Three Counterpoints to Trevor Story’s First Three Games

Trevor Story did something that has never happened in major-league history before: he homered in first three games of his career. People are generally pretty excited about that, and rightly so. Jeff detailed that excitement the other day, and backed it up with a couple of very good points about Story’s plate coverage and adaptability. It may very well be that we are watching the genesis of the next great Rockies shortstop. (Or, if you prefer, the second great Rockies shortstop.) But before we get carried away, I wanted to offer a few counterpoints.

First, while what Story did was unprecedented, what Arizona’s trio of starting pitchers also just did was nearly as rare. Namely, the club’s first three starting pitchers — Zack Greinke, Shelby Miller and Patrick Corbin — all allowed three home runs. For a trio of starting pitchers to allow three (or more) home runs on three consecutive days isn’t a particularly common occurrence. In fact, since 1974, this was only the ninth time it’s happened. Let’s take a look:

SPs Who Allowed 3+ HR on 3 Consec. Days, 1974-Present
Team Dates Pitcher 1 Pitcher 2 Pitcher 3
Nationals Aug. 13-15, 1999 Javier Vazquez Jeremy Powell Shayne Bennett
White Sox May 10-12, 2001 Rocky Biddle David Wells* Jon Garland
Rangers July 31-Aug. 2, 2002 Rob Bell Chan Ho Park Ismael Valdez
Royals July 29-31, 2003 Darrell May* Runelvys Hernandez Kyle Snyder
Indians Aug. 1-3, 2003 Billy Traber Jason Davis Brian Anderson
Royals July 20-22, 2004 Zack Greinke* Darrell May Jimmy Gobble
Nationals July 13-15, 2007 Jason Bergmann Matt Chico Jason Simontacchi
Diamondbacks Aug. 18-20, 2007 Micah Owings Yusmeiro Petit Doug Davis
Orioles Aug. 17-19, 2009 David Hernandez Jason Berken Chris Tillman
Diamondbacks April 4-6, 2016 Zack Greinke Shelby Miller Patrick Corbin
* = Four homers allowed

A quick couple caveats regarding this table, the data for which was graciously pulled by Jonah Pemstein. One: it accounts for consecutive days, not necessarily consecutive games, and is limited merely to starting pitchers, not relief pitchers. Also: the data goes back only to 1974. If we broadened the criteria, we’d find more instances. That’s how things work. But still: nine times. That’s not a lot. About once every three years, in other words.

Interestingly, this was the second time that Greinke has been a part of one of these unholy triumvirates. The first occurred all the way back in his rookie year, which seems like a lifetime ago. But it did happen. That’s not really central to the point here, of course, but it is interesting.

So while we can celebrate Story’s achievement of knocking homers for his first four big-league hits, we can also say that this was a rarity on both sides of the equation. After all, it wasn’t just Story who homered. In the season’s first game, Carlos Gonzalez and Nolan Arenado also homered, which is typical. DJ LeMahieu also homered twice, which is not. If you’re unfamiliar with DJ LeMahieu, he has 17 career home runs in his career, and has never tallied more than six in any one season — even though he plays half his games in Coors Field. When I see things like that it gives me pause.

Let’s move on to a second counterpoint, again, in table form:

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Javier Baez vs. Trevor Story Plate Discipline Comp, 2015
Name Team Age PA BB% K% BB/K
Trevor Story Rockies (AAA) 22 275 5.80% 24.70% 0.24
Javier Baez Cubs (AAA) 22 313 6.70% 24.30% 0.28

So, I think reasonable people can agree that Javier Baez’s star has dimmed considerably. When the Cubs signed Ben Zobrist this winter, it was a clear signal that the plan with Baez was for him to occupy a bench role. One of the reasons for this is Baez’s incredibly poor plate discipline. And yet, last season in Triple-A, Baez had better plate discipline than did Story. Baez, who is the same age as Story, walked more and struck out less. The walk rate is what’s concerning. At Double-A and lower levels, Story had similar strikeout rates, but a much better walk rate — double his Triple-A mark, in some cases. And while we’re not going to make sweeping judgments about his plate discipline after three major-league games, the zero walks and four strikeouts isn’t making me feel any better.

Finally, hot starts are a bit of a Rockies shortstop specialty. Clint Barmes, in his first taste of regular big-league action, put up a 183 wRC+ in April 2005. It started with what was probably the best moment of his career — a two-run walk-off homer off of Trevor Hoffman on Opening Day. The homer capped a big ninth-inning comeback, and made the whole Rocky Mountain region sit up and take note of this Clint Barmes fellow whom they’d never heard of before. After slumping through May, he was starting to heat up in June again, and then he got hurt. That 183 wRC+ from April 2005 and 192 wRC+ from June 2005 are still the two best months of his career, a decade later. Barmes’ career wRC+ is 71. The interesting thing here, to me, is that Barmes has recorded just 89 homers across more than 10 big-league seasons. He actually hit for power in the minors. He knocked 15 homers in Double-A, and 16 in Triple-A in the years prior to his permanent call-up.

The same is also true of Josh Rutledge. He produced a 139 and 132 wRC+, respectively, in High-A and Double-A prior to his fateful call-up to the majors. When he came up in July 2012, he ratcheted up the expectations with a 171 wRC+ in his first month in the league. It wouldn’t last, as his wRC+ dropped down to 133 in August, and then 29 in September. It was all a bit confusing at the time, especially since, when he went back down for what was then his first taste of Triple-A ball in 2013, he brutalized the Pacific Coast League to the tune of a 171 wRC+. With the space of time, we now know that he just isn’t that good of a hitter. He hasn’t gotten anywhere near that 171 wRC+ since, and his career mark is 79.

I bring these up because both of these guys hit better than Story did at Triple-A last season. They’re not directly comparable given that run environments have shifted, and the Rockies Triple-A club is now Albuquerque. And it’s but two players, at that. Nevertheless, I’m wary. Rutledge was the same age as Story is this season. His rise seemed too good to be true, and it was.

Trevor Story may be on his way to a banner rookie season, one of the few wire-to-wire rookie seasons. (There have only been 19 players to play 140 or more games in their rookie season the past five years.) Perhaps I am protesting too much, or you think these arguments flimsy. I won’t begrudge you either viewpoint. At this point, most arguments are flimsy. But we should consider both sides of a rare streak, especially when the player in question doesn’t have the most airtight track record, and when we have had our hopes raised by some of his predecessors. Does that mean Story will suffer the same fate? Not necessarily, but let’s give it a couple of months — or at least a couple of weeks — before we get too excited.





Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.

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JediHoyer
10 years ago

To be fair it was baez second trip thru triple a and it was after he had a taste of the majors, while it was storys first time above AA

redsoxu571
10 years ago
Reply to  JediHoyer

Let’s also remember that this will be Trevor Story playing half his games in Colorado.

Don’t tell me you wouldn’t have high expectations if Javier Baez were suddenly traded to Colorado and given an everyday role.

DeanAnna
10 years ago

Let’s Get Irresponsibly Excited About Trevor Story

Dick Monfort
10 years ago
Reply to  DeanAnna
MerlMember since 2018
10 years ago

You are a poor writer, creatively.

We understand that he obviously can’t continue what he’s doing, we all know that…

This is what one would refer to as a weak column. Find something better to write about. Let the kid have his shine for knocking 4 HRs for his first 4 hits. Let him. If it just so happened to be a name that every knows and all the prospect-heads were drooling over, you wouldn’t even write this counterpoint slop. Just because you nor other writers couldn’t peg him as a good/top prospect doesn’t mean you have to write these articles to prove he still is not or can’t be. Let him be a stud.

Sabermetrics HELP project. They don’t tell the whole story. How do you know he isn’t taking his game to a new level? and has learned something new from where he is at now to reach his highest talent? You dont. Great players make others great. He has 2 great players hitting right behind him.

No professional has to tell us he won’t keep it up. You’re not doing your job correctly. Find something that will amuse us.
Be creative.

BigMax
10 years ago
Reply to  Merl

You could have said “Hey, don’t harsh my buzz”

You could have said “I disagree”

Can’t people disagree anymore without attacking the person they disagree with?

Ozzie Albies
10 years ago
Reply to  BigMax

You are a poor writer, creative.

We understand that it cannot keep what works, we all know that …

We like this main column. Find something better to write about. Infant his Brilliance species 1. April successful four hours. Just let it go. If you go by the names that everyone knows and first points flying around, you won’t write counterpoint for maintaining personal hygiene. Other authors and can be used as leader promising a sea/I know I can’t write these articles prove that he didn’t do or could not. It is a Stud.

Sabermetrics help projects. They don’t tell the whole story. How do you know that you do not use your game to a whole new level. and something new, where it is now to get the best talent classmates. You do not know. Great players do that other main. There are two great players behind the visitors.

If it’s not only continued the expert. My gonads are not working properly. Find something to amuse us.

Get creative

O'KieboomerMember since 2021
10 years ago
Reply to  Ozzie Albies

Is the “My gonads are not working properly” part legit, or is that edited in? Either way it’s great.

evo34Member since 2023
10 years ago
Reply to  Ozzie Albies

Do you think people will let you know when this becomes tired?

redsoxu571
10 years ago
Reply to  Ozzie Albies

evo, I don’t think it will ever become tired. It’s basically a troll flag. I love it.

Dick Monfort
10 years ago
Reply to  Ozzie Albies

It hasn’t become tired yet.

MerlMember since 2018
10 years ago
Reply to  Merl

Meanwhile…
Story stays hot in Col.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 years ago
Reply to  Merl

You know who’s an even poorer writer? The person who thinks their totally unqualified, unargued assertions about who’s a “poor writer” and what’s a “weak column” are persuasive or interesting.

MerlMember since 2018
10 years ago

He never claimed to be a good writer, Roger.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 years ago
Reply to  Merl

Did Swydan? I take your point, comment-section jackasses can be right without being articulate sometimes, but this is not one of those times.

evo34Member since 2023
10 years ago

“The person” is singular.

“Their” is plural.

If you’re going to be a pedantic asshole about writing, learn how to write.

JediHoyer
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Their is possessive and is both singular and plural, he did use it it wrong as it should have been they’re. Doesn’t change the fact you were also wrong.

evo34Member since 2023
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Christ. Re-take 6th grade.

While there, you might learn that “wrong” is an adjective, not an adverb. So the phrase, “he did use it wrong” couldn’t be more wrong…

redsoxu571
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Jedi, “their” is not singular, if you’re a self-respecting user of the English language.

People might counter that claim by saying “language evolves”. I would then counter that by noting that yes, language evolved regionally between disparate peoples who did not have a means to communicate broadly and who used languages that were as-yet non-standardized.

Today, the English-speaking world provides enviable (relative to most of human history) education, including instruction on our now-standardized language. “Evolution” that results from laziness (using “if” instead of “whether”, fewer syllables I suppose) or ignorance (using “less” instead of “fewer”) is not evolution at all.

If after all this time English is ready for an indefinite third person singular pronoun, let’s create one to serve that purpose rather than misappropriate existing ones.

JediHoyer
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Someone shit their pants. Just used their in a singular possessive way.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Similarly, if you’re going to call someone else an asshole it helps to be more than a wannabe linguist. Gender-neutral singular “they” is, contra your attempted pedantry, a hugely popular usage in recent English, and particularly apposite in online fora which don’t provide information about the gender of our interlocutors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/08/donald-trump-may-win-this-years-word-of-the-year/

ThomServo
10 years ago
Reply to  Merl

This article:
(1) Puts Story’s success into context with 3 relevant comparables helping us appreciate the extent of his success relative to the sample size;
(2) Points out a strange run for the Diamondback SPs that played some role in this hot start;
(3) Focuses on walk rate concerns; and
(4) Makes a somewhat bold prediction- not simply that Story will cool off, but that he may very well not even be that close to an average big league quality hitter.

That’s a decent amount of relevant analysis in a brief article, and it provides empirical evidence while concluding by offering a unique opinion (i.e that Story’s hot start doesn’t even tell us that much about whether he will post a career 100 RC+).

It strikes me as anti-science prejudice for anyone to say that science can’t explain ‘the whole story,’ especially when followed by a plea to focus on narrative (maybe he learned something, etc.). Your response also seemed to encourage what I feel is a misunderstanding of the purpose of empiricism, as you say that everyone knows that Story will regress therefore the article is not news.

But empirical science doesn’t focus on dichotomous ‘he will stay exactly the way he is now’ or ‘he will regress’ assessments- instead the focus is on quantum, ‘by how much will this or that thing occur’ and ‘how precisely can we estimate this expected outcome. Consider regression models- coefficients (by how much) and p-values (how precise the estimate). This article does a solid job of addressing these primary scientific focal points, saying that Story might not post a career 100 RC+ despite his amazing first 3 games (I know its now 4 amazing games, but the article was based on 3) and then the article discusses sample size issues related to the confidence of the skepticism. Focus on narrative does none of these things, and tends to be anti-science: as lots of players learn new things or play next to good players, but observation-based math calculating the impact of such things informs us that almost always such impact is minimal.

I think your point is, less skeptical empiricism, more hype-encouraging narrative. Disney now has a sports channel that might quench this thirst.

evo34Member since 2023
10 years ago
Reply to  ThomServo

“But empirical science doesn’t focus on dichotomous ‘he will stay exactly the way he is now’ or ‘he will regress’ assessments- instead the focus is on quantum, ‘by how much will this or that thing occur’ and ‘how precisely can we estimate this expected outcome.”

The problem is that this article stops short of doing any of this. There is no magnitude or precision projected. It just says, “Story has poor plate discipline. He hit HRs off of SPs who also gave up other HRs. Other infielders have failed after hot starts in Colorado. He might not be very good.”

I happen to agree with all of these statements. But there is certainly nothing scientific about this article.

redsoxu571
10 years ago
Reply to  evo34

You’re operating under the assumption that scientific conclusions are only relevant if presented quantitatively.

You don’t need a bevy of recorded numbers to tell you that it would be a bad idea to jump off a cliff. A qualitative description of any experiment aimed at testing that notion and its results would do just fine.

david k
10 years ago

The list of the pitchers that gave up 3+ HRs in consecutive days had at most one good pitcher out of the three. The Dbacks 3 that did it should be much better, on paper at least, than any of the triplets on the list, probably by a significant margin. Hopefully for the Dbacks, it’s just random chance of these bad outings coming in a row, but then again, Delarosa put up pretty crappy numbers in the game after this. Not a great beginning for that rotation.

rustyspatula
10 years ago

Just a reminder to everyone that Clint Barmes’s rookie season was derailed by an injury incurred off the field — Todd Helton gave him a hindquarter of deer he had shot, and Barmes slipped carrying it up the steps to his home and broke his collarbone.

danMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Paul Swydan

I was under the impression that he told the Rockies that he got hurt carrying groceries, so as not to embarrass Todd Helton; but the truth was the animal story. No?

BipMember since 2016
10 years ago

The walk rate is what’s concerning. At Double-A and lower levels, Story had similar strikeout rates, but a much better walk rate — double his Triple-A mark, in some cases.

This relates to one of the main things I have taken away from Chris Mitchell’s work with KATOH that was counter-intuitive to me: that minor league walk rate for hitters basically means nothing, particularly below AAA. So, knowing that, it mean’s Story’s low-minors walk rates aren’t even significant.

JediHoyer
10 years ago
Reply to  Bip

If a minor leaguers walk rate is the reason for his solid batting line then yes, but walk rates with other tools are significant.

wash_hts_gold
10 years ago

Man can you imagine how excited people would get about Javier Baez if he were a Rockie?

Personally I see a poor man’s Kris Bryant here, at SS.

eliasll
10 years ago

He just went yard. He did something during the offseason. I was thinking sell high, now I think he’s good for .280 30HR

JediHoyer
10 years ago
Reply to  eliasll

30 hr maybe, .280 is a dream even in col.

Cybo
10 years ago
Reply to  JediHoyer

Who knows with this guy. He’s only had a year and change of pro ball. He wouldn’t be the first star to come out of nowhere. Goldy, Bats, Brantley, Davis, Gomez, Cruz, JD Martinez all come quickly to mind as elite players not many seen coming.

Also Story’s avg should go up once his babip normalizes!

Maybe he’s another Arenado at SS. At least with the bat.

JediHoyer
10 years ago
Reply to  Cybo

He isn’t coming out of nowhere. Neither did any of those guys. They were all highly rated at one point or were successful in the minors, bautista maybe the one exception. Story hits too many flies and doesn’t make enough contact for a high average. Doesn’t mean he can’t be productive, but it’s likely he’s a .250 hitter with pop.

Àngel Lluís Carrillo Pujol
10 years ago

Another one
In Spanish we say: Acojonante!!!!!!!
http://mlb.mlb.com/r/video?content_id=578806683

jmsdean477
10 years ago

Trevor go boom boom.

MetsoxMember since 2016
10 years ago

This is getting comical

jmsdean477
10 years ago

4Gms 19PA 6HR!!!!

johnnyairport
10 years ago

cool Story bro

fredsbankMember since 2020
10 years ago

we get it man, you don’t like the Rockies

Joe
10 years ago

Come on now Paul…you want me to take your “counterpoints” seriously…don’t lead off with some attenuated stat about only starting pitchers in consecutive days giving up multiple home runs…”But still: nine times. That’s not a lot. About once every three years, in other words.”

Even with all the caveats you concocted, that is still only once in three years…what Trevor Story has done HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, EVER. This is a truly historic performance and everyone needs to quit throwing cold water on it.

Will Story continue to hit HRs at this rate (he’s now on pace for 189!)? No. Will Story continue to be the best hitting SS in all of baseball? No. But that is no reason not to celebrate this completely historic and unique performance (even though it may be a small sample size of his overall career).

Baseball Anagrams
10 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Note to “salienac”: this is how you sharply disagree and criticize the author without making it a personal attack.

I gave this +1 simply because of that.

Joe
10 years ago

Although you may not care what anyone says 😉 … I do appreciate the positive vote on my criticism.

Alan Seltzer
10 years ago

“Finally, hot starts are a bit of a Rockies shortstop specialty.” You can’t be serious, right?

You’re trying to make the argument that the combination of 1) it being early in the season, 2) Story playing the position of shortstop, and 3) his team being the Rockies holds some bearing over his home run streak. I begin to buy part 3 only because of the Coors Field effect, but at the time of this article Story had played just three games, all of which were NOT at Coors Field!

I get the motivation here of grasping for any explanation for Trevor Story and the extreme anomaly his early-season HR-slugging performance has been. But this piece and especially the “third counterpoint” is not the kind of quality statistical analysis I expect from Fangraphs.

Tommy
10 years ago

There are no comps for what Story has done the past week, so it’s grasping to expect this will continue.

* 68 FB% and 54 HR/FB, which is otherworldly. Even monster sluggers top out at 50 FB% and around 30% HR/FB. And he’s not on that level from what I can see.

* 47% pull, so he’ll struggle vs. shifted defenses.

Enjoy the early ride. If you’re wise, you’ll sell high.

Aside from the Reyes situation, there’s the impending implosion of his BA. Dude hacks so much he needs a high BABIP to hit over .245-.250. If he ain’t walking, he could have an actual OBP lower than .260 when all is said and done. The weird low BABIP and .333 average as of today is just small sample size. They omit HR from “balls in play” when calculating that stat, so it’s wonky with only <30 PA taken into account.

If I owned this guy anywhere, I'd be selling to the highest bidder before the shine wears off and he hits a major slump. That's all it will take to surrender the SS gig back to Reyes at some point. Too risky for my tastes.

Joe
10 years ago
Reply to  Tommy

I agree that it won’t continue…and I agree that I would be selling high in any fantasy league I am in right now.

However, Story will not surrender the SS gig to Reyes at any point, ever. Ownership here in Denver is VERY pro high-character guys (I mean it goes beyond just being a leader in the clubhouse kind of thing…there are all kinds of stories about them favoring religious players). I believe the Monforts will go out of their way to keep Reyes from ever stepping on the field as a Rockie ever again. Even if it means eating the entire $22 mil this year and the $4 mil buyout next. This goes beyond the fangraphs/statistical analysis of the players’ skills but it is absolutely a real aspect of the situation.