rookie compensation structure for each sport. I’m leaving out some details for the sake of brevity — for more exhaustive explanations of both (which I recommend), you should read this and this — but the following should be sufficient for our purposes, I think.
For the uninitiated (welcome to FanGraphs, Sooner football fans), each pick in baseball’s draft has an assigned bonus value and the combined bonus values of all a team’s picks comprise their allotted “bonus pool,” which they can fluidly allocate throughout their draft choices. So, an individual player’s bonus can deviate from the slot’s suggested amount, but a team’s draft class as a whole needs to fit within their allotted pool (there’s technically a small cushion for overage) or else they incur drastic penalties.
The NFL’s latest CBA implemented a hard-slotting system that essentially pre-determines the value of each player’s deal when he is drafted. Agents negotiate benefits on the margins in the form of offset language and other protections for their clients, but the most significant parts of the deal — the bonus amount and annual salary value of each rookie’s four-year contract (first-round picks also have a fifth-year team option) — are hard-slotted.
I’ve spoken with various amateur scouting personnel about where they think Murray falls in the talent continuum of this year’s MLB draft. Enthusiasts say anywhere in the late first round and comp round (which is probably influenced by knowledge that the comp round teams have those extra picks and a bonus pool that is more likely to provide room for Murray), while the low end is in the rounds three and four range. Teams fear it would take about $5 million to really convince Murray to just play baseball but would (on the high end) offer anywhere between $2-2.5 million to get him to do it.
It would also need to be a good fit. A team that selects Murray would have to like him as a prospect, have sufficient pool space to allocate a chunk of it to him, and perhaps allows Murray to play football in the fall. I think it’s reasonable that Murray could be drafted anywhere between the late first and early second rounds purely on talent — a range that realistically starts with Cleveland at No. 29 (Murray is young for a college prospect and Cleveland has several other picks) and ends somewhere around Pittsburgh’s second-rounder (they also have multiple picks) — and find an enthused suitor that also has money (let’s go with the suggested figure of $2.5 million) in that range.
Because football’s compensation structure lays out the value of the deal four years out, we should look at what baseball offers over that time span, too. Let’s say Murray reaches the big leagues in either his third or fourth full season. If he were to get there quicker than that, it likely means he’s very good and will have, by default, made the correct decision. So, hypothetically for Murray, that would mean $2.5 million to sign, $4,000 to play short-season ball the rest of the summer, around $8,400 and $9,600 the next two years in the minors while he has yet to be put on a 40-man roster, about $75,000 the following year when he’s put on the 40-man but still in the minors, and about $550,000 when he starts making the major-league minimum. That’s about $3.1-3.6 million over the next five years, give or take some nuance regarding how quickly he hits some of those more lucrative checkpoints.
Rookie NFL contracts signed by players drafted in the third and fourth rounds present a similar range of earnings over that time span. I’ve spoken with members of the media who cover the NFL draft and it’s less clear where Murray might go in the NFL draft because that draft is still a year away and because heuristics for long-term projections like this aren’t as prevalent in football as in baseball.
It seems reasonable to assume that Murray can’t possibly go higher than Louisville QB Lamar Jackson or fellow Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield go on Thursday. Players facing biases, like those two and Murray, need to perform, and even if Murray performs like Jackson and Mayfield — which is already asking a lot — he’s still smaller than both of them. Russell Wilson is the only quarterback as short as Murray (who isn’t as physically dense as Wilson) to be drafted at all since 2010. Most of the smallest QBs picked in a draft are 6-foot-2.
Wilson’s success and the success of Drew Brees (a second-rounder 17 years ago) and Case Keenum (undrafted) probably isn’t enough to break any barriers of perception for the entire population of quarterbacks. And if we assume progressive football front offices are the ones most likely to ignore these kinds of biases, then know that they’re also the ones looking at regression models that indicate size and career performance are among the most influential variables for quarterback success and note that Murray has neither. I think an optimistic projection for Murray’s NFL draft stock, barring a position change, is right around where Wilson went — so, somewhere in round three or four. That’s right at the break-even point of what it looks like he’ll make playing baseball. And keep in mind that’s if Murray beats out Austin Kendall and has a good fall.
Assuming the info I’ve collected is sound, there’s not really a clearly superior financial option for Murray. In fact, it’s excruciatingly close. If anything, it should cause us to ask what it means for baseball that it will only offer a top-30 to -50 talent in its amateur draft what the NFL is willing to offer a talent in its top-60 to -120 range.
I’ve inquired of teams and agents how the players’ side of the amateur market might react to a labor climate that looks like the one we saw this past offseason. I haven’t gotten consistent answers. It seems players have less incentive to go to college: college players debuting at age 23 or 24 won’t be eligible for free agency until 29 or 30 and, if this past offseason was an indicator, that’s too old to get paid. Alternatively, they might find other ways to make money up front — and perhaps athletes with alternatives will be less apt to choose baseball over other options than they have been in the past. If Kyler Murray doesn’t have a baseball career, perhaps he’ll still have a baseball legacy as someone who, at a time when baseball might be unknowingly at a crossroads, should have been given greater incentives to play the game.
Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.


Wow, 1st round possible and he ditched for football. At 5’11” and fast NFL teams will most likely try to convert him to a RB or a WR since the NFL has almost 0 love for short Qbs. Hope he’s listening to former qbs and goes with baseball. Especially since Favre looks like hell and Jim Mcmahon has gone on record wishing he’d have played baseball.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066734/article/jim-mcmahon-id-pick-baseball-over-football-if-i-could
I do think the short QB bias thing is waning in the NFL after the success of Brees and Wilson. Mayfield is likely a top 10 pick now and Jackson likely 1st round.
It’s not just height I’m worried about
– Bill Polian
Lamar Jackson is 6’3″
my bad, for some reason lumped him in, but my point stands.
Consensus on what constitutes a good profile changes quickly in all sports, often with very limited precedent. If it wasn’t for Jose Altuve, would Nick Madrigal be considered the kind of draft prospect he is?
Even when Murray was a 1st round shortstop prospect, he was still more highly regarded as a QB recruit, amazingly. He wasn’t Donovan Tate or Bubba Starling. I honestly can’t think of a more hyped football prospect with 1st round MLB projections since Joe Mauer (though there may be, I find football boring as all hell so I’m not always up to date).
And regarding Tate and Starling, my gut reaction is that Murray falls into the same category- severely overhyped baseball prospects who able to parlay their gridiron talents into increased prestige on the diamond. I hope I’m wrong but there’s definitely this culture of inferiority within baseball circles, where two-sport prospects turn into holy grails because some baseball people are terrified that they’re on the verge of losing a perceived culture war with other sports. Never bought into that, but it permeates almost everything related to baseball- media, scouting, and even the commissioner’s office.
I would also weigh the average length of a career in both sports. Yes, starting qbs tend to have a longer career on average than other NFL positions. Baseball players on average have a longer career by 2.3 years. Which can be a lot of earning potential. But, when you compare what each sport does to you if you make it 20 years. I’d rather be Jeter than Favre.
The problem with just saying that “good profile changes quickly” is that are real reasons why we’d expect to see more successful NFL quarterbacks follow the prototype of tall, strong-armed 6’3″ or 6″4″ quarterbacks. They can see over the offensive line better, they have fewer passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage, and they tend to be able to throw the ball harder and farther. Those aren’t guarantees of success, and there are some successful QB’s who don’t fit that profile as noted in this article.
Overall, though, there are a lot of analogies to baseball pitchers. Some pitchers are successful without being as tall as typical (Pedro Martinez at 5″11″, for example), but it’s extraordinarily unlikely that we’re going to see the total number of sub-6 foot tall major league pitchers equal the total number of pitchers 6’3″ or over. These aren’t guarantees or total disqualifiers for individual players, but they do correlate with success.
It’s not. Kyler Murray has no realistic future as an NFL quarterback, not just because of the height but that certainly hurts. I have no problem at all with a guy pursuing the sport he is more passionate about, I just hope he went into it knowing that he wasn’t likely to have a lucrative career in the NFL.
This guy fits into the “bad makeup” category.
A good rule of thumb: If you want to win baseball games, it’s a good idea to draft baseball players.
Frank Thomas and his Auburn football scholarship sure proved that truism.
Don’t forget Tony Gwynn and his SDSU basketball scholarship.
Bet the Padres wish they could have that one back!
Man, that Jeff Sama#%&$ guy washed out quickly
‘420Smash’ dishing out judgements on ‘makeup.’ Okay.
You’d think it’s 4/20 or something, with the hilarity of that comment.
Downvote manipulation happening here, right?
Either that, or a massive outbreak of red/green colorblindess 😉
Well, if he wants to lower his risk of contracting CTE or other various head/brain ailments, baseball is kind of a no (yes?)-brainer.
Obviously though, he should choose the sport he judges that he’s got the greater chance to succeed in.
Or, possibly, the one he actually enjoys more, if there is a significant difference.
When was the last time a mediocre college quarterback drafted because he “looked the part” amounted to anything?
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-ryan-1.html
Matt Ryan’s stats in college were decidedly average.
I don’t know…he certainly broke out as a pro, but he put up big numbers in his senior year. IIRC BC didn’t exactly run an explosive passing offense.
Yeah, Tom O’Brien was a good coach…but not exactly a QB whisperer, haha.
I was going to answer this question, but I was pretty sure nothing was going to be good enough.
If you won’t accept Ryan’s senior year stats as “mediocre”, then there simply aren’t QB’s with mediocre stats being drafted in the first several rounds of the NFL draft. Ryan’s senior year: 59.3% completion percentage, 6.9 yards per attempt, 31:19 TD to interception ratio. Those are all pretty mediocre stats by the standards of college QB’s under consideration as NFL draft picks.
If your intent is to disparage the college stats of someone like Blaine Gabbert, who ended up a bust, he was in the same ballpark as Matt Ryan on all those stats. And it’s particularly notable with Ryan that his completion percentage, YPA, and TD to INT ratio have all been better for his pro career than they were in college (or even just looking at his senior year in college).
“If anything, it should cause us to ask what it means for baseball that it will only offer a top-30 to -50 talent in its amateur draft what the NFL is willing to offer a talent in its top-60 to -120 range.”
It’s higher risk, higher reward for baseball players. Without looking, I’d guess that a higher percentage of players drafted in the NFL go on to spend significant time on an NFL team’s roster (and more immediately) than players drafted in the first seven rounds of the MLB Rule 4 draft.
That said—even regardless of signing bonuses—if a baseball player becomes even a solid role player, one good enough to stick in MLB after a few years of slaving away in the minors, the benefits are probably much greater: more potential for fully guaranteed contracts, longer career, far less wear-and-tear to the body, and, if he’s better than average, potential at a lot more money long term. That potential reward is part of what accounts for that gap in top prospect compensation between the leagues.
Another part of that difference is that MLB also relies on international signings, entirely separate from the Rule 4 Draft, to provide an influx of young talent into the league. As we know, sometimes teams spend big money to sign these prospects. The “top-30 to -50 talent” that you’re talking about—and the amount of money that is spent to sign them—expands when you include the top international signings every year.
” international signings…… sometimes teams spend big money to sign these prospects”
Not anymore.
Even with the recently instituted amateur IFA pools, the top amateur IFA’s are signing for $3+ million bonuses: https://www.mlb.com/news/top-international-prospects-sign-on-july-2/c-239881502
“While I’ll consider his merits as an athlete more fully in a moment, it seems important to briefly recount Murray’s somewhat circuitous path to the present. A superstar high-school quarterback, Murray was expected to replace Johnny Manziel at Texas A&M as soon as he reached campus. At the same time, though, he was also a first-round shortstop prospect.”
Meaning if he would’ve went pro after high school he could have been 3 1/2 years into the minors and possibly knocking on the door of the MLB all while banking the signing bonus. TVM included with those 3 1/2 years to possibly progress through the minors it’s hard to fathom why he would stick out 3 years in college to get drafted when he could’ve already been playing and getting paid. MLB truly does have a higher risk no denying that. But, with the potential to possibly be in the MLB before his first eligible NFL draft it just doesn’t seem that hard to me.
Best of luck to this gifted young man, whatever his career path. Filing paperwork for the baseball draft would’ve been a clearer baseball financial edge coming out of high school (assuming lower round one selection.) The fact he didn’t file for the draft at that point indicates where his heart was at 17. Being in the majors this year would have made him a kid who developed standard deviations above U.S. kid normal minor league development. I’m also skeptical of scouts draft “projections” on multi sport kids. They’re competing and tend to be in sport recruitment mode.
The thing is, that “third or fourth round projection” is the best case scenario, and it is an enormous long shot for the 2019 draft. Guys with 2-3 years of starting in college come into the NFL raw. Very few quarterbacks are drafted with such a small amount of college experience (cf. Cam Newton, but he was 6’5″, built like a train, and won the Heisman and NC). Throw in that he is 5’11” (or 5’10”) and we don’t even know how he’ll play in college (he was bad at A&M). I think he should use football as leverage to get a bit more money, but if he’s thinking with his head instead of his heart, there is no way he should be playing football this fall.
Four-year starters are unicorns, especially since the best QBs enter the draft as juniors…
Carson Wentz: 1.5 (lost half of his senior season)
Tom Brady: 2
Alex Smith: 2
Blake Bortles: 2
Josh McCown: 2
Jameis Winston: 2
Cam Newton: 1
Joe Flacco: 2
Mitchell Trubisky: 1
I don’t see how this partial list of quarterbacks that are mostly within the range that I said (2-3) works in any way against my point? Most quarterbacks have 2-3 years as starters in college and the vast majority of those are still raw as quarterbacks when measured up to NFL standards. Maybe you misconstrued my point as though there were some significant other set of quarterbacks that were 4 year starters and not raw by NFL standards. I would have originally said “Guys with 2-4 years of starting in college come into the NFL raw” but I didn’t because, as you say, four years starters are very rare.
Because the following statement is just not true:
“Guys with 2-3 years of starting in college come into the NFL raw. Very few quarterbacks are drafted with such a small amount of college experience”
Think this was two separate statements. (1) Saying even the college QBs with more experience (203 years starting) come into the NFL very raw and (2) QBs with less than that 2-3 years (as Murray would if drafted in 2019) are very rare, with Cam Newton listed as an exception
Yes, citing Newton as the exception should have made that clear. Also, if something read one way makes no sense and read another way does make sense, it is best to read it the second way.
The issue for Murray, building on TKDC’s point, is that QB’s drafted by the NFL tend to have at least one of two traits. They have the physical tools (height, arm strength) that NFL teams value in their view of the ideal QB and/or a track record of several years of high-level success in college. Even in a best case scenario, Murray won’t have either.
Russell Wilson, for example, is listed at only 5’11” but had three and a half years of success as a starting college QB. Drew Brees, going back farther, is listed at only 6’0″ but had three years of success as a starter at Purdue.
The players on LHPSU’s list are a bunch of 6’3″ and taller players who much better the fit the archetype of a big, strong-armed QB.
I think a note on the payment structure is that, while the payment for a baseball player in the top 30-50 is about what a football player would make in the top 60-120, the guarantees are different. There’s significant value in being guaranteed that 2.5 million up front, which isn’t the case in football. Most football contracts aren’t guaranteed, whereas the baseball signing bonus is.
“$2.5 million to sign”
This seems to me the beginning and end of the conversation. That much money pays for a lot of sandwiches, and you don’t end up with a broken body and mind to boot. I’ve never understood the urge to maximize earnings when we are talking degrees of millions…
The difference between $2.5 Million and $3.5 Million?
An astounding ONE MILLION DOLLARS (paraphrasing Dave Chappelle)
I don’t care how rich you are, 100K, 500K, 1M (or more) are worth pursuing. Especially when your career/job has a shelf life measured in years and not decades.
$2.5 million guaranteed now vs $3.5 million (possible). The prorated amount of $3.5 isn’t guaranteed after the first year for picks in this range. He could flop out after a season and only be left with 1/4 of that.
Cool article here: https://www.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/16/nfl-rookie-contracts-fine-print
I mean, be snarky if you want, but please don’t pretend there’s no difference between money in your pocket and money you might be able to receive if you survive a laundry list of ‘ifs’
Yeah, it’s a difference of one million dollars, but stated another way it’s upgrading from owning a nice house to owning a very nice house. Going from $50,000 to $2.5 million is the difference between renting an apartment and owning a nice house. If you’re guaranteed $2.5 million and have a chance at 3.5 million sure, you take it. If you are risking the former for the chance at the latter you better make sure it’s a good gamble. You know the old saying, 2.5 millions birds in the hand are better than 3.5 million birds in the bush.
I mean, Elvis Andrus signed an 8 year $120M contract extension. Last year Case Keenum, went 11-3 took his team to the NFC championship game had a TD/INT ratio of 22/7 and in free agency got 2 years and $36M. I think baseball’s incentives are pretty evident and markedly better than football’s.
Elvis Andrus was an above average starting shortstop for a contending team when he was 20. Kyler Murray is 20, and is striking out 25% of the time in college.
Unless he’s a total idiot (I’ve never met the guy), the decision is about financial security in the near future and long-term health. He can’t be thinking about triple digit contracts. He’s so raw right now, that even if he chooses baseball full-time and it works out for him, he probably won’t make the major leagues until he’s 24 or 25. It’s almost impossible to seriously cash in when your team control period takes you into your 30s unless you become a legitimate star like Blackmon or Cain.
So “almost impossible’, huh? This is essentially saying that MOST all college baseball players can never get a good free agent contract.
This happens, every-single season. There is a pretty big discrepancy between “impossible” and “happens every year”
I see some parallels, in skills and situation, to Dee Gordon here. He started playing baseball late.
I agree with your overall points. That he should make the decision on financial security as a huge factor, but its also about the best opportunity.
I think baseball clearly has that: He has talent, and will be given a full chance over a number of years, to develop it. In football, they are like “you suck, cut!”
The college guys who get big contract are super polished guys who who through the minors in two years. He is so raw that he probably will take much longer.
Here’s an analysis from a few years back showing that the average pre-free agency WAR (so first 6 to 6+ years of MLB career) is 2.5 to 3.0 WAR for baseball players picked in the late first round or early second round. And that’s an average – not a median – so it’s being pulled up some by the fairly small percentage of those players who turn into useful regulars and put up 10+ WAR during the first 6 years in the majors.
So, yes, even most players picked at that point in the MLB draft will never come close to sniffing a big free agent contract.
If you know you have a 100% chance of having a multi-year MLB career, yes, you take MLB over NFL every time. But even for good prospects, the odds of that aren’t terribly high
But only if you slaved 3-5 years in the minors and another 3-4 in the majors. That is almost a decade.
Sure if you are a 10 year mlb veteran on a guaranteed contract life is great but most never get there. If he chooses baseball it is very likely that the signing bonus is the only money he ever makes in baseball. However he doesn’t seem to be that good in football either or he would have gotten a starter job.
Guaranteed $2.5 M signing bonus paid out today is worth WAAAAY more than the potential to earn somewhere close to or slightly more than that over the next 5-seasons in the NFL where nothing is guaranteed. You could get injured, cut, or just flame out at any point. And that’s not even saying anything about the time-value of money.
Sure, the NFL may be flashier and have bigger spotlight on their draft than the MLB, but it is a much smarter decision to play baseball in the long-term. But who knows, maybe the kid just loves playing football…not all decisions are based purely on money.
NFL bonuses have been guaranteed for quite awhile, and as of 2016 and on I believe that drafted players have an injury guarantee also for football related injuries and some number of years (depending on draft position).
So if he avoids getting injured in college and plays well enough to be taken in the NFL draft, then the NFL signing bonus will come, and a fair amount of the NFL pay will be paid unless he has a non-football injury or is dropped without a football related injury.
That said, I like my knees. If I were athletic enough to have had the choice, it’s baseball all the way.
Just searched it up and only 1st round NLF contracts are guaranteed for 4-years…most 2nd round draft picks usually get 2 years guaranteed, and after that only the signing bonus is guaranteed. (source, Sports Illustrated: https://www.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/16/nfl-rookie-contracts-fine-print)
So, unless Murray can get into the 1st or early second rounds of the NFL draft he has to hope for sustained health for at least the next 3 seasons to even sniff the $2.5 MLB signing bonus.
If Murray does end up a 3rd or 4th round QB pick, he actually probably has a decent chance of sticking in the NFL for at least a few years. Those tend to be guys who are seen as developmental players initially put on the roster as a third QB behind a starting QB and a veteran backup. They’ll sometimes play in the even of injuries, but they actually have a decent shot to stick in the league for at least a few seasons because they don’t play enough to get injured (or flame out by demonstrating that they’re really bad in games), have low salary cap numbers, and usually carry at least the hint of upside.
Echoing a point from TKDC above, I think that Murray’s real problem is that he runs a really big risk of not being drafted and not making an NFL team at all. He’s got two issues there: he hasn’t yet started in college (so he’ll be a 1-year starter at best, and who knows what his performance will be) and he’s seen as undersized for an NFL QB. The NFL QB’s who get drafted despite a short resume as a college starter tend to be players who fit the prototypical big, strong-armed QB archetype of guys who are 6’3″ or 6’4″, because teams like the physical tools even with the lack of a big college track record.
“Guaranteed $2.5 M signing bonus paid out today is worth WAAAAY more than the potential to earn somewhere close to or slightly more than that over the next 5-seasons in the NFL where nothing is guaranteed”
Wrong. Or right. A blanket statement like that is wrong, but it can be right depending on the personal values of the individual (in more technical terms, the expected value of his career over the years combined with his risk aversion and discount rate of investment).
For the life of me I can’t understand why anyone is still playing football. It’s not worth it. You’ve got one brain. Who wants to spend retirement with headaches, blurry vision, seizures and profound memory loss? Especially if that retirement begins in your thirties. Not.worth.it.
You’re a young man from an extremely impoverished family whose a great athlete but doesn’t quite have the hand-eye coordination to shoot a basketball or hit a baseball. You’re fast, strong, big and have the chance to change your family’s fortunes for generations (if you’re smart about it) by paying with your health down the line. How dont you do it? (ignoring the potential reasons for having such a large base of impoverished people to choose from in the first place)
Well, part of it is that far from every former NFL player has symptoms like that. There’s pretty clearly higher risk than for the general public, but it’s really not clear that even close to the majority of former NFL players have those sorts of symptoms.
Also, expanding on DBall’s point, some people have skills much better suited for football than for baseball or basketball. Echoing that, there are body types (think offensive linemen or interior defensive linemen) that are much better suited for football than for baseball or basketball. And football rosters are much larger than baseball or basketball rosters both in college (if the end goal is to use the sport to get a full-ride scholarship) and the pros.
He should probably do what he enjoys more.
It would be difficult but fascinating to do this analysis with a distribution of expected incomes. Despite the fact that he may be at a break-even expected value of contract for either sport, there may be different distributions of expected income within each sport.
Essentially, his high may be higher in baseball, and low lower in football. Might have limited upside in one versus the other, given his skills.
He’s a 5’11 run-first QB. Unless he’s extraordinarily special., he’s not getting drafted in the NFL
I would obviously choose baseball but if you are really a super athlete I actually think football is the safer choice. There are just so many ways to fail in baseball especially in hitting. Just look at franchy cordero. Athletically he basically is Mike trout or Willie Mays (huge pdower, super fast) but he strikes out like 40% and probably won’t ever be even an average player.
In football a lot can happen too but it is easier to use your athleticsm, if you stay healthy (big leg of course) there is less that can go wrong.
However in his case it seems like he isn’t really good at football if he had to transfer twice to get playing time. Probably has more of a chance in baseball.
It would be interesting to create an expected value for each sport incorporating the historical % chance that someone picked in that area of the draft makes the big leagues. Success is not guaranteed, and combining that with expected career earnings would be interesting.
Something like EV = (guaranteed salary)+(% chance making to Y2)*(Salary Y2)+(% chance marking to Y3)*(Salary Y3)….
will a team really pay 2.5M for a talented but still raw college player? Realistically he probably will probably take 4-5 years in the minors for refinement. Sure, he could be a lorenzo cain like late bloomer and then the money definitely be worth it but until then there is a long way to go.
the swing is not terrible but does need some work, so it should be a team which trusts his hitting developement
“…what it means for baseball that it will only offer a top-30 to -50 talent in its amateur draft what the NFL is willing to offer a talent in its top-60 to -120 range.”
The NFL Draft is choosing from players who have already completed the sport’s equivalent of the minor leagues. What would the MLB draft look like if, instead of drafting players who still needed years of development, they were choosing players who had established a performance record at AA?