Time to Learn Who Chad Green Is

The Yankees bullpen is short on neither talent nor name value. Most baseball fans are aware of Aroldis Chapman, even if they’re not aware that he’s been in a funk. Likewise, many baseball fans are aware of Dellin Betances, and they’ve generally heard of David Robertson, who this year has re-emerged as terrific. To make the unit all the more deep, the Yankees acquired Tommy Kahnle, one of the year’s big bullpen breakout stories. Kahnle has struck out 38% of his opponents, ranking him seventh in baseball among regular or semi-regular relievers.

Kahnle, in the breakout sense, is a surprise. He finally has the results to go with the powerful stuff. And yet Kahnle may play second fiddle in here, because of another development. The highest strikeout rate for any reliever belongs to Craig Kimbrel. Well, sure. In second place, we find Kenley Jansen. Yes, of course. The name in third place reads “Chad Green.” And he’s up around 60 innings, so this isn’t just a hot week or month. Green has piled up the strikeouts, and as a consequence, he ranks seventh among all relievers in WAR. Chad Green made his season debut on May 9.

Green appeared in 12 major-league games last season, and he was fine. For eight of the 12 games, he was a starter, and if you look at this season, he’s been the starter in just one of 32 games. Right there, you might begin to understand what’s allowed Green to take off. He wouldn’t be the first mediocre starter to find a welcome home in the bullpen. Absolutely, the shift has helped, and David Laurila recently caught up with Green in the clubhouse. Green mentioned that he’s been able to simplify his repertoire by narrowing down.

Yet this isn’t only about stuff playing up in short outings. For one thing, Green is tied for third in baseball in number of relief appearances lasting more than one inning. He’s been more of a multi-inning weapon, which places greater demands upon the arm. And Green, simply, is better. He has better command of his stuff, and he’s turned into something rather overpowering.

As I’ve mentioned in the past, one of my preferred measures of dominance is contact rate within the strike zone. Anyone can get a hitter to miss a slider low off the plate; it takes something more to get a whiff in the hitting area. In the following plot, you’ll see in-zone contact rate for this season, as well as general zone rate. Green is the point highlighted in yellow.

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Two things going on here: Green has missed plenty of bats in the zone, and Green has also thrown plenty of pitches in the zone. The latter would follow from the former, I suppose — no need to try to get hitters to expand when you can make them miss over the plate. This is a fairly ideal combination of traits, and if that in-zone contact rate strikes you as being extremely low, well, it is! Here are the lowest rates over the past decade.

Lowest In-Zone Contact%, 2008 – 2017
Pitcher Year Z-Contact%
Aroldis Chapman 2014 63.2%
Aroldis Chapman 2015 67.1%
Kenley Jansen 2011 67.3%
Aroldis Chapman 2012 67.4%
Craig Kimbrel 2017 69.3%
Craig Kimbrel 2012 70.3%
Ernesto Frieri 2012 70.6%
Kenley Jansen 2017 71.7%
Chad Green 2017 71.8%
Seung Hwan Oh 2016 71.9%
Minimum 50 innings thrown.

There’s Green, in ninth, hanging out with some elites. Hanging out also with Ernesto Frieri, but even he had his seasons. How does a pitcher miss so many bats with would-be strikes? The answer almost always involves some kind of overwhelming or deceptive fastball, and, sure enough, Green’s fastball has become something extraordinary. I looked at every pitcher-season with at least 500 four-seam fastballs thrown since 2008. Here are the lowest contact rates on said fastballs.

Unhittable Four-Seamers, 2008 – 2017
Pitcher Year Fastballs Contact%
Aroldis Chapman 2014 639 58.1%
Aroldis Chapman 2015 875 59.7%
Chad Green 2017 632 59.8%
Craig Kimbrel 2017 662 60.0%
Vinnie Pestano 2011 652 60.9%
Craig Kimbrel 2012 619 61.7%
Brad Boxberger 2014 681 62.0%
Aroldis Chapman 2012 1058 62.4%
Takashi Saito 2010 550 62.9%
Aroldis Chapman 2013 937 64.1%
SOURCE: Brooks Baseball
Minimum 500 four-seam fastballs thrown.

Chad Green, behind only Aroldis Chapman. With a sitting velocity around 96, Green isn’t up there throwing slop or anything, but he doesn’t quite have Chapman velocity. Yet the results are the results, and, as Green said to Laurila, part of this breakout is about relying on the four-seamer more often. That’s easy enough to observe through Green’s admittedly limited major-league history.

As Green has thrown more four-seamers, at the expense of everything else, he’s collected more and more strikeouts, as opponents haven’t yet come up with any kind of consistent solution.

As a reliever, Green has added a little bit of zip. He’s also been able to focus on his four-seamer and breaking ball, moving away from sinkers, cutters, and changeups. If you talk to Green, as Laurila did, he’ll talk about the importance of that breaking ball, to give the hitter some kind of other look. Without question, Green’s better this way than he would be if he just threw four-seam fastballs 100% of the time. But the real move here, to me, seems to be improved fastball command. Here come some Baseball Savant heat maps. You see 2016 and 2017 four-seam fastballs, against righties and against lefties.

Against righties, Green looks somewhat similar. He’s right-handed, himself, and he’s located a little better up and to the glove-side. But then look at Green below, against lefties. A season ago, his four-seam fastball was a pitch he tried to keep over or around the inner half. This year, he’s completely changed sides, attacking arm-side. To review, then: Against righties, Green has spotted his fastball on the glove-side edge, and then against lefties, he’s stayed around the arm-side edge. The command improvement is real, and to both sides. The result is that Green gets plenty of swings like this.

There’s not really anything else that Green needs, not as long as he’s a reliever. He has something of a high-spin rising four-seam fastball, and he’s learned how to keep it elevated. He’s now able to command the pitch to both sides, and he’s certainly not hurting for any speed. There’s a breaking ball in there to keep hitters honest, and Green is consistently good about keeping it down, where it ought to be. The breaking ball will be key, because without it, Green could conceivably go the way of Frieri before him, where home runs spiral out of control. Green will need more than *just* the fastball, most of the time. But the fastball is also the primary tool, and it’s a dominant one. With an overpowering fastball and an adequate second pitch, Chad Green has become one of the better relief weapons around. The Yankees, as a consequence, have an embarrassment of bullpen riches, and for that reason more than any other, they could be a nightmare of an October opponent.





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BacaMalaka
8 years ago

Mental makeup is just as important. Kimbrel has a majority of his innings in high leverage situations, 30+. Green? 2.1. Throw him to the wolves and he is not going to get the same results.

Theodore HooperMember since 2021
8 years ago
Reply to  BacaMalaka

That is the benefit of being in the Yankees’ bullpen. Everyone makes everyone better. He doesn’t have to be a high leverage guy to add value.

Rex Manning DayMember since 2022
8 years ago
Reply to  BacaMalaka

BREAKING: Second-year converted starter pitches in lower-leverage situations than the best closer in the American League.

ARodTheGOAT
8 years ago

I guess we found Stephen A Smith’s secret profile with those hot takes he’s throwing out there!

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
8 years ago

And that’s before mentioning that he’s on the same team as the top 2 fWAR relievers in baseball from 2014-2016!

…and the 12th best for good measure.

Free Clay Zavada
8 years ago
Reply to  BacaMalaka

I get that the way this was put across led to the amount of dislikes, but I do think it’s an important piece of data when trying to contextualize Green’s results.

Bryan
8 years ago

It’s also not very true. Especially recently. Green has been used as the bridge from the middle innings to Robertson/Betances. So in the 5th/6th/7th innings of a game, such as the one mentioned above, he is the guy brought in. Of his 32 games he has pitched in 2017, 17 have been games where he has entered with the Yankees behind. And 13 where they have been ahead. He has given up 3 of the 23 inherited runners to score. He has done an amazing job to both bridge the gap between the starters and the closers and also ensuring games where the starters don’t do well stay within reach for the bats. Dude has been a complete beast.

Free Clay Zavada
8 years ago
Reply to  Bryan

Sure, but his leverage index overall still isn’t very high, which was the point. I don’t see how what you’ve said invalidates that.

KCbbq
8 years ago
Reply to  Bryan

Even though he’s not used in high leverage situations most of the time it bears repeating, he typically is used for 2 or more innings vs one inning for most closers. I wonder how many non-elite closers can maintain what Green does for 2+ innings.

DeadheadbrewerMember since 2016
8 years ago

Looks like in his second-to-last outing, he struck out seven of the nine hitters he faced, then struck out four of seven in his latest appearance. Not too shabby . . .

Deacon DrakeMember since 2017
8 years ago

Interesting, but Clay Hensley had a month like this once when the Fish rolled him into the bullpen. He remained Clay Hensley.

Based on the pedigree, I see that being more the case than Green turning into a center piece. Gotta like guys who throw chest high fastballs with authority, though, and if he stays intact for another month, he will certainly improve the Yankees chances of winning in October.

ARodTheGOAT
8 years ago
Reply to  Deacon Drake

He’s always shown the ability to have swing and miss stuff though. Even last year, he had games like the one start he made against Toronto, striking out 11 over 6 innings

caponehollywood
8 years ago

I was actually just talking about Green to my brother yesterday, and I was thinking that the Yankees really ought to use him in more high leverage situations. Betances’ walk rate is an abhorrent 6.37/9, that’s unacceptable for any reliever, let alone a closer. I don’t care how many bats he misses, Green’s walk rate is 1/3 of Betances and his strikeout stuff is arguably just as good (in fact this post would do a lot to support that argument). I don’t even need to touch Chapman here.

In the later innings, those walks are oftentimes the balance of the game. I mean, look at last night – Betances doesn’t give up that walk and at least the Yanks have a chance to come back after the Machado homer.

If I’m Girardi, I’m using Warren as my 6th-7th inning guy, Green as my 7th-8th inning guy, and Robertson as my closer. You can talk all you want about how effective Betances has been in the past (it would be a tough argument, there’s a lot of bad sandwiched in that good), but at the end of the day the results are what matters. The Yankees have blown the most saves in the American league and have the worst record in one run games in the AL – that falls directly on the relief corps and there’s simply no excuse with the talent in the bullpen. Until Betances gets the walk rate down, I don’t think he will have consistent success in high leverage situations. Ditto any other reliever in baseball, ever.

JimMember since 2016
8 years ago

The Yanks should have paid Betances more in arbitration. So they get what they deserve.

caponehollywood
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Apparently, he got what he deserved. I always want to believe in talent, but control is part of talent – and Betances does not have that. If your closer is going out there, and 40% of the time he has literally no clue where the ball is going – it doesn’t matter that he’s lights out the other 60% of the time..

A closer’s ability to close is hinged way more on his ability to limit walks than strike outs, look at Mo (never had a walk rate over 3.0 through his entire career, and that year with the 3.0 was one of his worst) owner of a career 8.2 K/9, greatest closer in baseball history.

C BeisbolMember since 2026
8 years ago

“Apparently, he got what he deserved…If your closer is going out there, and 40% of the time he has literally no clue where the ball is going – it doesn’t matter that he’s lights out the other 60% of the time”

Fairly confident that every team in baseball, if they had known exactly what Betances’ performance this year was going to be, would have offered him more than what the Yankees did if they’d had the opportunity.

caponehollywood
8 years ago
Reply to  C Beisbol

I’m not so sure of that – he has the 42nd best ERA among qualified relievers and is dead last in walk rate by a fair margin.

Aaron Judge's Gavel
8 years ago

As a Yankee fan who’s seen him pitch over the last couple years, Green has certainly been a pleasant surprise. Coming into the year, he was fighting for 1 of those last 2 rotation spots with Cessa, Montgomery, and Severino. But Green never had that 3rd pitch to get lefties out or turn a lineup over, so he seemed destined for middle relief.

He did add some velo out of the pen, but the command has taken a huge step forward as both Jeff and David pointed out. He always had a nice slide piece, but working up more with his good riding fastball seems to really be the key along with just locating it in good spots more consistently. And even if he does make a middle-middle mistake, he has enough on it and enough ‘rise’ that hitters seem to consistently swing underneath it, leading to all those in-zone swing and misses. Hitters just look blown away by him at 97 and don’t seem to have a problem timing up Chapman’s straight 101+.

Green has certainly earned his way into more high leverage work, and as another commenter pointed out, 2 appearances ago he struck out 7 of the 9 hitters he faced, and then in his latest appearance struck out 4 of 7. That appearance last week actually set a record, as he was the first pitcher to ever record 7 K’s that faced less than 9 hitters. Pretty neat! Ho-hum, the Yanx churn out what looks to be another good reliever.

Tanned Tom
8 years ago

If I’m Cashman the bull pen situation has changed, and I’m exploring trading Chapman or Betances in the off season. The Chapman contract was a mistake, and as another poster mentioned, Betances has always had control issues. Maybe time to sell high on one and take advantage of the rep of the other and move on. I’d be interested in reading some thoughts on this.

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Tanned Tom

I think Green ought to be looked at as a starter again next year. He was actually good last year in the majors except for an unsustainably high 25% HR/FB rate. The command was there, the Ks were there. It was mostly bad luck.

I’d see if he can start next year and replace either Pineda or Sabathia.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Or people get a better read on his fastball when they see it multiple times, and make hard contact.

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago

It didn’t happen that way in the high minors, so I don’t know why we’d ignore all that data, plus this year’s, and assume 40 innings in the majors last year is his true HR rate, which would easily be the worst in the league by far.

I mean, worst case, he’s Robbie Ray before this year.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

A) The worst case scenario is much closer to “Joe Kelly, Starting Pitcher,” or “Andrew Miller, Starting Pitcher” than pre-2017 Ray.

B) Pre-2017 Ray was worth 2.1 RA9-WAR in 330 innings. Green’s been worth 2.2 WAR in 59 innings this season.

Green’s added 15% to his K-rate and 4% to his IFFB rate with the switch to the pen.

I feel a necessary addendum is that I, personally will take a 2-win reliever over a 3-win starter, every single time.

There’s a reason 2 years of Andrew Miller cost a hell of a lot more than 2 years of Sonny Gray.

Michael Herring
8 years ago

Are these heat maps catcher facing pitcher or pitcher facing catcher? It says he has located to arm-side against lefties, which would indicate the catcher’s point of view. It also says he has located inside to righties, which would indicate the pitcher’s point of view.