The Shreds of Some Platoon Insights

I’ll warn you up front: this article is going to be a loose description of some research I’m working on, plus a copious amount of rambling. I’ve been looking for non-handedness platoon effects a lot recently. Partially, it’s because they’re fun to look at. It’s also because the Giants seem to be using some non-handedness platoons to good effect this year — they’re certainly doing more than just picking left or right based on the opposing pitcher.

I haven’t finished exploring this one yet. So why write an article about it? People like to read articles — but also, I get a lot of good ideas from reading the comments (this being perhaps the only site on the internet where that’s a reasonable sentence) and I could use some inspiration in terms of more things to do here. Without further ado, let’s talk inside/outside splits.

Listen to a game, and you can’t miss it. Announcers will tell you that some players are adept at taking an outside pitch and hitting it the other way, or turning on anything inside and giving fans some souvenirs. I split the plate into thirds, then used those thirds to define three zones: anything on the inside third or off the plate inside is “inside,” anything on the outside third or off the plate outside is “outside,” and the rest is the middle.

Here’s something right off the top: Bryce Harper has destroyed inside pitches this year. He’s seen 441 of them and produced 22 runs above average. That counts good takes as well as solid contact, but his batting line is spectacular, too — .367/.480/.735, good for a .497 wOBA. Give him something he can pull, and it’s all over but the crying.

If you can manage to stay on the outer third, you have a better shot. He’s seen 864 pitches out there (pitchers aren’t dummies) and produced 9.2 runs above average, a far lesser line. That’s still solid — he’s an MVP candidate — but it’s nowhere near the scorched-earth stuff he manages on inside pitches.

You could stop here and say “hey, pitchers shouldn’t challenge him inside.” That’s not really how pitching works though. Sure, there are some pitchers who can dot both corners with aplomb, but that’s not the norm. Most pitchers have a strong tendency one way or the other. Jacob deGrom, for example, throws three times as many pitches inside to lefties as he does outside. He locates to his glove side, it works for him, and that’s that.

He’s an extreme example, but many pitchers have a preferred side they throw to, batter identity notwithstanding. If you cut out pitches down the middle, Tyler Glasnow is 60% inside pitches and 40% outside pitches. Zack Greinke ventures inside only 20% of the time — he lives on the outer third 80% of the time (again ignoring the middle, which I’m doing to make the numbers all add to 1).

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One difficult thing about parsing these numbers: pitcher handedness is strongly correlated with location. Pitchers mostly work to their glove side, which means that pitches on the outer third are mostly lefty-lefty. Harper, for example, has only seen 102 inside pitches from lefties this year. He’s been great against them — 3.8 runs above average and a .364/.462/.545 line. But that’s worse than his production against all inside pitches, and it raises a question I’m still working on: how can you tease out handedness effects from location effects when the two are clearly correlated?

The most obvious solution is to simply ignore lefty pitchers in my data, and that’s what I’m doing as a first pass. That approach has its shortcomings — it cuts down on sample size considerably, for example — but to simply get some ideas down on paper, it felt like a reasonable first pass.

A few findings on lefty/righty data: Harper is still the best, and he’s hardly alone. Lefties do better on pitches inside than pitches away. In fact, the average player (weighted by plate appearances) is roughly 0.7 runs better per 100 pitches when comparing inner third to outer third. That’s the equivalent of 30 or so points of wOBA, or 20 points of wRC+.

Average isn’t particularly interesting. If all hitters are better on inside pitches, then who cares? You can just ignore any global effect like that, because it will already be baked into results. Inside pitches are, on average, inherently less valuable to opposite-handed batters. I’m more interested in whether this is a batter skill that varies from player to player though, so let’s look into that.

There’s a giant difference between Trevor Larnach (a Harper-esque 4.1 runs per 100 pitches inside, a disastrous -1.7 runs per 100 pitches outside) and Ben Gamel (-2.7 runs per 100 pitches inside, +1.5 per 100 pitches outside). That’s easily the difference between unplayable and solid contributor — if you can isolate a pitcher who throws inside to lefties, Larnach will be great and Gamel will be miserable.

To figure out how much this effect matters, you could do some simple math. Take deGrom as one extreme. Of all the pitches deGrom throws to lefties, 60.8% are inside; only 20% are outside. The average righty throws 32.3% of their pitches to lefties inside and 45.1% outside. That means that Larnach gets an extra 28.5% inside pitches, and sees outside pitches 25.1 percentage points less frequently, when facing deGrom. Compared to his normal overall batting line, that’s the equivalent of adding 1.5 runs per 100 pitches he sees against deGrom, or roughly 65 points of wOBA. That’s a big deal, though not as big of an increase in odds as facing deGrom is a decrease. He’s a good pitcher, as it turns out.

We could, in theory, go through the whole league looking for matchups like this. But we need to do one key thing first: check whether this is random variation or a real effect. You can’t just look at a split and declare its effects to be predictive of what will happen in the future. This one sounds like it might be a real thing, sure, but that’s not good enough. Day/night splits might sound good enough to some, or home/road, or after eating bacon/after eating eggs.

I ran a year-over-year correlation check to see whether the difference in a player’s inside and outside prowess in one year was correlated with that same difference in year two. Last season always makes things difficult, so I ran it over a few different years. Here’s 2020 vs. 2021, with the minimum sample size halved in 2020:

Doesn’t look good! That’s only a 0.01 r-squared, a comically low number. Honestly, though, I expected that data to be bad. It’s way too noisy — 2020 was just so short! Adding a 400-pitch minimum and looking at 2018 vs. 2019 makes for fewer data points, but it doesn’t make the data particularly better; it still looks so much like randomness that I won’t bother showing it, but there’s a 0.05 r-squared, ever so slightly better. That makes sense — to really tease out this effect, you’d want big multi-year samples and better data than simple pitch values.

Where do I go from here? I’m not quite sure, but I’m reasonably sure there’s something worth finding when it comes to pitch location. Since the start of the Statcast era in 2015, Kyle Seager is two runs better per 100 pitches on inside pitches than outside. Eric Hosmer is nearly a run worse against inside pitches, largely because he’s just so good at taking outside pitches and poking them to left; he’s fifth among all lefties when it comes to value added on outside pitches.

Run value isn’t a great metric of this inside/outside success. It’s a noisy statistic, because so much of it is outside the batter’s control; face a string of obvious balls, and your run value will go up. It also suffers from the same problems as any small-sample statistic that looks at results; a few seeing-eye singles getting through can be the difference between a bad and good set of 100 pitches. I’m planning on going back over this more cleanly — either by substituting in expected outcomes (via xwOBA) for batted balls or perhaps by looking for high-value batted balls and whiff rate rather than any outcomes at all.

So there’s more to do! But I thought I’d share this intermediate step, because I’m fairly sure that it’s worth delving into further. I think teams are doing some version of platooning based on pitch location. When done right, it’s a big deal; some players this year show a bigger location split than their handedness split. That’s not to say it is a bigger true-talent gap, or certainly that every player has it.

In fact, I’d guess it’s a small effect overall in most every case. But there are very likely some players whose swing lines up well with certain parts of the zone, and I’m reasonably certain that teams are finding ways to optimize their lineups using it. For the subset of players that is near average but with large splits, this could be the difference between a bat you want in the lineup and one you’d rather avoid. I haven’t come close to cracking it yet — but I’m hoping that I’m on the right track.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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artkarnMember since 2020
5 years ago

It seems an even more logical platoon variable would be batters success against pitch types (fastball, curve, etc.) verse pitchers frequency of that type. The old adage of a fastball hitter or a slider chaser.

MRDXolMember since 2021
5 years ago

my main thought is that just inside/outside is simply much too broad to draw conclusions, in part because it’s too obvious— if a hitter is fantastic inside and terrible outside, the league will learn that quickly. Hitters who can only cover one side of the plate won’t last long unless they adjust— in which case that previous split will no longer be true.

I suspect, based on the recent pitching trend to work more vertical than horizontal, that you might find some better data based on up/down combined with pitch type.

Mr. RedlegsMember since 2020🏆 MVP
5 years ago

Announcers love to talk about left handed hitters crushing low and inside pitches but never mention it for righties. Does your data show that to be true?
Also, would love to see the splits for Freddie Freeman. His swing looks so perfectly engineered to crush inside.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

I think looking at expected outcomes is a good next step and I’m looking forward to seeing the results! I’d have the inclination to look at wOBACON (and/or xwOBACON) as well, to maybe separate out swing decisions and contact quality? It might be interesting to see if certain hitters struggle with just identifying pitches to swing at depending on pitch location, or if it’s mostly down to differences in contact quality when they do connect. As others mentioned, I also wonder if looking at more zones (up & away, down & in, etc.) would reveal anything more significant, though that would likely introduce further sample size-driven noise.

I’d also be interested in just reading some analysis of the Giants’ lineup decisions at more length (why did they run out Lineup A vs. Right-hander X but Lineup B vs. Right-hander Y?, etc.) – you mention their smart platooning here and other baseball analyst types have brought it up a lot this season as well, but I’m still not *exactly* sure what they’re doing differently, beyond basing their decisions on “things” besides just handedness matchups. Selfishly I just want to know more about how the Giants are doing this, but it also might reveal something about these platoon effects!

random Colorado guy
5 years ago

Your comments about DeGrom interested me, because he seems to throw inside a lot without actually hitting anybody. His career HBP rate (roughly 1 per 240 batters faced) is way below the NL average of about 1 per 90 BF. What are the inside/outside splits of some of the pitchers who hit opponents at way above the average rate, like Charlie Morton (career 1 HBP per 50 BF, and well over that this year) or Johnny Cueto (1 per 75, although currently having an “off year”) or Chris Sale (1 per 67) or Carlos Martinez (1 per 69, although for the last couple of years he has seemed to have no idea where the ball is going, period)?

Dominikk85Member since 2020
5 years ago

Shouldn’t a batter who is very good inside or outside use his batting stance to adapt that and make his hot zone more middle?

For example if you are good away stand further off the plate and if you are very good inside stand closer to the plate and make the outside pitch your middle of the plate.

BryzMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

Some guys already do that. I distinctly remember Brandon Moss said he stood close to the plate to make middle pitches appear inside and outside pitches appear middle.

ringadingking
5 years ago

love where this is going, great job Ben

Greg SimonsMember since 2016
5 years ago

This is intriguing, ben, and I would love to see more research on this, though I don’t have specific suggestions.

I’m certainly curious what the Giants and other teams are doing internally that the public doesn’t know about in this regard.

And lastly, I know it’s just a theoretical, but anyone who made eating bacon and eating eggs mutually exclusive would be a monster!

TheWiking
5 years ago

I like where this is headed. Instead of eliminating LHP, I’m wondering if you could do the analysis on same vs same matchups. It might further limit the sample size (lose the RHP on LHB but get the LHP/LHB), but I think it could control for the presentation of the pitch to the batter. As a righty batter, an inside pitch from a RHP probably took a very different path to that place than an inside pitch from a LHP.

Another thing I’m curious about (and building on artkarn’s comment) would be pitcher style. You have pitchers who pursue vertical separation (four-sear/curveball types) and those who pursue horizontal (sinker/slider). I’d posit that different batters fare better against each; my thought is that items like hand height, approach angle and other “style” elements of batters are predictive of success. As a manager, you could make a prospective decision about batters based on this.

I also have two other macro thoughts here. I’m a little worried about the correlation between pitcher handedness and location. As a global framework for your work, you could come up with a short list of potential platoon scenarios (pitcher handedness, inside/out, horizontal/vertical style, release height, day/night whatever) and run a ridge regression on them. This would give you a short, ordered list of areas to focus on.

The second thought relates to the unwind of the platoon. With enough data, you could potentially identify neutral situations where a change in the game causes a manager to swap platoon partners. For example, the inside-seeking pitcher who started the game is replaced with an outside pitcher. The manager then swaps his platoon-mates. You’d need a pre-determined list of platoons to begin this analysis, but I haven’t figured out the full approach.

Excited to see what comes next!

MorboTheAnnihilator
5 years ago

I have 3 things to note. I’m leaving full data to back this up because the data doesn’t necessarily exist due to the length of his career but I’m convinced that Pujols is an extremely poor hitter mainly because he is prone to chase outside the zone low and away. If you look at all his stat cast numbers he’s basically exclusively attacked in that zone and still punishes everything else. The opposite hand effect of lefties pitching inside/glove side could explain his resurgence with the Dodgers.

The second point is that the data may be more quadrant based. It’s more difficult to cover both up and in and low and away while doing damage in both locations due to the likely necessity of needing different swings to combat those two pitches.

For my third point I would caution against using xwoaba or any of the publicly available xstats because these almost universally fail to include spray angle and it seems like the effect that you are looking for requires consideration of spray angle.

This last point is somewhat a subset of a larger theory that I’ve been mulling over for the last year or so. I suspect that a larger portion of “historic baseball knowledge” or baseball trueisms will turn out to be true in the next few years than we think true now or thought true even a couple years ago. My reasoning behind this theory is that the recent analytical developments of launch angle and spin rate in addition to velocity, like throwing 4 seam fast balls up in the zone, were the lowest hanging analytical fruit. They were the lowest hanging because they were the easiest to be quantified. Now, however, we are staying to see the development of seam shifted wake and spray angle coupled with launch angle as well as some teams experimenting with more advanced positioning data. These more recent developments in some instances, 2 seamers being effective, mirror historic baseball trueisms but are also much more analytically complex to analyze than the older stat cast data which is why there were initially dismissed as old wives tales.

mhartzell415Member since 2025
5 years ago

Great article Ben! Makes sense that teams run out lineups based on more than just handedness. A line from a previous Fangraphs article comes to mind (I’m paraphrasing): just because something isn’t significant within a season doesn’t mean it’s not significant. Hitters being better inside vs. outside certainly makes intuitive, so I think you have something here!