Why Has the World Series Felt Boring?

Game 4 of the World Series started like gangbusters for the Houston Astros in Washington. A game-opening strikeout by Patrick Corbin against George Springer was followed with four straight singles, producing two runs to give Houston the first lead of the night. Corbin was able to leave the bases loaded in the top of the first to keep his side in the game, but when his pitcher opponent Jose Urquidy took the mound in the bottom half of the inning, he made quick work of the Nationals, inducing two foul pop-ups and stranding Anthony Rendon after his two-out single.

The rest of the game carried on, well, pretty much exactly like that. Each starter traded scoreless innings in the second and third innings, but then the Astros added on with a two-run homer by Robinson Chirinos in the fourth. Washington put up some fight by loading the bases with one out in the bottom of the sixth to bring Juan Soto up representing the tying run, but all Soto could do was bring in a single run with an otherwise harmless groundout. The Astros got their own bases-loaded opportunity the very next inning, and they didn’t miss it, with Alex Bregman crushing a grand slam to put the game out of reach. Houston got a lead early, and aside from a fleeting moment or two, never really seemed in danger of losing it, eventually tacking on enough insurance to make the Nationals’ final few at-bats little more than a formality. Here’s what the win probability chart looked like from that game:

After the fourth batter of the night, Washington’s win probability was never higher than 40%. After the sixth inning, it was never better than 15%. All told, it looked like a typical one-sided baseball game. There’s nothing wrong with that on its face, but when stacked up next to the other four games that have taken place in this World Series, there’s been a troubling trend. According to our calculations, the loser of Game 1, Houston, never had better than a 36.5% chance to win that game after the fifth inning. In Game 2, Houston’s odds of winning were below 2% entering the eighth. Washington’s highest odds of winning after the fifth inning of Game 3 were just 24.5%, and its odds of winning Game 5 after the fourth inning were never better than 13.2%.

This is all normal baseball. Take any stretch of five games from any team in the regular season, and the odds you’ll come up with five games in a row like this aren’t terribly long. What this hasn’t necessarily been, however, is exciting baseball. Tense baseball. Sprint-to-the-fridge-because-your-beer-mug-is-empty-but-this-next-batter-might-change-the-entire-season-on-the-very-next-pitch baseball. It’s been perfectly fine, if a little long and tiresome, but fine isn’t what MLB wants this time of year, and it’s not what you or I want as fans. This is the World Series, dag nabbit. These games are supposed to be great, and by and large, all we’ve gotten are relative clunkers. What gives?

Lack of drama has been a problem thus far, and part of that has been an absence of lead changes. In Game 1, Washington fell behind 2-0 in the first inning but came back to score single runs in the second and fourth before breaking through with three runs to take the lead in the fifth. That is the only lead change that has taken place through five games of this World Series, which the Astros now lead 3-2. With the caveat that there will be at least one more game in this series, that lack of back-and-forth pales in comparison to most other World Series this decade.

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The 2010 World Series was similarly lacking in major in-game swings, as were 2012 and 2016. For the most part though, the past few years of postseason play have been notable for the number of rallies, big and small, that have taken place and helped decide the winner. Some of those lead changes have come early in games, while others have been dramatic late-game comebacks. Those are completely missing from this year’s World Series.

To be clear, the fact that a World Series is bereft of lead changes — late in the game or otherwise — doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a boring set of games. The 2016 World Series, for example, was a seven-game thriller between two franchises looking to end horrendous championship droughts, with Game 7 lasting 10 innings. No one would claim that series lacked excitement, but the difference between a series like that and the 2019 version lies in how close the contests are to begin with. While a few games from 2016 could be considered duds, three of them were decided by only one run. This year, meanwhile, is shaping up to be the most lopsided collection of games in years.

With an average win margin of 5.2 runs per game, this year’s World Series is outpacing every other one this decade. It’s a far cry from the last two, which featured average win margins of just 2.3 runs per game in 2017 and 2.8 runs per game in 2018, and combined with the fact that the team running away with things late has almost exclusively been the team who got the lead early, it’s made for some pretty dull action.

But what’s causing this? The Astros entered this series favored more heavily than any World Series team since 2007, according to ESPN, and our own playoff odds estimated they had a startling 72.1% chance of defeating Washington after the end of the ALCS. But that doesn’t necessarily mean each game was supposed to be a runaway. These two teams had the best rotations in baseball, and even if the Astros held the edge both at the plate as well as in the bullpen, conventional wisdom suggested that these games should have been closely contested. The first game was close at the end, and the second game was close until the Nationals exploded for 10 runs in the final three innings, but besides that, fans of all sides have been able to mostly relax comfortably in the backs of their seats rather than bounce a leg and bite their nails at the edges of them.

That’s because the team that’s losing at any given moment simply hasn’t hit the same way they have when they’re ahead or when the game is tied.

Nationals Offense During WS Games
Situation AVG OBP SLG OPS
Ahead 0.281 0.361 0.500 0.861
Tied 0.306 0.359 0.417 0.776
Behind 0.214 0.267 0.327 0.594

Astros Offense During WS Games
Situation AVG OBP SLG OPS
Ahead 0.275 0.368 0.461 0.829
Tied 0.333 0.388 0.444 0.832
Behind 0.270 0.325 0.568 0.893

The Nationals are a shell of themselves when playing from behind in this series, while a couple of homers late in Games 1 and 2 help disguise the fact the Astros aren’t the same offensive team in comeback situations either. On one level, this data shouldn’t be earth-shattering — teams who are behind are going to face better relievers, while a team that is already ahead will get to chip away at the second tier of their opponents’ bullpen.

But in this case, it isn’t as though the Nationals have used the majority of their plate appearances when trailing against Houston’s relief aces. They’ve played from behind for most of the past three games and were unable to put together any offense against Zack Greinke — who had previously struggled in this postseason — and Urquidy, despite being able to steal a lead and build upon it against Gerrit Cole and Justin Verlander earlier in the series. For both teams, falling behind has coincided with someone flipping an off switch within their own lineup. The trailing team has rarely put itself in position to remedy its situation, which is how you get a collection of games that feel all but decided by the fifth inning.

Has this ruined the World Series? Not necessarily. Postseason baseball carries with it a baseline of enjoyment, and baseball in general is a good and welcome thing in this world, especially in these final days of October, when we know we only have so much of it left before it disappears for a few cold months. Decry the quality of World Series games at will, but keep in mind the structure of this game inherently prevents it from producing drama with the speed and fury of other sports.

No one is ever going to compare playoff baseball to, say, playoff hockey. At best, playoff baseball is like a slow-paced game of whack-a-mole, in which the moles pop up 45-60 seconds apart, and every so often, one of them gives you a high voltage shock of electricity, and also lifts its shirt for some reason. The whole time you’re playing, you’re waiting to get shocked, and when you do, boy is the hurtin’ good. Sometimes, the shocks come in bunches. Sometimes, you stand there whacking moles for five games, thinking, “gee, feels like I should have gotten that sweet, sweet shock by now.”

The ingredients are there for more electricity. Juan Soto is still here, as is the best position player free-agent-to-be, one of the best offenses in baseball history, and one of the most unstable bullpens in history. There’s a really good chance the next couple of days give us something we’ll remember fondly for the rest of the winter. It would do us all well for baseball to give us a rousing send-off for 2019. Even if it doesn’t though, I have a feeling it still won’t be any easier to say goodbye.





Tony is a contributor for FanGraphs. He began writing for Red Reporter in 2016, and has also covered prep sports for the Times West Virginian and college sports for Ohio University's The Post. He can be found on Twitter at @_TonyWolfe_.

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algionfriddo
6 years ago

So far Carlos Correa, Yordan Alvarez & Juan Soto have K’d a combined 65 times in 168 postseason at bats. Thrilling stuff.

Joe Joe
6 years ago
Reply to  algionfriddo

Even with Correa, those three have a combined 0.313 BA with a 0.427 wOBA. Nothing more boring than hits, getting on base, hitting for power, scoring runs, and guys driving in runs. I long for thrilling ground outs and pop ups.

notdeananna
6 years ago
Reply to  algionfriddo

Strikeouts are fun.

andrewj
6 years ago

It feels boring because everybody falls asleep during the games

Monsignor Martinez
6 years ago
Reply to  andrewj

It’s totally true for those of us in the Eastern Time zone. I typically go to bed between 11-12 and I think I stay up later than many of my coworkers. I really think moving the start time to an earlier hour would enable everybody to see the later innings in all parts of the country.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago

False. The game starts at 5:00 on the west coast. You can’t start any earlier than that. I am sorry that y’all have to stay up late but at least you can if you want to. A working person can’t start before 5:00.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago
Reply to  andrewj

i know for me, with the games not being close late for the most part, i’ve been going to bed instead of waiting for the games to end. if they were close, i would be up til the games end if i have to

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago

This has been a bonus for me. The games have been decided early which saves me some time watching a game that is over. Whether the games are decided late or early doesn’t really matter if you are watching it. If you are not watching it, then the highlights are all that matter anyways and when those happen is irrelevant. I don’t mind calling it a night if I am tired.

fjtorres
6 years ago

The series has felt boring because there been no changes in leadership in DC.
The data simply documents it.
A good, thrilling game isn’t decided until the last out and except for the first game the games feel out ouf reach long before.
If inning by inning numbers were available, they’d show viewers quitting increasingly early.

Roger21
6 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

Don’t worry, I think we’ll see “changes in leadership in DC” fairly soon . . . .

fjtorres
6 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

Jeeze, is everything political these days?
*Score* leadership!!!
Try comparing this WS to 2016: two good team jockeying for position, trading leads, great athletes giving everything they had to give until they had no more to give.

Ah, never mind…
I’m outta here.

bglick4
6 years ago

I….I’ve enjoyed the series to date. I feel that anytime a game is tense as long as a team is down by 3 runs or less; a bloop hit, a walk, and a homer and Bob’s your uncle. I think that’s why I like baseball. Three runs is considered a big lead, and most games are won by about this (didn’t check, may not be true), so most games are fun. In American Football, a late three score lead is rarely overcome. If your team is down 21 with six minutes left, you can probably go home. But, such comebacks happen all the time in baseball. There’s almost always hope. Even if a team has been in the driver’s seat the whole game, more times than not, the losing team is still just a bloop single and two mistakes away from making a game of it.

Maverik312
6 years ago
Reply to  bglick4

I agree. I was just saying to my co-workers that this has been one of my favorite WS and I’m not a fan of either team. I am enjoying the macro-level drama as opposed to the micro/game-level drama.

Astros have been the favorites to win this thing since day one, and their odds increased when they added effing Greinke. Goliath has been here. A buncha young studs just mowing through the MLB. 107 wins. Cy Young winner JV, untouchable Gerrit Cole – who hadn’t lost a game since May 22nd – this team looked un-freaking-beatable.

Enter the Nats, who didn’t even win their division. They were 4th in their division until mid-June. They didn’t become second in their division until 4th of July weekend. They almost lost it in the beginning of August. They won 19/24 games during a hot streak in August. They beat the NL favorites, Dodgers, in a gritty 5 game series. They rolled through the Cardinals and gained some hype. Stephen Strasburg, who has been known to be made up of Legos, finally pitched over 200 IP. There’s an article on him today about how he’s a post-season god. The Nats won the first two games IN HOUSTON. They used their newly-acquired, expensive “ace”, Patrick Corbin, as a reliever! Holy smokes.

Houston comes back to win the next three in a ROW! Are you kidding me? They’re just making it look fluky as all hell. Scherzer wakes up and can’t even move, like the Tin-Man needing some oil. The former Cy Young winner for the underdog team is immobilized. Crap. Well, I guess Joe Ross(?) will have to start? Strasburg comes back and dominates game 6. Nationals crush Verlander. Rendon looking to earn BIG this offseason with 3 hits and 5 RBIs in a clutch game 6. Bregman carries his bat to first – Soto rebuttals. Trea Turner called out a questionable call that got Martinez ejected. The situation changed from 2nd and 3rd with no outs, to 1st with 1 out.

Finally, some merciful baseball god granted 35-year-old, multiple-Cy-Young-award-winner, Max Scherzer his mobility. Dude was crow hopping long toss a day after he couldn’t move. Nats had him warming in the pen last night when it was a 1 run lead (prior to Rendon’s blast). Couldn’t even dress himself.

And now we have game 7. Nothing before this even matters. Scherzer woke up on the right side of the bed, and now the Nats are in Houston, with one of the best pitchers in the game, starting game 7 of the World Series – against one of the best hitting lineups in all of baseball.

Edit: Lolz and I didn’t even revel in the fact that this all happened the year Bryce left.

HamelinROY
6 years ago

I can’t be the only one that, as a neutral observer, has a hard time feeling happy for any success the Astros are having due to the Taubman incident.

Monsignor Martinez
6 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

FWIW, the Astros did fire Taubman after that.

HamelinROY
6 years ago

Only after calling the journalist ‘fake news’ and questioning their integrity.

baubo
6 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

I mean sure if you hate a team then yes that team being up 3-2 probably will not entertain you. But I am pretty sure that’s a different topic than what’s discussed here. Since your idea of entertainment is likely a 4-0 Nationals sweep where each game is 10-0.

HamelinROY
6 years ago
Reply to  baubo

No, in general I would prefer hard fought games where I just get to enjoy good baseball. It has just been harder to enjoy the Astros success part of that back and forth.

Anthony Princeton
6 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

The Taubman incident is so ridiculous. Far too much hand wringing and words have already been wasted on this “issue”. Let me add a few more. People are so soft and pathetic these days, victims of our own success. There is so littler real strife that we have to exaggerate and in some cases fabricate drama and incidents. Although, we have plenty of actual excitement here on the south side of Chicago if anyone is bored. Just last week my wife was walking into a gas station at 9am on a Thursday as someone was hurriedly exiting past her. Turns out he had just tried to rob the place with a knife. This being the south side, he was chased out by the owner and a female employee. hahah, a knife.

“And in the center of the room, assistant general manager Brandon Taubman turned to a group of three female reporters, including one wearing a purple domestic-violence awareness bracelet, and yelled, half a dozen times, “Thank God we got Osuna! I’m so f—— glad we got Osuna!””

Maybe the bigger issue is the mental stability of the reporters. I have read the SI article and several others and if I am missing more to the story please let me know. Not sure why they lied, if anything that is worse than the actual incident.

Maverik312
6 years ago

“Adult” executive/leader screams at women with the subtext of domestic abuse. If he did this in a room full of reporters, what kind of bullying is this guy, who has power, doing behind closed doors.

Knife/robbery > Taubman > anyone else having a good day.

It sounds like you’re saying he shouldn’t be held accountable. No one is saying that what he did was worse than robbery with a knife.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

Nationals fans spent seven years irrationally cheering Harper as the second coming and calling anyone who disliked him jealous. Then, when the team low-balled him and he left, almost to a person, every Nats fan acted like he was both Judas and simultaneously completely overrated. If you knew as many Nats fans as I do, I think you could find a way to root for the Astros (especially since they fired that douchebag and apologized).

bly
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Home team fans see players for what they’re capable of, not who they are, so Nats fans loved Harper. Phillies fans will too. I think the boos you hear when he’s in DC are a minority of fans.

I still like the guy and think he did a lot for the Nats as an organization as well as baseball by advocating for not throwing at batters and allowing some batter celebration.

I’ll finish with, low ball? Are you sure the Nats didn’t make the second largest offer he got? I’m not.

TheodoreMember since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

As a Nationals fan who found Harper’s presence disturbing from the moment I first laid eyes on him when the team unveiled him at Hagerstown, MD, I must admit I have nevertheless enjoyed watching the kids and the casual fans who were brought aboard by the hype around him. I remember when he hit three home runs early in 2012 and writing that he was the closest thing to Frank Howard that anyone in DC had seen since 1971. All of that was a good thing and it is difficult to assert that he has not had a positive influence on the game overall. I would never tell a young boy or girl wearing a Harper jersey that their devotion was in any way flawed. But the farther removed he is from DC by time, the more it will become apparent that he does not make a team better despite his statistical contributions. He will always be a fine player, but he with either learn what it takes to win in baseball or he will not. Time will tell. Harper’s admiration for LeBron James offers fine insights into the problem. LeBron James is obsessed with winning, and he can quite literally pick up a team and carry them to a win by his single-minded devotion to outscoring his opponents. But that is made possible because there are only five players on the court and if he has to do it all himself, he can and will. Harper’self-infatuation gets in the way in a game where almost thrice as many players are involved. His demands that the camera remain on him detract from the many players who are laying it all out for the team. It is rare that Harper’s bat or glove becomes the difference between a win or a loss because baseball does not often allow one player to define the moment. Last night’s Game Six of the World Series against the Astros is an excellent case in point. Strasburg and Rendon rise to the occasion in amazing ways, But Soto and Eaton make fine plays and their home runs begin the resurgence. The game story is about pitching coach Paul Menhart tweaking Strasburg’s delivery or Davey Martinez lighting a fire under his players at great risk to himself. The team as a whole rose to the occasion as much as there were great singular efforts. I think you fail to grasp the communal nature of the game, how a team comes together as a family if it is to win. But your dismissal of fans in DC is tone deaf and insulting. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are great fans who love the game, enjoy it for all the many moments of frustration and the heights of joy it affords. We have labored long to see a great team with many wonderful players, a handful of whom will have their individual contributions recognized by Cooperstown and the Hall of Fame. There will be those whose excellence is defined by their Under Armour and New Era. contracts. On a more distant stage, you will find us, rapturous to be watching our boys playing for a World Series Championship and savoring every moment of every game it takes to get there.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Theodore

Thanks for the post. I agree with a lot of what you said about Bryce Harper. WAR does not equal wins – Bryce Harper is that poster boy.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Weird crowd reading this article today. I liked your comments about the Bryce Harper situation.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

Fitting that the Twitter discussion is in a thread about this being a boring series. Twitter is a better fit for this discussion.

docgooden85Member since 2018
6 years ago

I never think the World Series is boring. You see, I enjoy watching baseball games.

Bobby Ayala
6 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

You’re on the wrong site for that friend

sphenreckson
6 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

I don’t think the point is that this baseball is boring compared to, say, watching paint dry. I think it means boring compared to past baseball games / world series’. If you’re entertained by less interesting and compelling baseball, fine, but you would be more entertained by more exciting baseball games, no?

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  sphenreckson

I don’ think this series could be any better… unless I had a team I was pulling for. All baseball is boring if you want to call some of it boring. I think basketball is boring because there are no truly big moments except for a final shot.

I don’t even know what more entertaining would mean. It would probably mean seeing less of possibly the best SP in the history of the WS (kind of pulled that from thin air, but we have 2 HOF + Greienke, Cole and Stras) as they have been on the field a lot. More exciting baseball would be sloppy for sure.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Greinke is pretty much HOF bound as well….

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

I don’t watch every WS… but I certainly wouldn’t make the excuse that it is because it is boring. It would be because I chose not to watch it. I also watch the games and have not found them boring .

Anon21Member since 2018
6 years ago

It hasn’t been thrilling, but as a confirmed Nationals Hater, I really don’t mind a calm, methodical strangulation of their World Series chances, so you can watch the light fade from their eyes at leisure.

Is it too much to ask that Rendon and Strasburg use their post-series loss presser to announce they will never sign with Washington again under any circumstances?

emh1969
6 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

“as a confirmed Nationals Hater”

This is a thing??? Who knew???

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

It’s an odd train to be on, but it does make him special

lillypad
6 years ago
Reply to  JCCfromDC

A lot of O’s fans feel this way for reasons I don’t entirely understand.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

I think calling this methodical is a stretch. Sure, HOU has done that in the first two rounds but this time they don’t have Cole sitting around waiting to start and their bullpen could be in better shape. HOU are certainly the favorites to win game 7, but this hasn’t gone as well as the other series.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

I don’t know how much of favorite Houston is. It’s definitely not a big favorite… Greinke in a big game situation?

Handsome Wes
6 years ago

#1) The games are too long (with the exception of the last 3:19 game, the shortest game was 3:43)… I pin the blame on MLB for adding an extra minute of commercials per each half-inning break.
#2) The games are on too late. I’m on East Coast time and they’re finishing up at around midnight (and while yes, you could say ‘toughen it up and roll in a little tired to work the next morning,’ you can’t say the same thing to any kid still in school. How’s MLB going to grow the game when the youth are in bed during its biggest games?
#3) Houston already won two years ago, during the ‘Houston Strong’ phase. It’s not really nearly as interesting to root for them this time around. As for Washington (who I’m pulling for), they don’t really have a dedicated fan base. The team has been around only for a dozen years. As for the city itself – 70 percent of the population isn’t from around there… and so those who enjoy baseball probably root for other teams.

#4) And some of my crusty opinions, based upon my circumstantial / anecdotal evidence:

– Large number of strikeouts, and a disproportionate number of runs are coming from home runs means there is no sustained offense. I mean, look at the WPA for the hitters: BOTH TEAMS have negative WPA. No one is able to manufacture a run at all…
– …which is a total shame because it’s not like the pitching has been great. Cole was kinda a dud in game one, and Scherzer barely made it through five innings. Verlander struggled in game two; Strasburg was pretty good but only lasted six. Game three: Greinke didn’t complete five; Sanchez struggled. Game four: Corbin struggled, and Jose Urquidy – who saw that coming – has put in the best performance of the World Series (and still – he only pitched five innings!). Game five: Cole returned to form. And Joe Ross… wasn’t Scherzer.

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  Handsome Wes

I’m not sure what would qualify as a “dedicated fan base” – even before the WS run, you see Nats gear around here all the time. The team attendance is solid. While DC itself has a transient population, that is not unusual for a major urban area. And the team draws significantly from suburban MD and VA, which are less transient than the city itself. Although the political classes come and go, there is a core of local folks going about our lives in DC just like anywhere else.

The fans have been loud and energized at the games throughout the postseason, hanging in even when the games weren’t going the home team’s way. One thing that I will say about DC fans; we don’t tend to be assholes. The idea, prevalent in some places, that to be a “real” fan you need to “protect this house” by being obnoxious/threatening to fans of other teams has never made sense to me. And I’ve been playing/following baseball for decades.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  JCCfromDC

Honestly, I’ve found the “protect this house” mantra to be mostly lacking everywhere I’ve been (including Philly several times). The Nats have their fair share of assholes in the crowd, just like anywhere else. To me, they lean way more towards annoying than threatening.

DC is more transient than perhaps any other city, and they are also a new team. Most diehard fans don’t drop their allegiances to their old team, so what is left are new fans (which, granted, can still be dedicated) and casual fans. The transient issue will never go away; the new team issue lessens with each passing year.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago
Reply to  Handsome Wes

it’s always been like that re: kiddies being in bed for the big moments. I found out about Hideki Matsui’s big game 6 in the 2009 WS the next morning on Sportscenter, not while watching it live. I was 11 years old.

EasyenoughMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  Handsome Wes

The DC metro area, which makes up the Nationals fanbase, does not have a high proportion of transient population.

According to the 2017 ACS, 325,000 DC residents (of about 693k in 2017) were born in the metro area. Also 510,813 people born in DC still live in Maryland and 172,167 live in Virginia.

So over a million people who were born in the District of Columbia, still live in the metropolitan area. I also count 745,988 people who were born in either VA or MD that switched to the other but still live in the metro area. That’s about 1.5 million people labelled “transient” because they moved across a state border but that still live in the same metro.

I haven’t even counted the people in the MD and VA metro that still live in their own states, just the miscategorized “transients.”

This old “transient” trope is really about suburbs being on the other side of the district border, and someone’s quick read of census data. I don’t have time, but I should have done this by county. Next time.

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  Easyenough

Thanks for checking the data. Sadly, narratives are incredibly resistant to data.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Handsome Wes

Crazy to think that there have been relatively few pitching changes as that would make game times worse. The hitters are really dragging out ABs and that appears to be a worsening trend. Not long ago I though they were being told to stay in the box – that seems to have gone way out the window.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

what’s crazy dove tailing off of that- every single pitching change this World Series would be allowed next year….

speaking of that- the last reliever if none are used tonight this way- that faced fewer than 3 batters and not at the end of the inning…. Adam Ottavino in game 4 of the ALCS.

Bobby Ayala
6 years ago

Better question, Why Has Fangraphs Felt Boring? This site used to be a vanguard of statistics in baseball, now its a clickbait-driven depository for grumpy editorials.

If you find it boring to watch 1-2 potential HOF starters every night, and a historically good offense vs the discarded and reborn Nats, then you don’t like baseball. Or you’re just writing clickbait.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Ayala

I get what you’re getting at but think just the last 5 years what this year is going up against-
2014- 7 game series- Madbum. Couple of great games
2015- 5 game series. Royals beat Mets. Harvey intreague.
2016- Cubs/Indians. Don’t need to say much
2017- Astros/Dodgers. Don’t need to say much
2018- Red Sox/Dodgers. 5 game series with 18 inning game. Lots of action in only 5 games.

Now we have to see the finish. Could easily get up over 2014 and 15(and really 18). But it’s not like the 2016/2017 series which were all time greats.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

This is one of the best groups of SP in history. That seems to go under the radar in the year of the opener. It is very off script for the progressive narrative which is my explanation. MLB is very straightforward in marketing youth and none of those SP are young so that hurts as well… which is why it should be about talent and not forced narratives. The lack of appreciation of the games truly great players is an absolute travesty taking place right now. Next time you hear something about how great the next young player is – think about all the veterans having a better year getting dismissed.

We have the most lopsided matchup in history going to game 7.

Every road team has won the first 6 games.

I don’t know what anyone could ask for…. except to have their teams in it… which isn’t really a problem.

steveog
6 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Ayala

Well, they have lost several great writers. Cameron, Jeff, Eno, Sawchik, Cistulli and I’m probably forgetting one or two. I still enjoy the site, but it’s hard to be the same when they’ve lost those voices.

abgb123
6 years ago
Reply to  steveog

August, I think the exodus started with him.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  steveog

They certainly have embraced the dark side of the Internet which is clickbait and Twitter hatred. When you run out of content, controversy sells better. Fun point, they used to say sex sells, but the world switched to controversy at some point. To make things a bit worse, controversy is the best way to try to get followers which is unfortunately the metric that bloggers need the most.

A more nuanced point is just the course of the saber-metric revolution. We raced past the point of diminishing returns a long time ago. At some point, there are no mysteries left to uncover – yet the need to increase the flow of new ideas only increases. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about the big picture and I think everything past OPS and WHIP are pretty minor advancements. Much of what is happening today is not improving anything – its just progress for progress sake. There really are not a lot of people who write about baseball on this site – it is often some slanted, reactionary spin digging at tradition. That is part of the problem – you have writers that don’t appear to enjoy baseball as much as the idea of tearing down tradition. When the breakthroughs are over, I guess that is what it left.

steveog
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

I agree. And a lot of the articles have shifted from analysis to story telling (ie explaining what happened). I also think baseball has gotten less exciting storyline wise as teams are getting smarter and cheaper. Teams prioritize making money and hoarding prospects over winning and it’s lessening the product on the field. The Yankees didn’t sign any big free agents (unless you count Britton/Ottavino), the Red Sox are thinking about trading their best player, and the Dodgers wouldn’t trade prospects to get the help they needed, and one third of MLB is tanking…

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Ayala

Much of what Fangraphs was built upon is long gone. The people that built this place are mostly gone. This community is more concerned with changing the game which is more about criticizing its current and past forms and than its appreciation.

notdeananna
6 years ago

wait for Osuna to strike out Soto to end the Series for the real fun to begin

JLanDC
6 years ago

I enjoy the irony of an article that uses charts, graphs and statistics to learn why the World Series has felt boring. Is excitement quantifiable?!?

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

Duh, its swings in win %. Quantifying the quantifiable is what this community is built upon!

BillClinton
6 years ago

The World Series is boring because baseball is getting boring because only 6-10 teams have a meaningful shot at a WS and the odds of some iteration of LAD/Braves v Astros/Yankees WS each year are probably 1 in 4. Why should fans of other teams sit through 162 games for that?

Doug LampertMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  BillClinton

Since 2000, so the last 20 series counting this one. The LAD have been twice, the Braves zero times, the Astros twice, and the Yankees 3 times.

A random group of 4 teams would be expected to have 5.3 appearance, your allegedly dominant teams have 7 appearances out of the 40 available. As yet I’m not all that impressed by their current prolonged dynasties.

BillClinton
6 years ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert

This website had several articles on the rise of the superteam like 2 years ago so you’re using the wrong timeline, Doug.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  BillClinton

Agreed that MLB is not healthy. That just means you should take off the 162 games and watch the competitive games in the playoff!

Ryan21
6 years ago

It seems like the real takeaway from this article is that we all need to be watching more playoff hockey.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago
Reply to  Ryan21

i’m a hockey fan, but jeez that tournament is too long. it’s well over a month and so many off days, it’s hard to keep that level of enthusiasm up, at least for me, when my team is usually not involved.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago

it’s funny- as a Caps and Nats fan- the baseball chase has felt more intense than the hockey one.

Original Greaser Bob
6 years ago

Yup very boring series. Only good parts were Trump getting booed into oblivion and breast cancer awareness.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago

Have you watched the series? That sounds like you followed the series on Twitter. Not a fan of David and Golaith going to game 7?

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago

I don’t know, what is better between 7 games that aren’t that close and 4 nail biters? In the context of each game there have not been swings, but in the context of the series the Astros went from heavy favorites to heavy underdogs back to heavy favorites and we are one Nats win from this whole thing being pretty close to a toss up. I don’t know why excitement can apparently only be measured at the single-game level? The first inning of game 7 is pretty much guaranteed to be more exciting than any part of game 1.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I get that but compared to other 7 game series- this has been lacking.
1987- Twins over Cards- all home teams won
1991- Twins over Braves- Puckett Walkoff hr in game 6, Smoltz/Morris game 7
1997- Marlins over Indians- extra innings game 7
2001- D’Backs over Yankees- drama all over
2002- Angels over Giants- another great series
2011 – Cards over Rangers- just incredible last few games
2014- Giants over Royals- Madbum
2016- Cubs over Indians- don’t need to say much
2017- Astros over Dodgers- again don’t need to say much

some iconic series in that list. This series doesn’t have it…. Yet…. lets see what games 6 and hopefully 7 bring.

TKDCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

That info is both true and doesn’t address my point. The biggest underdog in over a decade won the first two games on the road, then coughed up their advantage bigly. At the end of the day, fans don’t care about winning games, they care about winning the World Series. Make a championship odds graph for this series and see how it compares to series in the past through five games.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I’d venture a guess that a series like 2017 where it was Dodgers/Astros/Astros/Dodgers/Astros(in an iconic game) would have been much more of a crazy graph than this one.

I’d be sure for instance in game 5 of that series when the Dodgers were up 4-0 and a 86% game winning expectancy, or 7-4 and a 81% game winning expectancy- those championship odds shifted rapidly in that game 5.

Ade
6 years ago

it’s boring cuz my team ain’t in it, wah

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  Ade

Exactly. TB and ATL are the unofficial teams of FanGraphs.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago

Will say this. Scherzer had a workout and he’s good to go for game 7. So this series could wind up featuring a situation similar to the bloody sock game with Schilling back in 2004.

Sleepy
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

If Scherzer takes the mound with ketchup on his neck…

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  Sleepy

isn’t that the truth….

ScottyBMember since 2017
6 years ago

Doesn’t the chart show that the Astros have hit better when behind?

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago

this series isn’t boring now.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

It wasn’t boring after game 1. Calling this series boring is pretty far removed from reality

bly
6 years ago

The World Series is boring because FG authors collectively decided the Astros were soooo much better that they had to win. When the Astros got back to 3-2 it felt like the ship of FG prediction had been righted and was going to come home to port, no worse for the wear.

But now we’re headed to game 7, and the series basically comes down to a wildcard game.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  bly

This is false. The entire world made that decision. When in doubt, go with Vegas odds. Vegas had this as the most lopsided matchup in recent history. You have to be a bit out there to not understand why it was perceived that way. As much as I want WAS to win – the detachment from reality of select WAS fans when they have an advantage in the series has been very off-putting to me.

doug frazierMember since 2018
6 years ago

Part of it is the home crowds are not into the game much, as the road teams keep winning by three or more runs.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  doug frazier

Like ARod said last night on the postgame show- the local home town bars are hating this series.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I’ll bet the liquor sales are solid!

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago

This post has (thankfully!) aged quite poorly!

Reflect
6 years ago

I actually have found this World Series to be quite exciting.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago

As I theorized, when ATL and TB were eliminated all the transient fans went away. Here we are complaining about a series in game 7. It has been a great series. Sure it may not have those win % swings, but that is how people look back at games that they didn’t watch. The actual games have been pretty compelling and the story lines are legitimately good.

ajb3313
6 years ago

Why does this article feel so boring?