The Cardinals Need to Deliver on Their Plan A
A year ago, the Cardinals and Marlins agreed to a trade that would have sent Giancarlo Stanton to St. Louis. Stanton exercised the no-trade clause in his contract, and ended up with the Yankees instead. The Cardinals continued to engage the Marlins, likely preferring eventual NL MVP Christian Yelich, but ending up instead with Marcell Ozuna, as he was who the Marlins made available at the time. Trading for Ozuna made sense, as waiting for Yelich carried the risk of him not becoming available at all. Most Cardinals moves make sense. But Ozuna was not the Cardinals’ first choice, and the trade likely wasn’t even Plan B. Last winter was not the first time St. Louis missed out on its top choice and resorted to lesser options. If they opt to do so again, they risk missing the postseason for a fourth straight year despite not having a losing season.
Let’s review. The winter of 2016 saw potential trade targets in Adam Eaton and Charlie Blackmon go unacquired; the Cardinals signed Dexter Fowler right after the Eaton trade. Three years ago, the team famously missed out on David Price and Jason Heyward and ended up with Mike Leake.
Ozuna struggled with shoulder problems most of the season, which limited his defense and eliminated the power surge that made him a very good player the season before. The Cardinals jettisoned Leake in the middle of 2017 and had to give the Mariners $17.5 million to do so. Fowler put up a solid 2017 but followed it up with a miserable 2018 that brought his two-year WAR total with St. Louis down to 1.3. He’s owed roughly $50 million over the next three years and would require a similar buyout to the one that sent Leake to Seattle in order to be traded. And those were the good Cardinals free agent signings. The club has used some of its payroll room and guaranteed around $56 million to Luke Gregerson, Greg Holland, and Brett Cecil, and received a 5.62 ERA and 0.4 WAR in 137.2 combined innings from that trio.
Knowing only the information in the paragraph above might lead one to conclude the Cardinals are in awful shape. They aren’t. Instead, the club is awash in cromulence that just needs some embiggening. It’s still very early in the offseason, but the initial Depth Chart projections have the Cardinals at 38.1 WAR, ninth-best in baseball and fourth in the National League. There’s talent to be added through free agency or trades, but right now, the Cardinals have a roster that projects for about 85 wins. When we look at how that roster is assembled, we see a lot of good and very little great. The table below shows the Cardinals’ projected starters, with projected team WAR by position and the MLB ranking at that position.
| Position | Starter | Team WAR | Rank |
|---|---|---|---|
| C | Yadier Molina | 3.3 | 7 |
| 1B | Matt Carpenter | 2.7 | 7 |
| 2B | Kolten Wong | 2.9 | 7 |
| SS | Paul DeJong | 3.5 | 9 |
| 3B | Jedd Gyorko | 2.5 | 22 |
| LF | Marcell Ozuna | 3.8 | 2 |
| CF | Harrison Bader | 2.5 | 12 |
| RF | Jose Martinez | 2.0 | 16 |
The Cardinals pitching staff ranks 15th. No starter is projected for more than three wins but there are no obvious holes at the bottom of the rotation either, with Alex Reyes, Michael Wacha, Adam Wainwright, Luke Weaver, and John Gant representing depth after Miles Mikolas, Carlos Martinez, and Jack Flaherty. Fowler and Tyler O’Neill represent quality backups in the outfield with Yairo Munoz playing the same role in the infield. What’s clear from above, and what has been the obvious problem for the Cardinals for a while, is that upgrading from average is difficult. Projections see Ozuna’s 2018 as an unfortunate blip, but even if he recovers and meets his projection, he still sits on the outside of the top-30 position players in baseball.
It’s obvious the Cardinals lack a star performer, and also obvious that it’s difficult to find that level of player. And that brings us to Josh Donaldson, who just signed a very reasonable (I’d say a bargain) $23 million, one-year deal with the Braves. Here’s what Dan Szymborski said in his elegy for the Cardinals earlier this month.
The Cardinals are a hard team to upgrade in that they’re just so solid in most places. The starting lineup is deep enough that, outside of Dexter Fowler, they really need to be exciting to justify the term. Taking a chance on Josh Donaldson is one of those moves that does have interesting upside, but the rest of the market’s second-tier should be rather uninteresting, at least as it concerns the lineup. It may seem a stretch for St. Louis to spend more than twice what they’ve ever spent on a player contract, but remember, they were a team connected with Giancarlo Stanton, and reportedly made a significant offer to David Price when the pitcher was a free agent.
Dan is right about a bunch of things in the above paragraph, but particularly about the market’s second tier. Mike Moustakas doesn’t upgrade the Cardinals meaningfully. Neither would Michael Brantley or Andrew McCutchen, and if they wanted A.J. Pollock, they could’ve just kept Tommy Pham. Donaldson was mentioned by Dan and others as a Cardinals possibility because he would have been an upgrade; that the Cardinals reportedly made a play for him only serves to enhance their reputation as second-place finishers in free agency.
I’m not inclined to give the Cardinals the benefit of the doubt on their offseason plans, but I will acknowledge that part of the reason Donaldson seemed like a good fit for the team was because, despite his upside, he looks an awful lot like the Plan B you settle for after Plan A fizzles out. An aging player needing a rebound on a one-year deal is a Lance Berkman/Carlos Beltran move the Cardinals have made before. Donaldson is in a tier below players like Manny Machado and Bryce Harper because of his age and injury history. And so if I were to give the Cardinals the benefit of the doubt and assume this winter will somehow be different, I might view the decision not to aggressively pursue a good Donaldson deal as a clear indicator he was not part of Plan A to which they are in fact committed.
It’s clear the Cardinals will have to actually deliver on their preferred plan this offseason if they are going to get back to the playoffs; the rest of the potential outcomes are not particularly appealing. Right now, the club is the same 4-5 games behind the Cubs that they have been for a year. Even if they added a valuable player like Paul Goldschmidt, who some have speculated would be a good fit, they would still need to do more to put themselves ahead of Chicago, regardless of the moves Theo Epstein and Co. make (or don’t) this offseason. Goldschmidt would be a free agent at the end of next year, along with Ozuna, Mikolas, and Wacha, which puts the team in a real bind to compete in 2020 if the Arizona first basemen was the only major addition.
If the team were to add a rental like Goldschmidt, it becomes even more important to add the best player available to maximize the current window. Few expect the Cardinals will actually land Harper given their past and his other potential suitors, but the Cardinals’ president (and owner’s son) acknowledged the possibility to Derrick Goold. It’s worth noting the last time the Cardinals won the bidding war for a premier free agent, it was for a Scott Boras client four years older than Harper. Matt Holliday’s $17 million per year salary equates to $30 million when MLB’s payroll inflation is taken into account. Holliday lived up to his deal and was a big part of one of the most successful runs in franchise history, with five playoff appearances in seven seasons along with two World Series appearances and one title. The team hasn’t been the same since his bat left two years ago. If the Cardinals don’t make Harper (or Machado) a reality, it’s difficult to see them breaking out of the cycle of good-but-not-good-enough they’ve found themselves in the past three seasons. The moderate move has hamstrung the Cardinals, so now they’re being pushed to make the risky one. It’s called the winner’s curse for good reason, but when the alternatives are lacking, putting all your eggs in a single basket may be the only way to carry them.
Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.
So it’s time to trade Yadi for Trout straight up is what you’re saying?
Only if the Angels throw in Ohtani.
So here’s the question I have: How important is Matt Carpenter to the Cardinals’ plans? Because they’re dealing with the Cubs and Brewers at their peak, so if they want to make a push while Matt Carpenter is still under contract for a while, they can do that by trading for 1-year players this offseason and the next one like Goldschmidt is this year.
On the other hand, this is a team that has a truly exciting number of players under contract for a while (deJong, Bader, a good chunk of the rotation). If so, then it makes more sense to try and package up as much value as they can for a guy under control for 2 or 3 years like Syndergaard or a starter from Cleveland. Yeah, they’ll cost way more, but that’s okay. The team has depth to spare.
For this reason, I would also say that Machado and Harper make more sense–it balances both short- and long-term value. I suspect the Cards and Nationals are going to be the high bidders on Harper, simply because they’re the only teams that look like they’re willing to guy that high on a player and don’t have as much use for Machado (since they both have good SS).
as someone who grew up near STL, Harper doesn’t seem to fit “Cardinal Way”.
they absolutely should acquire him. but if they do, the reaction from fans is going to be hilarious.
idk if he doesn’t fit the original “Cardinal way” though. As in, competitive grinder types. Matheny warped it into something weird and obnoxious.
I can assure you Cardinals fans will be THRILLED if they sign Harper. Yes, some take the “Cardinal Way” (god do I hate that phrase) to favor sturdy, self-effacing TCB types, but Cards fans (all fans really) tend to love fervid max-effort guys like Harper. And for a franchise that used to crank out superstars with some regularity (Ozzie, McGwire, Pujols, Edmonds, etc.) the city is starved for someone like Harper.
I’m sure that many fans would be thrilled.
Speaking as a Cardinal fan myself, I do not want Harper, not at anything more than $25M per year. He’s been a 4.5 fWAR player for his career, and 4 WAR at B-Ref.
This means that if he is supplanting a 2 WAR player in the outfield, he is only going to be adding 2-2.5 wins per year. And a team at St. Louis’ player payroll level cannot pay more than $10-12M per wins on the open market. They need to be more efficient. If they want to go big, they should wait for Trout in two years. Even at $55-60M per year, he might be a relative bargain.
One other thing is I can’t accept the premise that St. Louis MUST add any offense in the first place. They were 4th in the N.L. in runs per game at 4.7, and played in a nasty pitcher’s park. (Their road OPS was 67 points higher than at home, and second only to the Dodgers in the N.L. road OPS.) Moreover, they scored 5.1 runs per game over the second half, after dumping their crap hitting coach, John Mabry.
Any offense can be improved upon, at any time. But this team has one real *need*, and that’s the bullpen. Last in the N.L. in Win Probability Added in 2018. Third from last in ERA. Awful first half, awful second half, and a 5.09 September ERA. They NEED an overhaul in the bullpen, not a star bat.
I understand your point, but if they don’t spend it on Harper or Machado, what do you think they’re going to do with it? In other words, why do you care how big Harper’s contract is going to be?
And yes, a bunch of stats that show the Cardinals were actually good last year. Shame there’s no runs-per-game World Series, I guess. You know who doesn’t mention stats like those? Fans of teams who made it to the post season.
Is that true that a bunch of stats show the Cards were actually good last year? Their Pythag record was the same as their actual record, and their 3rd-order record was only 83-79. I mean, sure, there are stats (some mentioned by Neils-Henning) that give reason for optimism going forward, but big picture, the Cards are squarely in that tier of good-but-not-great teams that could benefit by going all-in.
Well they don’t HAVE to spend all of it over the winter. But I’d like to see them go hard after Yusei Kikuchi, at roughly $12-14M per year. Then I’d leverage most of the remaining “Harper Money” by taking on bad contracts from Baltimore or Detroit or Minnesota or Arizona, in exchange for quality relievers like Taylor Rogers, Mychal Givens, Yoan Lopez, Andrew Chafin, Paul Fry, Joe Jimenez. Maybe Caleb Frare from the White Sox.
Of course, St. Louis would also be trading prospects, and perhaps born-to-DH Jose Martinez, in the deal, not just taking on payroll. And mind you, they wouldn’t be absorbing any massive Chris Davis type bad contracts, just a couple of short-term, $8M-to-$10M dead weight players.
Save the last $5-10M of the Harper Money for midseason moves as needs arise. And as implied earlier, don’t take on any contract that extends beyond two years (other than Kikuchi of course) so that you can be all-in on the Mike Trout bidding after 2020.
For the umpteenth time, “the Cardinal way” is a phrase associated with George Kissell and his methods for Cardinals player development. It has nothing to do with character or morality or the Cardinals being more virtuous than everybody else. Of course the phrase has been misinterpreted by many baseball fans, especially Cardinals fans, as you just proved. The response of fans from other teams is, reasonably enough, contempt for the “BFIB.” Can’t say I blame ’em.
I don’t think MCarp should influence their plans that much. He’s 32, and projected to provide 3.0 fWAR next year. I think the organization sees its weak spots, which I don’t think Craig’s chart illustrates very well. Next year, the most Right Field production is projected to come from Jose Martinez (1.5 fWAR), and for Third Base from Jedd Gyorko (1.7 fWAR). Upgrades at those positions would provide the greatest opportunity for improvement. (My understanding is Machado has said he’ll sign for Third Base)
There is probably not that great of a differrence btw/ the long and short term for those spots. Machado and Harper will probably have opt-outs. If they trade for Goldschmidt, it would be probably be with an eye towards trying to sign him (which might mean MCarp’s option for 2020 isn’t exercised) and I don’t think a one-year deal for Donaldson was the Card’s preference, but they were willing to work with it to some extent.
“…the club is awash in cromulence that just needs some embiggening.”
What????? ?
Craig received a dictionary for his birthday.
Just Cistulli’s leftover ectoplasm. Scrub the place with some salt and all will be well.
A more thoughtful and efficient gift would be to offer to pay a month of Craig’s internet bill.
I keep clicking but nothing embiggens. Keep Craigstulli.
It’s a line from an early-2000’s “Simpsons” episode.
Cromulence and embiggen are both words from a simpsons’ episode that have made their way into normal parlance. They were used often on vivaelbirdos.com where Craig used to write.
So, neither cromulence nor embiggening appear at dictionary.com. I also got the red squiggly line typing those words here. Dictionary.com does, however, have the word crapulent which apparently means “sick from gross excess in drinking or eating”.
Sounds like you need to find a more cromulent dictionary…
Funny you mention crapulence because the simpsons uses that word in a pretty famous scene also
I don’t know that I follow what the implied Plan A is. Harper? Machado?
It’s one or both of them. Nothing else makes sense.
Plan A is landing a top tier bat. One way or another.
Last year that meant Stanton. This year that means Harper or Machado.
Or equivalent.
Problem is those are few and far between and in high demand.
They may have to go with “or equivalent”.
If they are 15th in pitching, they may end up adding a top pitcher or two to upgrade there.
I would argue Machado is the better option for them, but Bryce the more likely to sign (though neither are probably likely at all). Finger’s crossed for Bryce to land in STL though. I’m not a Cardinal fan but live very close to the stadium.
I’d say Bumgarner should be their “1A” to Goldy on the rental trade market. I realize the Cards need a big bat more than anything, but they could also use a lefty starter. And really, Craig’s right that the primary problem is the Cards’ failure to add great players. I realize Bumgarner’s stuff took a dip last year, but he’s only a rental, so the Cards can see for themselves whether he’s worth an extension.
trading for Bumgarner only makes sense if the Cardinals trade current rotation pieces for an elite bat
gotta have a lefty starter around for all those times the other manager decides to go with an all-lefty lineup
Or maybe just to give teams a different look and take advantage of teams that don’t hit lefties well? Its hardly a new concept.
old baseball concept = no reason at all to second guess it. for sure.
Another Craig Edwards Cardinals puff piece.
Gruff piece. Snuff piece. Fluff piece. Tough piece. Rough piece. Muff piece. Cuff piece. Buff piece. Stuff piece.
Enough “piece.”
Huh, Maybe we don’t have any old readers here.
The Cardinals have been half-assing things for years and, predictably, they’ve been getting half-assed results. Their failure to take risks with significant upsides has resulted in a team that’s perfectly fine – and also boring and pretty mediocre. If the Cards want to get better then they need to remember the old proverb about the turtle who can only move forward if he sticks his neck out.
The risk they’ve failed to take over the past 2-3 years is to trust their own internal options. Instead they’ve invested $165M in Leake, Fowler, Holland, Cecil, and Gregerson, and received in return a grand total of less than 1 WAR (B-Ref WAR).
If they’d signed Scherzer, it would have worked out great. Unhappy Cardinal fans cite Scherzer at every opportunity. But Price would not have worked out well for St. Louis not at ~$30M per year. Heyward has been more or less a disaster economically for Chicago. Even the attempted Stanton trade wouldn’t look so hot right now. They’re certainly lucky that Pujols didn’t stick around.
I want them to keep making the small, smart moves like the Jay-for-Gyorko trade, and the signings of Final Boss and Miles Mikolas. The proper path now? Get Yusei Kikuchi (for rotation or bullpen, however it shakes out in Spring Training), trade for 2 or 3 relievers, release Cecil, Gregerson, and Fowler, install Tyler O’Neill in right field, and it’s a roster on par with the Brewers and Cubs.
Most fans aren’t fans of team economics, though.
It’s not so much economics as risk management: high floor vs high ceiling.
Most high ceiling players are high risk early on.
High ceiling/high certainty players are a rarity.
Even Trout started out as a “not-so-sure” thing.
Cardinals have done well in developing a deep cadre of good players but that only gets you so far. You also need a few great ones.
That requires luck which requires taking chances.
“Cardinals have done well in developing a deep cadre of good players but that only gets you so far. You also need a few great ones.
That requires luck which requires taking chances.”
Bingo. They consistently make the safe choice. That will build you a good team, like the one they have. It will not build you a very good team or a great team.
Bader, DeJong, and O’Neill have combined for 1,594 MLB plate appearances and 11.3 Fangraphs WAR. (Their WAR totals at B-Ref and BPro are both bigger, but let’s go with the most modest estimate of their talent.)
That 11.3 WAR in 1,594 PA’s works out to 4.3 WAR/600 for three position players age 23-25. So maybe they already have a great player or two. Or near-great anyway.
I’m not convinced that a team, any team, has to “take chances” to be more than merely good. If you draft well, identify the international amateurs well, develop the domestic and int’l kids well, and trade well, you’ll win a ton of games — as evidenced by St. Louis’ post-Pujols run from 2012-2015, when they averaged 94 wins.
Since then, two things dragged them down.
(1)Counterproductive free agent signings, and (2)Their hitting coach consistently undermining their young developing hitters like Adams, Wong, Piscotty, Grichuk, and Diaz by instilling a bad plate approach of “aggressive guessing” when ahead in the count.
Rather than using the count to their advantage and offering only at pitches in their hot zones, young Cardinal hitters actually became less selective when ahead in the count. They ASSUMED that 2-0 pitches would be fastballs, or down the middle, or both. They each gave away dozens of AB’s a year by swinging at bad pitches when ahead in the count. That pattern ended in July with the firing of John Mabry.
After Mabry’s firing, the runs per game increased from 4.4 to 5.1 over the rest of the season. And this, despite a much tougher schedule over the second half in terms of opponent ERA. Blame Matheny if you prefer, or even asst. hitting coach Bill Mueller, but however we want to parse the blame, the bad approach is dead, and a standard boring professional approach of “shrink the zone when ahead in the count” will work wonders. It already has.
Playing O’Neill over Fowler probably gains them at least one win there. He’s owed $14. 5 million each of the next three years, so rather than simply release him, it seems like it would be worth it to agree to pay half to whomever will take him off their hands (and to a team Fowler will waive his NTC for).
I agree that they need to go big, but it’s not entirely up to them. If the player doesn’t want to go to St. Louis, what can they do? I’m a Cards homer, so even though I think the BFIB thing is absurd, I assumed St. Louis was a primo place to play baseball. It took Stanton blocking his trade for me to realize that it’s not. Heyward also chose Chicago over St. Louis when the money was essentially equal.
Now, I don’t know much about Machado, but Harper totally seems like he prefers the big city. If the money is essentially equal, is he gonna choose St. Louis? If not, how much will St. Louis have to overpay by? And when you’re getting into that kind of contract, how far can you really stretch? Boston trumped St. Louis’ offer to Price by $30mm in order to guarantee getting him. There’s no way St. Louis can offer the most money + add a dozen or two million more dollars.
I think it’s more likely that they go big in their bullpen. They’ll add a few guys out of the grouping of Ottavino, Andrew Miller, Tony Sipp, Familia, Jesse Chavez, Zach Britton, etc, but they won’t be in on Kimbrel. There’s plenty of decent arms to make their bullpen a force, and it shouldn’t cost a ton. Maybe they’ll trade a few of their many young starters to get Goldschmidt. Goldschmidt moves Carpenter to third, adding a couple of WAR to the team. The bullpen upgrades add a WAR, maybe two.
That might be enough, but there should be enough money left to acquire a starter. Wacha, Mikolas, and Wainwright are gone after 2019, so getting a starter makes sense. Corbin would make St. Louis a force, but that’s probably too rich for them. Eovaldi or Keuchel would be reasonable signings.
Harper + bullpen help would be easier and more of a splash, but who knows if Harper even wants to sign with St. Louis? And there’s been absolutely no rumors about Machado and St. Louis, so we can probably count that out.
Why wouldn’t a player want to play in St. Louis? Because it lacks a fabulous night life? Because it’s not L.A. or New York? Heck, at least it’s not Philadelphia or Pittsburgh.
Good money is good money wherever you make it.
You would think, but I gave a couple of examples of players not wanting to go to St. Louis. Harper will probably take the offer that gives him the most money, but if the highest offers are within $10mm of each other, I can’t imagine that he chooses St. Louis over LA or New York or even Philly. And in his shoes, I don’t blame him — $350mm and a fantastic place to live must be loads better than $360mm and living in a mediocre, dying city. And I live in STL, so I’m not just pooping on it without experiencing it.
There is a lot of endorsement money to be made off local businesses in NYC and LA. So if money is the top priority, smaller market teams have to outbid the complete package, not just the team contract.
Other concerns are things like weather, distance from “home”, and the team’s competitive positioning. (Immediately competitive or in final phases of rebuilding vs back end of a competitive window.)
One example: Today there was a report that Patrick Corbin’s family wants him to sign with the Yankees so he’ll be close to them and not a continent away.
I am guessing people who didn’t grow up watching The Simpsons are running to Dictionary.com after reading this….
As a Cubs fan, I admittedly reveled in the fact Heyward signed with the Cubs for a lower guarantee than the Cardinals had offered. O how wrong I was to revel
He thought the Cubs had the better roster and the better 7-year outlook and he wasn’t wrong. Obviously, he hasn’t performed up to his contract, but it didn’t cost you that World Series, and the fact that he made that decision is evidence of the health of the franchise, which still has a younger and more talented core.
Miles Mikolas had a superb year.
Without him,they would have been a 500. ball club.