The 2018 Free-Agent Bargains

Last week, I released my top-50 list for the free agents available this offseason, including both my own and our community’s forecasts for the contracts those players will receive this winter. Over the next couple of days, I’ll provide a few names that I think look like particularly good or bad bets based on our contract expectations.

Today, we’ll do the expected bargains. I think that, last year, my picks turned out okay. I had Justin Turner and Rich Hill as the two best bets for the price, with Neil Walker, Brett Cecil, and Matt Holliday rounding out my top five. Walker was pretty good when healthy, but health is part of why he took the Mets qualifying offer. Cecil was lousy early in the year but ended up being fine overall, while Holliday was the opposite, posting a good first half until injuries caused him to collapse in the second.

Of course, my track record isn’t always that good, and several of the players I identify as potential bargains below will probably be terrible next year. So it goes when signing free agents. But if I had some money to spend this winter and were looking to make my team better in the short-term, here’s where I would be looking to spend it.

As always, more credit is given for higher-impact players; getting a bargain on a role player isn’t as useful as finding a good everyday guy. On to the list!

5. Doug Fister, RHP
Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 1 $9.0 M $9.0 M
Median Crowdsource 1 $8.0 M $8.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 1.5 $7.5 M $11.2 M
2018 Steamer Forecast
Age IP BB% K% GB% ERA FIP xFIP WAR RA9-WAR
34 138.0 7.9% 18.2% 47.7% 4.52 4.51 4.51 1.5 1.4

Outside of the top few arms available, this starting pitching class is mostly filled with pitch-to-contact starters who a contender should slot in at the back of their rotation. There are some solid innings-eaters around who will get paid for their ability to produce solid results in bulk, but if a team wants to shop in these waters, I’d suggest Fister as a lower cost option than most of his peers.

Jeff covered Fister’s return in detail, noting that the guy who ended up in Boston looked a lot like the guy who was one of the better pitchers in the American League for a while. During the last couple of months of the year, Fister was a top-20 starter in MLB.

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The stuff isn’t overwhelming, and Fister’s developed an uncharacteristic walk problem the last few years, but with a fastball back up around 90 mph, he may have regained enough velocity to make the arsenal work. He won’t give you 200 innings and might not crack your playoff rotation, but as a guy expected to settle for a one-year deal for less than $10 million, Fister could be a very solid addition to a team’s pitching staff.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 2 $11.0 M $22.0 M
Median Crowdsource 2 $8.0 M $16.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 2.3 $8.8 M $19.8 M
2018 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
33 455 7.7% 15.2% .261 .327 .368 .303 85 -5.9 6.9 1.6

Few players have as extreme a skillset as Jarrod Dyson. He makes some of the weakest contact of any hitter in baseball, and is especially terrible against left-handed pitching. On the other hand, he’s also one of the best defensive outfielders in the game and, after adjusting for playing time, has been the most valuable non-Billy Hamilton baserunner in MLB the last three years.

An aging speed-based player isn’t a guy you want to bet on long-term, but just as middle relievers have seen their value increase as teams figure out how to best leverage those skills in the postseason, so too is Dyson a perfect fourth outfielder for nearly any contender. Not only does he provide enough offense against right-handed pitching to occupy the strong side of a platoon, he’s the perfect postseason bench player and could impact every October game with his legs and his glove if deployed correctly.

Dyson doesn’t have much upside, and he’ll be out of the league when he loses a few steps. Right now, though, he still looks like a guy who can give you a couple of wins of value in the regular season, then serve as a huge asset in October. Even if it takes a two-year deal to land him, contenders should be lining up to add him to their outfield mix.

3. Tommy Hunter, RHP
Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 2 $5.0 M $10.0 M
Median Crowdsource 2 $6.0 M $12.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 1.9 $6.4 M $12.3 M
2018 Steamer Forecast
Age IP BB% K% GB% ERA FIP xFIP WAR RA9-WAR
31 65.0 7.1% 23.8% 46.3% 3.71 3.70 3.83 0.2 0.1

Raise your hand if you knew that, among qualified relievers, Hunter threw the fourth-hardest cutter and seventh-hardest sinker in MLB last year. Put your hands down, liars.

While Hunter’s velocity spiked up a while ago, he threw a lot of straight four-seam fastballs that still didn’t miss bats. But after signing with the Rays as a minor-league free agent last winter, he started featuring his cutter far more often, in part because he now throws it 94 mph. The pitch helped him reinvent himself as a dominant reliever. It was only 58 innings of work, so the projections think he’s still not that good, but he ran the same xwOBA as Andrew Miller and Roberto Osuna this year, and the stuff backs up the dominance.

Brandon Morrow is going to be the popular remember-me-I-throw-hard reliever this winter. For a team that wants to bet on a similar level of velocity and recent dominance, but doesn’t want to pay the sticker price for Morrow, Hunter is a pretty nifty alternative. Unless the market buys into Hunter’s 2017 rejuvenation in an unexpected way, he looks like the best bet in this reliever pool to be throwing crucial innings next October without requiring a significant financial commitment in order to sign.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 4 $17.0 M $68.0 M
Median Crowdsource 4 $17.0 M $68.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 4.2 $17.6 M $73.2 M
2018 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
32 595 7.5% 17.8% .287 .346 .435 .336 107 5.5 6.3 3.2

Like his former teammate a few spots up, the case against Cain is pretty easy to make: speed-based player who turns 32 in April, battled hamstring problems in 2016, and has played 150-plus games just once in his career. His 2017 season looks almost exactly like Jacoby Ellsbury’s 2014 campaign, which was his last as an above-average MLB player. Guys who rack up baserunning and fielding value on the wrong side of 30 are risky bets. There’s no question Cain is one lower-half injury away from losing his status as an impact player.

But let’s not ignore the fact that, since his 2014 breakout, Cain is 20th among position players in WAR, even with some missed time in there. His peers who have put up +18 WAR in the last four years include guys like Nolan Arenado, Freddie Freeman, Manny Machado, and Justin Turner. He’s probably not going to keep pace with those guys over the next four years, but we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that Cain has been one of baseball’s very best players for a sustained period of time. He has a lot of room to get worse and still be quite good.

And while Cain does get a lot of his value from his speed, he’s not a Dyson-esque slap hitter. His exit velocity measurements are almost identical to Buster Posey’s. Of the 100 hitters who had at least 400 batted balls tracked by Statcast in 2017, Cain’s 89.2 mph average exit velocity ranked 22nd, tying him with Edwin Encarnacion, one spot behind George Springer. This isn’t a guy to whom you can just throw fastballs and get away with it.

Dspite heading towards 32, Cain remains one of the fastest players in the game. By the Statcast fielding data, he still looks like an elite defender, even if UZR and DRS think he took a step back last year. Oh, and that one time he played in more than 150 games in his career? That was last year, so his health problems are all at least somewhat old news.

There’s a real argument to be made that Cain could be the best free agent in this class if his legs hold up. While the general consensus seems to suggest that he’s in line for a deal around $70 million, I’d go significantly higher than that to add him to my roster, and would even consider pushing up to $100 million over five years if I had a clear need in center field and could translate his addition into a deep playoff run. There’s risk with any aging player who gets so much value from his legs, but I’d rather bet on Cain’s upside at his expected price than sign any other outfielder on the market.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 4 $18.0 M $72.0 M
Median Crowdsource 3 $15.0 M $45.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 3.5 $15.6 M $54.7 M
2018 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
32 651 15.2% 15.3% .261 .377 .479 .366 127 21.0 -10.6 3.2

The only real way to explain the public antipathy towards Carlos Santana’s free agency is that walks are still boring. Other than that, I have absolutely no idea why everyone thinks Santana is getting around $50 million this winter. It’s not just our crowdsourced projections: MLB Trade Rumors ranked him as their 12th-best free agent and projected he’d get $45 million over three years. Jon Heyman came in at three years and $48 million. His “expert” contract estimating partner came in at 3/$38M.

Either everyone understands something I don’t or Santana is the game’s most underrated player, because those numbers just don’t make sense for a guy who has been an above-average big leaguer every season of his career. Santana is among the game’s most consistent and durable players, having played in 150 games in five straight years and six of the last seven. Outside of his rookie year in 2010, which began in the minors, he’s never hit fewer than 600 times in a season.

And with the exception of a slight off-year in 2015, his wRC+ has been between 117 and 132 in each of those full seasons. Even in his down year, he was an above-average hitter, putting up a 107 wRC+ and +2.1 WAR.

Santana is as safe a bet as free agents get. His control of the strike zone gives him a high offensive floor even if the power erodes, which it hasn’t yet. His batted-ball profile isn’t amazing, but it’s just fine for a high-contact hitter who draws a bunch of walks, and there’s no evidence that his results have been propped up by unsustainable performances. And while Santana used to be a pretty lousy defensive catcher, he’s made himself into a perfectly fine defensive first baseman, so he’s not limited to AL-only bidders.

He might not have superstar upside, and perhaps a guy who’s just a consistently good-not-great hitter while playing everyday doesn’t feel like a big impact, but Santana is the safest bet for +3 WAR next year that you’re going to find in this class. And above-average big leaguers shouldn’t be signing for $40 to $50 million in MLB’s current economy. He’s being projected to receive fractionally more than Mark Trumbo or Kendrys Morales, or roughly the same total dollar commitment that Josh Reddick got last winter coming off a +1.1 WAR season.

This is bananas. Santana projects as a better player than Edwin Enacnacion did last year, when the latter got 3/$60M after turning down 4/$80M from the Blue Jays. And Encarnacion got that despite only being able to negotiate with the few AL teams that had openings at DH. Santana’s market should be much broader, and if he doesn’t eclipse Encarnacion’s $60 million guarantee from last winter, a bunch of teams screwed up. I guessed that he’d actually sign for $72 million, but I’d probably go as high as $80 million if he’d spread it out over five years. Santana might not be a superstar, but he’s a good, consistent, durable player who will help his next team more than it seems many people might anticipate.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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Mahoney
8 years ago

Bonus for my Red Sox signing Santana: they can use one of his many hit singles to replace “Sweet $!$#ing Caroline”

kevinthecomic
8 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

oye como va {pause} mi ritmo

ItsPoPtime
8 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

The guitar riffs play in my head every time I see a redsox fan advocate for signing JDM or Stanton.

Bret
8 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

Two guys with the same name, and both have hit singles.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Bret

I literally never get tired of Carlos Santana jokes. MA-RIA MA-RI-AAAAA…

(that’s a double pun, for those of you counting at home)

Sleepy
8 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

But where will they play him after they give Hosmer $150 million?

mike89
8 years ago

People probably just still confuse Carlos Santana for the guitarist and don’t see much upside in his guitar swing. Idk

Dooduh
8 years ago

Regarding Santana, he’s already a low power guy for a 1Bman, so he doesn’t have much room to decline. And given that this contract takes him into his mid 30s, there is prob some legit concern there.

It’s like what you said regarding Cain… that even if he declines some, he’s still valuable. It’s prob less so for Santana.

And actually I thought the guy that most fit that paradigm is Zack Cozart. I know Cozart has been front and center on Dave’s hit list since the season ended, but to me he’s poster boy for having solid value even if he regresses some. Even Dave’s piece on Cozart profiting possibly as many as 8-10 HRs from “the ball” it’s not like you should assume those 8-10 become outs. Most of those 8-10 prob fall in as doubles. Regardless, Cozart is such a good SS, that even assuming this was a career year and he regresses, he’s still easily a 3+ win SS. And given the contract projections for him, he should easily be at the top of this list.

wilkie
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

“He’s already a low power guy for a 1Bman, so he doesn’t have much room to decline.”

I feel as though this statement is objectively false in more than one way.

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  wilkie

Why? He’s bottom third in HRs for a 1Bman. I don’t think that was a controversial statement.

Santana was 20th in RC+ and 23rd in SLG for 1Bmen this season.

jdbolickMember since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  wilkie

From a power standpoint over the last three years, Santana is basically equal with Mitch Moreland. And while Carlos doesn’t necessarily need to be platooned, it is worth noting that over the last two years he has displayed even less power against left-handed pitchers. So much of his value being tied up in walks would concern me, as I would expect pitchers to challenge him more often within the strike zone.

Dave TMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Santana’s ISO being the same as Mitch Moreland over the past three years is pretty much the epitome of a statement that’s true but misleading. Santana’s OBP over the same period is .362 compared to .319 for Moreland, which explains why Santana has a 118 wRC+ over that period compared to 100 for Moreland.

I don’t see a strong basis for thinking that pitchers will successfully start challenging Santana more in the zone. His power can drop quite a bit before he’d look like player to challenge in the zone. Santana’s ISO in 2017 was .196, compared to league average of .175 for non-pitchers. Santana also has such a low strikeout rate (14.1% in 2017, 17.0% career) that he doesn’t profile as a player with a lot of swing and miss to his game.

What you’re saying strikes me as a legitimate concern for three true outcome slugger types if their power declines with age: the power doesn’t scare pitchers much anymore, but they still have swing and miss to their game, so their ISO and BB rate both drop while the K rate remains elevated. Santana is decidedly not that type of player, however, and never really has been.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Agree with Wilmerrr that your take on Santana’s power is a steaming pile. However, I did expect to find Cozart and possibly Tyler Chatwood on this list. Perhaps I’ve just spent too much time on their respective bandwagons.

As you note, Cozart has such a high floor as a defender, and early estimates seem to expect him to only be paid for his glove – it’s all upside on the offensive side. Seemingly easily accessible upside too. Few teams are looking for shortstops too.

As for Chatwood, I feel like he brings a similar median profile as Fister except with substantial potential for profit. While the best case scenario for Fister is that he’s boringly reliable, Chatwood has potential for a Morton-like breakout. He’ll cost more as a result, perhaps meriting a three-year deal at a similar AAV to Fister. In today’s market, that’s still an easy gamble.

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Do you have anything more on the Santana subject than “steaming pile?”

Seriously… that’s the sum total of your counter argument?

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Didn’t think it needed any further elaboration. His stats page speaks for itself.

How about an average of 24 home runs and a 122 wRC+ over the last seven seasons – spread evenly over those campaigns? Those are strong offensive numbers, even for a 1B. By just wOBA or wRC+, he’s between 12th and 14th out of the 60 1B with 1,000 PA since 2011.

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

And 117 RC+ this past season and 118 the past 3 seasons. I think it’s reasonable to suggest that heading into his age 32 season and beyond that a decline from 117 is possible (if not likely). And as I pointed out, he was 20th at 1B this season and 23rd in SLG. Falling off from there and without much in the way of secondary skills and it starts to look rocky. (Why should we care what Carlos Santana did in 2011?! or 12 or 13 for that matter?)

Again, I’m just speculating as to why the crowdsourced data came in below DC’s projection. If EE got a 3 yr deal a year older than Santana is now, then it’s not unreasonable for CS to get 4 years. I could see him in that 4/60 area and maybe topping out at 4/64M.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

I only included so far back because it’s identical to his current performance. A 124 and 118 wRC+ are the same performance.

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Are they?

free-range turducken
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Is your last name Boras?

isavage
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Eh, Santana’s got a .218 ISO over the past 2 seasons, that’s low for 1b. And last year the 117 wRC+ is 18th for qualified 1b. The .196 ISO was 19th.

Dave compares him to Encarnacion, saying that he projects to be better, but those 2 aren’t comparable on offense, and teams don’t pay for defense for an aging 1b/DH (and Santana’s defense at 1b has been very up and down). Over the past 2 seasons Santana has a 124 wRC+. Solid, but about middle of the pack for 1b/dh. Over EEs last 2 seasons prior to his free agency his wRC+ was 142. If you take Santana and make him even 10% worse on offense because he’s getting older, then he’s got below average offense for a 1b. And it’s really not been difficult to find 1b who can give you a 110-120 wRC+ for cheap. I mean you take a Santana and make him a little worse and you’ve basically got Luis Valbuena. I certainly wouldn’t expect him to be putting up 3 WAR seasons as he’s getting to be 32+

wilkie
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Compared to league-wide ISO’s at 1B he’s been above-average in 3 out of the last 5 years.

But that’s hardly even relevant because why would we ignore all aspects of hitting other than power? Santana’s best skill is his plate discipline, and that is what separates him from other hitters. His career wRC+ is 123. That’s well above average for any position.

To say that he has little “room for decline” is ridiculous. He has just as much room for decline as any other hitter with the same degree of separation from replacement level. If anything he may age well, since his value is tied not to mashing the ball but to exceptional K and BB rates.

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  wilkie

Again, this was an attempt to explain why “the crowd” might’ve come in below DC on the projection. You don’t have to agree with the logic, but logic I provided.

But I will add (not snarky) that we see people use career averages a lot in these discussions, but when projecting forward into the 30s, citing career numbers loses some relevance. You should explain why teams will care what Santana did in 2011 or 2012 when they are going to try and value him for 2018-2020.

And btw, I disagree that ISO and SLG is “hardly relevant” when those metrics are normally weighted pretty heavily at 1B.

ItsPoPtime
8 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Do you know what the best predictor of future behavior? I bet you do, and although that statement means much less in baseball, when you’ve been a guy that has kept the power profile (some HR, more doubles), with an ability to get on base while playing decent defense and being left handed. Those things start adding up.

2 years from now CS will still be an above average hitter by first baseman standards, and hes still going to be hitting 5th or 6th playing everyday.

Simply saying that last years offensive output was slightly higher than this years therefore + age = significant offensive decline is a pretty slippery slope.

isavage
8 years ago
Reply to  wilkie

“Compared to league-wide ISO’s at 1B he’s been above-average in 3 out of the last 5 years.” That’s a weird thing to say. So he’s been below average in 2 out of the past 5? And above average in 3? So overall … he’s been about average? And is now almost 32 years old, and going forward you would project him to likely be below average?

southie
8 years ago

There’s going to be a lot of wasted bitcoin this off-season.

MetsoxMember since 2016
8 years ago

Santana in Coors would be amazing

Dooduh
8 years ago
Reply to  Metsox

I think there was a similar thought process for Ian Desmond.

Yeah, I was half kidding on that. I realize Santana is a much better hitter than Desmond. Except there were a lot of people who thought Desmond in CO would be sizzle!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Metsox

Everyone in Coors would be amazing, except Alcides Escobar and the impostor who is impersonating Albert Pujols in Orange County.

LHPSU
8 years ago

Doug Fister shouldn’t be anywhere near this list. Anything more than league minimum would be overpay for him.

letmegocheck
8 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

I’ll take downvotes with you, because I think it would be insane to give him a contract nearing 10 million. This guy was given a minor league deal halfway through the year, was released by that team, then picked up by Boston on a minor league deal where he failed to impress.

I’m not seeing how Doug Fister’s trajectory changed from minor league deal to 10 million dollar contract.

Mike NMN
8 years ago

Dave is right. Santana is boring. On the right team, he could be a really useful productive bat, but he’s not going to set hearts aflutter. I wonder if he’s the type of player who really does get hurt by the impact of the competitive balance tax threshold.

emh1969
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike NMN

“but he’s not going to set hearts aflutter”

I think there’s some truth to that. He’s a hard sell to “Average-Joe/Jill baseball fan” because he’s a slugger who’s never driven in 90 runs. Many of my friends who are Indians fans didn’t think they should have picked up his $12 million option last year. But they loved the Edwin Encarnación signing. Of course’s EE’s stats look a lot better on the back of a baseball card, which is how lots of fans still evaluate players.

emh1969
8 years ago

I’m not convinced that Santana will end up being a bargain. All reports are that he’s receiving a LOT of interest from other teams. Paul Hoynes, the Indians beat writer said he expects Santana to get 3-5 years for about $20 million a year based on the interest he’s drawing. Which would put him in range of Dave’s contract estimate, or maybe even a bit above.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

I’ve been reading fans of every team say “let’s sign Carlos Santana for 3/45!” But if the Red Sox and Mets and Angels and Phillies are all in on this (or even one or two of them) he is not getting 3/45. They’ll be bidding against all those other teams plus Cleveland. He’s getting a nicer contract than that

v2miccaMember since 2016
8 years ago

Yeah, I’m not feeling the love for Santana. Admittedly his career 123 wRC+ appears to be driven by his OBP, which tends to age well. But given how the market has cratered for corner sluggers, there just seems to be too many options out there to pay the premium for Santana.

pumpsie greenMember since 2022
8 years ago

Santana should be higher than Hosmer, a reputed dickhead, on every GM’s list. Steamer projects Santana at half a win more than Hosmer this year, yet contract projections for Hosmer are off the charts. Still, though, why wouldn’t a GM of a contending team take a serious run at Votto instead? Six years on a contract with $22.5 aav for the almost-mvp seems more palatable than either of these options.

DKH
8 years ago
Reply to  pumpsie green

Votto has a full no-trade clause, and I don’t think there has been any indication he wants out of Cincinnati.

Spa City
8 years ago

If I ran a team and Carlos Santana was available at 3 years/$45M, I would immediately write him a check, and then buy him a new Ferrari as a bonus, and then laugh at my rival GMs as they compete to throw the most money at Eric Hosmer.

Slappytheclown
8 years ago

That’s a solid list, Cain would be near the top of mine. Santana is a safe choice – I think he’ll provide some surplus value, but I don’t think it will be tons although if he posts three 3WAR seasons that’s 75mil value and gets 50Mil…that’s 25mil. I suppose that’s not chump change. I do think Duda, Alonso and Morrison all could provide some surplus value as well, though it might not be $25mil worth just because they might only get 1 or 2 year deals. I’ll throw Frazier, Alonson, Cargo (hey, he played much better 2nd half last year – injury 1st half?), J. Garcia for a SP and Swarzak for RP. For the barbain bin RP …oh it’s ugly…Cahill? If he wanted to go back to pen.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago

I would have put Alex Cobb on this list based on the reported 3/$45 million number that was being thrown around earlier, but it now looks like he’s going higher than that.

I also think Logan Morrison would be worth a shot, and Neil Walker’s medicals are scary but he’s been good for a while.

Finally, I would be very interested in a one-year prove it deal for Chris Tillman.

Jim Melichar
8 years ago

Any list with Jarrod Dyson is immediately irrelevant, am I right?

White Jar
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Melichar

He has played for KC and SEA. Not exactly teams that get exposure in other markets. If he had played for NYY and BOS over the last 5 years, that would change your view of him, am I right?

cleverusername
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Melichar

no

stonepie
8 years ago

Santana’s contract will likely be much larger than initially thought. people will realize he’s comparble to hosmer, bringing carlos’ deal up and hosmer’s down.
i thought chatwood might be on here, same with cozart and possibly avila.

kev1nchoi
8 years ago

I think people are just tired of Carlos Santana after this summer’s DJ Khaled/Rihanna hit “Wild Thoughts”.

Corey2Member since 2021
8 years ago

I guess I think the Mariners strategy ought to be to sign every one of those guys except Santana.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
8 years ago

When you talk about bargains or overpays aren’t you assuming teams act irrational? Depending on the price any player can be a bargain or a bad deal it just depends on the price.

Wouldn’t you expect teams to adjust for this so that in reality everyone is valued about correctly? I mean this isn’t 1999, all the teams now have a stat department that is running projections and calculating value.

Now some contracts turn out to be bargains because players beat projections or do worse but generally teams can project a players performance curve.

Of course it only takes one irrational gm or owner bypassing his gm but generally I think teams got better at this.

Paul22
8 years ago

As for Santana Dave is ignoring his physical conditioning. Fat players carry more risk as they age unless they are strictly a DH and even then. Doesnt mean he wont age well but you have to factor his weight in, especially post Pablo

isavage
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul22

What are you talking about? Carlos Santana is not fat