As in “overall position player power rankings?” I think that would be a good idea. Someone else please go through the enormous effort so I can read that.
I did that, though haven’t posted it online. Here are the total rankings:
1. Texas
2. NYY
(gap)
3. Boston
(big gap)
4. Philly
5. Tampa Bay
6. St. Louis
7. LAA
(gap)
8. Detroit
(gap)
9. Miami
10. Arizona
(gap)
11. Cincy
12. San Fran
13. Milwaukee
14. Atlanta
15. Cleveland
16. Minnesota
17. Toronto
18. ChiSox
19. Washington
(gap)
20. KC
21. Colorado
22. ChiCubs
(gap)
23. LAD
24. Baltimore
25. Mets
(big gap)
26. Pittsburgh
27. San Diego
28. Seattle
29. Oakland
(gap)
30. Houston
If you do this, you need to adjust DH because it is AL-only and starting pitcher because it is much more important than individual offensive positions.
How about a re-sort of the positional power rankings by team in addition to by position? It’d allow one to quickly see teams’ strengths and weaknesses and the like.
You misspelled “League” in the “Minor League Rankings” heading, but it’s nice to have all of this information in one place. I’m a sucker for rankings, and I appreciate how Fangraphs expanded their annual pre-season rankings this year to include more prospects and individual position power rankings.
Tom
14 years ago
Nice.
ryanp
14 years ago
this is a super sweet collection of info on one page
tyvm
Nivra
14 years ago
Posting here, because I don’t know what thread this belongs in.
I would love to see someone address the predicted gap between NL and AL starting staffs.
According to these predictions, 2012 AL starters will accrue 198 WAR for an average of 14.1 WAR/team. 2012 NL starters will accrue 179.5 WAR for an average of 11.2 WAR/team.
Does the AL really have an average starting staff 3 wins greater than the NL? I don’t see it. In 2011, out of the top 30 pitchers in WAR, 15 of them were in the NL.
I think something went wrong in the ZiPs to WAR conversion for pitchers due to league.
So NL position players accrue 1.2 more WAR/team while AL pitchers accrue 3 more WAR/team.
Total AL advantage: 1.8 WAR/team.
Actual AL record: 1139-1129. Avg: 81.36-80.64
Actual NL record: 1290-1300. Avg: 80.62-81.25 (slightly lower b/c Dogs/Nats played only 161 games)
Actual AL advantage: +0.73 wins (+0.67 if you credit the Dogs/Nats game)
What gives? Is that just random luck or is there an error with how fWAR is calculated by league?
The positional power rankings is missing catcher
also it would be pretty cool to average out all the positions and rank them from high to low, im just too lazy to do that
As in “overall position player power rankings?” I think that would be a good idea. Someone else please go through the enormous effort so I can read that.
I did that here last weeK:
http://mobile.thegoodphight.com/2012/3/7/2851686/positional-power-rankings
I did that, though haven’t posted it online. Here are the total rankings:
1. Texas
2. NYY
(gap)
3. Boston
(big gap)
4. Philly
5. Tampa Bay
6. St. Louis
7. LAA
(gap)
8. Detroit
(gap)
9. Miami
10. Arizona
(gap)
11. Cincy
12. San Fran
13. Milwaukee
14. Atlanta
15. Cleveland
16. Minnesota
17. Toronto
18. ChiSox
19. Washington
(gap)
20. KC
21. Colorado
22. ChiCubs
(gap)
23. LAD
24. Baltimore
25. Mets
(big gap)
26. Pittsburgh
27. San Diego
28. Seattle
29. Oakland
(gap)
30. Houston
If you do this, you need to adjust DH because it is AL-only and starting pitcher because it is much more important than individual offensive positions.
Actually, what it’s really missing is relievers. But hopefully that will be here on Monday.
How about a re-sort of the positional power rankings by team in addition to by position? It’d allow one to quickly see teams’ strengths and weaknesses and the like.
Here’s AL East. Ran out of time to do the others:
Blue Jays
C – 21
1B – 20
2B – 16
SS – 3
3B – 8
CF – 28
RF – 1
LF – 27
DH – 6
SP – 19
Orioles
C – 8
1B – 23
2B – 28
SS – 5
3B – 24
CF – 16
RF – 16
LF – 24
DH – 14
SP – 25
Rays
C – 27
1B – 13
2B – 3
SS – 25
3B – 1
CF – 5
RF – 12
LF – 9
DH – 7
SP – 3
Red Sox
C – 18
1B – 3
2B – 1
SS – 16
3B – 6
CF – 1
RF – 17
LF – 8
DH – 1
SP – 12
Yankees
C – 16
1B – 4
2B – 4
SS – 13
3B – 10
CF – 2
RF – 9
LF – 3
DH – 8
SP – 7
that’s great; thanks!
You misspelled “League” in the “Minor League Rankings” heading, but it’s nice to have all of this information in one place. I’m a sucker for rankings, and I appreciate how Fangraphs expanded their annual pre-season rankings this year to include more prospects and individual position power rankings.
Nice.
this is a super sweet collection of info on one page
tyvm
Posting here, because I don’t know what thread this belongs in.
I would love to see someone address the predicted gap between NL and AL starting staffs.
According to these predictions, 2012 AL starters will accrue 198 WAR for an average of 14.1 WAR/team. 2012 NL starters will accrue 179.5 WAR for an average of 11.2 WAR/team.
Does the AL really have an average starting staff 3 wins greater than the NL? I don’t see it. In 2011, out of the top 30 pitchers in WAR, 15 of them were in the NL.
I think something went wrong in the ZiPs to WAR conversion for pitchers due to league.
Whoah… the WAR numbers line up with 2011.
2011 NL pitching WAR: 229.7. Avg: 14.3
2011 AL pitching WAR: 242.7. Avg: 17.3
The above numbers w/relievers:
2012 NL predicted pitching WAR:230. Avg: 14.4
2012 AL predicted pitching WAR:243. Avg: 17.4
And yet 16 of the top 30 pitchers in 2011 were NL. That means the aces are evenly distributed. It’s just that the AL has much better #3-5 pitchers.
I had to do the same for position players:
2011 NL batting: 378.2 WAR: 23.6 Avg
2011 AL batting: 313.4 WAR: 22.4 Avg
So NL position players accrue 1.2 more WAR/team while AL pitchers accrue 3 more WAR/team.
Total AL advantage: 1.8 WAR/team.
Actual AL record: 1139-1129. Avg: 81.36-80.64
Actual NL record: 1290-1300. Avg: 80.62-81.25 (slightly lower b/c Dogs/Nats played only 161 games)
Actual AL advantage: +0.73 wins (+0.67 if you credit the Dogs/Nats game)
What gives? Is that just random luck or is there an error with how fWAR is calculated by league?