The Jay Bruce Defensive Metrics Test

Jay Bruce is going to be traded. That’s a near-certainty. He’s the only player on this year’s market to be (almost) traded not once, but twice by the team for which he still plays. The rumors have been persisting for more than a year now. Bruce is in the last guaranteed year of his contract, the Reds were never in contention, and he’s rebuilt his value with a great first half at the plate. Already, we’ve heard Bruce linked again to the Blue Jays, alongside the Indians, Nationals, Dodgers, and others. It will be an upset if he finishes the season wearing a Cincinnati uniform.

That much about Jay Bruce, we can be confident. We can be confident that he’s been a good hitter in the past, we can be confident that he’s been a good hitter in the present, and we can be confident that he’s likely to be moved within the next month. There exists an area of Bruce’s story that’s far more murky, though, and one’s perception of that area of Bruce’s game goes a long way towards one’s evaluation of Bruce. Despite a 120 wRC+ this season, Bruce has been worth 0.0 WAR, according to our calculations and 0.4 WAR by Baseball-Reference’s, and that’s all due to his defensive numbers.

The defensive numbers hate Jay Bruce this year. Ultimate Zone Rating calls him the season’s worst defensive right fielder, among 21 qualifiers. Defensive Runs Saved has him in a tie for last, with J.D. Martinez. Those negative marks stretch back a couple years now, but then you get recent tweets like this from Jeff Passan:

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And quotes like this out of Buster Olney columns:

Bruce’s defensive metrics are not good, but some scouts believe that he’s better than those numbers indicate, and wonder if his skills are properly reflected in the stats — which some evaluators believe may be inexact.

And you begin to sense a divide on the evaluation of Bruce’s defensive ability. And it’s an important divide, because a Bruce with average-to-better defense is a useful player. A Bruce closer to what the defensive metrics suggest is a replacement-level designated hitter. Those two players fetch far different returns in a mid-season trade.

Those evaluators to whom Olney referred? They’re right. The defensive metrics are inexact. The only certain thing about defensive numbers are that they’re uncertain. But we can gather plenty of bits of information from plenty of sources and piece them together to form a conclusion. We’ve already started with the two quotes. Let’s now go back in history a bit to know what Bruce once was.

Bruce once was a premium defender. At least, that’s what the numbers say. By the way — for the rest of this post, I’m drawing a line in the sand. Bruce had surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee early in the 2014 season. Ever since then, his defensive numbers have been bad. Ever before then, his defensive numbers were good. That doesn’t seem insignificant, so we’re splitting Bruce’s career in two parts: pre- and post-2014. The pre-2014 sample spans nearly 7,000 innings. The post-2014 sample spans nearly 3,000. Two solid samples, even for defensive numbers.

Anyway, that first part of Bruce’s career, from 2008-13, Bruce was regarded highly in the field. I set a minimum of 2,500 innings played in right field over those six years to get a pool of 30 right fielders, combined UZR and DRS figures, and found that Bruce ranked fourth with roughly +5 runs saved per year, right behind Ichiro Suzuki and right ahead of Nate Schierholtz. The arm was seen as a slight plus, he was average at preventing errors, and the range was seen as a definite plus.

I did the same thing for the most recent years, following the knee surgery. For 2014-16, I set a minimum of 1,000 innings played in right field to get a similar pool of 32 right fielders. Same methodology, Bruce now ranks 23rd with roughly -5 runs saved per year, right behind Jose Bautista and Ryan Braun and right ahead of Shin-Soo Choo and Nelson Cruz. The arm is no longer seen as a plus, the errors are still average, and the range is perceived to have taken a huge hit. The metrics see about a 10-run swing per year, and that would cost Bruce roughly a full win of value, annually. This year, Bruce is already at -12, albeit in a limited sample prone to fluctuation.

But we can go deeper than all that. Baseball Info Solutions breaks Defensive Runs Saved down into more granular bits of information. I took all that information, split it into our two chunks of Bruce’s career, prorated each to 1,000-inning scales, and prepared the following table:

Jay Bruce Defensive Runs Saved Breakdown
Year Shallow Medium Deep Range Runs | Adv. Opps Extra Bases Adv. Rate Kills Arm Runs
2008-13 3 3 -1 5 | 92 42 45.6% 5 1
2014-16 2 2 -8 -4 | 96 48 49.5% 4 -2
-All figures presented on per-1,000 inning scale
Shallow/Medium/Deep: Runs saved, based on location
Adv. Rate: Percentage of baserunners taking an extra base on advancement opportunities
Kills: Outs made by throws directly to base, without assist by cutoff man

The difference in the arm is relatively small: a handful more base-runners have ran on Bruce, and he’s done a slightly worse job of throwing them out. That comes out to about three runs a year. The big hit is in the range. The deep ball was never Bruce’s strong suit, but ever since 2014, he’s graded as a disaster when going back on the ball.

Let’s work in some Inside Edge numbers, too. Inside Edge buckets defensive plays by difficulty. To mitigate sample concerns, I like to group all the non-routine plays into one bucket, creating routine plays (90-100% conversion rate) and non-routine plays (less than 90%). The non-routine plays are where the real difference in fielder ability is found. This data doesn’t go back far enough to include the pre-2014 Bruce, but we can say that, since 2014, Bruce has converted the non-routine play 36% of the time, against a league-average of 43%, ranking him 22nd out of 32 — right in line with the DRS and UZR evaluations over the same time span.

Our last piece of information is video. Using our Inside Edge fielding spray charts, I found five plays Bruce missed this season, and five plays of similar difficulty which Bruce made this season, and rendered them into .gif form. They’re presented, without comment, in alternating order below, beginning with a miss:

You’ve got it all. You’ve got the defensive numbers, split into two chunks. The first calling Bruce a +5 fielder, the second calling Bruce a -5 fielder, with knowledge of a knee surgery splitting the two. You’ve got separate bits of information from two reputable reporters, quoting scouts who think Bruce is better than the numbers indicate, knowing he’s currently at -12 on the season. You’ve got the breakdown of Defensive Runs Saved, indicating a decline in Bruce’s ability to go back on a ball representing nearly the entirety of his now-poor range figures. You’ve got Inside Edge agreeing with the metrics, and you’ve got 10 video clips evenly displaying both good and bad examples of Jay Bruce defense.

The opinion of Bruce’s defensive ability is the key in deciding his trade value this summer, and what he’ll bring to whichever club acquires him. With all the information being presented to you, what’s your opinion?





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kevinmaltzy15
10 years ago

2014 also coincides with Billy Hamilton playing in CF next to him. I’d imagine Hamilton’s huge range has affected the amount of fly balls that Bruce attempts to catch

kevinmaltzy15
10 years ago

Particularly because he went from having Choo in CF in 2013. Huge range difference had to affect it somehow

Tct
10 years ago

If Hamilton is catching balls that Bruce used to get to, it may not penalize Bruce but he doesn’t get the positive value for catching the ball that he used to. Also, it wouldn’t be shocking to hear that Bruce positioned himself differently when playing next to Hamilton than he did when he played next to Choo in 2013.

Tct
10 years ago

I was just throwing out ideas. I think it’s more likely that Bruce is now a slightly below average fielder who is just having a bad defensive year. We accept that decent hitters can have bad years, but it seems like people expect defensive metrics to be perfect indicators of true talent level and never fluctuate.

Dane Roberns
10 years ago

I have no evidence that such interaction exists, but it would make sense intuitively if it does exist. He doesn’t get docked for plays that Hamilton takes in his zone, but it does limit his chances at making plus plays. I’d think it possible that Hamilton could diminish Bruce’s apparent positive impact if the portion of his sample he is eating into are mostly the routine and difficult plays Bruce would have made.

second-pot
10 years ago

“any ball that the good defender gets to that is also sometimes caught by the fielder in question is a plus for that fielder.”

Does this mean that on a play where both Hamilton and Bruce are able to get in position to field the ball, and where Hamilton ultimately makes the catch, Bruce still gets some positive credit? That goes against my understanding of how these situations are treated by UZR.

second-pot
10 years ago

That seems like a somewhat flawed comparison. I’d have to imagine the percentage of balls in play that the CF and RF can both reach, rather than just one or the other, is much higher than the same split for a 3B and SS. The nature of BIPs hit to OFs lends to their range overlapping more often. I’m sure Bruce defers to Hamilton in any and all cases where they can both get to the ball, and Bruce gets none of the credit in any of these cases, whereas he’s punished to some extent for BIPs that neither he or Hamilton could get to.

matthewlowe10
10 years ago

Reds pitcher sees deep fly ball to right field, immediately backs up 3rd base.

Matthew Prowant
10 years ago

The videos make it seem like less of an athleticism/range issue and more of a reading the ball issue. Perhaps if an acquiring club chose to move his starting position further back, they would see less balls fall in over his head.

Joshua Miller
10 years ago

Yeah, it seems to me maybe he relied on athleticism earlier in his career to overcome poor positioning, and that isn’t working for him anymore. Playing deeper would certainly help.

Ernie CamachoMember since 2016
10 years ago

Yeah, he just looks pretty terrible going back on balls, and much better coming in. If these clips are fairly representative, deeper positioning seems like a good idea.

jdbolickMember since 2024
10 years ago

He looks pretty unathletic on those plays.

Mike Green
10 years ago

He looks a lot like Michael Saunders out there. It shouldn’t really be a shock that knee problems affect both range and arm. Both Saunders and Bruce seem to lack confidence going back (whether they make the play or not).

It’s funny also because Kevin Pillar definitely will take anything within a mile and a half of his start point, but I am pretty sure that has very little to do with Saunders’ poor defensive numbers.

I voted -5 to -10.

nevinbrownMember since 2022
10 years ago

Just watching these highlights Bruce’s ability to go back on the ball is really bad. He has an issue that you’ll see some guys have where they have to watch the ball the whole time. Coming in, or in the gap this tends to be a non issue, but the guys who are really great at going back can take their eye off the ball and run towards the spot and then find it again in time to make the play. He should just play way deeper, even if it seems like he’s out of position.

second-pot
10 years ago
Reply to  nevinbrown

That’s exactly what Dexter Fowler did this season, positioned himself much deeper, and the early (and SSS for what it’s worth) returns are really positive. UZR and DRS both like him quite a bit better this year than ever before. FRAA on the other hand doesn’t see much difference. Given how the two (zone based vs. play by play data based) differ I think that’s a pretty clear indication that he’s getting better results (as evidenced by UZR and DRS, which don’t know where a fielder is positioned, liking his range a lot better, ie he’s getting to more balls) without his fielding ability having changed much if at all.

dirtbag
10 years ago

I hear so many former-players-now-announcers who completely overrate sliding catches. Look at that 6th GIF (the one where the CHC lead 8-1). He definitely didn’t even need to slide to make that catch. But guys like Tom Grieve and Steve Busby would be gushing over that play. There are several other of his sliding catches where he might not needed to have slid, and if he were one step faster, there’s no way he would have needed to slide.

I can’t help but wonder if the scouts overrate these plays, too.

(Is Bruce the Carney Lansford of the outfield?)

B3malMember since 2025
10 years ago
Reply to  dirtbag

My brothers and I used to play a diving catch game in our backyard and whenever one of us dove for a ball we didn’t need to, we called it a David Justice catch. Not sure if Justice routinely did that or it was something we saw once and just attached it to him.

Arjon
10 years ago

Is there data on Bruce’s reaction times and his running speed before and after his injury?

second-pot
10 years ago
Reply to  Arjon

Statcast will be able to give us this kind of information, but I don’t believe there are any publicly available resources that do at this time.

ashlandateam
10 years ago

Having watched Bruce from literally day one, I can say this: he used to be good in the field, and now he sucks. The numbers reflect what Reds fans have seen. I really don’t know or particularly care how that works out numbers wise, but the scouts who say he’s average can’t be watching day in and day out. This guy is not a good defensive outfielder, despite the fact he used to be. I take no pleasure in saying this; I might literally cry the day he’s traded because I’m a sap and sports mean more to me than they should and I love Jay Bruce so much I sorta want to get an apartment with him when this is all said and done. But still. He isn’t good.

Of course, I sincerely hope the Reds get value for him as if he’s not bad in the field. So yeah – let’s let the scouts say he’s good out there.

Urban Shocker
10 years ago

Looks like he might have sold the catch a little bit in the 4th gif. +1!

Socrates Johnson
10 years ago

Even his “good” defensive plays aren’t all that impressive honestly. I think he’s comfortably below average.

second-pot
10 years ago

Hope this isn’t considered spam or anything, I get literally nothing for this, but funnily enough I wrote an article on this exact issue just a week ago. I looked at things a different way, but came to the conclusion that a ~-12.4 UZR/150 mark is a reasonable guess for his fielding this season: https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/4qoker/fixing_fwar_a_framework_for_smartly_regressing/

jwalker
10 years ago

Are there home/away defensive metric splits available?

My theory is his perception of deep balls could be affected by his positioning from playing half his games at GABP alongside Billy Hamilton, moving him to a shallower position closer to the foul line.

Or perhaps playing in a smaller/homer-friendly park has always negatively affected his perception of deep balls. (To this point, could Red Sox left fielders for instance display similar deficiencies on deep balls?)

jlongrc
10 years ago

In the clips you can definitely see how a scout might want to say he’s average or better if they got a biased sample of his play (or were biased in their recollection). He looks decent and more importantly capable coming in and going sideways. You could write off the plays over his head as aberrations if you were doing this sort of informal evaluation.

I watch Melky Cabrera play LF all the time and he looks much worse in my recollection than that set of plays for Bruce. But he’s better on balls going back and throws at an elite level…and the eyeball test isn’t always so great.

adlenon
10 years ago

I’m not sure if there is any truth to this, but it seems like a player would typically be better at making plus plays to his glove hand side. With bruce potentially losing zone to his glove hand side, he could be losing range on his glove hand side but retaining zone on the weak side. Is there a spray chart of non routine plays that would show if the relationship of balls to each side has changed? If so, this could be a positioning issue that should be at least partially compensated with coaching.

jianadaren
10 years ago

“A Bruce closer to what the defensive metrics suggest is a replacement-level designated hitter. ”

Since when is 107-117 wRC+ replacement level for DHs?

trpetersenMember since 2018
10 years ago

Great article!

You mentioned that you found these plays using the Inside Edge spray charts. How would one go about finding what date and play that the dots on the spray chart represent?

When hovering over, only the outcome type and the chance that it was fieldable. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!