The Time for “Reach Out” Calls Is Here

As the calendar flips to June, it means just one thing to big league teams: there’s activity on the horizon. July means trade season, and June is the month to get ready for it. It can be a complicated process, but it starts with some old school front office work, as teams get in touch with each other to lay the groundwork for the insanity to come through what are commonly referred to as reach out calls.

Before such calls occur, teams prepare by assessing their 29 potential trade partners. For each team, needs and surpluses are identified. When I was with Houston, a group of people created matrices for each club, showing what those teams might need and which players might be available, as well as a snapshot of their payroll and any anticipated flexibility in that regard. For teams seen as buyers, did we have a player who fit their needs? For those likely to sell, did they have targets to help get us into the playoffs, or who could help us win a playoff series? For those on the bubble, both possible scenarios need to be prepared for.

The calls themselves are made by a variety of people, ranging from general managers to assistant GMs to other top lieutenants at the director level or higher. During my Astros tenure, assignments were based on relationships. I generally did somewhere between six and 10 of these calls because I knew the person on the other end of the phone best.

Prior to the call, a general outgoing message is agreed upon internally. If you are already in buying mode, you make that clear and let other teams know what part of the roster you are looking to fortify. A desire for more pitching, both in terms of starters and relievers, is nearly universal but sometimes specific needs, such as a backup catcher or a lefty bench bat, have been created by injuries and/or ineffectiveness. Sellers sometimes discuss specific rental-type players who are available right now. Sometimes, they simply let other teams know that they are open for business and receptive to ideas. For teams on the bubble, calls are received more than they are made, as those clubs use the next four to six weeks to decide which direction they are heading.

As of June 1, here is how I would conservatively categorize the 30 teams heading into call season:

Major League Teams After Two Months
Buyers Bubble Sellers
Astros Blue Jays Angels
Athletics Cubs Diamondbacks
Braves Giants Orioles
Brewers Indians Pirates
Cardinals Mariners Rangers
Dodgers Marlins Rockies
Mets Nationals Tigers
Padres Phillies
Rays Reds
Red Sox Royals
White Sox Twins
Yankees

That’s nearly two-thirds of the league getting ready to make their reach out calls and let other clubs know either what they are looking for or who is available. Meanwhile, the bubble teams are in receiving mode, ready to discuss both buying and selling scenarios, while the conversations themselves can help steer the future direction of those clubs as they begin to get a better understanding of both acquisition costs and what their potential trade chips might generate in return.

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The calls can vary in length. In general, one tries to connect with every club in the name of due diligence. A call between two future buyers can end with a quick mutual agreement that they don’t match up and an understanding to get in touch should either party have a creative flight of fancy that helps both teams. For others, it will be a longer talk. This year, I would guess few calls are likely to be longer than those held with the Cubs and Giants, who, depending on how the next month plays out, could be making a playoff push or could be in possession of some of the most attractive trade targets on the market.

In addition to the more official and organized reach out calls, there are the back-channel conversations. Some teams frown upon them, while others encourage them. These are between contacts, often below the executive level, who friendly with each other. These talks often also end up being wildly off message, though they can have the effect of sparking real discussions once their details are communicated upward. But more often than not they simply feed the rumor mill and lead to wasted follow-up calls as GMs and AGMs inform potential partners that the deal an underling said was open for discussion is actually a non-starter.

Reach out calls are a time for honesty. If the conversation leads to an idea that you would pursue further, you say so. The same applies if something is clearly in the no-go zone. If you don’t know, “I’ll take that to the group and get back to you,” is a perfectly acceptable response. It’s also time to reach for the stars. This is when teams will let Washington know that if the Nationals decide to move Max Scherzer, they would have considerable interest and indicate the level of prospect they’d be willing to discuss in such a deal. There’s nothing wrong with asking about players who on paper might seem unattainable; you never know what the response will be. During the reach out calls I did for the Astros in 2020, multiple teams asked me about impending free agents George Springer and Michael Brantley. Despite scuffling for a postseason spot at the time, the team wasn’t going to trade them. I told the person on the other end of the call just that, but I certainly couldn’t blame them for asking. Unfortunately, these kinds of conversations can also lead to bad rumors from those with looser lips, and all of a sudden, you see the headline “Team X discusses Max Scherzer with the Nationals.” That might be true, but it might also be part of conversation that was quickly shut down, making the headline misleading to fans of both teams.

While reach out calls themselves aren’t productive in a vacuum, they can set the tone for the conversations that begin to really heat up a month from now. They generate new ideas and help clubs on the bubble decide whether they are going for it or kick-starting a re-build. They’re also a lot of fun. Who wouldn’t want to play a little bit of the real-life version of fantasy baseball?





Kevin Goldstein is a National Writer at FanGraphs.

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Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago

Really appreciate this sort of “behind the scenes” look. I guess I had always considered the “calling to inquire” part of the equation, but not the “let’s mutually agree on the path of our franchise” discussion that needs to take place beforehand, so that everyone internally is singing from the same sheet music. You don’t want half indicating a buying stance and half indicating a sell stance depending on who you talk to. (Parents probably better understand this dynamic)

Broken BatMember since 2020
5 years ago

Enjoy your writing. It appears the 3 categories are based upon current record and your knowledge of expiring contracts. I really think the Cubs are in the seller box. Let’s assume everyone plays .500 ball until say 2 weeks before deadline. Nothing changes in standings. The Cubs sell if the offers are good; they stand par if they are not. They certainly don’t reach for a”guy” to help the chase. It’s not their plan. In other words the. Cubs are completely at the mercy of the league and those teams “going for it”. The good news as you reference is 67% of the teams still are chasing.

JimmyMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Broken Bat

I know the Ricketts are cheap, but if the Cubs are still at the top of the division at the end of the month then they’ve made it through the hardest stretch of their schedule and would have a hard time justifying selling. It’s very possible they stumble in this stretch and sell, but maintaining the status quo with 2 series against the Padres, 4 games in SF, 4 games in Queens, and 4 games in LA would be a success.

padres458
5 years ago
Reply to  Broken Bat

No way the Cubs sell if they are in first near the deadline, they will buy.

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  padres458

Second or even third place too

Greg SimonsMember since 2016
5 years ago

Really good stuff, Kevin. I hope someone from the Rockies reads this, realizes they should be sellers, and informs ownership.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Greg Simons

I would imagine that someone in the Rockies’ front office is aware of this, since they are currently 14 games back and the top three teams in their division all have 32 or more wins (only six teams total are at that point).

But Trevor Story is hitting way below his career norms, Charlie Blackmon has an enormous contract, German Marquez is walking too many batters, and Jon Gray is fine but not exactly dominating. CJ Cron looks good; he, Jon Gray, and Daniel Bard seem like the most likely trade pieces.

You know who is on pace for a 5+ win season? Nolan Arenado. Bet tons of teams would be interested in him. But it is perhaps too much to ask a team to deal players at the height of their value rather than at rock bottom. Which is why Trevor Story and German Marquez are Rockies and Arenado is a Cardinal.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

I know that we think that once the Dodgers / Padres / Cardinals / Brewers get their feet under them the Cubs and Giants will fade, but as of today they are both leading their divisions. I understand why they’re in the bubble category–both teams on paper are just not as good as the others–but it’s pretty absurd to see them there. I think it’s worth reflecting on what the front office’s expectations and strategy was going into the year, because it’s unlikely things have changed that much…either they way undershot in the offseason and they need to figure out why that is, or their ride is about to end.

Left of Centerfield
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

You could add Oakland to the list as well. Only 1 out of 38 Fangraphs writers picked them to win the division. And yet, there they are…in first place. Course they’re listed in the buyers category in the lists above, though I’m not sure what separates them from the Cubs and the Giants.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

The A’s situation was pretty straightforward, I think: Ownership told them they couldn’t spend any money in 2021. This is why Trevor Rosenthal and Marcus Semien got offered crazy contracts where 80% of the contract would get paid out in 2022 and 2023. And also why they are rolling with Elvis Andrus at shortstop.

Left of Centerfield
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

So based on that, I’m really confused as to why the A’s are in the buyers column…

Ade
5 years ago

cuz they’re in first place

baycommuterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Ade

Different places in the cycle. The A’s are in the fourth year of the Olson/Chapman competitive window and among the regulars only have Canha going into free agency. The Giants and the Cubs both have several big free agents after this year.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago

Because Kevin’s analysis is about the state of the team, its roster, and it’s place in the standings, and not the willingness of ownership to spend money. The A’s should be a buyer, and if they aren’t it’s not because their assessment is different than ours – it’s because their owner’s priorities are different than ours.

AzizalMember since 2017
5 years ago

A lot of teams are more wiling to spend now vs during the offseason because of Covid uncertainty re: fans in seats and revenue. They still might not spend another dime, but the picture has changed so there’s no reason to assume either way.

AlbyMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He specifically said the next month will determine which direction they go. Be patient, grasshopper.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Alby

I understand why you are saying this, but I don’t think I disagree with you and believe I am talking about something slightly different.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I view the Cubs differently than the Giants, with the A’s in between the two.

With the Cubs, I would have been totally unsurprised to see them finish 1st, 4th, or anywhere in between. Coming into the season I saw maybe 6-8 games difference between all the non-Pirates teams in the central, so seeing them contending seems no surprise.

The Giants, on the other hand, were pretty widely expected to be 20-30 games back of two juggernauts and the two likely best teams in the NL. I would have given them maybe a 0.5-1.0% chance of taking the division. Even now they’re probably around 10%, even with their surprisingly strong play to date.

Oakland, to me, falls somewhere in between. Houston was expected to be reasonably good, and we (annually, wrongly) expect the Angels to be able to get out of their own way and contend at some point. I would say they’re closer to the Cubs than the Giants, mainly because the Astros are not on the same talent level as LAD and SDP. Still, that division is a complete 2-horse race, unlike the NL Central.

(Saying nothing at all of whether they will buy or sell, just whether they should be expected to remain in contention going forward. Anticipated division odds at this point I would say CHC like 30%, OAK 40%, SF 10%…of course FanGrapgs has a handy dandy playoff odds estimator also.)

Joe Joe
5 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

While SF division odds are low, they have already pocketed a decent amount of wins which gives them better playoff odds (via wild card) than the Cubs and the Athletics per FanGraphs odds estimator. Athletics probably should be a bubble team, but I’m guessing they are getting the benefit of the doubt based on past couple of years.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I dont think it’s unrealistic that the Giants are as good as the Brewers or any other WC contender as long as no one gets hurt. For all that national commentators kind of suck, Eric Karros was pretty spot on this weekend when he pointed out that the Giants just don’t have the depth of the Dodgers and Padres (but who does?): Their current roster can win some high-80s amount of games and be the 2nd wildcard, but if they lose any important parts they really don’t have anything to replace them with, and are further dependent on some resurgent dudes maintaining their resurgences.

And that brings up the real question of just how valuable it is to play the Dodgers or Padres in a wild card game for the pleasure of playing the other in a full series.

And also illustrates how much baseball should bring back the ‘can’t play your division-mate in the LDS’ rule that existed before the 2nd wildcard – that the Dodgers/Padres/Giants are fated to all play each other in the WC/LDS rounds if they continue to be as good as they have been is really dumb. We should seed the LDS by record.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Yeah, that’s the problem with comparing the Giants to the Brewers / Cardinals / Cubs. Per the playoffs odds page, the chances of winning the division:
Dodgers: 54.4%
Brewers: 43.4%
Padres: 42.6%
Cubs: 27.1%
Cardinals: 23.4%
Giants: 3.0%

The reason why Kevin put the Giants on the bubble is because there’s a general idea out there that once the Padres and Dodgers are back to full strength the Giants are toast. I actually am not so sure about that! It seems likely that the Giants are the fourth best team in the NL, behind the Mets. But their path to the playoffs is undoubtedly much rockier than teams in the NL East and NL Central right now.

Me, I don’t really think selling is worth it unless someone really wants Kevin Gausman. They’ve banked enough wins that I think the right move is to see if you can get a couple outfielders and a couple relievers and bulldoze through and try and win the division. They have a ton of payroll space that they can use as leverage.

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

One thing that I guess annoys me is the Cardinals being favorited over the Cubs. They’re smoke and mirrors, note even the second or third most talented team in the division

Bartolo Cologne
5 years ago

Thanks for the fascinating inside look, Kevin. I’m curious, in your experience, how accurate were teams’ internal pre-evaluations of other teams? Was internal research consistently right about which clubs perceived themselves as buyers/bubble/sellers? And were teams also good at predicting what the other teams would be interested in seeking on the trade market?

Bartolo Cologne
5 years ago

Very interesting. Thanks for the reply!

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

Fascinating stuff. I have a hard time believing the Angels are putting themselves in the “seller” bucket already. There is perhaps a conversation to be had about whether the Angels *should* see themselves as sellers, but they’ve clearly been in win-now mode for a few years despite failing to actually, you know… win now. The AL West looks relatively weak compared to past seasons, the Angels have a couple superstar-level players and some potential close-to-the-majors prospect help, as well as an apparent disregard for the sunk cost fallacy. Even with Trout currently hurt, I think it’s possible they sneak into the playoffs, and that possibility seems like it’ll be enough to keep them from throwing in the towel on this season. Anb honestly, regardless of what logic and reason may say, I hope they do continue to go for it!

AlbyMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

They’re the Phillies of the American League — built to win now, except they don’t.

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  Alby

Coincidentally both have the two most expensive contracts in history on their roster. The league would love nothing more than to go with the NFL angle that paying great players is overrated, cheap and efficient roster building through the NCAA (either the draft or the many former NCAA stars floating on waiver wires or frozen out in FA) is the way to go

abgb123
5 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Which contract is one of the two most expensive contracts in history that is on the Phillies roster? I’m looking and I can’t find it, either in terms of AVV, length, per game or overall value.

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  abgb123

Appreciate the fact check. I didn’t look but assume I have been gotten got

The Other DougMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  abgb123

Bryce Harper’s $330M contract was the largest in MLB history (and in fact in North American sports history) at the time it was signed. That lasted for all of three weeks, until Trout signed his $426.5M extension. They were the two largest until Mookie signed a $365M extension with the Dodgers last summer, and this year Harper’s contract has also been surpassed by extensions given to Tatis and Lindor ($340M and $341M, respectively.) So SenorGato’s statement would have been true a year ago, but not anymore.

SenorGato
5 years ago

I really like your topics of choice and articles

Selling is for the birds, Cubs will be buying. I don’t know if you guys saw but Willy Adames landed Drew Rasmussen and someone else, there’s no selling trade coming to save the Cubs. They’ll take the picks on Baez or Rizzo, tops

What they need to add is velocity, the rotation is dead last and bullpen is 19th, and consider Garrett Cooper if not Trey Mancini

I want German Marquez
and Michael Fulmer for the pitching staff, make it happen! I expect internally Brailyn Marquez will had a ton of velo from the left side

This isn’t to say they won’t trade a player or two…Zach Davies, Alec Mills, Rex Brothers…

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Hate hate hate!

*shakes fist at invisible responders*

I don’t know what to tell yous guys. No clue why anyone would or could be shocked that a team with Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, Contreras, Hendricks, Kimbrel, etc are way more competitive than Disney was telling you to think. At some point ‘Mericans just need to realize that Disney is full of it, just wants your kids, money, and time

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Theories are interesting, would like to subscribe to newsletter, etc

SenorGato
5 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Whoa! One who uses words! It’s a pleasure

It fascinates me how generic the thought process was to think this team sucked going in. Everyone so easily bought/sold on so little, no doubt birthed from the same place that reduces prospects to their ranking on listicles etc etc.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

A brief study of shortstop fWAR:
Gleyber Torres: 1.0
Trevor Story: 0.9
Corey Seager: 0.8
Dansby Swanson: 0.7
Andres Gimenez + Amed Rosario: 0.7
Didi Gregorius + Nick Maton: 0.5
Francisco Lindor: 0.3
Elvis Andrus: -0.6

Freddy Galvis: 1.4

The Galvis-scension has begun!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Orioles are going to keep signing glove first, no-hit veterans on cheap deals and turning them into silver-medal-shortstops until the end of time.

kid
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

And who would have believed you if 2 months ago you said Gleyber Torres would be worth 1.0 fWAR almost exclusively due to his glove?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  kid

Yeah, and that’s probably wrong. Dude’s at -5 in OAA, which is much better for infielders at UZR / DRS.

Mario Gerzowitz
5 years ago

Great article. Who typically supplies information to mongers like Rosenthal? Are these “loose lips” from the lower ranks, and what do they get out of it?

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
5 years ago

Is that a consideration when you’re placing calls? Like “don’t call Bob at the Spiders, the last few times I talked to him it wound up on Jon Heyman’s Twitter”? Or even a preference to work with certain teams because they’re better and keeping secrets?

jazzpawMember since 2025
5 years ago

THIS is what I will never but would love to know!

mikecws91
5 years ago

How much false rumor-leaking would you say there is? Is it usually strategic, to improve the team’s market? Is it ever used to catch rats on the inside?

szielinskiMember since 2026
5 years ago

Rumors exist because team dealings hide behind an opaque window and teams often float BS to trick their fans and other teams.

kid
5 years ago

Gleyber Torres’ mysterious inability to drive the ball anymore has made the Yankees enter the Trevor Story sweepstakes. Torres hit 38 HR in 144 games in 2019. He has hit *5* total HR in his past 87 games between ’20 and ’21.

mike sixelMember since 2016
5 years ago

Good read! Thanks for the insight. I’d hope the Twins realize they are sellers at this point….

shaq_diesel
5 years ago

A Ketel Marte and Kiermaier swap makes a ton of sense. The money is roughly equal, but the DBs could add a TON of prospect talent. Brujan or Patino could headline, with maybe Joe Ryan and Kevin Padlo as some wheel grease.

jazzpawMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

Or, now bear with me here… if Tampa decides they want more offense in CF, just promote Brujan and play him there. It’s crazy, I know.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago
Reply to  jazzpaw

Sometimes/often prospects fail. If you have baseball’s best record, lost the WS in 6 games the previous year, and have the opportunity to add Marte a 5 win CF making half of Kiermaier’s salary this year, you should do it. Brujan is an excellent prospect. Marte is an excellent Major Leaguer.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

I think the only time the Rays have ever consolidated in the Erik Neander era was when they traded a couple of higher-risk arms and Justin Williams for Tommy Pham. And frankly, they’d be kind of crazy to deal Brujan for Ketel Marte since Ketel Marte is really a second baseman who keeps getting hurt playing the outfield. If you want an actual center fielder, get in line; the White Sox and Braves are way more desperate than the Rays, who have at least four players who can play center.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Marte was injured running to first, not playing the outfield. And CF is dangerous to all who play it. I can’t think of a CF who hasn’t been injured playing CF. It doesn’t mean they should be moved off the position.

The Rays have 4 players who can play CF, and there is a dearth of CF talent in baseball. That is precisely why they should upgrade. Use the game’s deepest minor league system to improve the Major League roster. If other teams want Kiermaier, Phillips and Margot (2 replacement players and a non-tender candidate) to play CF for them, that’s good news for the Rays. Because CF is their easiest upgrade. A 5 win CF, money offset by losing Kiemaier, 40 man roster crunch cleared. Brujan will be missed, but in all likelihood, he isn’t good enough to beat out Marte in CF or Lowe at 2b.

maximus74Member since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

yeah, the Rays aren’t looking to “match salaries” when trading Kiermaier

shaq_diesel
5 years ago
Reply to  maximus74

Okay. Get rid of Kiermaier’s salary without giving up cash or future talent. I’ll wait.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

I suspect they will hold Kiermaier another year, hope he rebounds, and then trade him.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He’s already been on the IL twice, and we are only 50 games in. He has a 60 wRC+. I think they should try to improve, not worry about whether they get a 30 grade prospect back if they eat 10 million this year, or a 35 grade prospect back if they 8 million next year.

3rd base looked to need an upgrade before the season started, but Wendle has that locked up. After trading Lowe, they made it clear they ride or die with Choi. Zunino is a monster. CF is their only area needing an upgrade.

JasonMember since 2020
5 years ago

Do the contents of those reach out calls get logged anywhere, so that folks can refer back to them? Sort of like a CRM, I suppose.

Thanks for these fascinating, behind-the-scenes articles.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Jason

I believe the Astros database hacking included some of these logs.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Who’d have guessed that Christopher Correa wouldn’t have been the biggest cheating Correa involved with the Astros.

VinnieDaGooch
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

Chris was worse

LenFuegoMember since 2025
5 years ago

Do clubs pay attention more to the performance of their team or their projections for the team when deciding whether to be a buyer or seller?

I look at a team like the Giants and although projection systems still think they have a relatively low chance of coming out on top in the NL West, and still are even somewhat skeptical of their chances of scoring a wildcard spot, don’t you have to let the so far remarkably outstanding performance of the team dictate that you be a buyer?

I.e., don’t you need to reward the players’ performance by backing them up with acquisitions that try to help them achieve what they are oh-so-nimbly trying to accomplish? I think I would really feel betrayed if I was, say, Buster Posey or Brandon Crawford playing my tail off and the Giants front office traded pieces away while their record suggests they are in the thick of a playoff race.

GammaDraconisMember since 2020
5 years ago

Given that Scherzer has 10-5 rights, would it be appropriate during a conversation with Washington to ask whether he’s willing to come to your team? I presume you can’t talk directly to him to ask.