The Angels’ Path to Contention
Two relevant facts here are indisputable. One, in this most recent season, the Angels were bad. They won 74 games. By BaseRuns, they “should have” won 71 games. That made them about as good as the Twins and the Braves. Horrible season. Two, baseball fans love a blockbuster. It’s not even unique to baseball. Sports fans love a blockbuster. They love seeing them, they love thinking about them, and they love talking about them. Big trades might be even more exciting than big games.
Connect the points and you end up with Mike Trout trade proposals. The Angels narrative is being driven by the Mike Trout fantasy — that is, the fantasy of Mike Trout being available. This comes up in every one of my chats, and my chats aren’t special. As the reasoning goes, the Angels are bad, and they’re probably going to stay bad, so why don’t they trade Trout to re-stock an empty system? It’s actually kind of convincing. The Angels’ system is in legitimately bad shape.
Yet the major-league product isn’t so terrible. Something not enough people seem to understand: The Angels are under no obligation to blow things up. In large part because of Trout, the Angels are in half-decent shape. Perhaps even better than that. They have a real path to the playoffs as soon as next year.
I’ve mentioned the Angels’ preliminary 2017 projection a few times. Admittedly, even I’ve been surprised. It’s just one projection, based on imperfect depth charts that will change every week for the next several months, but the projections for the moment make the Angels look solid. By projected WAR, and projected WAR alone, the Angels are presently ninth in baseball, between the Cardinals and the Mets. They’re fourth in the American League, and second in the AL West. In other words, they could project as a playoff team even right now. I doubt many expected the Angels to project better than the Mariners and Rangers. I bet some people are surprised to even see them better than the A’s.
But — well maybe this is a good reminder. Before last year, the Angels ranked 16th in projected WAR. In the end, they were 21st in wins. The year before that, they were 10th and 11th, respectively. The year before that, they were 10th and first. A similar Angels team in 2015 nearly made the playoffs. This past year was particularly dreadful.
Even then, the Angels finished ninth in baseball in WAR on the position-player side. That’s pretty good! They were 29th in pitcher WAR. Broken out, their starters were 28th, and their relievers were 28th. The Angels couldn’t pitch. The Angels were hurt.
Next year’s Angels could easily end up in better shape. And this is probably where everything turns. I mean, yeah, the Angels would be crippled if something bad happened to Trout. But the realistic risk is in the projected rotation. Because, three of the expected starters are Matt Shoemaker, Garrett Richards, and Tyler Skaggs. Shoemaker’s season ended after surgery on his head. Richards chose to rehab from a torn UCL. Skaggs is himself putting a torn UCL in his rear-view mirror. He actually had the surgery, but down the stretch he did experience something of an arm problem. All of these guys are going to be important. They all, obviously, have question marks.
Something the Angels don’t have is rotation depth. So they need for their arms to stay healthy. Now, I think Shoemaker’s going to be all right. I don’t see any reason to believe he’s going to suffer physical or psychological after-effects. Skaggs has some risk, but the last time they imaged his UCL, it was clean. Pitchers come back from Tommy John surgery all the time. The Richards case is the most fascinating, because he received a stem-cell therapy. That promoted healing in his elbow ligament. Andrew Heaney had the same procedure, and it didn’t work, so he went under the knife. With Richards, it’s worked, at least to this point. He’s passed all the tests, and he’s thrown, reaching high-90s velocity. We’re conditioned to be skeptical about these things, but, remember how skeptical everyone was about Masahiro Tanaka? Richards could very well be fine. He might be ready to start 30 games.
Give the Angels some pitchers and it’s just not a bad roster. For the sake of comparison, we all feel pretty good about the Indians, yes? Their top-10 projected players right now combine for 32 projected WAR. The top-10 projected Red Sox players also combine for 32 projected WAR. The top-10 projected Angels players combine for 31 projected WAR. They’re effectively even, and it shouldn’t be held against them that so much of that just comes from Trout. That’s an advantage that they have, where one star player is basically two star players.
The Angels aren’t so deep. I’m sure even they understand that. Right now, they project in the top 10, positionally, at only center field, shortstop, right field, and DH. They’re almost at the bottom at third base, they’re tied for the bottom at second base, and no team projects to have a worse bullpen. This team is thin, which means there’s a narrow margin of error. There’s not so much on the farm the Angels could call up to plug any developing holes.
So what resources there are are financial. As I build out a projected 25-man roster, I get an estimated team payroll of $142 million. The average of their last three payrolls is about $155 million. Last year’s payroll was about $165 million. That suggests what the Angels have to work with, and they say they’d like to find boosts at catcher, second, and the pitching staff. They’ve already put $9 million toward Cameron Maybin, to plug a hole in left. I don’t see the Angels hanging around the top of the market. They don’t have the prospects for the trades, and they don’t have the money for splashes.
I’m just not convinced they *need* splashes. What they need are tweaks, depth, support for the star center fielder. This isn’t how anyone would choose to build a roster, I don’t think, and I’m guessing that’s part of the reason for why people think the Angels should tear it all apart. The don’t have a Cubs or Astros thing going on, so, why even bother? I get it; the system is lacking, and the product is thin and vulnerable. But the roster can still be competitive. It was competitive two years ago. Yeah, it could come undone if a starter or two get hurt, but wouldn’t that be true for almost anyone? We can’t assume Richards is screwed. We can’t assume Skaggs is screwed. And if the Angels have them both, they’re going to prevent more runs than they did.
At this moment in time, the Angels don’t need to blow it up. Just 11 months from now, they could be a playoff team, and it wouldn’t take a miracle. I wouldn’t say they’re in enviable shape, but, are the Rangers? Are the Mariners? Are the A’s? No, no, and no. The Angels can try to do their best in the majors while slowly addressing the improvement of the levels below. It’s a difficult process, but all of them are.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
It is difficult to imagine what sort of package is necessary to acquire Mike Trout. It feels like the correct answer is the entire farm system, 100 million dollars, and the owner’s Ferrari collection. (That’s a slight exaggeration.)
The Cubs are deep so let’s speculate a bit: how about a deal for Soler/Baez/Schwarber/Arrieta?
Also, this may be a little nit-picky but it IS disputable that the Angels were ‘bad’ last year. They were bad relative to expectations and payroll, but a 74 win season isn’t bad considering the historic number of DL stints they suffered through.
No way. Arrieta is a free agent at the end of the year and while I love the other three they do all have questions (none of them have ever put together a full, quality season). The Angels could do better.
Every time the Trout trade stuff comes up, I just come to the conclusion that it will never happen because there’s just too much risk on both sides. The package to obtain him would be hilariously huge and teams love prospects too much to part with them.
BTW, I see that the 2017 Depth Chart and Steamer projections are on the player pages and the early projection on Trout is 8.5 WAR next year. As I posted in one thread before this year, that’s ridiculous. His projection is higher than any other player put up this year. That’s saying that if Trout is just average, he’s better than everyone else’s career years. 8.5 is better than any other position player season since 2010 except for Ellsbury in 2011 and Harper and Donaldson (barely) in 2015.
Dude is just ridiculously good.
He was actually projected for over 9 WAR the last couple seasons. To be honest, I’m not quite sure why this projection, and this is going to sound crazy, is so low. His floor so far has been 8 wins, so yeah, he might not reach 9 this year, but he’s now reached 9 in 4 of his 5 seasons, he’s back to running again, and he’s about to enter his age 25 season. While it’s hard to believe he has areas where he could grow, he’s not yet posted ISO figured on par with the preeminent power hitters in the game, at least not consistently. If he adds even 5% to his power output, and continues to draw walks as well as anyone in the game, strike out about league average, and continues to post one of the best BABIP in baseball, no reason why he couldn’t have a 180-190 wRC+ year. Coupled with what is probably league average defense and top flight baserunning, and you’ve got a recipe for another 10 win season. I’m just having a hard time seeing him not hit 8.5 this year, and certainly see him exceeding it.
You got to figure the projections have some regression to the mean built in to get to the 8.5 WAR. As a “floor”, if Trout had his worst year for hitting, baserunning, and fielding in 2017, he’d only have 7.3 WAR.
Now, if he improves after age 25 the way Donaldson did….
It’s really exciting to think of what the guy could do next. His last five seasons are just too good to be true. Could he steal 30 bases again? Could he hit 50 HR’s? What would his WAR be if he improved his defensive metrics? It’s so much fun to see Trout adjust to what pitchers throw him. Like he came up as the best low ball pitcher in baseball. Then they threw him high pitches and he became one of the best high ball hitters around. 2016 they just pitched around him and he took what they gave him and walked 17% of the time.
Angels second basemen hit a combined 235/275/345 last year with most of that production coming from Giavotella’s 262/288/378 line over 365 PAs.
From that baseline Scooter Gennett’s 263/317/412 line looks like a pretty nice improvement.
There isn’t much on the Anaheim farm which kinda makes it a perfect match as Scooter won’t require much in return.
You’re clearly forgetting about the Cistulli golden boy Sherman Johnson – http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa658344&position=2B
Johnson’s hitting in AAA was unimpressive. We’ll see.
Lawrie/ gennett platoon would just cost money basically. Could see them going after Justin turner and move Escobar to second as well.
BTW why is Jerry dipoto never citized for allowing that mess of a farm system to happen? I know he is supposed to be a Sabermetric genius but the farm system he built is easily worse than the farm Dave Stewart created and dipoto never got the same flak as Stewart.
I never heard the name dipoto when the bad angels farm is discussed but he was the GM of the team from 11-15. when people talk about the angels farm usually there is more talk about sciocia than about dipoto.
The GM is mostly responsible for building a front office, but then it’s mostly other parts of the front office responsible for drafting and developing young talent. So while ultimately it might’ve come down to Dipoto, in terms of overall responsibility, he wasn’t making the draft picks, and he wasn’t providing young-player instruction.
After realizing his scouting director had perennially poor drafting, Dipoto should’ve replaced him. As a longtime Angels fan, I can confidently say the writing on the wall has been on the wall for Ric Wilson since 2013.
Billy Eppler fired Rich Wilson right after this year’s draft. This draft was in stark contrast to previous Wilson drafts and I got the strong impression that Wilson had been pushed out unofficially long before the ax came down.
The Angels trade away the players that they draft. I don’t think they are a bad drafting organization.
true, bt shouldnt he have fired the People in that department and got better ones? ultimately if you are a CEO you are responsible for what your employees do and if they can’t do it you Need to find a way to get it done.
Also drafting is not the only way to acquire prospects, there is also trades.
I’m not saying he is responsible alone (some People said it was sciocia who basically was a shadow GM making the big decisions) but ultimately dipoto must have had seen what was Happening there between 2011 and 2015.
I’ve never seen anyone blame Scioscia for the farm system. It feels like people just don’t discuss the Angels’ farm in general because it’s universally considered to be terrible, so there’s no real argument to be had. I can’t recall anyone defending it or Dipoto.
as near as I can tell the farm system began to crap out when Angels fired Eddie Bane in 2010. This was before DiPoto took it over (2011). Ill advised trades, a manager who runs the front office, and an apparent inability to properly evaluate the talent on hand all seem to have began in earnest shortly after Bane was let go.
Jeff,
Good stuff. There is a vibe of optimism/”Art of the Possible” to your writings that is entertaining to read.
Trout is the game’s best position player, in his prime and on a ridiculously-low contract in terms of value created. The Angels have drawn at least 37K per game since 2014, despite going from 98 to 85 to 74 wins.
It’s hard to imagine an Angels executive suggesting to Owner Arte Moreno, “We may lose 5K per game in attendance by trading Trout and rebuilding for 3 years, but think of the farm system we will have.”
You do realize marijuana isn’t legal in California yet. Back away from the bong…
Jeff lives in Oregon, though.
Remember that it’s easier to upgrade on bad than on mediocre. The Angels could easily add 6 WAR just by having league-average players at catcher, 2B and LF.
Could see targeting miguel Montero from the cubs.
We are (kind of surprisingly) predicted to not be horrible at catcher next year based on a Bandy/Perez platoon. And Maybin might be decent at LF. Now just pick up a 2B and we are in business.
Angels look pretty good so far. Counting on Garrett Richards and Skaggs to be healthy, a 5th starter would be nice and also a real second baseman. A few bullpen pieces would also be pretty nice but our GM has done a nice job of building depth through waiver claims; I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a couple surprise contributors from our pen.
On the whole, the Angels won 98 games as recently as 2014 and this 2017 team will have many of the same main pieces. Looking forward to next season, our GM has done a nice job of building depth so far (albeit very slowly) through waivers and trades. In a pretty balanced AL West, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Angels make some noise next year.
Mike Trout is a bit of a difficult situation to put your thumb on. Every year he stays the Angels farm stays bad because they need to field a team to keep him happy, meaning they will never really rebuild it sufficiently to restock.
By end of 2019 they will need to consider seriously trading him, by then for a much reduced asking price but, they will need to trade him at the right time or teams will make the Angels watch him walk out a free agent.
Given the Angels health and the bad contracts they have handcuffing them, their future doesn’t look like one Trout will commit his next contract to.