The Argument for Starting David Ross in Game Seven
Unofficially, Game 6 was over in the blink of an eye. Officially, it wasn’t complete for three and a half hours, but from close to the start, most fans were thinking ahead to Wednesday. Even while Game 6 was going, Game 7 was on everyone’s mind, as we prepared for the most anticipated showdown in, what, at least 15 years? You’re on this site right now to read about baseball, but you’re not looking to read about the game in the books. You want to read about the finale. Nothing is ever as important as it is in the finale.
Game 7 presents a funny situation. It’s one game, so it could turn on almost literally anything. In Game 6, after all, the biggest point according to win expectancy was Addison Russell’s routine fly ball that somehow dropped between two outfielders. Who would’ve guessed? You can’t predict any one-game scenario. At the same time, it’s never more critical to maximize the odds. Strategic calls are at their most important. Bullpen usage is at its most important. Lineup construction is at its most important. There’s nothing after Game 7 but gray clouds and winter. Half of the players will have a happier winter than the others.
As that lineup construction goes for the Cubs — look, I don’t want to deceive you. This isn’t that critical. What I’m writing about probably won’t make the biggest difference. But I see a case for starting David Ross over Willson Contreras. It has a lot to do with a guy supposedly available out of the bullpen.
In case you haven’t been reading closely, it’s going to be an all-hands-on-deck situation. That much should be obvious, and even Jake Arrieta has claimed that he’ll be available to pitch if he’s needed. Chances are, Arrieta won’t be needed. But, Jon Lester? The Cubs are a lot more likely to go with Jon Lester. He started Game 5, but he’ll be fresh enough to throw a few innings. At this point, it seems a virtual lock that Lester will appear, given how little trust Joe Maddon has shown in a lot of his bullpen.
If you know one thing about Jon Lester, it’s that he is a good pitcher. If you know…I don’t know, at least eight or nine things about Jon Lester, one of them is probably that he’s caught by David Ross. This year, Ross caught 99% of Lester’s innings. Last year, Ross caught 90% of Lester’s innings. As Lester goes, so does Ross, and therefore I assume that, if Lester comes in out of the bullpen, we know who’ll catch him. I might very well be wrong in this assumption, but it’s clear that Lester and Ross are comfortable with one another, and Game 7 would seem like a strange time to disrupt what’s been normal.
Assumptions, therefore: Lester will pitch at some point, so Ross will catch at some point. Lester will definitely not pitch first. That honor goes to Kyle Hendricks. So should Ross start the game, or should he relieve Contreras when Lester relieves who he relieves?
Some might think this is easy. I’ve seen a lot of people on Twitter saying that Contreras has looked lost, and when he recently faced Corey Kluber, he went 0-for-3 with three strikeouts. This isn’t easy, really. I doubt that Contreras is too far in the dumps. He should be expected to be a better hitter than Ross — and a better hitter by a decent margin. Contreras, as of right now, would project for a 97 wRC+. Ross, 71. They’re both right-handed. You’d rather have Contreras at the plate.
The clear downside of starting Ross is that, compared to starting Contreras, Ross bats an extra one or two times. Probably in, like, the third and the fifth. The difference between them in any given individual plate appearance is barely 0.03 runs, but it all counts. Contreras is more likely to do offensive damage. Game 7 is probably going to be pretty light on offense. Someone is going to need to score.
Yet if you start Ross, you have Contreras available on the bench. If you start Contreras and then go with Ross, your bench is lighter and you have but one catcher left. That lineup spot would come up again, at least once, and Joe Maddon would be less likely to pinch-hit if it would leave him on his final catcher. Managers don’t like being left without another catcher, especially, I’m guessing, in a Game 7. Starting with Ross, you could pinch-hit with Contreras in the later innings. It’s not guaranteed that the pinch-hit opportunity would come with a high leverage, but later plate appearances do average higher leverage indices than earlier plate appearance. So Contreras could make up for the swings he didn’t get early. When Lester is out, Ross could come out.
And it’s not just about what they can do at the plate. It’s also a matter of what they can do behind it, and, defensively speaking, Ross closes some of the offensive gap. By the eye test, Ross is the superior defensive catcher. They can both throw, and, according to the major-league statistics, they can both receive, but Contreras looks like the worse receiver, and Baseball Prospectus says he was below-average in the minors, which is relevant. Hendricks is going to start, and Hendricks is plenty familiar with pitching to Contreras, but this year he generated the third-lowest swing rate among qualified pitchers. Hendricks works around borders; he partially relies on umpire judgment. A good catcher and Kyle Hendricks can team up to steal strikes, and I have to think Ross would have some kind of advantage. It would somewhat cancel out the offensive gap as the Cubs wait to bring Lester in.
I don’t think there’s a clear answer here. I’m sure there are factors I haven’t considered, and I’m also sure that, when it comes to the probability, this decision isn’t huge. Contreras is fine, and Ross is fine, and this game will be determined by so many different things. But assuming Jon Lester is going to pitch, and assuming Lester is going to pitch to David Ross, I can see why Ross should just get the starting nod. It has nothing to do with Contreras’ recent performance, and it has nothing to do with Ross’ retirement. This is no time for nice gestures. It would of course be a nice gesture to start Ross in a Game 7. But it seems like it could also be more than that. There’s value in having that flexibility later. And there’s value in having Ross behind the plate.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Obvious solution to the problem of losing Contreras is to start Ross and Lester, bat Ross in the 9-hole, and put in Contreras (and Hendricks) before Ross’ spot comes up.
This is a good idea. My only concern is that you’re seemingly valuing Contreras’ offense over Ross’ defense. In a game like this that is likely to be low scoring, defense will likely be more significant. Aversion of errors in this game will be more important than having marginally more useful players on the field.
So leave Ross in for Hendricks (after Lester), and bring in Contreras if Ross’s spot in the order comes up in a high leverage situation. I love the idea of giving Lester one time through the order, and hope he makes that happen over the first 2-3 innings. Lester’s pickoff yips late in a tight game could be catastrophic.
In a game that’s likely to be low scoring, you could just as easily say that having 1 extra successful at-bat would likely be more significant.
Agreed. Came here to post the same thing. Game 7 of WS is the only game in which there’s no opportunity cost for a pitcher to pitching in the game since there’s no more games left, so there’s no benefit in waiting to see if a situation appears in which Lester is needed. Lester probably ideally has ~2 innings in him anyways, so neither he nor Ross likely need to bat if he and Ross start.
Probably also worth pointing out the value of the first run allowed relative to the second, third, etc is lowest early in the game. IOW, the breakeven steal success rate is higher in a tie game early than it is in a tie game late.
Since this game is in the AL park, Lester is not likely to bat under ANY scenario!
I know this is Fangraphs, but my gut tells me starting Ross is the right move. This reminds me a little bit of Bochy’s decision to start Juan Perez in left field in 2014 in game 7. The smallest things can decide a game like this, and really any Baseball game. The fact that the pitching is going to be so tough further magnifies the significance of small factors. I think there’s also an argument to be made that Ross could at least take three or four good at bats that help wear down the Indians pitchers. Outlasting pitching in this game could turn out to be more important than purely beating it. Contreras is more talented offensively, however I think there’s an immeasurable value in having Ross out there tonight. It’s similar to Javier Baez’s tags, which are hard to statistically appreciate, but prove important in deciding the outcome of the game. I usually stand by sabermetrics, but I say start Ross.
If David Ross gets 4 at bats in this game I’ll eat my shorts.
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What about starting the LH’d Montero vs Kluber? Kluber has allowed a wOBA of .304 vs L compared to .250 vs R (last 3 years). I understand the lack of production from Montero, but relative to Ross, he wouldn’t be a downgrade, he has the platoon advantage too. The data from the last 3 years reveals a 100 wRC+ for Montero vs R, compared to a 56 wRC+ vs R for G-PA.
That way you can have Ross w/Lester on the mound only, and Contreras available whenever needed. I know this idea could be shot down, because hypothetically, the Cubs would be left with Contreras as the only catcher. This could come into play if extra innings presents itself. So other than that scenario, would this move make any sense?
Cleveland has started a righty in every game of the series. Montero doesn’t get to play because he is unable to throw out a baserunner. Ross and Contreras have basically shut down the run game (outside of Rajai Davis 3 steal night) and Montero is inept throwing to the bases.
On Rajai Davis’ 3 steal night, Ross and Lester had 1 SB and 1 CS against.
Thanks for the reply. Using data from the last 3 years: Tomlin has a reverse split (.360 wOBA vs R & .276 wOBA vs L) so no platoon was needed (Montero). Bauer has a very small reverse split (.321 wOBA vs R & .312 vs L), much-much smaller than Tomlin, but again, no need for a platoon. That brings us to Kluber (his splits are noted in my previous post). This is a matchup where a platoon could make sense, but then again, Maddon has had 2 prior opportunities to start Montero vs Kluber and has chosen not too.
As far as throwing out runners, you got me there. I can’t argue a -6 rSB for Montero is good. I do ask though, how well does Kyle Hendricks hold runners? If he holds runners well, would that give Montero a chance to throw someone out. Isn’t like 70-80% of SB prevention responsibility assigned to the pitcher?
I see the holes in my argument, but I don’t think my post was outlandish.
Start Contreras and if Lester does come in double switch him to left and Zobrist to right. They could always start Almora in right or Coglan to make sure Heyward is available later in the game or to replace Ross and move Contreras back to Catcher when Lester exits the game. the Cubs have so many GOOD options it’s crazy.
This is what I was thinking but the you take Heywards defense out and replace it with a worse defender. This is the only way to keep Contreras and Zobrist in the game. What I think will happen is Madden will just tell Lester to suck it up and pitch to Contreras
Almora really isn’t as big of a drop off as the other options are…. Though Madden hasn’t used him much at all in the series.
This seems incredibly kind to Contreras’ ability behind the plate. He might someday be an average receiver/blocker but right now he isn’t. He’s bad.
Contreras right now can’t be trusted to keep aggressive breaking balls in front of him. I know official scorers err on the side of ‘wild pitch’ but I haven’t seen a single ball get by Contreras that I would put on the pitcher. Ross allows his pitchers to throw any pitch, in any count regardless of baserunners. Contreras does not do that right now.
I don’t know which FG writer used the phrase but Joe Maddon being “Too cute by half” has perfectly described his decision-making to this point. I hope Ross is behind the plate to start and through Lester, only pulled for a high leverage AB if the situation calls and Chapman is in the game, and Heyward is in RF all game.
He seems to be okay at blocking, he over does his framming though making it much too obvious
I think I heard on the radio Ross has barely caught Hendricks. Doesn’t that put him at a disadvantage of calling for Hendricks. Contreras knows Hendricks, when he’s on and off, the shape of his pitches, etc. That alone would mean start Contreras over Ross, and THEN you factor in the small bump in offense, and I would think that overcomes whatever gap there is between them defensively.
With how long Ross has been around and how good of a game caller he is it would not be a disadvantage, the disadvantage is with a bat in his hand
Going back to your post way back in 2014 below, Jeff, shouldn’t Ross be able to help Hendricks get a few extra strikes by being one of the best framers in the game or is that just a benefit Lester gets with him on called strikes?
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I think we’re overestimating the likelihood that this is an issue. Starting Contreras and Hendricks and bringing in Ross in the 6th or whenever Hendricks is done means that Contreras gets 2 PA and Ross finishes the game. The miniscule possibility that Montero will have to PH for Ross and then get injured, forcing Schwarber or someone even more ridiculous to catch doesn’t seem worth worrying about in pre-game planning.
Fwiw, I do believe that Baez is the emergency catcher.
You want to leverage everyone’s skills. You want to make sure that Ross bats as little as possible and only against a LHP (say, Miller) even if he catches Lester. At the same time you want to use Lester against more lefties AND more importantly if Lester allows a base runner who is likely to steal you want to get him out of the game! No pitcher, no matter how good his pitching is, can fade an extra base by a runner, which is worth around .25 runs.
Also as many people have pointed out Ross is much the better defender (mostly in the framing department) so the overall difference between Ross and Contreras is much less than the difference in their offense. As well you can minimize the difference in offense by batting Ross lower Contreras in the batting order. Again, leveraging skills!
All that being said, using my simulator, the actual difference between Ross and Contreras playing the entire game is almost 2% in win expectancy which is a lot. If Ross catches Lester for 2 innings and has to bat that is around a loss of .4% in win expectancy which isn’t much. Lester would have to be around .36 runs per 9 innings better with Ross behind the plate rather than Contreras to justify using Ross.
Just saying…