Surprise: Trea Turner Is Still Really Good at Baseball

Trea Turner
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When the Phillies signed Trea Turner to an 11-year, $300 million contract over the winter, the second-largest contract in franchise history, they were probably prepared for Year 11 to be a bit underwhelming, not so much Year One. Turner got off to an excellent start in Philadelphia, beginning the season with 12 hits in the first seven games with two triples. Once his seven-game hitting streak was snapped, the next four months turned into an unbelievable slog: .225/.282/.354 with 10 homers. On the morning of August 5, his OPS hit a season-low .656. But over the last month, Turner has been one of the hottest hitters in baseball.

During the hottest months of the summer, one of the most common questions I got was some variant of “is Trea Turner broken?” My usual answer was that he’d probably be fine, even if expectations had to be lowered a bit, but it felt a little less convincing. The zStats I ran for hitters in early August as part of the “full-fat” ZiPS saw Turner as having a better season than was reflected in his overall numbers, with a .728 zOPS compared to that .656 mark. That wasn’t enough to make the leaderboard, headed by Spencer Torkelson (with a .975 OPS since then), but it was still a significant gap. And I doubt the Phillies or the fans would have felt much relief even with the .264/.309/.419 line that zStats gave him.

Back then, I re-ran Turner’s long-term projections to see what kind of bounceback ZiPS was expecting. While the computer saw a pretty good recovery in 2024, it was well off his preseason numbers. There was also a lot more risk in the mix, significantly pushing his numbers in future years down.

ZiPS Projection – Trea Turner (8/5)
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB OPS+ DR WAR
2024 .282 .335 .454 606 96 171 33 4 21 77 46 26 114 3 4.9
2025 .278 .332 .445 575 89 160 31 4 19 71 44 22 111 2 4.3
2026 .270 .323 .421 541 80 146 28 3 16 64 41 18 102 1 3.2
2027 .264 .318 .410 500 72 132 25 3 14 57 38 15 98 0 2.5
2028 .257 .312 .394 452 63 116 22 2 12 49 34 12 92 -1 1.9
2029 .250 .305 .376 396 52 99 19 2 9 41 30 9 85 -1 1.2
2030 .250 .305 .373 332 43 83 16 2 7 33 25 7 85 -2 0.8
2031 .243 .298 .354 263 33 64 12 1 5 26 19 5 78 -2 0.3
2032 .244 .296 .357 213 25 52 10 1 4 20 15 3 78 -3 0.2
2033 .243 .297 .346 136 16 33 6 1 2 12 10 2 76 -2 0.1
2034 .215 .262 .291 79 8 17 3 0 1 7 5 1 52 -1 -0.2

But from that low point, Turner has been absolutely smoking. Over the last calendar month, he’s fourth in the league in WAR and is the WAR leader among shortstops.

Top Position Players by WAR, 8/5 to 9/5
Player G PA HR SB BA OBP SLG wRC+ WAR
Julio Rodríguez 24 118 9 10 .423 .458 .775 238 2.6
Mookie Betts 28 124 9 2 .427 .492 .745 235 2.5
Jose Altuve 28 130 8 5 .374 .446 .661 204 2.2
Trea Turner 27 120 12 4 .366 .400 .786 212 2.2
Marcell Ozuna 30 125 10 0 .378 .448 .748 217 1.9
Alex Bregman 29 138 4 0 .350 .449 .556 181 1.8
Kerry Carpenter 29 119 9 3 .370 .429 .685 202 1.7
Corey Seager 26 122 11 1 .336 .402 .701 186 1.7
Seiya Suzuki 26 104 7 0 .358 .404 .726 199 1.6
Teoscar Hernández 28 120 9 1 .360 .392 .676 191 1.5
Ke’Bryan Hayes 27 120 7 0 .315 .367 .595 154 1.5
Bobby Witt Jr. 27 121 8 7 .292 .339 .575 140 1.4
Kyle Schwarber 27 126 13 0 .255 .437 .702 195 1.4
Adam Duvall 28 108 10 0 .310 .361 .690 175 1.3
Gleyber Torres 26 114 8 4 .310 .395 .620 178 1.3
Mitch Garver 25 102 9 0 .314 .416 .674 192 1.3
William Contreras 26 120 4 1 .291 .392 .495 140 1.3
Jake Burger 27 113 6 0 .337 .381 .577 158 1.3
Jeremy Peña 28 121 0 1 .346 .417 .458 147 1.3
Francisco Lindor 27 118 4 8 .296 .356 .454 126 1.3

Turner has also hit the second-most home runs in baseball, behind only his teammate Schwarber, thanks to a five-game homer streak that was rudely snapped on Sunday. But his placement in these ranks is more than the product of a run of round-trippers. Even if you put the cutoff point right before the first game of his homer streak, Turner was still hitting .345/.378/.619 with 13 extra-base hits in 90 plate appearances.

How has he done it? Improved plate discipline has been a part of the equation. Turner has been a more aggressive hitter the last few years, and his out-of-zone swing percentage spiked to 36% last season with the Dodgers, easily the highest in his career to that point. For the first four months of 2023, that went even higher, to 39%. While he’s still remained aggressive over the last month, with his swing rate hanging steady at 52%, the types of pitches he’s swung as has changed; his out-of-zone swings dropped by five percentage points, and his in-zone swing increased by the same margin. This kind of improvement is harder than it sounds, as reducing out-of-zone swings more often than not results in fewer zone swings due to increased passivity. Staying aggressive while seeing these kinds of movements in the numbers reflects how talented a hitter Turner is.

Unsurprisingly, hitting better pitches has resulted in better results. Statcast hard-hit numbers stabilize quickly, and Turner’s 48% hard-hit rate over the last month is well above his 40% rate over the first four months of the season. His total of 17 barrels in that span almost matches the 20 he hit over the first two-thirds of 2023.

So has Turner restored his career back into the pre-2023 trajectory? Not quite, but things certainly look a lot sunnier than last month:

ZiPS Projection – Trea Turner
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2024 .291 .342 .486 609 98 177 33 4 26 88 45 134 25 124 3 5.6
2025 .286 .338 .473 581 92 166 31 3 24 81 43 129 21 119 2 4.9
2026 .277 .330 .454 549 84 152 28 3 21 73 41 123 17 112 1 4.0
2027 .268 .321 .432 514 75 138 26 2 18 64 38 117 14 104 0 3.0
2028 .262 .316 .416 469 66 123 23 2 15 56 35 109 11 99 -1 2.3
2029 .257 .311 .400 417 56 107 20 2 12 47 31 100 9 93 -2 1.6
2030 .252 .304 .386 365 47 92 17 1 10 40 26 88 7 88 -3 1.0
2031 .249 .302 .380 305 39 76 14 1 8 32 22 75 5 86 -3 0.7
2032 .246 .299 .373 276 34 68 12 1 7 28 19 68 4 83 -4 0.4
2033 .239 .288 .350 197 22 47 8 1 4 19 13 49 2 74 -3 0.0

The back of the contract still looks unpleasant, but it was always going to, simply because we’re talking a 30-year-old shortstop’s projected performance in his early 40s. But the front end of the deal looks a lot nicer, and let’s be honest, that’s why he’s in Philadelphia, not because of what he would theoretically do in 2033. He entered the year with the best five-year projection of any shortstop in baseball; by August, that was down to seventh. In a single month, he’s climbed back up to third, behind Lindor and Wander Franco, whose future looks very murky as a result of some serious investigations in his home country. Turner has even got his Hall of Fame trajectory mostly back on track; ZiPS seems him finishing around 2,300 hits and 300 homers with 60 WAR, and while that’s a tough case to make based on history, those numbers put him right around Alan Trammell, who should absolutely be in the Hall.

For most of the summer, Turner was having a season that everyone wanted to forget. If he continues to hit like this and the Phillies go deep in the playoffs, nobody will remember his midseason struggles in 2023.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Kevbot034
1 year ago

You always end up wondering about the “new contract” pressures and everything, and what people’s home lives are like (ton of stress with the baby famously arriving 9 months after the contract signing and such). Easy to forget ballplayers aren’t machines but people. Hope he’s back, he seems like a good dude and he’s fun to watch.