The Marlins Assembled a Dynamite Bullpen
It’s easy to think of what could have been. Bullpen depth is all the rage these days among contenders, so Jeffrey Loria tried to get in on the action by making an aggressive pursuit of Kenley Jansen. A last-minute change of heart ultimately took Jansen back to Los Angeles, so the Marlins were left without a shutdown closer. And then there was last summer’s misguided trade for Andrew Cashner that robbed the Marlins of — among other players — Carter Capps. Capps is healthy now, still throwing the way he threw, and there’s nobody else quite like him. Jansen and Capps — those are two sexy names. The Marlins have neither.
So I’m not here to say the Marlins have done everything right. I’m not here to say they have baseball’s best bullpen. You don’t draw big bold headlines by signing Brad Ziegler and Junichi Tazawa. Yet, wouldn’t you know it, but the team has sort of succeeded in accomplishing its goal. Although by name value alone the Marlins relievers are something less than a super-group, there’s an awful lot to like here; all that will matter is performance, and this unit ought to perform.
Dave already discussed the larger state of the Marlins pitching staff a month and a half ago. They’re short on ace starters but long on versatility, so you could see the team be creative. Everything in here is related to everything in there, but I want to focus on the bullpen itself, in isolation. And by our own projections, the bullpen isn’t great. Click here on the RP header. The Marlins bullpen ranks 17th, between the Blue Jays and the White Sox. One shouldn’t make a habit of arguing with the math.
Yet within the Marlins bullpen, we find two players who cause the projections some difficulty. Two players crucial to the Marlins’ greater hopes. In Ziegler, we have an exotic bird, a guy who’s never followed the usual rules. Ziegler’s projected for a 3.51 ERA, where his lifetime mark is 2.44. And then there’s David Phelps, a 2016 bullpen-conversion success story. As the projections care, Phelps doesn’t have enough of a track record. But, until last year, he had a different job. You couldn’t blame the Marlins for being optimistic.
Ziegler, yes, is 37. Ziegler, yes, throws what’s on paper a Jered Weaver fastball. At this point, though, there’s nothing left for him to prove. His unconventional arm slot has clearly allowed him to succeed through deception, and his three-year ERA is a match for names like Ken Giles, Roberto Osuna, and Craig Kimbrel. Among all pitchers who’ve thrown at least 500 innings over the past two decades, Ziegler has the second-greatest (good) difference between his ERA and his FIP. He’s a peripheral-beater, basically. Always has been, because he’s always avoided hard contact. His most recent ERA was 2.25. At some point, he’s going to stop being good, but he’s highly effective until proven otherwise. He’s a reliable reliever with a platoon split.
As for Phelps, he’d relieved in the majors before. He’s actually relieved in parts of all five years he’s been up, but he never relieved as much as he did in 2016. And that’s not all — his previous best fastball as a reliever was 91.4 miles per hour. Last year his season average was 93.7, up more than a couple of ticks. It followed that Phelps reached new levels in all of the major statistics. He was, fairly quietly, an outstanding high-leverage bullpen arm, generating the same strikeout rate as Cody Allen. Whether it was cleaner mechanics or just greater arm strength, Phelps broke out, and in cases like his, projections tend to be too cautious.
When you see Ziegler and Phelps for what they appear to be, the rest of the bullpen falls into place, and it’s easier to picture how the unit could be among the better ones. Another important reliever is going to be Kyle Barraclough, and he just posted Craig Kimbrel’s strikeout rate and Seung Hwan Oh’s adjusted FIP. Barraclough allowed a few too many walks, but that was largely a function of his deep counts, because he’s so very difficult to hit. He just had about the same contact rate as Aroldis Chapman.
A.J. Ramos has been a regular reliever for four straight years, and his highest ERA is 3.15. That was four years ago. Like Barraclough, he walks too many folks, but he’s succeeded in avoiding home runs, and he’s always been able to miss bats. And while Tazawa’s reliability fluctuated as a member of the Red Sox, he’s long been good for a strikeout an inning. He hasn’t run into walk trouble, and his fastball still gets into the mid-90s. He’s useful, and he’s maybe the fifth piece.
About that — here’s a very simple and simplistic table. I’ve included the Marlins, and some other teams expected to have fantastic 2017 bullpens. I took the top five relievers and averaged their numbers from last season. I know this isn’t the best way to project, but, for your consideration:
| Team | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|
| Indians | 56 | 67 |
| Orioles | 62 | 79 |
| Marlins | 68 | 74 |
| Dodgers | 68 | 79 |
| Cubs | 73 | 73 |
| Yankees | 77 | 77 |
By those measures, the Marlins belong. They’re not the Indians, but, who are? A problem here is that the best projections consider more than just a single year of data, but what I want to demonstrate is how good the Marlins can look if you give Ziegler and Phelps their proper due. If you figure they’re better than what the current projections give them credit for, then the Marlins bullpen becomes both strong and deep.
Now, every bullpen needs more than five pitchers. Current rumors suggest the Marlins are planning to open with eight. You might also notice that the five relievers I’ve highlighted all throw with their right arms. The best southpaw out there might be Hunter Cervenka. That is, at present, one potential vulnerability, and it’s something I’m sure the Marlins would like to resolve. Yet overall talent is the most important thing, and I should say the unit does go more than five deep. Dustin McGowan just had a healthy season with whiffs, grounders, and a fastball at 95. Nick Wittgren was all over the strike zone as a rookie. Brian Ellington is around, and his average fastball last year came in at 98. He threw strikes while simultaneously missing bats in the zone.
I’m not sure if the Marlins are good enough to contend, at least for six months. The starting rotation is legitimately weak, and it’s not yet clear just how the team is going to try to compensate for that. And even among the relievers, you wonder if not having a good lefty will pose a significant problem. The Marlins are the third-best team in their own division, and they know hanging around is going to be a struggle. But a good bullpen can tip the run-differential game when the innings matter the most. The Marlins seem to have a strength out there, even if it’s short on statistical sex appeal. They missed on Jansen, and they’ll probably miss Capps. You yourself shouldn’t miss what the Marlins still have.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
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You can add Grant Dayton to the “What might have been?” list for the Marlins.
Ziegler is tricky with regards to his splits. The high OBP he allows vs. lefties is extremely IBB driven. Sure, you can say, “well, if he faced those lefties he’d get smashed, that’s why they’re intentionally walking these lefties in the first place”.
That’s only partly true. Ziegler is *so* good at inducing double play grounders against righties that it just makes sense as a strategy. Especially given that he’s only allowed 2 steals in the past 3 seasons.
Not all baserunners are created equal. I’m not sure if FIP makes that distinction but I highly doubt it does, since it already gets extreme gb/fb pitchers wrong, and Ziegler is beyond the extreme.
Interesting point! It would be fun to estimate the run values of base/out states with respect to a specific pitcher, including BIP tendencies.
More fun Ziegler facts. He K’d 27 in 38.1 IP with the D’backs and 31 in 29.2 with the Sox. He also threw his curveball more than ever last year and it killed.
I don’t know how to find this (pitch types by team split) but I bet he started throwing the curve a lot more after being traded away from Arizona, where it simply doesn’t break as much. He got over 18% swStr on it, (and 20.6% on his change!) and 31 of his 58 K’s.
Moving to Miami shouldn’t help him too much since he already doesn’t give up many fly balls. But he might manage 0 HR this season, giving up only 2 last year. Even if the park switch doesn’t help at all, the increased curveball usage, and success, might forebode even greater success until age gets him. Last year was his highest WAR (1.3) and as weird as it sounds, he could easily beat that this year.
That 2008 A’s team got 105 innings from Ziegler and Joey Devine. Over those innings, they allowed 70 hits and 37 walks. More impressively, they allowed only 2 home runs (both by Ziegler) and only 10 earned runs, for a 0.86 combined ERA.
So if the bullpen is at their best and they get to play Royals-ball (not by any means guaranteed, bullpens are risky), Stanton stays healthy, Yelich and Ozuna don’t regress, Dee Gordon catches lightning in a bottle again, and Wei-Yin Chen rebounds they have a great shot at the wild card. Playing in the same division as the Mets and Nationals is tough.
If this was any other team you’d say “sell off your great bullpen for a bunch of prospects at the trade deadline” but the Marlins can’t possibly do that without killing their fanbase off for good. There is just no good option here.
The marlins fall in with the mariners, dbacks and rockies as teams that seem to always fall under the category of “if you squint hard enough you can see a winner here.” I can’t wait until one of these teams stops being so frustrating and lucks into the playoffs just because at this point anyone who follows those teams really deserves it.
I sort of agree, although the D-Backs and Rockies are probably even iffier than the Mariners and Marlins for contending…but they also have an easier path to selling off assets (don’t Robinson Cano and Felix Hernandez have no trade clauses or something?).
Deep bullpens are great on playoff teams but they don’t make you a playoff team. The Marlins have a tough draw in the NL East because the Nats and Mets are built to win now and the Braves and Phillies both have better starters. Hard not to see them selling off their bullpen in July.
I’ve heard variations on this before, but it is probably more accurate to say that “relief aces are more helpful in the postseason” because they can pitch more often. I’m not sure whether depth matters or not.
Tazawa’s mid nineties days are well gone. What you have left is a low nineties fastball, and as straight as it ever was. His forkball command left the building even before the fastball deserted him, so he resurrected an old fashioned curve he may have remembered from his little league days. Maybe he can skate one season in the NL but they spent a lot for a guy declining fast.
Tazawa is going to be used against lefties a lot. The Marlins have no lefty in the pen and he’s actually had better career results vs. opposite hand batters. He doesn’t throw a change… I wonder how forkballs and platoon splits tend to play out.
I thought McGowan was out of baseball. Glad injuries didn’t ruin him.
Having watched (mostly listened to, actually) Ziegler and Tazawa on the Red Sox, I would offer this advice to Donnie Baseball: 1) Don’t make Ziegler get up and down in the same outing. He got shelled last year with the Red Sox when he had to pitch in a second inning. SSS but when a guy’s 37 you need to pay attention to this type of trend. 2) Don’t pitch Tazawa against the Blue Jays. Somehow that team can see him tip his pitches and no one else can. His career splits vs. TOR / not vs. TOR are unbelievable. And yet John Farrell completely ignored them. Otherwise, I don’t agree with @rounders that he’s completely cooked. He’s also reunited with his favorite pitching coach, Juan Nieves.
It’ll be interesting to see if the top three relievers in the Marlins’ pen can outperform the top three former Marlins in the Padres’ pen this year.
Will the Marlins have many leads to give to this bullpen?