Two Versions of Jed Lowrie

Major League Baseball interrupts this Thanksgiving holiday week to announce that Jed Lowrie has been traded from the Astros to the A’s in exchange for minor-league reliever Brendan McCurry. Perhaps it’s a move you find a little strange — Lowrie is in his 30s, and he’s due real money for at least another couple years. He’s going from one team with a very low payroll to another, and last year, the team adding Lowrie won 18 fewer games than the team shedding Lowrie. Typically you see trades like this in the other direction, but for the Astros, Lowrie was no longer a necessary piece. And the A’s are forever on the bubble, trying to avoid any kind of major tear-down. The A’s want to try to contend again. Having Liam Hendriks and a hopefully healthy Sean Doolittle addresses what last year was a catastrophic problem.

That’s the whole idea, in short. The Astros didn’t need Lowrie, and they’ll take the financial flexibility and the interesting young reliever. McCurry could have a real future, and he could have it soon. The A’s, meanwhile, are happy to have Lowrie back at a modest cost, and they like his flexibility. From one perspective, he gives them depth; from another perspective, he gives them trade options. A healthier A’s team could be a .500 ballclub, and a .500 ballclub is always close to the hunt. Okay, everything checks out.

The thing I find most interesting isn’t the Astros’ position, nor is it the A’s position. It isn’t McCurry, either. It’s Lowrie himself. Just how good is Jed Lowrie, really? There’s room for very reasonable disagreement.

Lowrie hit well early on last year. Then he hurt his thumb, and he was out a while. Hit worse after returning. So that’s an obvious factor, and there could be upside here. As a regular, Lowrie’s topped out at a 120 wRC+. But then, his career mark is 102, and he’ll be 32 in April, and Steamer projects him at 95. Perhaps you’re inclined to bump him up to 100. David Forst seems to be a fan, and though you shouldn’t look to a team executive for an unbiased opinion, the A’s did go out to get Lowrie in the first place. Let’s say he’s something like an average hitter. He’s shown some power, despite not really having much power, if you know what I mean. He does just enough of everything.

At the plate, Lowrie isn’t a plus or a minus. On the bases, he isn’t a plus or a minus. I don’t know about his clubhouse presence. He can play all over the infield. But that’s the key right there. How do you rate Lowrie’s defense? As you know, the two usual go-to defensive statistics are UZR and DRS. And they differ on this one.

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Lowrie has played first, and second, and third, but he’s spent the bulk of his time as a shortstop. So, a table. I looked at shortstops with at least 2,000 innings at the position going back to 2003. This gave me a sample of 72 players. Then I calculated UZR per 1000 innings, and DRS per 1000 innings, and I found the difference (UZR – DRS). Here are the 10 shortstops UZR has most liked more than DRS:

Shortstops With 2000+ Innings, 2003 – 2015
Player Innings DRS/1000 UZR/1000 Difference
Jed Lowrie 4220 -8.5 -0.4 8.1
Rich Aurilia 2276 -4.4 3.4 7.8
Derek Jeter 13643 -11.7 -5.6 6.1
Nick Punto 2554 8.2 13.4 5.2
Ruben Tejada 3596 -5.6 -0.4 5.1
Julio Lugo 6904 -5.8 -0.8 5.0
Brad Miller 2235 -4.0 0.8 4.9
Carlos Guillen 4705 -6.4 -1.8 4.6
Willie Bloomquist 2221 -8.1 -4.2 3.9
Orlando Cabrera 10755 -1.2 2.7 3.9

Lowrie in first place, with a difference of more than eight runs per mostly-full season. According to UZR, Lowrie has been a roughly average defensive shortstop. According to DRS, he’s been among the worst defensive shortstops, and when you have disagreements on defense, of course, then you have disagreements on overall value. FanGraphs calculates its WAR using UZR. Baseball-Reference calculates its own WAR using DRS. So now, another table. I examined the last four years, taking players with at least 1,500 plate appearances, giving me a sample of 188 names. I calculated fWAR per 600 plate appearances, and rWAR per 600 plate appearances, and I again subtracted the latter from the former. Here are the 10 players fWAR has most liked more than rWAR:

Players With 1500+ PA, 2012 – 2015
Player PA fWAR/600 rWAR/600 Difference
Alejandro De Aza 2153 2.3 1.2 1.1
Jarrod Saltalamacchia 1580 2.9 1.9 1.1
Hunter Pence 2306 3.5 2.4 1.0
Matt Wieters 1566 3.2 2.2 1.0
Gregor Blanco 1780 3.2 2.3 0.9
Jed Lowrie 1878 2.8 1.9 0.9
Angel Pagan 1928 2.3 1.4 0.9
Jimmy Rollins 2537 2.4 1.6 0.9
Chris Johnson 1941 1.1 0.3 0.8
Danny Espinosa 1601 2.2 1.4 0.8

There’s Lowrie, in sixth. By fWAR, the last four years, Lowrie has been an above-average player. By rWAR, however, he’s been about an exactly average player. The difference is just shy of one full win, which of course is a pretty big deal. How good is Jed Lowrie? By one estimate, he’s worth X. By another estimate, he’s worth X and another, say, $8 million a year. Based on the transaction alone, it might be reasonable to conclude the Astros side more with the DRS perspective, and the A’s side more with the UZR perspective. That’s an over-simplification, or an assumption, or both, but Lowrie is more desirable if you think his defense is all right. If you think he’s a problem, then he’s just a roughly average bat you can move around and hope the ball doesn’t get hit to.

Steamer projects Lowrie to be worth 2 WAR per 600 in the season ahead. That’s not great, but it’s perfectly useful, and worth more than Lowrie’s salary. He projects as well as Brett Gardner and Adam Eaton. But if you knock down the defensive projection, you knock down the WAR projection, and Lowrie at, say, 1.2 WAR would project even with Ruben Tejada and Asdrubal Cabrera. There’s nothing here that’s going to alter the course of a franchise, since we’re talking about a win at most, but both the teams involved in this trade have payrolls low enough they need to mind every million. It might be fair to say the A’s like Lowrie’s defense more than the Astros do. I don’t know who’s actually more right, especially with the increasing prevalence of shifts moving infielders all over the place.

And actually, maybe shifts help; maybe shifts help to artificially boost the range of range-deficient infielders. Maybe the A’s think they can just position Lowrie well. They’ve had experience with him before and they clearly wanted him back. It’s one of those interesting gambles that’s difficult to evaluate both before and after the fact, given the nature of defensive evaluation.

Anyhow, the A’s say they still see Marcus Semien as their shortstop. Semien’s a guy, interestingly, DRS liked more than UZR. But things can change, and Lowrie is going to play. Which means Semien could be moved, or Brett Lawrie could be moved, or Danny Valencia could be moved, or something. There are options, and Lowrie will get his plate appearances and innings. How good, overall, will he be? The A’s think the answer is “pretty good.” The Astros are less enthusiastic.





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Greg
10 years ago

Dave Cameron: Lowrie at 2B, Semien at SS, Lawrie at 3B, Valencia as 1B/OF/bench guy.

Thoughts?

Jordan Aszklar
10 years ago
Reply to  Greg

I’d swap Semien to 2nd and Lowrie to SS. And if there’s a way Valencia can be a LF, all of our OF troubled are cured.

AMartin223
10 years ago
Reply to  Jordan Aszklar

Unfortunately Valencia can most definitely not play left field… the Jays tried him and Colabello in left last season, did not go well..

Trevor Cappa
10 years ago
Reply to  Jordan Aszklar

Lowrie is not a shortstop and Valencia is not a left fielder. Canha can play left and Valencia can play first. After Ron Washington started helping Semien he got a lot better and Lowrie has no range.

Canha Cranberry Sauce
10 years ago

Sure, McCurry might be something, but he’s another soft-tossing reliever with a good curveball. The A’s already have like 4 of those. Trading him for two years of a starting infielder? Pretty stellar.

Jenstrom
10 years ago

Perhaps the A’s see some sort of value in the fact that Lowrie is a very intelligent person?

Dano
10 years ago
Reply to  Jenstrom

Sez Hooo??

David the non-robot
10 years ago
Reply to  Dano

The Department of Political Science at Standford seemed to think so.

Real Person Not Actor
10 years ago
Rob G
10 years ago

Trade high on Valencia and go with a younger Lawrie at 3rd. I think Valencia’s rumored clubhouse antics have more to due with him not wanting to be here. Valencia is at his best when playing every day and needs a home where he can get that. If that’s not the plan, then trade him and the potential baggage. Should be good trade value for a small market club looking to fill a need at 3rd for not a lot of money. Cleveland perhaps.

Spa City
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob G

Valencia must have some sort of problem… The Jays, a well-run organization, let a player who hits exactly like Danny Valencia go for nothing during a pennant race. That does not happen often.

dc
10 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

sure thats one theory if you lack context.

or if you look at the situation, Jays had to let him go because they needed 2B help and didn’t thin DV was viable there.

simple as that.

Jim
10 years ago
Reply to  Rob G

“Trade high” is great–in theory. But Valencia being let go by the Blue Jays for nothing has some bad connotations, and Valencia is due a raise in arbitration, and he’s a 1B/3B/DH who can’t play 3B very well, so…

I sense a non-tender coming for Danny Valencia next week.

Oops…Spa City already said some of this below me. Sorry. 🙂

Ultimately, it’s probably going to be Sogard at 2B, Semien at SS, Brett Lawrie at 3B with Lowrie backing up all 3 positions–a kind of super utility guy, and if Semien really struggles, he’ll get significantly more playing time there.

Jim S.
10 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Valencia was let go because of roster limitations. They couldn’t keep him on the 25-man, and they couldn’t send him down.

Ryan
10 years ago
Reply to  Jim S.

He’s also been with a big pile of orgs in the last three years. He’s a nice lefty mashing bench piece. There also wasn’t really anything in his track record to suggest last year’s first half was legit. I was shocked the HR barrage continued in Oakland, personally. It’s a plus to have him on a roster but counting on him to start 150 games rather than be a good insurance policy is how black holes happen.

Brad JohnsonMember
10 years ago
Reply to  Jim S.

It looks like he learned to hit righties. That’s not a shocking development for a right-handed hitter. Very few remain pure platoon bats indefinitely.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2020
10 years ago

In his first stint with the A’s Lowrie’s defense did not pass the eye test for me, as well as all the other A’s fans I talked to about it. With him and Semien their middle infield has the potential to be a special kind of ugly.

baycommuter
10 years ago

Semien was decent in the second half, the first half he got so flustered he had the yips. Lowrie has no range at SS but could be decent at 2B.

MGL
10 years ago

When DRS and UZR (or any other similar, equally credible metrics) differ, it is not a “difference of opinion that needs to be resolved.” It’s not a question of “which one to believe” (which we read about 123 times a year).

Both metrics, in this case, have noise. Sometimes the noise “swings in different directions” for each metric. This is a really important point. It’s really as simple as that. (It’s not quite as simple as that but for the purposes of this discussion…).

If you nothing else about the player’s defense, if you know his UZR projection use that. If you know his DRS use that. If you know both, take the average and use that. No need for these articles going on and on about “depending upon which one you believe.

It’s a little like I write an article about player x’s value and I say, “His OPS on odd days is .800 and on even days it’s .700. Depending upon which one you believe…”

From now on just use one defensive metric or the other or combine both and call it, “UZDRS.” When UZR says -5 runs and DRS says +2, it’s not like STATS says 10 HR and BIS says 6 HR. It’s nothing like that. Both defensive metrics are approximations with lots of noise. You want to reduce the noise, average both. You also get a bonus of creating more “wisdom of the crowd.” But please stop suggesting that one or the other is the truth and we have to figure out which one it is. It’s not like that at all.

Yaahh
10 years ago
Reply to  MGL

Amen sister

Jetsy Extrano
10 years ago
Reply to  MGL

They do have real methodological differences though, right? Such as around shifts. So somebody might go with a 60-40 blend, or more extreme depending on their assessment.

You personally choose 50-50? That’s interesting.

MGL
10 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

I default to 50/50. I don’t know which one is better or I would change the ratio. Ideally you want metrics with different methodologies when averaging them. You get more of the “wisdom of the crowd” effect. For defensive metrics you also ideally want different data sets (so that the noise and bias is reduced). In the case of DRS and UZR unfortunately they use the same data set.

Personally I average PM and UZR and add in GFP and BFP.

But I was making an important (I think) general point regarding this silly “depending upon whom you believe” meme which is generally a waste of space wrt to using more than one credible defensive metric.

that guy
10 years ago
Reply to  MGL

“But I was making an important (I think) general point regarding this silly “depending upon whom you believe” meme which is generally a waste of space wrt to using more than one credible defensive metric.”

Agreed, but that last “to” is also a waste of space 😉

bcpkid
10 years ago
Reply to  MGL

“In the case of DRS and UZR unfortunately they use the same data set.”

If this is true, aren’t they truly two differing takes on the same phenomena? I’m asking seriously–I don’t pretend to have a complete understanding of either stat.

wily moMember since 2020
10 years ago

there’s only one version of jed lowrie, lawrie is a different guy

Eric
10 years ago

I know this is an article on lowrie and in part his defense, but I cannot figure out where else to ask this question. So here goes:

On fangraphs stats pages or any stat pages anywhere, does anyone keep track of a double play histogram, for example, if there were 12,000 double plays in a year,

how many were the 4-6-3 type,
how many were the 6-4-3 type,
how many were the 3-6-3 type,
how many were the 5-4-3 type, ETC

Where can I find this info?

I am doing/creating some new defensive stats and I need this help.
If someone wants to reply to me they can email me at thecrazybaseballcoach@gmail.com with the answer.
Eric

MGL
10 years ago
Reply to  Eric

Retrosheet.org