Top 30 Prospects: Cleveland Indians
Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Cleveland Indians. Scouting reports are compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as from our own (both Eric Longenhagen’s and Kiley McDaniel’s) observations. For more information on the 20-80 scouting scale by which all of our prospect content is governed you can click here. For further explanation of the merits and drawbacks of Future Value, read this.
All of the numbered prospects here also appear on The Board, a new feature at the site that offers sortable scouting information for every organization. That can be found here.
| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Nolan Jones | 20.9 | A+ | 3B | 2021 | 50 |
| 2 | Triston McKenzie | 21.7 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 50 |
| 3 | Yu Chang | 23.6 | AAA | SS | 2019 | 50 |
| 4 | Brayan Rocchio | 18.2 | R | SS | 2022 | 50 |
| 5 | George Valera | 18.4 | R | LF | 2021 | 50 |
| 6 | Bo Naylor | 19.1 | A | C | 2022 | 45+ |
| 7 | Lenny Torres | 18.5 | R | RHP | 2023 | 45 |
| 8 | Luis Oviedo | 19.9 | A | RHP | 2022 | 45 |
| 9 | Tyler Freeman | 19.9 | A | SS | 2022 | 45 |
| 10 | Sam Hentges | 22.7 | AA | LHP | 2021 | 45 |
| 11 | Carlos Vargas | 19.5 | R | RHP | 2023 | 45 |
| 12 | Oscar Mercado | 24.3 | AAA | CF | 2019 | 45 |
| 13 | Junior Sanquintin | 17.2 | R | SS | 2023 | 40+ |
| 14 | Gabriel Rodriguez | 17.1 | R | SS | 2023 | 40+ |
| 15 | Ethan Hankins | 18.9 | R | RHP | 2023 | 40+ |
| 16 | Aaron Bracho | 18.0 | R | SS | 2023 | 40 |
| 17 | Will Benson | 20.8 | A | RF | 2022 | 40 |
| 18 | Richard Palacios | 21.9 | A | 2B | 2021 | 40 |
| 19 | Jean Carlos Mejia | 22.6 | A+ | RHP | 2019 | 40 |
| 20 | Bobby Bradley | 22.9 | AAA | 1B | 2019 | 40 |
| 21 | Daniel Johnson | 23.7 | AA | CF | 2020 | 40 |
| 22 | Aaron Civale | 23.8 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 23 | Nick Sandlin | 22.2 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 24 | Ernie Clement | 23.0 | AA | SS | 2020 | 40 |
| 25 | Eli Morgan | 22.9 | A+ | RHP | 2021 | 40 |
| 26 | Alexfri Planez | 17.6 | R | RF | 2024 | 35+ |
| 27 | Quentin Holmes | 19.8 | A | CF | 2023 | 35+ |
| 28 | Jonathan Lopez | 19.7 | R | 3B | 2023 | 35+ |
| 29 | Jose Tena | 18.0 | R | SS | 2024 | 35+ |
| 30 | Johnathan Rodriguez | 19.4 | R | CF | 2023 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
Some More Really Young Guys
Raynel Delgado, SS
Marcos Gonzalez, SS
Korey Holland, OF
Delgado just turned 19. He’s a patient, switch-hitting infielder with some low-ball ability from the left side, though his swing can get long. Marcos Gonzalez will be 19 all year and was assigned to full-season ball. He’s a polished defender with a small but well-proportioned frame, and average bat speed, but limited bat control. Holland will also be 19 all year. He’s a plus runner with some feel to hit but came to pro ball with a poor swing foundation, so he’s a bit of a project.
Catching
Eric Haase, C
Sicnarf Loopstok, C
Logan Ice, C
Haase has power, he strikes out, and he’s not a great defender. It’s an Evan Gattis-ish profile. Eli Ben-Porat identified Loopstok as an elite receiver, something corroborated to me by an office source. He’s also performed on paper the last two years. He might factor into the 40-man catching picture soon. Ice’s numbers were bad last year but he’s still a fine defender and hits the ball in the air a ton.
Power Relief Arms
Juan Mota, RHP
James Karinchak, RHP
Mota’s fastball doesn’t have great angle, but it’s hard and moves. His slider is just average but when he locates it, it gets swings and misses. Karinchek throws in the mid-90s and has a unique, over-the-top delivery.
Upper-Level Outfielders
Oscar Gonzalez, OF
Andrew Calica, OF
Alex Call, OF
Mitch Longo, OF
Gonzalez, 21, is an old school, gloveless free-swinger who takes big hacks at everything. Calica had a great sophomore year at UCSB, then fell off as a junior. He’s fast and makes contact, and could be a fourth outfielder. Call has more power, but it’s doubles thump, and he doesn’t run quite as well as Calica. Longo seemed to be a 2018 swing changer and does a little of both.
Changeup Artists
Chih-Wei Hu, RHP
Raymond Burgos, LHP
Zach Plesac, RHP
Eli Lingos, LHP
Ben Krauth, LHP
Hu has been developed as a kitchen sink starter and is probably rotation depth for now, but ultimately, he’ll likely stick in someone’s bullpen with a more limited repertoire. Burgos has a low three-quarters slot, and sits 91-94, with the cambio. Plesac is coming off of Tommy John. He has the hardest fastball among the non-Hus in this category, but also has the worst command. Krauth throws harder than Lingos, but Lingos is a few years younger and doesn’t need to be on the 40-man for a while.
Can Spin It
Jerson Ramirez, RHP
Kyle Nelson, LHP
Kirk McCarty, LHP
Ramirez is only 20 but throws in the low-90s and averaged 2700 rpm on his curveball last year. Nelson can really pitch and carved up Low-A in 2018. He sits 88-91 but beats hitters with it anyway, and his good slider has bat-missing vertical action. McCarty’s release point clearly makes lefties uncomfortable and he has a good two-plane breaker.
System Overview
Cleveland seems to be one of the game’s more rational actors. Well aware of their competitive window, the team moved several young players in exchange for players who, while perhaps possessing less upside, are more likely to help them soon. Tahnaj Thomas for Jordan Luplow. Jhon Torres for Oscar Mercado. Gionti Turner for Chih-Wei Hu. Ignacio Feliz for Walker Lockett. These are moves designed to create depth behind the talented and competitive big league roster as other teams need to shed 40-man weight. Nash Equilibrium and all that. It’s team building on a budget, a front office making do with what ownership seems willing to spend.
We’ve talked about this here before, but Cleveland executes their draft strategy so well that it’s easy to see what it is. They almost always end up with some of the youngest high school players in the draft, and they often seem to end up with players who had strong sophomore college seasons, but down junior years, or high school players who were great during the previous summer but fell during their senior spring. It suggests they more evenly weigh multiple years of performance, perhaps consciously avoiding recency bias in places where other teams and individuals see progress.
Yu Chang video link is dead 🙁
This is a much deeper system than it looks; Loopstock and Haase have some potential, and nearly all of the 40s look like guys with upside (like Benson) or high-probability low-end MLB players (like Civale). It’s worth noting that Cleveland’s model, whatever it is, looks a lot like KATOH. The young international guys all have star potential, and Hankins is a beast waiting be unlocked. What the system lacks is high-probability high-impact talent, guys like Royce Lewis or Nick Senzel, but it’s heartening that they have a ton of super-young guys who could turn into that sort of player (even if most of them won’t).
Quentin Holmes went to Monsignor McClancy HS, which is in Queens, not upstate NY
I guess it’s now officially time to give up on Brady Aiken. Indians spent all last year rebuilding him. So what does he do in his first outing this year? Walks 4 of the 5 batters he faced. Same as it ever was….
He got a strikeout though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMj8y1yP02s
Doesn’t matter how good they will get if no one shows up to their games
System looks deep, but uninspiring. It makes me wonder if that Kluber/Bauer trade maybe should have happened…?
But naw, this is still a good, and very smart, club. If they end up moving any stars, it’ll be at a time that makes more sense to them, I am sure.
What is a smart club? I don’t think we really are in much of a position to evaluate that.
Today they’re happy it didn’t: Clevinger is out for two-three months..
Thank you for this!! Great writeup. Looks like there is a lot of intriguing talent in the system, and while there are no obvious “WOW” stars to me, they seem to consistently get the type of player that can surprise you and turn into a Jose Ramirez or Shane Bieber. Lots of quality “show me something, kid” talent. Love the work you put into these reports.
I’m going to subscribe now.
Expected some more names on the list, since it was at 37 on the late mid season update with the minors season basically over. More like over/under 40. I get the impression that the lists got shorter over time with more severe cuts lately and this wouldn’t be the first time the Indians system gets underrated.
Some nitpicking:
– Raynel Delgado was a 35+ out of the draft and had a pretty good AZL debut, so not sure what caused the bump down?
– Mercado and Oviedo were 45+ with arrows up, but got a 45 now. Seems odd.
– If you have Planez this high, RHP Roberto Hernandez should at least get a shout out from the DSL crowd.
– Plesac’s TJ was 3 years ago and for a guy with “bad command”, he barely walks anyone. This blurb seems outdated.
Consistency goofs:
– when asked about an AZL sleeper, Eric mentioned Wilbis Santiago. Biggest sleeper in a league, but not in his own system?
– Alex Call was a 40 with an arrow up at midseason for the White Sox and now finds himself at the bottom of the others pile after the trade.
– same with Daniel Johnson, 45 and arrow up for Nats, but down to 40 now….this seems like an odd trend:
– every Indians prospect traded this offseason got “better” (T.Thomas, J.Torres, probably Feliz too), whereas everyone acquired got “worse” (Hu, Call, D.Johnson….Monasterio not even getting mentioned anymore, after being a 40 at midseason for two other systems and despite being one of the youngest AA starters right now). Sorry, but this seems biased.
Way more than nitpicking:
Not even mentioning Steven Kwan will haunt your scouting careers for years 😉 Again a weird decision or plain oversight since he was a 35 on draft day and killed the ball after the draft and now got assigned to A+ (where he keeps hitting btw, he’s 21yo this entire season). I mean, you guys found a way to mention Eli Lingos and Ben Krauth, but not Kwan and Monasterio? That’s tough, man (men?).
I hate to go there again, but this list seems a bit lazy…and I was right the first time (Shane Bieber and Thomas Pannone say hello).
End of rant, so downvote now.
So is the crux of your complaints, essentially, that you don’t understand how prospects FV can go down if they get older without improving over the course of 6-8 months?
I get that teenager’s FV tends to go up while improving and proving themselves, that’s not my beef here. The upgrades on T.Thomas and John Torres are logical.
But the downgrades on the guys I mentioned don’t make much sense to me.
D.Johnson was 22 in AA last year, is 23 now and had a great ST with the big league team. That’s not old for a prospect close to ML.
Monasterio is 21 in AA today, one of the youngest prospects at the level and got highlighted several times here by Eric. Where does it explain going from 40 to no mention without playing much?
Oviedo is a teenager, so the age argument isn’t explaining anything here either.
Same with Delgado. What changed from draft to today to warrant getting kicked off? O.Gonzalez had a breakout year, gets bumped to A+ ahead of Benson, yet gets kicked from 35+ to others.
No Jose Fermin is another stunner btw. Breakout teenager with IFA pedigree.
Eric and Kiley even gave D.Johnson the same tool grades (even upgraded a couple). I get that the FV downgrade is explained by projecting him as a platoon bat only, but shouldn’t that be reflected at least in one of the tool grades?
I know all of this sounds whiny and it really doesn’t matter. It’s just a prospect list. My disappointment really only stems from my high esteem for both Eric and Kiley, since I believe they’re the best at this. The detail and information is top notch.
That said, the Indians system has a “history” of getting downplayed by scouts, no big deal there, just aesthetics, and to each his own, I guess.
But when the grade inconsistencies creep up on prospects just entering the system from other orgs or draft, it gets weird, as it seems that some got auto-downgraded for no apparent reason other than their affiliation.
Backspinning a ball is a skill and there are quite a few drills to help cultivate it – its not really a mystery to hitters. That said, I am not certain that a player has a ton of control over it. Its an asset if you are good at it and a detriment if you are not. I don’t think I subscribe to the idea that no spin is ideal but that comes from hitting a ball dead-center – its more common in softball where the ball is bigger and its easier to center up. No spin does not make a ball fly further, but it makes them hard to catch as they are just knuckle balls. Spin on batted balls is a major problem with batted ball metrics – two balls with identical LA and EV are going to fly quite differently.
Mercado showed a lot of power in ST. He is reportedly a swing plane changer.
The arm and running both looked very good. If contact holds he could be in CF for a while.
Sicnarf.
The new Nomar?
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For the good of humanity, I hope Sicnarf Loopstok makes it to the Show.
Loopstok didn’t even get a full season assignment by the Indians to start this season, although he did play in minors ST, so unless he got injured right before the star of the season, Sicnarf doesn’t seem to be in their plans.
He did get an internal, lengthy suspension from the Indians late last year, so maybe that’s still an issue or not served out yet.
Is it just me, or does it feel a bit of a light projection to call McKenzie a likely 4th starter and maybe a 3rd starter?
Keep in mind, their definitions of a 4th starter is someone who puts up between 1.8 and 2.5 wins a year, and a 3rd is someone who puts up between 2.5 and 3.4 wins. There are less than twenty #3’s in the league according to Eric and Kiley.
I feel like this happens for every top pitcher; they projected Kopech as a #3 if his stuff came back, and people lost their minds. The reason why is because Eric and Kiley are using a scale which sounds totally insane to the rest of us.
(Also, I don’t necessarily think the #4 projection, with possibly more, is unreasonable given that he doesn’t seem like he’s going to grow into more velocity and his previously sky-high K-rate went down to something much smaller. It doesn’t seem like he’s going to be a regular 4-win type of guy)
I didn’t know this but, if so, any criticism they get is on them. If they’re using a definition that is out of whack with the standard scale, then of course people will raise their eyebrows.
This is kind of my take on it too, because seriously? When you only have about eight #2’s in the league, it’s pretty clear you’re not talking about #2 starters the way the rest of the world is.
Fairly certain Loopstok is still suspended. He’s not on an affiliate roster as of now.
Disappointed to hear about Hankins.
Jose Fermin getting no mention is probably a major oversight among that stockpile of middle infielders.
James Karinchak could be in the majors this year if his command ever comes around. So far it has.