The WBC in July
One of the main complaints about the World Baseball Classic is that it’s played in March. That creates at least two hurdles for the event in terms of mass appeal. One, fans aren’t conditioned to watch competitive baseball in March. Second, a lot of the players back out due to the upcoming grind of their regular seasons. While it’s possible that younger generations could eventually learn to expect competitive March baseball and that future players might regard the tournament with more gravity, neither outcome is certain.
The alternative that is often discussed is holding the tournament in July. Dave has written about this twice, both in 2009 and in 2013. His “March Madness” style idea is very appealing, because it wouldn’t be necessary to alter the schedule other than to cancel the All-Star Game. It also creates less of a time commitment and ratchets up the excitement. It’s a great solution in my opinion, and I heartily endorse it. But what if we wanted to play the entire tournament in July, with more or less its current structure? Impossible, you say? I don’t think so.
Let’s start with this year’s schedule.
- First Round/Pool A: March 6-9
- First Round/Pool B: March 7-11
- First Round/Pool C: March 9-13
- First Round/Pool D: March 9-13
- Second Round/Pool E: March 11-16
- Second Round/Pool F: March 14-19
- Semi-Finals/Finals: March 20-22
As you can see if you count it out, this makes for a 17-day tournament. The start times for Pools A, B and E are staggered to start earlier, primarily to give the Pool E winner time to fly from Tokyo to Los Angeles for the finals. Keep that in your back pocket for a minute.
What we need to do now is figure out how to squeeze 17 days of non-MLB games into July. Let’s walk through it, shall we?
Co-Opt the All-Star Break
The All-Star break is four days long. You would still have to cancel the All-Star Game in order to play the WBC in the middle of the season, so right there, we’re down to 13 days. I should note, however, that I’m advocating only for the cancellation of the All-Star Game itself. The league could still hold the vote, and still have the same process of naming starters and reserves. Why? Because there’s still money to be made here.
This is a secondary point, but walk with me a minute. The strategy here would be to partner with an eSports league. eSports is getting popular enough for some leagues to land TV deals. ESPN is covering eSports now, as well. Partnering with a league to have two of its marquee players play a video game of the All-Star Game would be a great way to (a) keep the All-Star Game vote sponsorship intact (though perhaps at a lower dollar total) and (b) catch the attention of a younger audience who perhaps don’t pay that much attention to baseball.
It might seem silly to list specific eSports leagues since we’re not exactly sure what the shelf of each league is, but leagues like League of Legends, Dota2 (Defense of the Ancients) and Counter Strike: Global Offensive are all popular currently. Four years from now, there probably will be others. Four years from now, virtual reality gaming could be a thing, and there may be an opportunity to play the game through VR, as well.
Bottom line: you can both cancel the All-Star Game and maintain some semblance of All-Star Game festivities/tradition, if you’re willing to get creative.
Start the Season A Week Early
There isn’t a player who will tell you that he needs every ounce of spring training. In a week or so, we’ll be seeing guys back out of spring games so that they don’t hurt themselves before the start of the regular season. So let’s just axe a week of it, or move up pitchers and catchers by a week, if the big business of Spring Training needs to keep churning. Start the season a week early, and you’ve account for all but six days of the 17 days required for the July version of the Classic.
Of course, there would need to be some concessions made by MLB teams in order to do this. Playing regular-season games for a week in March means that most of the northern teams won’t get to play at home on Opening Day. They’ll all have to start the season on the road, and then they can have their home openers at the time when Opening Day would normally be. This might be an annoyance for some teams, but would ultimately be a minor adjustment, as long as commissioner Rob Manfred could get all the owners on board. After all, teams don’t always start at home. If this is the season the northern teams don’t get to start at home, well, then they can start the season at home in (one of) the seasons between tournaments to make up for it.
Centralize the WBC in One Country
As we discussed above, the start of the WBC is staggered to allow for travel time ahead of the finals (and also perhaps to maximize the exposure for each host city, though I’m skeptical about the actual benefits of that). And it is cool that the tournament is played simultaneously on two continents. But if we centralize the tourney to one country, we get three days back. Now instead of the first round taking eight days, it can be over in five.
There could be other benefits to this, as well. By focusing the event on one country/region, it might be possible to celebrate the baseball culture of that country/region more effectively. The tournament could alternate between countries, probably starting with Japan. It could cultivate a real Olympic atmosphere, and that would hopefully draw more participation from the players and more press coverage.
This could help with attendance, too. WBC games have been sparsely attended in the past, it’s true, but I am of the belief that if games were played in July and had the buy-in from more players, the attendance problems would be largely solved. It might be possible to create more of a “March Madness” feel if all four pools began play at the same time. With only baseball on the sports calendar in July, TV ratings would likely improve as well.
Three Days To Go
So, we’re down to needing to squeeze three days into the calendar. There are a bunch of options here:
- Play more regular-season double headers.
- Reduce first-round Pool play from three games to two.
- Start the season another three days earlier.
- Move back the start of MLB’s postseason.
- Eliminate games from MLB’s regular season.
These options don’t need to be executed in isolation. I don’t have the magic sauce for these final three days, but one of them — or a combination of them — could definitely work. I’m loathe to recommend that the season be shortened once every four years. That removes a sort of uniformity from the game that I personally find appealing. Others have made the suggestion, though, and it’s a legit option. I doubt it goes anywhere, because it would cost the owners money, but it’s still a legit option.
To me, the important point is that when you initially discuss this sort of idea, it seems daunting to find 17 days in the calendar, but with a couple of simple modifications, you’re down to needing only to find three days. That seems a lot less daunting, right? The five options I’ve outlined probably aren’t even the only options to make this jigsaw puzzle fit.
The World Baseball Classic is a great tournament. And its failure to capture the hearts and minds of Americans may not matter. After all, as Isabelle Minasian recently reminded us over at The Hardball Times, the tournament’s purpose is to grow the game globally. And perhaps playing in July is simply a non-starter for the NPB and KBO. But maybe MLB and the WBC can have its cake and eat it, too. It is possible to play the WBC at a time of year when more people can pay attention and not sacrifice a huge chunk of MLB’s regular season. Commissioner Rob Manfred has proven himself open to new ideas. Perhaps he’ll be open to this one.
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There’s a chicken or the egg thing going on here. It’s obviously possible, if there was a will to do so, to fit the WBC in to the middle of the baseball season. The problem is that nobody cares enough about the WBC (I love the WBC, FWIW) to make the kind of moderately disruptive changes to the schedule it would require.
So essentially, you need to move it to the summer to get people to care more, but nobody cares enough to move it to the summer.
Moving it to June or July is better than what it is now but playing mid season brings its own complications like adding precious innings to arms, and upsetting rhythms that are in place, etc. Pitch limits are a good way to tamp down the effect of this.
I think some hybrid like splitting the tournament might be interesting also… like maybe playing the first or first and second rounds in March and then playing the semi and final rounds in July where the AS break would be… or some form of splitting it up like that… sort of how the WSOP splits up their main tournament to build excitement.
And let’s face it, no one cares about the actual AS game anyway. They are a relic in every sport now.
You could potentially shorten the first round by giving the semi-finalists a bye in the first round of the following tournament. Then you could have a 1-2 game play in round during Spring Training.
This. Use the spring to narrow it down to four teams, then have a little mini-playoff held conurrently alongside the MLB all-star game. Maybe semi-finals on Tuesday, and then WBC final and ASG on Wednesday.
Sure a handful of guys would have to choose one over the other, but it’s not like guys don’t already make up excuses to get out of AS games.
Hey, don’t confuse the MLB All-Star Game with the Pro Bowl or other All-Star Games! Baseball has by far the best All-Star game in North America! The Pro Bowl and NBA games are absolute jokes, and while the NHL game is now much better, they had to seriously adjust the normal game format in order to do so. Meanwhile, the MLB game is a lot of fun to watch.
I like the hybrid idea. Have the first couple rounds in March and then it allows for the build-up of “hype” around the game for the first half of the year. Then you play a 1 week series in July in place of the All-Star game.
I just don’t see how this is actually going to encourage competition. If I’m a good player in the middle of a pennant race, I would definitely rather rest than play.
If you saw the Canada/Dominican Republic game you wouldn’t say this. Not to mention that the game out-drew the average Marlins game by a ton – 27K to 21K.
No pennant race on now
The NHL All star game used to be the Stanley cup champion vs the NHL All Stars. My baseball idea is:
The all star game could be the World Series champion vs the winning country of the previous WBC.
Just imagine if Team USA won it and was able to roll out that team (or a team of eligible players) for 4 years?
(I’d personally like to see Team Cuba win)
I think this would be a good way to keep all the scheduling same but the stakes totally different.
It’s also a kinda good way to pay respect to the previous MLB season champion.
I dunno. WBC teams, while still better at baseball than 99% of humanity, pale in comparison to a complete MLB squad. Let alone the World Series Champion. Maybe Team USA might be competitive sometimes. Maybe. But most of the other teams are essentially MiLB squads that might have a handful of real MLB players on them.
Did you see the lineup the Dominican Republic put on the field last night? Cano, Machado, Nelson Cruz hitting 6th. Easily a contender in any major league division.
I’m comfortable saying the Dominicans would be by the best team in the MLB. Even if you stretch to think Cueto, CMart, Nova, Colon, Severino, Volquez are a thin SP squad, the relievers are insane.
For most teams its basically A-AA ball. DR, US , Japan, Mexico, PR might be AAA-MLB quality. Netherlands, Israel, Cuba, Venezuala may be AA-AAA
Then what about the potential players who qualify for both teams?
That’s my question too. On a WS champion odds are they will have some significant contributors from other countries putting those guys in a potentially awkward situation.
If the Olympic basketball teams are any indication, players will find a reason to back out no matter when you play the games. There’s a certain novelty to playing for your country that people either care about or don’t care about (or, may care about at some point and then not later on).
The WBC American team (as an example) won’t ever get to a place where we see Trout and Kershaw and Harper playing all together, for the same reason the 2016 Olympic Team didn’t have LeBron and Curry and Kawhi on it – the best athletes are humans, and not every human who gets paid to play a game will volunteer to play for free in an exhibition.
That might (MIGHT) change if it were a higher profile event instead of just a weird thing that happens during spring training. The basketball Olympics are a good comparison, but most players at least do a cycle or two with the national team; players might skip in a given year, but all the big names have played at least once or twice.
The biggest issue is the pitchers. Every inning for a major league pitcher feels like a round of Russian roulette sometimes, so there are always going to be pitchers and their teams not crazy about taking a few extra turns. The Nationals probably wouldn’t be super worried about Bryce Harper playing 8 or 10 games in the middle of the season, but another 15-20 innings for Scherzer are going to raise their blood pressure.
Players get paid for the WBC. Members of the winning team in 2013 each got about $121,000 (lesser amounts for the teams that didn’t win, obviously). And the better the player pool that signs up, the more revenue the event will create and the larger the prize pool for the players. WBC money will probably never by itself draw out the biggest talents who have guaranteed 8 and 9-figure contracts, but young guys playing for the minimum or top prospects working for Triple-A or 40-man salaries are incentivized to sign up.
The American team’s lineup today has nine guys who have been All-Stars. A former MVP is batting 8th. If people are complaining about people staying home, the $120K that incentivizes minor leaguers isn’t making a difference to those complaints, because All-Stars and excellent players are there.
The people who AREN’T there are the very, very best – Trout and Bryant and Kershaw and Harper, etc. And I don’t think there’s any chance we’ll see that level of talent on these teams, regardless of when it’s played or whatever incentive the WBC can offer – the money isn’t enough and the novelty isn’t enough, either.
Personally, I love the WBC and think there’s probably something wrong with you if you can’t enjoy a lineup like the one the US and the DR trots out there. But the complaints about players skipping exist, and I will forever, I think.
The logistics of scheduling an event of this magnitude in the middle of the season in all the different leagues throughout the world appears overwhelming. Just solving the pitching issue is mind-boggling. What do the non-participating players do? I just cannot see it happening but that should take nothing away from what it is now. It is real baseball being played by talented players who are actually trying to win, and it’s March! Anybody watching the enthusiastic crowds in the host countries cannot help but be impressed by the impact this event has in these countries and what it means to their players. While the US may never see this as anything more than a pleasant diversion, the rest of the world sees it as a chance to enhance their self-esteem. The Dominican Republic is world class in one sport. They cannot expect to compete with larger countries in the Olympics, for example, so this is their stage and I think that for many of them, even the stars, a victory here means as much as a World Series Championship.
There needs to be a bigger financial incentive for the best players to play. If MLB could kick in a larger amount of prize money, I think more of the better players would play. By my calculations, each player on the 2013 US team (lost in the 2nd round) only received about $8k in prize money. MLB players make more than $8k/AB.
Per Wikipedia:
By final standings
Champions – US$2,700,000
Runners-up – US$1,700,000
Semifinalists – US$1,200,000 (x 2 teams)
Eliminated in Second Round – US$700,000 (x 4 teams)
Eliminated in First Round – US$300,000 (x 8 teams)
Bonus for pool winners
First Round – US$300,000 (x 4 teams)
Second Round – US$400,000 (x 2 teams)
Teams are not going to trade a week of high-attendance games in July for an extra week of low-attendance games in late March. This problem would be especially exacerbated, because if it did take a full two weeks it would use up two July weekends.
The article says that the cold-weather teams would be upset because they cannot start at home. But it would likely be the warm-weather teams that would be more upset. Their attendance is also lower in April, and under any scenario starting the season earlier, likely involves them giving up summer home dates for early spring home dates.
Surprised I haven’t seen anything about Roberto Osuna and WBC yet. How much do you think the Jays were cringing watching that game against Italy? This is a kid with TJ on the resume and I am sure they want to limit his innings… 5 ER, 0 IP essentially in spring training – yikes!
No thanks.
I want to spend July watching MLB, not Chinese Taipei and Uper Volta.
As to the Northern teams not opening at home in March, I suspect it’s more complicated than that.They wouldn’t have March home games, but would have more home games in April for instance. I’m guessing they draw better in July than in April. So they’ll lose attendance anyway…
So, how do the major soccer leagues handle this?
Players in the English Premier League or La Liga or Seria A play for their club in league games, and (maybe) for their club in Champion’s League and FA Cup games, and for their country in World Cup qualifiers and confederation tournaments (e.g. EURO or African Cup of Nations). The games are scattered around the year to reduce the impact, and the club leagues schedule around delays when a team is (say) in an FA Cup semifinal when they were scheduled to be in a regular EPL game.
It seems like something similar could be worked out for the WBC.
Year-round schedules do great things for pitchers’ arms.
It needn’t be year-round; it could be over the same overall span (March to October) as the current system. Any given team only plays 3 series at most.
I think the real objection would be that spacing the games out too much allows teams with one dominant pitcher to use him more than is fair. Usage limits that don’t care how long ago the previous game was would help to avoid that.
No thanks, WS starts late enough already
“conditioned” or not, most serious baseball fans are fairly psyched about watching baseball games in march.
The difference between sports is pretty strange. Top hockey players want to play for their country every chance they get. Pre-season, mid-season, or eliminated from the post season.
What if they did the pool-play/qualifying now and then did the final 4 in July during a 10 day break? Teams can re-set their rosters for the July finals so you still get a high profile international event (which would be cooler than the ASG) and you’re only asking each starter for a game or two.
I would like to see the All-star game played the week after the World Series, complete with award ceremonies. Then the WBC starts right after that. Players aren’t rusty after a winter off, they’re in shape, arms are stretched out, and if they didn’t go deep into the playoffs, they’re rested.
Axing a week of Spring Training isn’t a good idea. While the hitters would be fine, the pitchers do indeed need the entire period to get ready for the regular season, especially the starters as they slowly build up their pitch counts.
Play the first round in March and the final rounds in July. There’s your three days and then some.
The biggest issue for the wbc is and always will be that teams make big investments in players and don’t want them to play and risk injury or fatigue. You think the dodgers want Kershaw to make 2-3 extra starts in the middle of the year when he could be resting? Especially considering that they intend for him to make postseason starts (6 if they made it to the WS and he started twice per round). If he makes 34 regular season starts, 3 wbc, and 6 postseason starts (probably this would be maximum) and averaged 7ip per start, that’s 301 innings pitched in the season. No way the dodgers allow that when they have 9 figures and their postseason hopes invested in him.
We saw a version of this when the Rays told Archer he couldn’t go past four innings regardless of pitch count/perceived fatigue. If it were the middle of the season and the alternative was rest and get ready for the second half (when you most need the rest) versus play in spring training games as is the alternative now, I bet they don’t even let him play.
The problem with holding it during the season is you are increasing the innings of participating pitchers, which the WBC really does a good job of preventing. These pitchers are essentially trading ST innings for WBC innings in a 1:1 ratio. That can’t happen in July unless you shorten the season.
The current WBC works fine except teams, fans and players need to get over the false narrative of WBC = increase of injury. It’s a myth that needs to be debunked.
The first round of the WBC is synced with a pitcher’s 3rd start of the spring. Therefore, whether a starter is pitching for Team USA or the Cardinals, the amount of pitches are both going to be in the 40-50 range over 3-5 innings. Then if the team advances, you throw 4-6 innings like you would in your 4th start and for a team in the finals, you’re looking at almost a regular season game, which is what happens in your 5th start of the spring.
As for position players, they generally play 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 4 games at this point in the spring, which is exactly the schedule the WBC uses. The only difference is the players aren’t coming out after their 3rd AB.
All the players want to be in the WBC, but they are guilted into turning it down due to team and fan reluctance. Get rid of the myth that teams are negatively affected by their players participating and the American fan will get behind it.
I hate the idea. Players need to be focused on the season. At least the ASG is just a 1 game exhibition nobody cares too much about so fewer injuries . Frankly I dont like the WBC at all and would not mind it just being disappeared
I would favor moving the All Star game to spring though. Players voted in based on last seasons results. Maybe the World Series winner vs a MLB all star team. Players who moved to other teams would still play for the World Series team, using same roster they won with. Maybe best 2 out of 3 over a 3 week period
Make a rule that any player on the winning team’s salary doesn’t count against his team’s luxury tax. For amateur players, that player doesn’t count against the slot.
This would be an indirect way of paying the players more. Harper is a free agent soon. He will likely get a shitload of money regardless. However, maybe his number goes from 40M AAV to 60M AAV or something crazy if the BoSox/Cubs/Yanks/Dodgers know they can pay him anything they want.
Split the first two round and the semis/finals with one in March, one in July. Host it in a non-US country every year (if the goal is to increase global eyeballs). Tokyo, Mexico City, Sydney, Santo Domingo, etc.
Expand roster size to allow for more pitchers (lower their work load).