The Nationals Have a Depth Problem

If baseball teams had 10 man rosters, the Washington Nationals might be the team to beat heading into 2017. With an enviable group of star talent, the top of the Nationals roster compares favorably with just about any other group in MLB. For instance, here are our projections for the just the 10 best players on the Cubs, Dodgers, and Nationals, who we have forecasted as the three best teams in baseball.

Best 10 Players
Name Team WAR
Max Scherzer Nationals 5.9
Bryce Harper Nationals 5.7
Stephen Strasburg Nationals 4.4
Anthony Rendon Nationals 4.0
Trea Turner Nationals 3.6
Daniel Murphy Nationals 3.1
Gio Gonzalez Nationals 2.8
Adam Eaton Nationals 2.4
Joe Ross Nationals 2.3
Tanner Roark Nationals 2.1
Total 36.3
Name Team WAR
Kris Bryant Cubs 5.7
Anthony Rizzo Cubs 4.7
Jon Lester Cubs 4.5
Jake Arrieta Cubs 4.1
Addison Russell Cubs 3.7
Jason Heyward Cubs 3.4
Kyle Hendricks Cubs 3.2
Kyle Schwarber Cubs 2.9
Ben Zobrist Cubs 2.9
John Lackey Cubs 2.8
Total 37.9
Name Team WAR
Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 7.7
Corey Seager Dodgers 5.0
Justin Turner Dodgers 3.7
Joc Pederson Dodgers 3.5
Rich Hill Dodgers 3.2
Yasiel Puig Dodgers 3.1
Yasmani Grandal Dodgers 2.7
Kenta Maeda Dodgers 2.7
Kenley Jansen Dodgers 2.4
Julio Urias Dodgers 2.3
Total 36.3

Despite Steamer’s pretty pessimistic projections for both Adam Eaton and Tanner Roark, the Nationals 10 best players project to create as much value as the Dodgers 10 best players, and are almost even with the Cubs, whose total includes a pretty big bounce back from Jason Heyward. There’s enough room to quibble with forecasts for guys like Heyward or Roark that the +1 WAR gap between the Cubs and Nationals isn’t large enough to be a meaningful difference. Based solely on the best players on each team, we effectively have a three way tie at the top.

But if you look at overall projected WAR on our depth charts, you’ll notice the Dodgers and Cubs both at around +53 WAR, while Washington comes in at +46, closer to the Giants than the other two division favorites in the NL. While the Cubs and Dodgers have stacked talent upon talent, the Nationals enter 2017 heavily reliant on their frontline players to carry them back to the postseason.

In fact, it’s hard to find a legitimate contender with as weak a group of reserves as the Nationals. While most of the focus of late has been on their bullpen and whether they’ll acquire a new closer, the Nationals bench is the more glaring weakness.

If Opening Day was tomorrow, the Nationals five-man group of backup position players would look something like this.

Nationals Projected Bench
Name Position Bats wOBA WAR
Jose Lobaton C Switch 0.295 0.5
Clint Robinson 1B Left 0.319 0.2
Stephen Drew IF Left 0.307 0.4
Chris Heisey OF Right 0.300 0.2
Michael Taylor OF Right 0.290 0.1

Granted, most teams aren’t going to get large WAR projections from their backups, since there isn’t enough playing time to allow them to rack up a lot of value in most cases, but of any contender in baseball, you’d actually expect the Nationals to have the most opportunity to get value from their non-starters. Because their everyday guys are not really everyday guys.

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Bryce Harper, as prodigious a talent as he is, has not exactly proven to be the most durable of franchise players yet. He did average 150 games played the last two seasons, but he played in just 100 in 2014 and 118 in 2013. Last year, he reportedly played through shoulder and wrist problems, though perhaps due in part to his team’s lack of depth, he didn’t land on the disabled list.

Likewise, Anthony Rendon played 156 games last year, but remains something of a health question mark, having missed half of the 2015 season, and struggling with lower-half issues throughout his college and early professional career. And those are the two returning hitters from last year’s team that were most often in the line-up.

Daniel Murphy spent most of September on the bench trying to treat a glute injury that he admitted “may be recurring” as he gets older. Jayson Werth is 37 and has spent a good chunk of his career battling injuries. Likewise, Ryan Zimmerman played in 115 games last year, and that was his highest total in three years.

And even if Werth and Zimmerman are healthy, there still are questions about whether either should be regulars on a team trying to win in 2017. Both project to produce less than +1 WAR in over 500 plate appearances, with Steamer seeing them as well below average players at this point in their career. ZIPS is even harsher on the pair, projecting both as replacement level players in 2017. The other elite teams in baseball don’t have one guy in their line-up that projects this poorly, much less two.

And the Nationals seem to be compounding the problem of having two older players with questionable projections by having no real internal options if they play as poorly as the forecasts expect. For all the talk about Zimmerman’s -1.3 WAR last year, that total was almost matched by Robinson (-1.2 WAR) in half the plate appearances; on a rate basis, one could argue that Robinson was the worst player in Major League Baseball last year.

A 1B/PH who can’t run and puts up a 70 wRC+ usually doesn’t get an uncontested roster spot heading into the next year, but the Nationals haven’t even bothered to bring in anyone who could take Robinson’s place, or fight him for a job in spring training. If they decided that Robinson wasn’t good enough to roster again this year — and ZIPS projects him as a below replacement level player, by the way — then they’d currently have to turn to someone like Matt Skole, a 27 year old who Steamer projects for an 88 wRC+ in 2017. ZIPS thinks Skole is a little better than Robinson, but that’s like saying a stab wound is preferable to a gunshot; if either of these guys are playing much in 2017, the Nationals will be bleeding wins.

And this was a winter where left-handed 1B/OF depth was both plentiful and cheap. The Mariners had to take Yovani Gallardo’s negative-value contract just to dump Seth Smith, whom they didn’t want to pay $7 million to. Brandon Moss got 2/$12M from the Royals, but had to take most of the money in 2018 on a backloaded deal to even get that. Either of them would have been real upgrades for Washington, probably adding a win or so to the Nationals ledger for $6 or $7 million while providing a floor to ensure that the team’s season isn’t sunk by getting -3 WAR from their first baseman again.

And that’s just dealing with the issue of the older guys who are currently miscast as everyday players; this says nothing about the strategic limitations that Dusty Baker will be saddled with by trying to response to match-ups with this limited group. Want to pinch-hit for the pitcher in the middle innings? Okay, who do you send up? Robinson, I guess, even though he’s an average-at-best hitter. Heisey, who last put up a wRC+ north of 100 in 2011, is the option against lefties, though not a very good one.

Taylor (or Brian Goodwin, if they decide to swap out fifth outfielders) is on the speed and defense guy on the roster, but he’s actually not a very good baserunner, so the team doesn’t even have a good pinch-running option, and because of Werth’s age and deficiencies, he’s probably more effectively used as a defensive replacement late in games. Which means you can only pinch-run him for Werth or you have to do a double-switch, which requires putting two of these bad bench players into the game at the same time.

A few months ago, Kenley Jansen thought he was going to Washington, who had reportedly put $85 million on the table for him to come pitch the ninth inning. Instead, Jansen re-signed with the Dodgers, and the team has since spent $3 million to bring back Stephen Drew before now acting like they are out of money. They got outbid by the Rockies for Greg Holland, who got all of $7 million guaranteed from Colorado, and Moss went to Kansas City for that 2/$12M deal that would have made all kinds of sense for Washington.

Maybe they’ll end up being the team that lands Pedro Alvarez, who would still represent a real upgrade over Robinson as the non-Zimmerman 1B on the roster. Maybe they’ll sign Angel Pagan to act as a decent switch-hitting bench OF option, and this group won’t look quite so poor heading into the season. But more likely, given the Nationals recent benches, this is what they’re going to roll into the year with, and they’ll bet their postseason chances on total injury avoidance.

Stars and scrubs can work pretty well if your stars stay healthy and you a bunch of interesting role players from your farm system. But the goal of stars and scrubs is to not actually have scrubs, betting on your staff to find useful +1 WAR players at reduced prices so that you can spend money on big money stars instead. The Nationals ownership has shown a willingness to spend on premium players, but by ignoring the back end of the roster, they have set themselves up for potential trouble if Plan A doesn’t work out.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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Dean
9 years ago

In 2014, Mike Rizzo signed Nate McLouth for $10.75M over two years. McLouth batted .173 with 1 HR in 139 at bats. Rizzo is gunshy about paying bench players after that.

jpgMember since 2020
9 years ago

This is why I think the Mets take the NL East with neutral injury luck or better. The Mets don’t have quite the star power at the top of their roster but hold a massive edge in depth. They’re third, fourth, and fifth outfielders – say Bruce, Conforto and Lagares – are all better than Werth. Even their sixth outfielder, Brandon Nimmo, is someone Zips likes better than Werth. Flores and Reyes are super utility guys who, if pressed in to every day roles, could produce at or near league average level. The have guys like Gsellman and Lugo who could step in hold fort if pitchers start to break, whereas the Nats had those types of guys but traded them for Eaton. The most glaring need for the Mets is in the bullpen but that’s a weak spot for the Nats too.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
9 years ago
Reply to  jpg

I certainly agree the Mets have a significant depth advantage but some of this reasoning seems a little fannish to me. Counting on Wright to be a regular is unwise, and with Reyes getting most of the starts at 3B and Flores occasionally platooning at 1B the infield depth isn’t as impressive. Outfield depth is strong no matter how you look at it. Pitching, well, I’m not sure that having Seth Lugo around really constitutes an advantage.

jpgMember since 2020
9 years ago

Well I’m certainly not counting on Wright as a regular but Reyes and Flores are far more capable fill ins than Stephen Drew would be if Rendon went down. And Lugo is nothing special but he more than held his own down the stretch last year. He’s probably seventh on the depth chart and you can do a lot worse. Who’s the next man up for the Nats if someone goes down? A.J Cole?

mockcarrMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  jpg

It could be Voth, then later in the year Fedde.

EasyenoughMember since 2016
9 years ago

What’s the underlying issue? Do they want to use the money the Orioles are holding up? If so, why sign Drew? Are they building a good clubhouse atmosphere? Inquiring minds want to know.

willl
9 years ago
Reply to  Easyenough

Clint Robinson must be the world’s greatest clubhouse presence, because there’s no other explanation how he’s managed to stay with the club for 3 years now despite there being dozens of better options available.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
9 years ago

The painful thing about it is that going into the 2016 season Rizzo was quoted talking about how he realized that the 2015 bench was too thin, and that fixing that was a major point of emphasis in that off season. Well, I’m not sure that the 2016 bench was actually any better than the 2015 version. And I’m damn sure that the 2017 bench is shaping up to be worse. For a GM who seems to be otherwise very smart, going cheap on the reserves seems like such a pound foolish thing to do!

PC1970Member since 2024
9 years ago

They sound like the 2014 Tigers. Stars & scrubs & awful bullpen.

jaykaydeeMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

They don’t have a “proven closer” but this is a very good bullpen – Kelley is one of the better relievers in baseball, Treinen last year figured out how to get lefties out, Solis was good enough (2.78 FIP/10.3 K/9) they felt fine trading away Rivero, and Koda Glover has future-closer stuff. There’ll be good relievers that open the year in AAA – they could use another back-end arm, but depth in the pen is not their problem.

BurleighGrimesMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

TBF the Nationals have a better & deeper bullpen than people assume, they just lack star power in that department. It’s sort of the opposite of the rest of their roster.

Pig.Pen
9 years ago

This is a pretty pessimistic outlook, wouldn’t say it’s necessarily wrong, but 3.6 WAR out of Trea Turner would be great, yet still a significant downgrade from what he did last year. SSS, I know, but he’s going to move to a more defensively challenging position, where bats are harder to find. 3.6 WAR feels closer to his basement than his ceiling, much closer. Still, they need to find another bat, maybe two for the bench and/or replace Zimmerman and Werth.

Jason BMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Pig.Pen

“3.6 WAR feels closer to his basement than his ceiling”

I know he had a *fantastic* debut last year and the sky’s the limit for Turner, but that’s now basements/floors work. There may be 10-ish position players with a legitimate 3.6-win floor.

HarrisonH
9 years ago

Not saying depth isn’t an issue, but Isn’t Murphy the backup 1B with Difo at 2B in the mix as the replacement for a Zim injury?

jaykaydeeMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  HarrisonH

Both Murphy and Drew will see time at 1B, yes. I am skeptical that Robinson opens the season on the roster.

Noah BaronMember since 2016
9 years ago

They definitely do have a depth problem, and it’s part of the reason I expect the NL East to be a close race. Still, the Nationals have very very impressive talent at the top of the roster, which is a pretty good way to mask poor depth.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago

Of the 20 years D.Baker has been a NL club manager, before he took over a STACKED Nationals team last year, he has made the playoffs 7 times. 3 of those times his teams were swept (including a 1-game WC w/ the Reds). 2 of those times his team only won one and two games. So of those 20 years he has managed (before last year), he has only made it past the first round of the playoffs twice. He has won “manager of the year” more times than he has made it past the first round of the playoffs.

Depth is definitely a problem especially when Harper and Strasburg more often than not will not stay healthy for a full season. All these crazy projections for Trea Turner but do we really know? also I don’t think they go anywhere with Dusty Baker.

EasyenoughMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

Seems Dusty’s problem in the playoffs last year was only having two pitchers. I’m a congenital manager skeptic, but Dusty doesn’t seem to hurt much and in the regular season, especially on the soft stuff like the locker room, he seems above average. Not sure it’s fair to demand a top three coach for your team. And it’s probably not that important unless you have a novel and avant-garde roster construction.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

“All these crazy projections for Trea Turner but do we really know?”

You can play the do we really know game with everyone’s projections.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

Oh ok thanks for the info…How wise you are…
You always troll people. Do you ever have original thoughts about the ARTICLE? You can respond to my opinions all the time but I’m NOT the AUTHOR, I just like fantasy baseball. Get a life dude and get a better handle too while you’re at it.

Will H.
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

That escalated quickly

Baltar
9 years ago
Reply to  Will H.

Probably sat in Juice’s craw for a long time and finally leapt out. I know the feeling.

Jason BMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

So many haphazard caps just THROWN about wildly. I like it. It’s like Elaine’s argument with Jake Jarmel about where to PUT the exclamation points that later bled into her overzealous editing of his book…

Lippman: I was just going over the Jake Jarmel book and I understand you worked with him very closely.

Elaine: Yes, yes I did.

Lippman: And, anyway I was just reading your final edit, um, there seems to be an inordinate number of exclamation points.

Elaine: Well, I felt that the writing lacked certain emotion and intensity.

Lippman: Oh, “It was damp and chilly afternoon, so I decided to put on my sweatshirt!”

Elaine: Right, well…

Lippman: You put exclamation point after sweatshirt?

Elaine: That’s that’s correct, I-I felt that the character doesn’t like to be chilly…

Lippman: I see, “I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark bar didn’t come out!” Exclamation point?

Elaine: Well, yeah, you know how frustrating that can be when you keep putting quarters and quarters in to machine and then *prrt* nothing comes out…

Lippman: Get rid of the exclamation points…

Elaine: Ok, ok…

MatthewMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

“I’m NOT the AUTHOR, I just like fantasy baseball”
“Get a life dude”

*Pick one*

doffbhoya123
9 years ago

there’s been talk that budget overruns on the Nats’ spring training complex could be causing them to keep their player spending down…. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/01/19/could-the-nationals-spring-training-project-be-affecting-their-offseason-spending/

mockcarrMember since 2016
9 years ago

They probably could still sign Lind or Morrison.

mockcarrMember since 2016
9 years ago

Goodwin has a very good shot at being more useful than Taylor.

jaykaydeeMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  mockcarr

Definitely. Both Taylor (99) and Heisey (100) put up league-average wRC+ against LHP last year, and Heisey is one of the better pinch-hitters out there (career .257/.314/.563 line and 131 wRC+) while Taylor is godawful as PH (career .050/.095/.200 line – 1 for 20 with 1 BB and 10 K). Taylor is passable as depth given his defense and pop against lefties, but I’d bet on Goodwin’s lefty bat being on the roster first – 44 PAs isnt’ much, but a 127 wRC+ at AAA after a couple years in the wilderness is suggestive that he may have finally put it together.

bennythemet
9 years ago

This is the main reason the Tigers never won a title. Dave D never even bothered signing guys to minor league deals as depth.

jaykaydeeMember since 2018
9 years ago

While I’m also worried about Clint Robinson – though I’d be surprised if he ends up being the option, there – I think the projections underrate Stephen Drew’s importance and productivity. Small sample aside, Drew looked *fixed* last year – he put up a career-high hard-hit %, and just as importantly, his soft-hit % was back down at his career-typical rates, not the 20%+ of his lost years with the Red Sox and Yankees. Importantly, Drew slots in as a backup to every single infielder – and in Murphy’s case, can allow him to move over to 1B for less wear and tear.

If Drew reverts to not being able to square the ball up, or has lingering inner-ear problems, things get worrying in a hurry. But if he’s anything like the player he was both last year and for the rest of his career save 2014-15, he is probably going to get 350-400 PAs of good-defense, above-average hitting production. And in that case the situation looks a lot better.

BurleighGrimesMember since 2026
9 years ago

I feel like Rizzo & co. have been unusually reticent about signing guys to minor league deals or trying to sign low risk depth pieces. Maybe my memory is off but it certainly feels that Dave is right and the Nats have simply de-prioritized depth. It makes their roster hard to predict / prone to high variance outcomes.

John Autin
9 years ago

Great observation, Dave. But then, we’ve always known the Nats had feet of clay. 🙂