So What Do the Mets Do Now?
The Mets were supposed to be good. Heading into the season, we projected them for 87 wins, a bit behind the NL’s elite trio, but solidly among the top teams that were expected to contend for a playoff spot. With Yoenis Cespedes back in the fold and a strong pitching staff led by a dynamite rotation, expectations were high.
Then, everyone got hurt. Seth Lugo and Steven Matz couldn’t make it out of spring training, thinning the team’s expected rotation depth. Lucas Duda and Wilmer Flores went down at the same time in April, leaving the team without a real infield. Cespedes got hurt a week later, then Noah Syndergaard’s arm started hurting a few days after that. Travis d’Arnaud injured his wrist in the first week of May. Jeurys Familia developed a blod clot not long after. Asdrubal Cabrera hurt his thumb.
Even the guys who aren’t officially hurt might not be healthy. Matt Harvey‘s stuff has backed up to the point that he doesn’t really miss bats anymore, and now looks like a back-end starter. Robert Gsellman’s spin rates have nosedived, and his effectiveness has gone with it. Jose Reyes isn’t hurt, but given his 53 wRC+ and below-average defense at third base, the team would be better if he were.
So now, as we head into the second weekend of June, the Mets are 25-32, and they’re already 12 games behind the Nationals in the NL East. And it’s not like they’ve played any better than their record; their BaseRuns expected .438 winning percentage is sixth-worst in baseball. There’s help on the way, with Matz, Lugo, and Cespedes all out on rehab assignments, but at this point, the damage might be done.
The top four teams in the NL all have at least 36 wins, and that doesn’t include the Cubs, who are likely to go on a run and recapture their place at the top of the NL Central before the year is out. The Mets are 9.5 games behind the Diamondbacks, who project as the likely second Wild Card right now. Sure, Arizona isn’t as good as they’ve played, but it’s unlikely that all of the surprise contenders (Colorado and Milwaukee, as well) collapse down the stretch, meaning there are legitimate roadblocks to a playoff spot even beyond the NL’s big three. They aren’t so far out of the race that they should punt in June, but given where they are now and the roster they’ve constructed, it’s time to at least start thinking about being sellers in July.
As currently constructed, this team has a lot of impending free agents. Neil Walker is playing out this year after accepting a Qualifying Offer, but the new CBA rules mean he can’t be offered another one, so if the Mets don’t think they’re going to re-sign him, a trade is the only way to get anything for letting him leave. Jay Bruce, Curtis Granderson, Addison Reed, and Duda all hit free agency this winter, as well, so the team has four everyday guys — plus Jose Reyes, but who knows why he’s an everyday guy, as replacing him will be an upgrade — and their best reliever all in their walk years.
If you’re not sure you’re going to compete down the stretch, keeping that many guys who could be useful trade chips is not a good use of organizational assets. And barring a big surge when Cespedes gets back, I’m not sure I see this roster playing well enough over the next six weeks to convince Sandy Alderson that this is a group he should keep together. The Blue Jays were in a similar position back in April and have somewhat dug themselves out of the hole, so there’s certainly a chance the Mets could play themselves back into buyer status, but right now, the 2017 Mets don’t look like a team that should be prioritizing the present.
In Bruce, Duda, and Reed the team has three decent chips it shouldn’t have too hard of a time moving for mid-tier prospects. None of them are the kinds of elite players that will bring back a ransom, but each has enough of a track record and are having strong enough seasons that moving them for some live-arm with command problems or a lower-upside utility guy who could help in 2018 shouldn’t be too difficult.
Walker is a little trickier, even though he’s probably the best player of the bunch. The list of contenders looking for a second baseman is thin, with the Blue Jays (depending on Devon Travis’s health) potentially being the most likely buyer, but as mentioned, they’re not entirely out of their early-season hole, and another slump could convince them not to add for 2017, either. If the Jays aren’t buying — or if they opt for someone like Jed Lowrie instead — then it’s not clear what the market for Walker would be. Maybe Boston would see him as a potential third baseman when they decide to pull the plug on the Pablo Sandoval experiment? This isn’t a great summer to be selling a second baseman.
But if they can get something decent for each of their impending free agents, adding some depth to a farm system that could use some close-to-the-majors types, retooling for 2018 shouldn’t be that difficult. Ideally, they’d pick up a reliever or two in return who could slot into next year’s bullpen, saving them from having to pay the escalating market rates for bullpen upgrades this winter. That would leave a good amount of money to spend to fill the holes in the lineup.
With Cespedes and Michael Conforto, the team is set in the corner-outfield spots, and Juan Lagares is good enough to at least platoon in center field, so the team doesn’t need to spend big on one more outfielder to round out that group. And with Amed Rosario likely taking over at shortstop, Asdrubal Cabrera can shift over to second base to replace Walker, leaving the team with a lot of cash to find a couple of new corner infielders. The Mets probably can’t count on David Wright ever playing again, so finding a full-time third baseman would be priority #1, though first base shouldn’t be far behind, given that Dom Smith is running a .156 ISO in one of the most hitter-friendly parks in the PCL.
Add a couple of useful corner infielders, some depth behind the starters, break in Rosario at short, and the 2018 Mets’ position players could be substantially better than what they’ve put out there this year. And barring a plague sweeping through Queens, it’s almost impossible to imagine their rotation not being healthier next year; just getting Syndergaard back for a full season would be worth several wins in and of itself.
Despite a rough 2017 season to date, the Mets’ window isn’t closing yet, and 2018 looks like it could be a nice rebound year. But the organization may very well be best off trying to build that roster this summer, using their trade chips to try and add some cheap depth that they’ve sorely missed this year. A second-half comeback isn’t completely out of the picture, but given the sizable deficit they’re facing, I’d probably suggest the Mets start planning for next year as soon as the draft is over.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
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This has become the narrative in the blogosphere. Let’s just hope none of the current starters requires another surgery. Also, anybody else worried about Cespedes?
If it involves a Met and their health, it’s guaranteed to be a concern.
Sign Duda, trade everyone else.
Or trade Duda, and then re-sign him in the offseason!
Or trade Duda, Walker and Reed, then resign them all! Plus Mike Moustakas and Lorenzo Cain. Sigh, to imagine a world without the Wilpons.
I always like this scenario in theory and it never seems to happen in practice.
I’m all for pulling the trigger on trades for any of these guys that bring back useful pieces but I think that’s easier said than done. They couldn’t give Bruce away over the winter and while he’s played a bit better, he’s still merely egh. Walker is decent but a positional problem with no cost control. Duda can hit and should be interesting but his injury history won’t help. Reed is an above average relief pitcher but not a shut down type and a rental. I just don’t see what they are getting for any of them. I’m sure it’s not nothing but even getting lotto tixx prospects or useful pen arms might be tough. Reinforcements are arriving this weekend and Rosario is coming within the week. Rosario at SS improves both SS and 3B immediately and the 2 arms help a beleaguered staff. And the Yo return is probably the biggest of all. Give it the full ~55 days until the deadline and see where you stand. Then you most likely punt.
Rosario is coming within the week? Did I miss the news?
If the Mets couldn’t give Bruce away this winter, why would anyone give them anything of value for him in July? Are teams really that reactionary to four months of data vs nearly a decade of data? I feel like it would make sense that if Bruce had no market in the winter, the Mets wouldn’t be getting anything decent in July.
Bruce is on pace for a 3 WAR season. Trying to sell someone in at the deadline is a lot different than the off-season. Things happen during the season to teams in contention – injuries, underperformance – that open up a market for a player like Bruce that is playing well.
Even if Bruce is playing well–a really, really big “if”–do you think the Mets would still be able to trade him? I just don’t think Alderson have a good sense of how much other teams value their assets.
Yes. Of course.
But ‘literally no one wants him’ to ‘a decent piece getting mid-tier prospects’ is a pretty giant leap in value. Especially given Bruce’s streakiness (documented for a decade), what happened after July last year, etc. This is not a guy people should be looking at three months of data for and extrapolating forward.
And I’d think any front office presiding over a contender would be aware of that.
You seem to think that Alderson won’t be raising the price. If he’s insisting on the same prospects he did over the winter, he can trade Bruce. If he’s raising the price while still insisting the other team pay the rest of the money, then I don’t have any confidence he can get to a deal.
He’s playing better and burning millions of dollars off of his contract. Over the winter he was a $13M question mark. By the time he’s traded, he’ll be a $6M solid upgrade to someone’s OF corner. He’s not going to get you a top prospect, but a 2nd-tier guy with upside isn’t out of the question.
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Not sure if this is due to the recent page redesigns or if this has been a problem before, but it seems that many of the apostrophes after linked player names are “smart apostrophes” – they are flipped upside down as if they are being used to start a quotation. This doesn’t seem to happen when a player’s name is used a second time in a piece, when it is not linked.
The fact that the Mets aren’t dead last in their division right now is a good enough sign for me that I wouldn’t be waving the white flag quite yet. Yes, if you’re not going to contend sell off Duda/Granderson/Walker/Reed but if they’re doing this well when everyone’s hurt then they could still make a run.
Of course, if the Jay Bruce trades over the winter are any indication then Mets fans shouldn’t get excited about a sell-off. Insisting on a real prospect back *and* not paying for any salary is a pretty tough sell.
“The fact the Mets aren’t dead last in their division is a good enough sign for me that I wouldn’t be waving the white flag”
The Mets are in the N.L. Least.
Isn’t it a little early to be closing the book on Smith? Yes, it’s the PCL, but he hasn’t yet finished half a season there and he only turns 22 next week.
I’d feel better about the Cubs going on a run if they added a couple of starting pitchers. (sorry, I know this is a Mets article)
The Cubs need Addison Russell to hit the baseball instead of his girlfriend.
It’s the lineup, not the pitching.
I take back my apology…
I don’t understand why you got downvoted so hard.
I’m not very popular in these parts, am I?
Probably downvoted since your comment has nothing to do with this article.
I think the single biggest missing piece for the Mets is defense. The team features subpar defenders at nearly every position except maybe the outfield corners, and is certainly poor up the middle (unless backups Lagares and/or Rivera are starting, but will hopefully change when Rosario is called up). So many innings get extended by poor defense, causing a ripple effect on the starters and the bullpen. It’s said that defense wins championships, and while that might not be true in baseball, it certainly can lose them (**cough**2015 World Series**cough**).
especially hurts because Syndergaard is out, DeGrom hasn’t been the every start K machine that we were expecting, Harvey…well. and the rest of the rotation is trending more contact heavy. For the starting 5 we have right now, we definitely need better defense all around the infield.
Exactly. When the pitching is at full strength, they can get enough Ks to escape with bad defense. But the side effect of that is high pitch counts, which has been a problem for Syndergaard and deGrom, who each averaged about 16 pitches per inning last season, which makes it hearder for them to get deep in games and leads to increased bullpen usage.
Mets really don’t do selling unfortunately. But in any case there is probably a run coming up that gets them closer to the WC pace and a corresponding DBs fade. You know that franchise would prefer to play meaningful games late in the season than in front of an empty house.
This article names a bunch of moves that look obvious and reasonable to everyone except the Mets FO themselves. I mean why on earth is Rosario not already here? Why is Reyes still starting?
This team is neither doing the correct things to contend this year, nor doing the correct things to retool for next year.
I am in complete agreement with this comment.
Concur! Peralta was just DFAd for hitting about the same as Reyes, who for some reason was actually starting until Flores got hot.
Vote Moustakas/Cain for the Mets 2018!
Watch the Mets sign Moustakas and Cain, only for Collins to move Moustakas to right field to (1) make space for Reyes and (2) put Conforto back on the bench.
Lol…well, who said anything about Collins coming back in 2018? He’s not under contract..definitely a time to ease him out to pasture with everyone saving face.
You know the Mets gonna Met and trade for a corner outfielder that can’t play center. Ryan Braun anybody??
Makes too much money. I’m thinking more like Duvall or Avi Garcia.
Assuming the Mets are even willing or able to offer anything the Brewers will take, Braun will 10/5 his way out of a deal to NYM.
Braun’s pretty clear: He’ll go to Los Angeles and maybe the rest of California or Miami. That’s it. Which is why–unless the Dodgers suddenly stop hitting lefties again–he’s probably going to be in Milwaukee through this season.
“Ideally, they’d pick up a reliever or two in return who could slot into next year’s bullpen.”
I cannot remember a “selling” team trading for a bullpen piece. That’s usually what “buying” teams do…if they are prospect arms then no telling if they will make it out of spring training next year.
Can anyone help me remember a “selling” team trading for an elite bullpen arm? I’m sure there are many…
I don’t think he meant an “elite bullpen arm.” Think more like a AAA reliever or starter that is a team’s #8 arm. Like the equivlant of Paul Sewald. You get a couple of those guys, and it can save you $4 to $6 million the next year. Like, for example, by skipping out on signing Fernando Salas. I don’t think it would preclude the possibility of the Mets signing an elite reliever… but as things stand now they might need 2 or 3 guys for next year.
Ok thanks for the clarification. However I wouldn’t trade any of the guys talked about in this article for what you proposed. What would any team trade of value for a Paul Sewald type?
Pittsburgh sold a reliever for a reliever. If the Mets expect to contend next year, getting a reliever with control makes sense.
This was exactly what I was going to say–the Melancon-Rivero trade is a great example of this (and, although it was panned at the time, has turned into a nice move for Pittsburgh)
How about a three team trade where we give up Reed and a prospect, get Brad Hand. And other team fills in prospects to the Padres, along with the one we hand over?
In 90% of cases the team giving up the prospects would rather have Brad Hand.
“And barring a plague sweeping through Queens, it’s almost impossible to imagine their rotation not being healthier next year”
…see the thing is we said that last year. So really, it’s “barring another plague sweeping through Queens…”
To use and paraphrase a quote of one my favorite movies: “Sell! Sell! Damned it Wilpons sell!”
Any thoughts on dealing deGrom? I know he has like 3 more years of team control but he’s already 29 this summer and would be the best starter available by far; a rotation led by Thor and matz next year would still be very formidable.
I think this team needs to say to hell with Reyes and give TJ Rivera 300 AB the rest of the way.
Yeah, yeah – non-prospect UDFA who is probably topping out as a bat-first utility guy. These types have turned into solid starters for a few years before, though. Figuring out what he is can help clarify off-season plans. I mean, all the guy has done is hit his entire career. If he can be Ryan Theriot for three years, that’s a huge improvement and relief as far as concentrating resources on other holes.
The Mets’ plight is a great example of the value of position players. Can’t believe the state this team is in when looking back a year or two ago regarding their starting pitching. It’s a shame we may never see that starting rotation healthy at the same time.
Their position players haven’t been exactly healthy.
I don’t understand this one bit. The only reference to Wilmer Flores is that he was hurt in April. It’s not April. He’s 25 years old. He is currently batting .333 with a .519 slugging %. Doesn’t walk enough and, arguably, K’s too much. But…hello?
So, when I read this page, I get a Victoria Secret ad on the right side. Very distracting, in more ways than one. I wonder with the seemingly large percentage of viewers of this site being males, how many of them actually buy gifts for their SOs from VS? As much as I’d like to, I can see the downsides…