The Lockout Projected ZiPS Standings: American League Edition

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As you might have noticed if you were surfing FanGraphs while relaxing over the weekend — or recovering from shoveling snow in the Northeast — the ZiPS projections have now been populated in the projections section of the site.

There will be multiple updates to those projections this spring because, well, a whole bunch of the offseason remains, far more than is typical when ZiPS makes its appearance in the database. While I’m more cautiously optimistic than most of my colleagues are about the future of the 2022 season, in the present, baseball’s landscape is less about fans huddled around an abstract hot stove and more about the heat death of the universe. With no MLBPA members being signed, traded, or even acknowledged on official MLB channels, baseball has nearly entered a state of thermodynamic equilibrium.

While this is bad for the game and anyone who likes it, it at least makes depth charts less volatile and provides a good opportunity to run some mid-lockout standings. These are quite obviously nowhere near the final preseason projections, but they’re a snapshot of where baseball stands right now. Which teams are in good shape, and which ones still have work to do? Let’s forget about the eternal void that beckons and get to some projections!

We covered the National League yesterday, but before we turn our attention to the Junior Circuit, a reminder on how these projections are calculated. The methodology I’m using here isn’t identical to the one we use in our Projected Standings, so there will naturally be some important differences in the results. So how does ZiPS calculate the season? Stored within ZiPS is the first through 99th percentile projections for each player it projects. I start by making a generalized depth chart, using our Depth Charts as an initial starting point. Since these are my curated projections, I then make changes based on my personal feelings about who will receive playing time, as filtered by arbitrary whimsy my logic and reasoning. ZiPS then generates a million versions of each team in Monte Carlo fashion. The computational algorithms, that is — no one is dressing up in a tuxedo and playing baccarat like James Bond.

After that is done, ZiPS applies another set of algorithms with a generalized distribution of injury risk, which change the baseline PAs/IPs selected for each player. Of note is that higher-percentile projections already have more playing time than lower-percentile projections before this step. ZiPS then automatically “fills in” playing time from the next players on the list (proportionally) to get to a full slate of plate appearances and innings. For instance, here are two simulations concerning Texas Rangers shortstop results:

ZiPS Simulated Results (Texas Rangers SS)
Player PA (Sim No. 666666) PA (Sim No. 420069)
Corey Seager 537 312
Isiah Kiner-Falefa 122 142
Marcus Semien 5 174
Yonny Hernandez 34 62
Ryan Dorow 2 7
Davis Wendzel 0 1
Josh H. Smith 0 1
Jax Biggers 0 1
Ezequiel Duran 0 0
Andy Ibáñez 0 0
Nick Solak 0 0

The result is a million different rosters for each team and an associated winning percentage for each of those million teams. After applying the new strength of schedule calculations based on the other 29 teams, I end up with the standings for each of the million seasons. This is actually much less complex than it sounds.

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Now on to the projections. First up: the American League East.

ZiPS Projections – American League East
Team W L GB Pct Div% WC% Playoff% WS Win%
New York Yankees 90 72 .556 39.1% 35.2% 74.3% 8.4%
Toronto Blue Jays 89 73 1 .549 27.4% 36.4% 63.8% 6.2%
Tampa Bay Rays 88 74 2 .543 25.5% 36.2% 61.7% 5.9%
Boston Red Sox 83 79 7 .512 8.0% 22.5% 30.5% 2.2%
Baltimore Orioles 64 98 26 .395 0.0% 0.1% 0.1% 0.0%

Four teams in the division projecting as real contenders has a real effect on the projected win totals versus the overall quality of each team. This is perhaps most obvious in the projection for the Boston Red Sox. ZiPS doesn’t think they’re really just an 83-win team in 2022, but when the prospective schedule is actually simulated, they fall a bit short compared to the division’s top trio. The projection swings aren’t as wild as they were before the 2021 season, as the depth of the rotation has improved a bit: Boston is slated to start the season with Chris Sale, and both Tanner Houck and Kutter Crawford come out with better forecasts than the last time around. That said, the Sox are still short at least one outfielder and their short-term situation at first base is one of the weakest in baseball.

The Yankees have more variance in their projection than last year. ZiPS still likes their front-end talent, but the wheels come off this cart in the simulations where injuries hit. Toronto’s projection is the opposite, with the tightest bands in the division. ZiPS continues to like the Rays more than our Depth Charts do, which I hypothesize comes down to a difference in methodology; ZiPS gives a lot of playing time to the Plan Bs, because the Plan Bs are quite important.

The Orioles exist. Their goal this year is to complete 162 games and win some of them.

ZiPS Projections – American League Central
Team W L GB Pct Div% WC% Playoff% WS Win%
Chicago White Sox 88 74 .543 70.7% 4.2% 74.8% 8.0%
Cleveland Guardians 78 84 10 .481 12.0% 5.5% 17.5% 1.3%
Detroit Tigers 76 86 12 .469 6.9% 3.5% 10.4% 0.7%
Minnesota Twins 75 87 13 .463 5.9% 2.9% 8.8% 0.6%
Kansas City Royals 74 88 14 .457 4.5% 2.2% 6.7% 0.4%

The Central projects similarly to last year, with two clear tiers: the White Sox and everyone else. Right now, there’s no particular reason to expect Chicago to do anything but coast to the divisional title, with the usual caveats for injuries and the like.

If the White Sox falter for some reason, ZiPS sees the division becoming a much more interesting dogfight. The dead cat bounce isn’t enough to get ZiPS to project a return to form for the Twins thanks to some extremely unimpressive pitching projections, which can be described as middling across the board with an extremely low ceiling. ZiPS likes the Tigers in the long-term — and I’m taking the over on this projection right now — but there’s still some sorting out to do. Aggressively promoting Riley Greene would add a couple wins to the projections. So would finding an actual DH rather than pretending Miguel Cabrera is still a major league-quality hitter, but I don’t really expect Detroit to go that far.

ZiPS is bullish on Kansas City’s offensive future thanks to the quartet of Bobby Witt Jr., Nick Pratto, MJ Melendez, and Vinnie Pasquantino, but only Witt is likely to see a bunch of playing time in 2022. Still, the division is weak, and it would be dangerous to count the Royals out with such interesting offensive talent in the high minors.

ZiPS Projections – American League West
Team W L GB Pct Div% WC% Playoff% WS Win%
Houston Astros 91 71 .562 70.9% 10.6% 81.6% 10.9%
Los Angeles Angels 81 81 10 .500 10.7% 14.0% 24.7% 1.8%
Oakland A’s 81 81 10 .500 10.6% 14.2% 24.8% 1.8%
Seattle Mariners 80 82 11 .494 6.9% 10.5% 17.4% 1.2%
Texas Rangers 73 89 18 .451 0.9% 2.1% 3.0% 0.2%

Even with the departure of Carlos Correa, the Astros project at the top the division. That’s not because ZiPS doesn’t see Correa leaving as a major loss — it quite obviously is — but the computer is far more confident about the fate of the rotation than it was last year at this time. Adding Verlander, even with the time he’s missed and at his age, provides another boost. Houston’s done a better job than I expected in mitigating the loss of some of the core players of the 2010s teams.

Mediocre pitching projections hold both the Mariners and the Athletics back. I expect both of those teams to close some ground with the Astros by the time we get to the projections nearer to Opening Day; the Mariners apparently still intend to spend and Oakland didn’t have their usual burst of bargain shopping before the lockout froze the offseason. The Angels never really get a lousy projection — Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani are too good for that to happen — but they remain a team with serious holes.

I kind of expected the Rangers to come out in the 76-78 win range, but as it happened, any time the team lost two or three starting pitchers for an extended stretch, the staff projections became a nearly-unmitigated disaster in the simulations. This rebuild may still go better than the last one, but there’s a lot of work still to do. The team’s lack of talent at the major league level can’t be rapidly papered over by a few very fun free agent signings.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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deb81162
4 years ago

I’ll take the over on Sea, Det and Tor
I” take the under on Oak, Cle and Bos

deaconbluerayMember since 2025
4 years ago
Reply to  deb81162

Outside of a two-week Covid blast around the end of August, the Red Sox had remarkably good overall health last year. That will make almost any team competitive (except the O’s). I’m curious to see if Boston can pull that off again; if not, they will need to acquire a whole lot better bench pretty quickly after the lockout ends. Rays and Jays both look like better bets to me. I have no idea what the Yankees are doing at this point, but it smells…not-so-fresh.

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  deb81162

Agreed on most. Over for Toronto and Detroit. Under for Oakland once they make detrimental trades. But the Red Sox will bring in another big hitter so it could be a 3 way race. I don’t count Tampa. Things have broken right but that won’t continue.

David Klein
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

Things have been “breaking right” for them more often than not since 2008. they have a top flight front office, a top flight bullpen every year, lots of depth and some excellent young players and the best farm system in baseball they’re going be good for quite a while more,

Jross
4 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

If they have a top flight front office why do they fire everyone every three years.

David Klein
4 years ago
Reply to  Jross

Huh? Who did they fire? The Rays front office guys get hired by other teams,

Slappytheclown
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

The Rays have a super deep team. Choi and Yandy have both posted solid wRC the last few years. Meadows, Arozarena and presumably Margot who himself is an average OF are fine. Walls is a 50fv prospect who can pick it and put up 125 to 135 wRC in difficult AA and AAA parks the last few years. They have a league average BACKUP catcher. They have Brujan andJosh Lowe ready and pitchers like Romero, Goss and Steotman in the minors plus Patino and Baz. It’s a team filled with upside and depth but heh if that is things breaking right I’m ok. Joe Ryan was 18…18! On their prospect list last year. Just sayin…

rounders
4 years ago
Reply to  Slappytheclown

At this point it makes no sense for the Rays to not be favorites every year unless anybody can make a case for one team standing out, but no team is.

catmanwayne
4 years ago
Reply to  deb81162

I am bullish on the Mariners as well. Rotation is still a concern, but I believe that Ray will anchor them, and Gilbert will build off of his debut. It’s better than trying to guess which Kikuchi they might get. The young hitters should improve as well, especially Kelenic and Raleigh because it’ll be hard for them to perform as badly as they did in 2021. The one thing I’m skeptical of is their bullpen. I doubt they’ll keep up the voodoo magic from 2021, despite the fact that Munoz is healthy and a few months later hopefully Giles will begin taking some of the late innings. They definitely should add at least one big bat and one more SP. Things are looking good for Seattle long term, however. Baseball America just tagged their farm system as the best in the sport. They have trade ammo, a lot of room to add payroll, and a lot of young talent trickling in. As it stands, 81-81 sounds about right, but with the potential for more if they continue to add.

Manco
4 years ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

don’t think Kikucki is still there. He opted out. other than that I agree with a lot you’ve said

catmanwayne
4 years ago
Reply to  Manco

That’s the point I was making. Ray essentially replaced Kikuchi.

MikeSMember since 2020
4 years ago

Right now, there’s no particular reason to expect Chicago to do anything but coast to the divisional title, with the usual caveats for injuries and the like.

I mean, last year they lost their second baseman, left fielder, center fielder, half their right field platoon, and catcher each for half a season or more, their shortstop for 40 games, and still coasted to a division title. I wouldn’t have thought that was possible last March (Fangraphs didn’t either since they judged Luis Robert to be one of the most irreplaceable players in baseball in a couple early articles) and I don’t recommend it as a strategy, but it happened.

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

True but they really didn’t coast till Cleveland’s starting rotation was wiped out by injuries. Chicago’s lead was only 2 games as late as June 28th (75 or so games). At that point though, Cleveland had their top 3 starters on the DL and basically had a rotation made up of AAA/AAAA guys.

So in a world in which Chicago got hit by injuries but Cleveland (or whoever Chicago’s closest rival is) doesn’t, then Chicago may not coast. At least that’s how I interpret that line from the article.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
4 years ago

Feels very appropriate that Cleveland didn’t get a mention in the write up given their apparent strategic imperative to do absolutely nothing of note to bolster their chances to compete.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

Cleveland is maddeningly consistent. Nobody who would return a decent prospect is up for free agency, so they won’t do anything there. Instead they’ll just hang out until a first baseman or corner outfielder has no other suitors. And that’ll be it! They’ll run a cool $50M-60M payroll and point to Corey Dickerson or whoever they sign as evidence that they still care.

tung_twista
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

>Cleveland is maddeningly consistent […] They’ll run a cool $50M-60M payroll

Doesn’t sound fair.

Cleveland’s payroll
2021 $50M
2020 $39M ($105M adjusted for full season)
2019 $108M
2018 $151M
2017 $152M

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

To be fair, I was referring to their tendencies in free agency. Are you thinking they’re going to add more money than that? I don’t think so. They haven’t really added much in free agency since the Encarnacion deal. They’re going to play it cheap for a while. Their MO is to go bargain shopping at a couple places and that’s it, and has been for a while.

mikejuntMember
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Given that the Guardian’s leadership has fairly directly stated that their attempt to invest in the team after the WS run did not have a positive ROI for the club, I don’t see why anyone would expect them to be closer to the 2017-18 salaries than the 2021 ones. They’ve pretty clearly stated that they invested in the roster and it didn’t bring more people to the park or otherwise pay its way.

rounders
4 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

With that payroll the Cleveland Indians apparently are in a guardianship.

g4Member since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I am reading CBS transaction log accurately, Cleveland didn’t make a single addition at the major league level prior to the lockout. With all their moves in front of them, it leads me to believe that adding 3-4 wins by opening day would be almost a given.

Feels like a mere $20M payroll influx could make a real difference, comparatively more so than elsewhere.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  g4

“Feels like a mere $20M payroll influx could make a real difference, comparatively more so than elsewhere.”

Feels like we say that every offseason though, right?

g4Member since 2020
4 years ago

Agreed

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  g4

I think that is generally true of most teams with big holes, right? But they don’t seem like a player for anyone with a QO, or anyone with major injury concerns, or any starting pitchers given how hot the market was for them before the lockout. And if the lockout drags on and Cleveland loses money, that’ll make them even more reluctant to spend. This team would be contenders for the division with, say, Kyle Schwarber and Michael Conforto, but when we’re talking about Corey Dickerson and Andrew McCutchen it’s not all that clear how that’s going to work.

isavage
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Most teams don’t have $40 million payrolls with their current roster. Cleveland has lots of financial room right now. There would also be no reason for Cleveland to be a player for any starting pitcher… They will almost certainly acquire one OF and maybe a 1b.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  isavage

They’re at about $49M. In theory, this would give them a lot of room to sign someone like Kyle Schwarber. But I’ll repeat what I said above: Do you really think they’re going to be in play for Schwarber or Conforto? Or for guys like Dickerson or McCutchen? I’m not even sure they’ll be in on Rosario (again) or Rizzo. There’s no rule that says they have to spend the money. If I were them, I’d be looking at an extension for Bieber first, but who knows if they’re willing to pay up for that.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago

“Their goal this year is to complete 162 games and win some of them.”

#squadgoals

Six Ten
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

But absolutely not, under any circumstances, to win too many!

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

LOL I thought that was a great line. (and sadly true)

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

I actually preferred the line before that: The Orioles exist. A lot of truth packed into 3 words…

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago

Looks like the NL projects to be the marginally better league – AL projects at 1,211 wins / .498 overall win percentage. Only six AL teams of 15 (40%) projected to be over .500, although two others right at .500 and one just a single game below. Looks to be an AL East dogfight redux.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I don’t know why Dan would think that Oakland is going to close the gap, since they’re talking about maybe trading 3 starting pitchers and 2 pretty-good-to-very-good position players. I’d guess they’re going to lose 5 wins off their projection before the season opens.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It depends whom they get back in those trades but yes I wouldn’t “expect” them to close the gap. On the other hand they have 4 gaping holes in their lineup at SS, LF, RF and DH and an atrocious bullpen. I can see a scenario where Olson and Bassitt return players who aren’t as good but are able to fill a bunch of the horribleness with mediocrity. They would be trading about 8 WAR for less proven stuff that could be worth 8 WAR over a bunch of positions. A’s, Angels and Mariners would seem to have some of the biggest variances in MLB.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

There were a lot of rumors about them trading both the Matts and Manaea before the lockout. It’s hard to see them starting the season with all of them still on the roster, especially considering the below average farm system they currently have.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I don’t know what ZiPs thinks of the likelihood of the Yankees players staying healthy, but last year Judge gave them over 600 PAs, Gerrit Cole gave them 180 innings, and Montgomery and Taillon combined for another 300 or so. So things can definitely get worse from what happened last year. A lot worse.
Also:
-Taillon and Hicks are slated in for roughly a full season’s worth of work on Depth Charts despite coming off injuries and having histories themselves
-Severino is slated for 118 innings despite not really pitching since 2018
-They’re relying on Judge and Gallo and Stanton and Sanchez and Voit, none of whom have clean injury histories.
-Gleyber Torres is slated to hit 20 home runs, which seems possible but optimistic.

With the Blue Jays and Rays looking pretty consistent in the upper 80s / lower 90s win total, I’m definitely gonna take the under on the Yankees unless they get a lot more depth or land a legitimate shortstop. And even then, I’m not sure.

PhilMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“Gleyber Torres is slated to hit 20 home runs, which seems possible but optimistic”

Especially as they’ve moved the walls back in Camden Yards.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

On the other hand they have a whole bunch of money to fill holes. It doesn’t have to be Correa or nothing.

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Zero chance it will be Correa. Stopgap this year. Then Anthony Volpe for years and years.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

Yeah, I’d say maybe a 1% chance on Correa in the event that his market implodes (seriously, who’s going to give him 350M?) and he signs like a 4 year deal with opt outs or something.

Also how terrible would it be to put a stop gap at one of the most important positions in the field during a championship window? That’s really bad.

BurleighGrimesMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

Much bigger than zero chance

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m a huge Yankee fan but I’m honest. Yes I worry a lot about Judge and Stanton staying healthy. And we have not 1, not 2, but FOUR major holes. Sanchez is a horrible catcher all the way around. Aaron Hicks even if healthy is not much of a hitter. Voit has big power and is a team leader……but he can not be counted on at all. And we all know about SS. In my mind there is also good news. I believe Severino and Cole will be a big 1-2 punch and their starting pitching is underrated. I’m counting on them trading Oswald Peraza for Matt Olson. Deep down the Yankees have correctly chosen Volpe for 2023 and beyond. They need a CF and that is difficult. The bullpen is excellent with Johnny Lasagna and Chad Green ready to step into even bigger roles. And Joey Votto is a good defensive outfielder who has huge power, and tons of walks despite that horrid average. Gleyber is a mystery. The toughest player to figure out in MLB. He had 2 huge years, not one so he has plenty of power. But WTF…..who goes from those years to lousy hitter at 24 years old !!! Nobody. I call a Yankees-Blue Jays dogfight. This assumes one of Judge or Stanton gets 500 at bats and they trade for Matt Olson.

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

LOL NOT Joey Votto. Of course I meant Joey Gallo.

puddleMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

“But WTF…..who goes from those years to lousy hitter at 24 years old !”

***Cody Bellinger has joined the chat***

dl80Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

Gleyber never showed all that much power until the bouncy ball arrived, and then his home runs disappeared as soon as the ball did.

proiste
4 years ago
Reply to  dl80

He also hit half of his dingers against one of the worst pitching staffs of all time in a massive hitters park that has now been nerfed. That power was a fluke that is never coming back

Willians Astu-stu-studilloMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

On the other hand, last year 78% of the offense collapsed, so regression will be a very positive force. Since they won 92 games and haven’t lost any important players to free agency, 90 wins with the current squad sounds about right.

PC1970Member since 2024
4 years ago

Winner for best user name.

Phil Collins applauds your efforts.

Willians Astu-stu-studilloMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Heh. Tell him I said thanks.

thecodygriffin
4 years ago

I really didn’t want to be that guy yesterday, but since no one acknowledged it on the NL article, I have to do so here:

Tip of the cap to Dan for ever so coincidentally using Simulation Numbers 666666 and 420069 as samples.

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago
Reply to  thecodygriffin

Yup. Dan was a little Devil using those numbers.

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago

How did last years standing projections do? Be interesting to include a short paragraph on that comp.

g4Member since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

My guess is Dan’s saving that for the final offseason projections.

David Klein
4 years ago

I think Oakland goes the other way instead of closing ground as I see them trading Olson or Chapman, two pitchers and maybe Laser Ramon as well. Oh and while they likely tear down a bit John Fisher raised ticket prices.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Presumably they’d get players back in those trades.

David Klein
4 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Right prospects some that aren’t major league ready just yet.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

They did finally get city approval for a new stadium so there is a chance, albeit a small one, that they will start spending on players.

mariodegenzgz
4 years ago

The Tigers should absolutely not move on from Miggy, until he breaks the 3000 hit mark, that is. It’s gonna be really, really dope when it happens.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  mariodegenzgz

But they can make him a part time player like Dodger Pujols

mariodegenzgz
4 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Right. He gets there, and then you make him a part time player. I hope he hits #3000 at home.

TerryMc
4 years ago
Reply to  mariodegenzgz

You’ll probably see strategic days off to make it more likely to happen at home.

markakis21
4 years ago

Man, the Rangers spending spree still wasn’t enough to pull them out of the projected basement of a decidedly average division.

I think the Rays are being underrated again for sure. It’s hard to build “constantly generating quality relievers from scraps” into a model though sadly.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

That has to be the next level of analytics, right? Quantifying the coaching staff.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

How would anyone quantify something with no direct statistics? It would be like quantifying Apple employees vs Dell employees. It’s also pointless to evaluate individuals who are hired to implement the company system. It’s the system that works or doesn’t work.

DBRunsMember since 2025
4 years ago

No mention of Cleveland in the write-up (all 14 other AL teams at least got some commentary).

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  DBRuns

Particularly weird since Cleveland (and Baltimore) was also left out of last year’s writeup. What does Dan have against Cleveland???

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

But that makes it even stranger. How hard would it be to include a side note re : Cleveland? I’m not saying that in a mean way…I just find it weird that Cleveland has been left off two years in a row. And they’re basically the only teams that’s gotten left off.

Brian
4 years ago

There was nothing to say, because neither team did anything interesting or proactive.

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Did you even bother to read the article? Very few of the comments have anything to do with what the teams have done in the offseason.

MRDXolMember since 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  DBRuns

Cleveland hasn’t made a single move. What’s to say?

JohnThackerMember since 2025
4 years ago

Houston looks good right now, but my sense is that the Astros farm system isn’t great. Given that, they really ought to just pay him and try to win now. They look great now, but they’re not a team that should count on the window lasting forever.

baubo
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnThacker

They should pay him because he is young and all star, but not because of lack of replacement. Alex Bregman is a good shortstop and their top prospect Jeremy Pena is basically major league ready.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  baubo

” Alex Bregman is a good shortstop”

Third baseman?

baseballenjoyer
4 years ago
Reply to  baubo

Bregs is too hefty/injury prone to be an everyday SS anymore. Peña may be the answer, but no reason not to pay Carlos if you can.

montrealMember since 2022
4 years ago

As we can see the Angels are not likely to make the playoffs AGAIN. I thought when Billy Ineptler left they would improve their starting pitching, but once again they are going with a bunch of # 4 and 5 starters with the exception of Sandoval, who is a #3. They baby Ohtani and I don’t predict a large number of innings. What a waste of Mike Trout. I used to feel bad for him but he chose to resign. You make your bed you lie in it.

catmanwayne
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

With the Angels, it’s almost never been the GM’s fault. It’s almost always Arte Moreno being too hands-on when signing free agents to huge contracts, then doing absolutely nothing along the margins to supplement the team around their stars.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

“They baby Ohtani”

I guess they COULD push him to throw 200 innings, risk blowing out his arm, and prevent him from helping through hitting and pitching…?

mariodegenzgz
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

By this logic, why have him pitch at all? Every time he throws a pitch he’s at risk, right?

I’m kinda tired of people treating pitchers like delicate pieces of clothing. Some guys break, some guys don’t, it’s always been that way (even more are breaking now, of course, with the velocity craze). Teams in the 50s didn’t mind pushing them to find out who could take 250+ innings a year. They do now bc these guys are massive investments for a franchise.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  mariodegenzgz

You’re right, throw caution to the wind. They threw like 25, 30 complete games in 1910, daggummit!

mariodegenzgz
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

This argument would work if it wasn’t for the fact that pitcher injuries keep going up despite the hurlers themselves being deployed with more caution than ever.

BurleighGrimesMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  mariodegenzgz

This all makes no sense since we’re talking abt Ohtani. He’s probably the least “babied” player in baseball since he does the jobs of two players at the same time.

rounders
4 years ago
Reply to  mariodegenzgz

ML staffs in 1910ish carried five pitchers. Five. They were all legend, or, they paced themselves against hitters who were stuck swinging hickory bats. The last two iron men in baseball were Lolich and Ryan.
The rule is if you throw like Koufax you are very fortunate to get five years out of it. Even iron men don’t have iron elbows. Koufax didn’t like brushing his teeth right handed, which is what it had come down to.

rounders
4 years ago
Reply to  rounders

Plus, lowering the mound had a catastrophic result for pitching arms, even more than the five man rotation could make up for. But when 300 averages disappeared in 1968 baseball panicked. As far as I am concerned every substance that can keep a chucker on the mound and off the operating table should be legal.

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

It’s almost like Ohtani has already had one Tommy John surgery or something…
Ohtani is in charge of his daily diagnostics with Maddon to determine his pitching and hitting schedule now. If he pitches more innings, it’s probably because he feels healthier. He pitched on 5 days rest 6 times in 2021, 39 IP with a 2.31 ERA, so if he doesn’t feel the need for extra rest, that’s probably a good sign.

MRDXolMember since 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  montreal

It’s real hard to be a GM when your moronic owner blows a huge chunk of your budget on poorly aging stars— Pujols, Upton, and Rendon have combined to produce 1 (one!) season above replacement level for the Angels in the past four years, which was Upton’s 2.9 WAR 2018, and have otherwise been extremely expensive anchors. Moreno made those deals happen, not the GM, and an even below-average GM could’ve made last year’s squad competitive if he could have spent the nearly $90M that trio cost at his own discretion.

nelliseMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  MRDXol

Rendon had a 2.6 in only 60 games in 2020, the same as the AL MVP had.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
4 years ago

Per ZiPS, Nick Solak has about as much chance of playing SS for Texas as does Marcia Fudge of succeeding to the United States Presidency

Kevbot034
4 years ago

“The Orioles exist. Their goal this year is to complete 162 games and win some of them.” How many years must this be the sentence? 🙁

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

Dick Monfort saw Peter Angelos and said, “I can do that!”

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
4 years ago

0.4%? So you’re saying there’s a chance?