Vincent Velasquez Has Almost Everything
There’s no point in lying about what the Phillies are. The fans know the Phillies aren’t going to be very good. The front office knows they aren’t going to be very good. I’m sure even the players understand on some level this team isn’t going to be very good. It’s not about competing in 2016. That’s abundantly clear, and that’s OK, because it’s kind of liberating. Some of the pressure comes off, and you play or watch baseball with development in mind. It’s all about the future, and it’s all about imagining which current players could be a part of a future Phillies contender.
Hello, Vincent Velasquez. It’s not like Velasquez has come out of nowhere or anything, since he was the key to the Ken Giles trade, but he’s been something of a wild card. Velasquez arrived with a lot of uncertainty, just another powerful arm with question marks. Then, Thursday, Velasquez delivered one of the better starts the Phillies organization has seen. By the numbers, that’s not even exaggerating. He was, granted, pitching against the Padres — a Padres lineup without its best hitter — but Velasquez was completely untouchable. Something is becoming clear here in the early going: Velasquez has almost everything working for him.
I’ll show you a few things. A changeup? Velasquez has a changeup. It’s gotten good reviews in the past, even though he hardly needed it against San Diego.
A breaking ball? Velasquez has a big breaking ball. He has what’s almost a 12-to-6 curve, and compared to last year, this 2016 curve is getting more drop. Last season, 1% of Velasquez’s pitches dropped at least eight inches according to PITCHf/x. This season, he’s at 17%. He’s moved from something of a slurve to more of a true hammer, and he somehow has control over it.
There is a slider in there, too. Velasquez doesn’t use it much. He’s known mostly for his fastball. He definitely has a high fastball:
But there’s also the matter of Velasquez’s zone fastball. This might be the very biggest deal. Observe:
For the record, that was pitch No. 113. It was 96 miles per hour. That’s another good sign — in Velasquez’s first-ever complete game as a professional, his velocity held up. He showed no signs of wearing down. He had so much strength left, in fact, that the Phillies let him take the mound in the ninth in the first place. But anyway, Velasquez wasn’t just showing a high fastball that was tough to catch up to. He was giving the Padres fits in the strike zone, and that typically requires a special kind of fastball. One more time — yes, Padres, I know. But Velasquez just recorded 20 swings and misses on his fastball alone. One game. That ties the high mark for anyone in the PITCHf/x era:
- Vincent Velasquez, 4/14/16, 20 fastball swinging strikes
- Max Scherzer, 10/3/15, 20
- Matt Harvey, 4/3/13, 20
- David Price, 7/7/10, 20
Velasquez knows he has a swing-and-miss fastball, and he’s starting to pitch aggressively with it. This is where his fastballs have gone so far in 2016:
You see the whiffs over the plate. But you might also notice that the fastballs are pretty well clumped together. There aren’t a whole lot of wild ones, outside of a few that Velasquez overthrew Thursday as he was getting deeper. I decided to come up with something we’ll call “Competitive Fastball Rate.” It’s like zone rate, except the boundaries are a little bigger than the strike zone. By my measure, last year, Velasquez threw 71% competitive fastballs. So far this year he’s up to 84%. That shows better control and better confidence in the pitch. It was clear on Thursday that Velasquez realized he could just blow the heat by the hitters. When you can do that, pitching becomes incredibly simple.
Plenty of pitchers are able to get swings and misses out of the zone. Velasquez looks like someone who could be able to get swings and misses in the zone, and that’s tougher. In that fastball swing-and-miss leaderboard, you see Scherzer’s name. Last year, among qualified pitchers, Scherzer generated baseball’s lowest rate of in-zone contact. Here’s a quote from Thursday’s postgame recap:
“There’s riding life in the zone with [Velasquez’s] fastball,” Padres manager Andy Green said. “It was explosive, reminds me of when I saw Scherzer going as well as he goes, and that fastball is literally exploding through the zone.”
Results like Scherzer. An independent comparison to Scherzer. Vincent Velasquez is not Max Scherzer, but he might have the same kind of fastball, and when you have that fastball, it opens so many doors. Scherzer has always put up a pretty high zone rate, because he doesn’t have to leave the zone to get whiffs. Velasquez has pitches to get hitters to chase, and he will throw them, but the fastball lets him be aggressive, and that lets him stay ahead. The whole thing kind of snowballs.
I don’t want to make too much of one complete game. Velasquez is going to have his hiccups. But he’s believing in his fastball, and he’s got a full repertoire. He’s refined a better hook, and it’s not like he didn’t get his strikeouts in the minors. Vincent Velasquez has almost everything. The one thing he doesn’t have is a clean health history, and there’s nothing he can do about that. That same health history scared off some potential offseason suitors, and it would be silly to suggest there isn’t any risk. The Phillies acquired Velasquez knowing his elbow could once again give him trouble. Yet it’s seeming like that’s the only way they don’t come out the winner of the Giles trade. To me, there are two options. One, Velasquez gets hurt. And two, Velasquez is a legitimate power starter. You always hope against any injury, and as long as Velasquez can take the mound, there’s no clear ceiling on his potential.
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I can’t wait until he pitches against us. It will give me a chance to finish up some crossword puzzles while I’m coaching first.
Snore.
Not trying to overreact to one game but watching the highlights remind me of a young Verlander. He could freeze you with the 12-6 curveball in any count or just reach back and throw it right by you middle-middle at 100mph
Assuming Velasquez avoids major injury, no matter how good of a career Giles puts together, a starting pitcher with that ability is always the greater asset. Have the Phillies given any indication on a plan for Velasquez’s innings limit? His build, arm strength, and delivery indicate future workhorse, but the Astros had been jerking him around between starting and relieving since his high innings mark in 2012 of 124.2 IP in (A) ball. Since 2012 he only has 85.2 IP above (A) ball. Does 125-150 IP seem to be a reasonable progression? IMO the key to arm procurement is limiting the stress innings, pulling pitchers when they face 2-3 consecutive innings of stress regardless of pitch count. In many cases that could be the 4th or 5th inning at 70-80 pitches.
I haven’t heard them come out and say it, but it’s almost a guarantee he doesn’t throw over 150 innings. He’s never thrown more than 130 innings, and that was in A Ball in 2013.
The young pitching in baseball today is insane. In. Sane. What the heck. I was just thinking about how Noah Syndergaard is showing signs of being the next big thing even beyond what his rotation-mates have, and now Velasquez goes and does this.
Velazquez was not the key to the Giles trade. That would be the Mark Appel/Derek Fisher piece – Velazquez was not ranked higher anywhere. Regardless, a massive overpay for a reliever. Especially terrible when you consider that Giles is not established and has a history of command issues.
Pretty sure Velasquez was the centerpiece, not that this is really falsifiable
Velasquez was rated significantly higher than Fisher. Appel was ranked higher than both in early 2015 and did get more mainstream attention than Velasquez in the officially completed trade, but that was due to his greater familiarity as a former #1 overall pick. Appel’s star had already dimmed significantly by that point and Mr. Sullivan is absolutely correct that Velasquez was considered the better prospect four months ago.
Plus Derek Fisher wasnt traded.
Not that I think he cheated but could it be a possibility?
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I think it may have been a mistake to throw him out there in the 9th. He “already” had 103 pitches, and he’s coming off a year in which he didn’t pitch a ton of innings and acted as a swingman.
I just don’t really see the point in keeping him out there. Sure it increases the chances of the Phils winning the game, but who cares? Like Sullivan said, they’re in no position to win the division. The reward simply wasn’t worth the risk in my humble freaking opinion.
Agreed…it’s exciting and all but, 100 pitches in any game for Velasquez this year should be plenty.
The one counter-point that comes to mind is that I have heard from many pitchers that pitches-per-inning is somewhat more significant than total pitch number. 103 pitches through 8 innings is almost precisely 13 per inning, which is quite efficient. Likely, he had frequent enough rest that he wasn’t particularly stressed, so going one more inning probably was fine. If he had made 103 through 6 innings, at over 17 per, he would probably have been more fatigued, making that 103 worse than the actual 103 yesterday.
The kid pitched out of his mind, reward him by letting him go for the complete game! I can imagine it’s a huge confidence boost. Like you said the, Phils aren’t going anywhere – so you can just shut him down two games earlier.
I’m all for caution, but I’m pretty sure he never felt stressed in the first eight innings. He was cruising, so it’s not like he was asked to throw more high-leverage pitches after already handling a bunch. Yeah, the upside of competing the game is minimal, outside of the symbolism. So long-term, maybe it was silly. But I don’t think it did much to budge the risk meter.
I think we analytics types are too quick to ignore that kind of symbolism, and forget these are human beings and that psychology is part of player development. For a young guy who hasn’t had tons of success at the ML level, having that kind of experience under your belt can be a real confidence builder.
We’re not talking about 140 pitches on short rest; provided they take it easy on him in his next start, I see not problem.
I just hope I’m wrong and he doesn’t miss his next start with “shoulder soreness” or “muscle fatigue” or “dead arm” or the all-encompassing “flu-like” symptoms”. His future is vastly more important to the organization than securing a scoreless 9th in what will ultimately prove to be a meaningless game.
he can miss the next start with “flu-like symptoms” as he deserves a lengthy celebration. As a Phillies fan, this may have been the peak of the season.
Huge Boner for houston!!!! This was there guy he could’ve slotted into the pen Eff Giles.. TERRIBLE trade
A quick look at the Team Leaderboard shows the Phillies staff has 2.5 WAR, a full win better than the #2 White Sox. That’s the same as the difference between the White Sox and the #17 Twins.
As a Phillies fan, I’m going to go ahead and declare that totally 100% sustainable.
Chris sale read this and decided to throw a 3 hitter
Theres something about that fastball delivery. Like the quote “explodes through the zone”.
Reminds me of Matt Garza back when Garza was a shiny new pre-arb toy.