Top 38 Prospects: Chicago White Sox
Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Chicago White Sox. Scouting reports are compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as my own observations. For more information on the 20-80 scouting scale by which all of our prospect content is governed, you can click here. For further explanation of the merits and drawbacks of Future Value, read this.
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| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Luis Robert | 22.7 | AAA | CF | 2020 | 60 |
| 2 | Michael Kopech | 24.0 | MLB | RHP | 2020 | 60 |
| 3 | Andrew Vaughn | 22.1 | A+ | 1B | 2021 | 55 |
| 4 | Nick Madrigal | 23.1 | AAA | 2B | 2020 | 55 |
| 5 | Dane Dunning | 25.4 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 45 |
| 6 | Jonathan Stiever | 23.0 | A+ | RHP | 2022 | 40+ |
| 7 | Zack Collins | 25.2 | MLB | C | 2020 | 40+ |
| 8 | Yermin Mercedes | 27.2 | AAA | DH | 2020 | 40+ |
| 9 | Codi Heuer | 23.8 | AA | RHP | 2021 | 40+ |
| 10 | Micker Adolfo | 23.6 | AA | RF | 2020 | 40+ |
| 11 | Matthew Thompson | 19.7 | R | RHP | 2024 | 40 |
| 12 | Andrew Dalquist | 19.5 | R | RHP | 2024 | 40 |
| 13 | Zack Burdi | 25.1 | AAA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 14 | Danny Mendick | 26.6 | MLB | SS | 2020 | 40 |
| 15 | Blake Rutherford | 23.0 | AA | LF | 2020 | 40 |
| 16 | Luis Gonzalez | 24.6 | AA | RF | 2020 | 40 |
| 17 | Benyamin Bailey | 18.6 | R | RF | 2024 | 40 |
| 18 | Jose Rodriguez | 19.0 | R | SS | 2023 | 40 |
| 19 | Yolbert Sanchez | 23.2 | R | SS | 2025 | 40 |
| 20 | Gavin Sheets | 24.0 | AA | 1B | 2020 | 40 |
| 21 | Konnor Pilkington | 22.6 | A+ | LHP | 2021 | 40 |
| 22 | Luis Alexander Basabe | 23.7 | AA | CF | 2020 | 40 |
| 23 | Tyler Johnson | 24.7 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 24 | Seby Zavala | 26.7 | MLB | C | 2020 | 40 |
| 25 | Jake Burger | 24.1 | A | 3B | 2021 | 35+ |
| 26 | Bryan Ramos | 18.1 | R | 3B | 2023 | 35+ |
| 27 | Lency Delgado | 20.9 | R | 3B | 2023 | 35+ |
| 28 | Lenyn Sosa | 20.3 | A | SS | 2022 | 35+ |
| 29 | Ian Hamilton | 24.9 | MLB | RHP | 2020 | 35+ |
| 30 | James Beard | 19.6 | R | CF | 2024 | 35+ |
| 31 | Zach Thompson | 26.5 | AAA | RHP | 2020 | 35+ |
| 32 | DJ Gladney | 18.8 | R | 3B | 2024 | 35+ |
| 33 | Bryce Bush | 20.4 | A | RF | 2022 | 35+ |
| 34 | Alec Hansen | 25.6 | AA | RHP | 2021 | 35+ |
| 35 | Jimmy Lambert | 25.4 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 35+ |
| 36 | Johnabiell Laureano | 19.6 | R | CF | 2023 | 35+ |
| 37 | Caleb Freeman | 22.2 | A | RHP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 38 | Luis Mieses | 19.9 | R | CF | 2022 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
Catching Depth (and Remillard)
Carlos Perez, C
Gunnar Troutwine, C
Ricardo Aguilar, C
Zach Remillard, SS
Perez, 23, has good bat-to-ball skills and arm strength but little power. He might be a third catcher. Troutwine is a tough dude with great feel for the strike zone. Aguilar just signed. He’s a converted infielder with a compact frame and contact-oriented approach. Remillard is upper-level depth capable of playing almost every position on the field.
High Probability Depth Arms
Andrew Perez, LHP
Matt Foster, RHP
Vince Arobio, RHP
Bernardo Flores, LHP
All of these pitchers are in their mid-20s. Perez needs to find a breaking ball, but he will touch 95 from the left side and his changeup is plus. So, too, is Foster’s; he is also up to 95 with a backspinning axis and relatively flat approach angle. Arobio has a high spin, backspinning fastball, too, but his angle is more downhill. He has the best breaking ball of this group. Flores is a four-pitch lefty with good breaking stuff and a 40 fastball.
Younger, Raw Pitching
Frander Veras, RHP
Davis Martin, RHP
Yoelvin Silven, RHP
McKinley Moore, RHP
Veras is 21 and spent 2019, his first pro season, in the DSL. He was up to 96 there and his changeup has late sinking action at times. Martin is another good Day Three pick out of Texas Tech. He sits 89-94 and has a plus slider. Silven was up to 95 as a 19-year-old in 2019 but his secondary stuff is in the 40/45 area right now. Moore is also arm strength-only right now but he’s a little older and bigger. He’s up to 98.
System Overview
This system remains top-heavy, with much of its oomph packed into the first couple prospects on the list rather than spread throughout the system. I was critical of the org’s ability to develop pitching in last year’s writeup as many of their arms had gone backward throughout 2017 and 2018, but 2019 (best exemplified by Lucas Giolito on the big club and Stiever on the farm) was better. What becomes of Dalquist and Thompson will be a terrific litmus test for the org’s direction since both are really athletic and seem capable of making adjustments. The org seems good at killing spin, as several of their pitchers have offspeed weapons, either splits or changeups, with very low spin compared to those on a lot of other teams.
The White Sox have not yet begun to move any of the players who make up their, uh, glut of big-bodied 1B/DH types, or who threaten to occupy that defensive space at some point soon. Here’s the list of players I think make up that group: Yermin Mercedes, Zack Collins, newly extended José Abreu, newly signed Edwin Encarnación, Micker Adoldo, Andrew Vaughn, Eloy Jiménez, Gavin Sheets, and (fingers crossed for him) Jake Burger. There’s not enough room for all of these guys but they all have value, so it makes sense several will be traded. Gavin Sheets’ 40-man timeline could mean he’s pried from the org for very little since they clearly don’t have room for him but his Rule 5 eligibility is coming.
The White Sox are perhaps the team that would most benefit from an International draft as they seem to sign players who become eligible later in the process, which is why they end up with a lot of Cuban players and signees who commit to deals several months after the signing phase opens. A draft would give them access to a player pool they don’t seem inclined to deal with right now — essentially, all the players who agree to deals well in advance of actually signing them.
Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.
I know it’s a small sample size but if Kopech’s strides in control are real, I still contend that his ceiling is that of an ace and not #3 starter.
This comes up every time and is mostly a matter of definitions. Eric defines an “ace” not as the best pitcher on the staff or even one of the 30 best pitchers in baseball but as: “Top 1-3 arms in baseball. ‘Ace’ if they do it several years in a row.” and being worth 7+ fWAR. These guys are overall 80FV’s. That’s a very high bar to clear. A number 3 is a 60FV worth 3.5 – 4.9 fWAR/year.
As far as his control goes, I’m also excited by the reduction in walks, but I don’t know how to square that with 5 HBP in 14.1 IP. None in that game against Detroit where he was hurt. He also hit 13 guys in 126 AAA IP in 2018. Those 18 HBP would have put him 1 behind Cole Hamels in 2018, but Hamels threw 50 more IP.
The definition of ace can certainly be argued and even though I personally feel he still has ace ceiling upside, even given Eric’s definition. However, he is saying Kopech has “No. 3 starter ceiling”. Not sure if he also has a different defintion for a “No. 3 starter” but I would think that would mean the average third starter in a rotation. If that’s his celiing I imagine the expecation is he’s a #4 or 5. Perhaps I’m misinterpretting it but that would be vastly underestimating his potential IMO.
If I were to hazard a guess at what Eric potentially means is that Kopech, while possessing the hellacious stuff required of true ace-level talents, probably cannot sustain the durability required for consistent 6-7 WAR seasons.
If he is only pitching an average of 140-160 innings a year, that caps his WAR output at around the level of a good #3.
Though perhaps given the steady change of IP requirements in starters, perhaps it will soon be worth revisiting what constitutes a 2 v 3 v 4.
What I find amazing is that Eric feels compelled to mention the “#3 starter upside” every single time with Kopech, so half the times it’s come up it’s come up with Kopech.
I find it incredibly frustrating that they have never directly addressed exactly why they labeled them this way. I get that they did by calculating deviations away in a normal distribution, but it still doesn’t explain the labels.
It gets mentioned every time because the write up hasn’t changed, since little has changed with him in 20 months.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-new-fangraphs-scouting-primer/
Pitcher WAR Mapped to 20-80 Scale
20 Org Guy
30 Up & Down
40 Backend starters, FIP typically close to 5.00
45 #4/5 starters, FIP approx 4.20
50 #4 starters. Approx 4.00 FIP, at times worse but then with lots of innings
55 #3/4 starters. Approx 3.70 FIP along with about 160 IP
60 #3 starters, 3.30 FIP, volume approaching 200 innings
70 #2 starters, FIP under 3, about 200 IP
80 #1s. Top 1-3 arms in baseball. ‘Ace’ if they do it several years in a row
Thanks Bighurt, this helps understand Eric rationale a bit more. I’m still a little confused though as Eric has Kopech graded as a 60 meaning that #3 starter is his expectation, not his ceiling. I would think he’s at least got #2 starter ceiling if not #1.
Thank you so much for posting!
Yermin Mercedes sounds like an effing blast. I am hear for all the stumpy, old prospects with weird swings who hit the crap out of the ball.
Thanks for the write-up – this was a nice start to my day.
I’m surprised that Jonathan Stiever is still ranked 6th despite the forearm injury – are you docking players less for 2020 injuries than you would in a more normal year?
Where would Norge Vera slot in here?
Yeah, I’d be very curious about this as well. He seems like a great target for next year’s FYPD drafts.
Vera is a 40+ on The Board, barely 19 years old, with three pitches that are described as “inconsistent,” and 50FV Command. So maybe just ahead of Stiever since he is 4 years younger?
I read these posts religiously, and never felt compelled to comment until now on behalf of Jonathan Stiever. With his performance, stuff and command I think he is a 45. I’m not even a big fan (after years of expensive time-consuming therapy and many attempts to confront my demons, I still have short pitcher bias), but Cody Bolton is a 45 in Pittsburgh’s system. Bolton has upside/frame but Stiever has command/repertoire.
Obviously way different pitchers, but what do people think Stiever vs. Bolton?
IDK much about Cody Bolton, nor do I know anywhere near as much about prospects as Longenhagen, but most White Sox fans would rate Stiever, Thompson, and Dalquist just behind the top 4.
If MLB doesn’t play in 2020, would Robert & Kopech accrue a year of service time?
Kopech would accrue a year of service since service time accrues while a player is on the disabled list like Kopech was for all of 2019. Robert would not, but he signed a long-term contract so it doesn’t really mater.
It’s too bad that there are all of those actual position players hanging out for the White Sox, because they have a chance in a couple of years to field one of those classic all-1B/DH lineups, like the Mariners nearly did last year with Bruce (RF), Vogelbach (DH), Encarnacion (1B), Healy (3B), Santana (LF), and Narvaez (C).
You could do Collins (C), Vaughn (LF), Adolfo (RF), Mercedes (DH), and Sheets (1B)–that’s a good start. If you don’t want to shift Abreu to 3B (or assume he’s gone), I bet you could get Edwin Rios or Will Craig to handle the hot corner, well, in a manner of speaking. If you really want to go for it, I bet you could trade for Travis Blankenhorn for 2B.
Actually, the ideal situation would be to find another guy so you could stick Adolfo in CF and get another huge-power guy in RF. Then all you need is some guy who played SS in HS but is now 240 and you’ve got a team.
Why do White Sox tend to sign players later in the International Process?
A couple of reasons: one, there was an bonus-skimming scandal by a senior scouting exec in 2008— taking kickbacks from agents of international signees— that destroyed the team’s reputation among agents in the DR particularly, and that’s only just now beginning to heal. The other is that they have a clear focus on (and storied history with) Cuban players, with whom their reputation is much better, and Cuban players are not available on a regular timeframe like J2 Dominican or Venezuelan guys are.
I haven’t been paying as close attention to the team as I used to, but Reinsdorf is also pretty notoriously cheap (especially when it comes to guys like this that are SO far away from the majors). They’ve also been one of the teams recently that loves to trade away bonus pool space. The guys that sign early are also usually the more talented / expensive prospects, no?
you are only allowed a certain level of spending. In the draft, they have spent every penny and up to 5% more for years.
So maybe pay closer attention.
I mean, yeah they’re stepped up their spending there in recent years. what does that have to do with the international market (which is specifically what was being referred to)?
You really haven’t been paying attention.
In May of 2017 they signed 19 year old Luis Robert for $26M (far from MLB, lots of money). They incurred penalties for going over their bonus pool limit including a 100% matching fine (more money) and being disallowed from signing any international FA for more than $300K (I think) over the next two years. So since then they have been trading away bonus pool money they couldn’t use anyway unless they signed a bunch of random guys they didn’t want.
Look, I’m a fan, and I’m not one of those people that’s going to shit on the team no matter what. But it’s pretty clear that spending big on amateur players is something Reinsdorf hass fought at the league and team level for a long time (despite some recent moves to the contrary).
Unless I’m misinterpreting Eric’s comment, Robert is not the type of guy he’s talking about. Hence his specific reference to Cubans being a separate set of players. Yes, I understand they couldn’t sign guys past a certain bonus level, but there were better things to do with that money besides accumulating org guys and avoiding paying buyouts.
International Bonus dollars is not actual “money”. It’s the right to spend money.
Great writeup, always look forward to these! The Mercedes blurb was especially fun to read!
Who’s this guy scoffing that a borderline HOF could possibly be mentioned in the same breath as a top 30 prospect? He seems important
Are you referring to the Konerko/Vaughn comparison? Because good gawd, Konerko is not a borderline hall of famer. Unless McGriff, Helton, Giambi, teixeira, goldschmidt, Rizzo, mattingly, olerud, grace, will clark and Keith Hernandez are all slam dunk first balloters. In which case….nah, konerko’s still not close to the borderline
This made me curious about Hall of Fame 1st basemen. Cabrera’s a slam-dunk to get in, and Palmeiro and McGwire had, uh, some baggage. After those guys on the JAWS list, you’ve got Votto and Helton neck and neck, with Hernandez and Olerud just after them. Somewhere below them they’ve got Will Clark and Fred McGriff (the latter of which I think is being penalized unfairly by BR’s over-adjustment on defense), David Ortiz, and Mark Teixeira.
Konerko sits somewhere between Tino Martinez and Ryan Klesko. Kevin Youkilis had a notably better career than him, and in half the PAs.
Relax. The point still stands
Relax yourself. Konerko was an all time great accumulator. He was almost perfectly between 1.5 and 3 WAR all the time, which tends to trick people like Tony La Russa into thinking they are HOFers. He never had a single season above 4 WAR, but got so many PAs that he got a ton of HR and RBIs. 1.5-3 WAR seems like a reasonable projection for Vaughn. Maybe he doesn’t play a billion years like Konerko, but that’s not a hell of a reach in terms of year to year performance.
He isn’t a HOFer but he compiled 430 bombs and 1400 RBI which are big numbers.
Right. The point was the dude scoffed at the idea that Vaughn should even be mentioned in the same breath as a dude who hit over 400 HRs in the big leagues and had a 120 or better wRC+ in 8 MLB seasons.
It was a joke of a statement. Not sure how that’s even disputable
It’s disputable because konerko just accumulated those numbers while being a thoroughly average player. He was never better than just slightly above average. He was just a guy who accumulated numbers.
I think it’s a fair expectation for Vaughn to be an average player and also for another person to believe he’s better than average.
I think that undersells his offensive contributions significantly. He shouldn’t be penalized for staying really healthy and having a 14 year peak of .862 OPS.
His last 3 healthy years, ages 34-36, were probably his super peak. He figured something out and went to another level.
Not a HOFer but he was one of the best hitters of his time. I don’t think “average or slightly above average” tells the story at all.
What about Elijah Tatis (Fernando Jr.’s brother)? With former MLBer’s kids being all the rage these days, doesn’t his bloodline alone earn him a mention?
How is madrigal a 45 raw power with the kind of average and peak EVs he has shown in the minors?
Are you arguing he should be lower based on his EVs? Because maybe someone has watched his batting cage or gotten EVs when he is in a cage, swinging at good pitches. Because he extends his zone so much, and is all about contact, his softer contact during games may not represent his true “raw” power, if he changes his approach. Due to that though, you see his “game” power way down at 30. So maybe Madrigal has the strength and hitting power much greater but it does not translate in the game situation based on approach? Just my rough thought.
Lower of course, his average and peak EV would have ranked like third last in mlb last year (see Gordon territory).
Maybe it is a bit his approach but his peak EV was 103, only 4 qualified hitters in mlb were lower last year. Maybe he can gain 15 pounds and pack on some pop.
His future Game Power is at 30. So I am guessing he has some more strength seen somewhere that they never think he will harness in a game situation.