The Blue Jays and Slugging Toward October
I think I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again: while most of us understand that the gambler’s fallacy is a fallacy, sometimes it’s easy to see why so many people believe in it. In the case of this post, take the Blue Jays. Through the season’s first two months, they had the third-worst record in the American League, and a contender-worthy run differential. It seemed, at that point, like better times were ahead. But instead of things playing evenly from there, the Jays have simply ripped off 11 straight wins, rocketing back into the playoff picture. Barely any time ago, the Jays and Red Sox were battling for possession of not-last place in the AL East. This quickly, the Jays are back on their feet, and the Red Sox are a disaster.
I don’t have a hot take. My hottest take might be this: the Jays aren’t a true-talent 162-0 team. Winning streaks are easy for analysts because we always get to know for a fact the given team is overachieving. But there’s no better time than now to review what the Jays have done, and to evaluate where they now stand. The situation has changed in a jiffy. Even their own front office is probably trying to catch up.
It’s kind of funny to look at the Jays’ schedule. Obviously, over their last 11 games, they’re 11-0, and they’ve allowed 40 runs. Over the 11 previous games, they were 5-6, and they allowed 42 runs. Offensively speaking, they went from scoring 53 times in an 11-game stretch to scoring 88 times in the next 11-game stretch, and that’s where the difference has been, but then there’s been almost no change in walks, or strikeouts, or power. It’s been all about singles and timing. That’s how a decent team can build an impressive hot streak: advantageous sequencing. The 5-6 Jays and the 11-0 Jays haven’t been real different. I can’t tell if that’s supposed to be positive or negative; it just is.
Despite the streak, the Jays still aren’t in first place. They’re not even in second place, now that I look at it. When this thing started, the Jays were five games back. After seven consecutive wins, they were still four games back. They’ve gained more ground since, but it’s easy to look at the standings and see that they’re still looking up. But the standings can mislead. A better alternative to glancing at the standings: glancing at the playoff odds. And here’s what’s happened, league-wide, since the start of June:
Even that doesn’t fully capture things — the winning streak started in the second game of a doubleheader, and I can’t get the playoff odds from in between games one and two. But while Toronto remains in third place in the East, they’ve gained massive ground in the playoff hunt. The Pirates are in second place, here, and their gain has been less than half of the Jays’. Much of the East has been playing well lately, but no one’s played better than Toronto, and they’ve also benefited from teams in other divisions dropping off. I mean, it helps the rest of the East to have the Red Sox suck, but it also helps to have the Mariners sinking.
That plot is what Toronto has accomplished. It’s not that an extended winning streak is predictive, but it’s all about games in the bank, and Toronto has just about evened out. They are still two wins below their estimated BaseRuns record, but there’s a funny twist on that — their run differential is also substantially higher than their BaseRuns run differential. That plot:
Pretty much all of this is because of the offense, where the Jays have outpaced their BaseRuns productivity by nearly a half-run a game. This is all just looking back, so to sum up, in some ways the Jays have been lucky, and in other ways the Jays have been unlucky. Things are a lot more balanced now than they were just a couple weeks ago.
Teams always need to be looking forward. Looking forward, what are the Jays? Are they the team with baseball’s best run differential? Conveniently, we sort of reviewed this a week ago. Early-season standings and performance matter, but they matter less than even the preseason projections do. And we have updated information. Based on that information, the Blue Jays look like a pretty decent team, but not a dominant team. They’re projected to win 52% of their remaining games, with baseball’s highest rate of runs scored per game, and baseball’s third-highest rate of runs allowed per game.
Which shouldn’t be shocking. The offense is obviously potent, even without Devon Travis and Michael Saunders, and even with Edwin Encarnacion and Jose Bautista fighting little aches and pains. There’s been perhaps no better addition in baseball than Josh Donaldson, followed closely behind on the same list by Russell Martin. Meanwhile, people have been down on the pitching staff for months. Sadly, the pitcher the Jays could use most is already on Toronto payroll, rehabbing an ACL tear.
In a sense, the Jays and Red Sox aren’t too dissimilar. Neither team has an ace, rolling instead with adequate pitchers, hoping along the way for sufficient offensive support. Difference is, the Jays have gotten that offensive support, while the Sox have struggled in every area, and that’s why one team’s in the race and the other one has a mess to untangle. They came in with similar plans. The Jays are proving the model can work. The Sox are proving the model has flaws.
While Boston, though, can work out what it wants to do differently in 2016, Toronto now gets to focus on playing well enough up to the trade deadline. A few weeks ago, I was trying to find potential homes for a Johnny Cueto/Aroldis Chapman package, and I settled on the Jays. Problem was, at that point, they weren’t playing well. Now they’ve made a full recovery, making this the trade I most want to see. I know that isn’t analysis, and I know the Reds are reluctant to give up, but I can’t imagine better fits, and from Toronto’s perspective, this team with those arms is a championship contender. It’s already mathematically a championship contender, but now imagine them eliminating two gaping holes.
The fun of the winning streak will end one of these days. Maybe it’ll even be followed by a losing streak. Things happen. The consequences of the winning streak, though, might last into the playoffs. In 11 games, the Jays got back into the picture. They get to focus on the moment again, and on the moments that’ll follow. They get to think about getting better now, because this is a team worth improving, because this is a team that could do something big.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.


If only Stroman and Travis were healthy 🙁
Maybe we’d all be dead!
Does Norris, Reid Foley and Castro get Cueto and Chapman?
Nope
Daniel Norris, Jeff Hoffman, and Max Pentecost would get the job done.
Please no.
Good as Cueto is he’s a rental. Look at what Greinke got back in a deal. You’re getting one top 50 prospect and that’s it.
If Jeff Hoffman is included, yes, it does.
Norris or Reid Foley (not both), Castro and a middling prospect or two.
Remember Cueto’s elbow issues will mitigate the cost somewhat…
nope. Cueto’s a rental, he’s gonna cost. The elbow scare has passed, and if he’s pitching well in July you better believe he’ll be well sought after.
i think that is close. a top 50 prospect, another top 100, and an honorable mention kind of guy
yeah seems like the ballpark.
I think they could pry out one of the A kids (sanchez/norris/hoffman/osuna/pompey), one of the B kids (pentecost/castro/harris/alford/urena), and then one or two more C guys.
Hurray!
I really love the way you close out all your articles.
Cincinnati hosts the AS game this year. The Reds are unlikely to trade anyone until after the AS game on 07/14 (don’t want your hometown heroes coming back wearing a different hat). So the Jays (and everyone else for that matter) will have to get by without Cueto/Champman (Leake?) until that time, which is like a month away. If I were a team in need of pitching, I’d send my GM down to the AS game this year and get in the Reds’ ear.
I think we’re at the point now where neither of those dudes would be on the AL All-Star team if traded (as I’m assuming, since they’re both pitchers, that the selection process will focus on guys who played well in the AL to that point?.
“eliminating two gaping holes”
Oh Sullivan
Meanwhile Cole Hamels withers away in Phillie while Amaro asks the moon.
I thought Hamels invoked his popular “Don’t trade me to Toronto” clause that appears in many contracts.
rumors only.
and of course, back then he thought he might be traded to a “contender” in boston, which might have been more attractive than a supposed “non contender” in canuckistan.
iirc the jays did the same thing last year at around the same time in the season. they ripped off like a 15-2 run or something ridiculous like that then did nothing the rest of the season.
jays are going well right now but they cant keep scoring 8 runs a game which will be a problem since their pitchers are pretty much guaranteed to give up 4-5 runs a game.
cueto and chapman are interesting but a hamels/papelbon combo might be better. they’re probably cheaper to acquire and cheaper in terms of salary (presumably jays would try to keep cueto which would cost more) and just as, if not more effective. with buehrles’ contract running out after this year, the freed money can go to hamels’ existing salary and we can keep hamels as a lefty in the rotation.
agree that hamels/paps might be a better fit in many ways….the multi year contracts are affordable and an asset for the jays who don’t always have luck signing free agents and have a core similar aged as those two with a similar window….and even while somewhat of an asset those contracts might still lower the prospect cost of getting them compared to rentals.
Oh no jeff!…. you write a great article about my jays and i’m enjoying reading it…..but then you taint it with a needless justification of the red sox’ offseason performance that has nothing to do with the jays:
“In a sense, the Jays and Red Sox aren’t too dissimilar. Neither team has an ace, rolling instead with adequate pitchers, hoping along the way for sufficient offensive support. Difference is, the Jays have gotten that offensive support, while the Sox have struggled in every area, and that’s why one team’s in the race and the other one has a mess to untangle. They came in with similar plans. The Jays are proving the model can work. The Sox are proving the model has flaws.”
There’s an obvious reason why the Jays are proving this model can work while the sox are failing.
Here’s how the two teams’ position players have performed over last season and this season:
2014-15:
(numbers in brackets are WAR per 650pa)
3B Donald’: 138wrc+, 10.3war (6.9) — 2B Pedroia: 109wrc+, 6.1war (4.4)
RF Bautista: 154wrc+, 8.0war (5.7) — 3B Sandoval: 107wrc+, 3.1war (2.4)
C Martin: 143wrc+, 7.8war (7.4) —– CF Betts: 105wrc+, 2.9war (4.0)
DH En’cion: 138wrc+, 4.1war (3.4) — LF Ramirez: 130wrc+, 2.9war (2.5)
SS Reyes: 103wrc+, 4.1war (3.3) —– DH Ortiz: 123wrc+, 2.3war (1.8)
LF Saunders: 116wrc+, 1.9war (4.1) — 1B Napoli: 112wrc+, 2.3war (2.1)
2B Travis: 134wrc+, 1.4war (6.2) —- SS Bogaerts: 87wrc+, 1.8war (1.4)
CF Pillar: 82wrc+, 1.4war (2.4) —– C Hanigan: 93wrc+, 1.6war (3.2)
1B Smoak: 95wrc+, 0.4war (0.7) —— RF Victorino: 96wrc+, 0.5war (1.6)
UT Valencia: 99wrc+, 1.2war (2.1) — UT Nava: 89wrc+, 2.3war (3.1)
OF Carrera: 84wrc+, 0.9war (3.7) —- OF Castillo: 93wrc+, 0.9war (5.4)
IF Tolleson: 94wrc+, 0.2war (0.6) — IF Holt: 105wrc+, 3.6war (3.6)
C Navarro: 94wrc+, 1.8war (2.1) —– C Vazquez: 71wrc+, 0.7war (2.3)
UT Colab’o: 110wrc+, -0.7war (-1.2) – UT Craig: 64wrc+, -2.1war (-2.4)
OF Pompey: 79wrc+, 0.3war (1.5) —– OF Bradley: 44wrc+, 0.3war (0.5)
IF Goins: 46wrc+, -0.4war (-0.7) —- IF Bianchi: 0wrc+, -0.7war (-6.0)
C Thole: 75wrc+, 0.0war (0.0) ——- C Swihart: 53wrc+, 0.2war (1.2)
The reason for the difference is simple – the Jays have much much better position players than the Sox. Of course the model will work better with better players. Any model will.
stahp logic! STAHP!
Hey fdop
Ha!
banter Boyz!
Trade for Kennedy and Benoit from Padres will cost you less in monies and prospects
As a die hard Jays fan, the problems with this team are still around and have just been covered up by a bunch of runs against sub-par pitching. Other than Scherzer I think the 2nd best pitcher they faced on this win streak was Collin McHugh. This win streak was pretty reminiscent of the jays 10 game win streak two years ago. Muscle out a bunch of runs against mostly the #4,5 and spot starters of struggling teams. Let me know when they can hit # 1& 2 guys consistently
you think they’re scoring 22% more runs than the 2nd best offense (TEX) because of weak oppo pitching?
It’s part of the equation for sure. They are averaging 8 runs but the standard deviation of runs scored must be quite high.
When we face a quality pitching the Blue Jays offense isn’t much better than average.
Yesterday for example: against syndergaard 2 runs in 9 (+1 in extra)innings. I’m expecting similar today against Matt Harvey. They’ve been shutdown 2 times by Chris Archer& 2 x Ubaldo Jiminez, shutout by Zimmerman, shutdown by king felix, Hector Santiago. Pitchers having good years haven’t had any additional trouble against our offense.
There’s a reason why this team is 1-6 vs the Rays this year. With the lone win coming against erasmo Ramirez.
you criticize for losing to syndergaard while ignoring that they destroyed the equally impressive rodriguez just the game prior.
of the top 30 war pitchers in mlb, the jays have clobbered kluber kuechel carrasco may and buchholz (x2).
Amazing how obsessed FG are with Michael Saunders…who has never in his career played more than 139 games in a season (3 years ago) and was traded to one of two turf stadiums left in the game. Career 91 wRC+, underwhelming power. His good year was recent so you can make a weak argument for him…but I don’t see it worthy of bringing him up all the time.
last 3yrs, from ages 25-27, he’s posted a 109wrc+ and averaged 2.0war in only 116gms per season.
Basically in his prime he’s turned into a solidly above average hitting 3war pace type player, but with major injury concerns.