Will Starlin Castro Have a Chance to Continue His Unlikely Pursuit of History?
This may be unwise to admit in this setting, but I often forget that Starlin Castro still plays baseball in the major leagues. There are a couple of reasons for this. One is that his most recent club, the Miami Marlins, is not a team one is likely to seek out when scrolling through MLB.TV options on their favorite team’s off day. The other is that the team he broke into the majors with, the Chicago Cubs, were another woeful franchise for most of his time there. Castro joined the Cubs in 2010, and virtually all of the most recognizable actors from those early-decade Cubs teams have since left the game. The careers of Aramis Ramirez, Carlos Pena, Darwin Barney, Geovany Soto and many others are long gone. It has been so long since I have watched any of them, and it is so rare that I watch Castro, so my subconscious brain often assumes he’s gone too.
Castro, of course, is very much an active player, and the ironic twist here is that he is quietly inching toward a coveted milestone that could immortalize him next to some of the greatest players in history. In 2019, his age-29 season, Castro collected 172 hits, the third-highest single-season total he’s ever put together. That gives him a career hit total of 1,617, making him one of just 35 players to ever reach 1,600 hits before turning 30. That’s nearly as exclusive a group as the famous 3,000-hit club, which includes just 32 players. Among all active players, Castro is 27th in career hits. He’s younger than every player ahead of him.
Now, Castro isn’t necessarily the most likely active player to reach 3,000 hits — more on that later — but it at least seems possible, and I’m not the first to point this out. Late in the 2018 season, Matt Provenzano wrote about his improbable chase of the milestone over at Beyond The Box Score, and pertinently, a couple of reasons why we probably shouldn’t root for him to actually reach it. Castro was alleged to have sexually assaulted a woman in 2012, though no charges were ever filed, and his attorneys denied the accusations. Little has been mentioned about the incident in the years since, but it could be a topic of conversation if serious thought is given to Castro’s Hall of Fame case, which, if he reaches 3,000 hits, would likely be one of the most hotly contested ones in history.
How much of a chance does he actually have in reaching 3,000 hits? After doing some projections based on Castro’s historical comps, Provenzano estimated in the above article that he might have something like a 20-25% chance of reaching that number. With an extra year of data since that piece ran providing his largest hit total since 2012, perhaps that improves a bit. Here’s the aforementioned list of 35 players with 1,600 hits before turning 30, along with whether they reached 3,000 hits and whether they made the Hall of Fame:
| Player | Pre-30 hit total | 3,000 hits? | HoF? |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ty Cobb | 2,136 | Yes | Yes |
| Mel Ott | 1,939 | No | Yes |
| Rogers Hornsby | 1,916 | No | Yes |
| Alex Rodriguez | 1,901 | Yes | ? |
| Hank Aaron | 1,898 | Yes | Yes |
| Vada Pinson | 1,881 | No | No |
| Robin Yount | 1,856 | Yes | Yes |
| Jimmie Foxx | 1,852 | No | Yes |
| Joe Medwick | 1,838 | No | Yes |
| Al Kaline | 1,837 | Yes | Yes |
| Miguel Cabrera | 1,802 | ? | ? |
| Edgar Renteria | 1,770 | No | No |
| Willie Keeler | 1,769 | No | Yes |
| Ken Griffey | 1,742 | No | Yes |
| George Davis | 1,728 | No | Yes |
| Tris Speaker | 1,722 | Yes | Yes |
| Freddie Lindstrom | 1,719 | No | Yes |
| Albert Pujols | 1,717 | Yes | ? |
| Sam Crawford | 1,716 | No | Yes |
| Arky Vaughan | 1,709 | No | Yes |
| Mickey Mantle | 1,700 | No | Yes |
| Frank Robinson | 1,673 | No | Yes |
| Richie Ashburn | 1,666 | No | Yes |
| Roberto Alomar | 1,659 | No | Yes |
| Lloyd Waner | 1,651 | No | Yes |
| Sherry Magee | 1,647 | No | No |
| Roberto Clemente | 1,633 | Yes | Yes |
| Stan Musial | 1,624 | Yes | Yes |
| Starlin Castro | 1,617 | ? | ? |
| Goose Goslin | 1,616 | No | Yes |
| Carl Crawford | 1,609 | No | ? |
| Stuffy McInnis | 1,607 | No | No |
| Hugh Duffy | 1,607 | No | Yes |
| Orlando Cepeda | 1,606 | No | Yes |
| Joe Kelley | 1,600 | No | Yes |
This table is bad news for Castro. Getting to 1,600 hits before age 30 is actually more predictive of a player reaching the Hall of Fame than it is of them reaching 3,000 hits. Of the 35 players listed here, 26 are in the Hall of Fame, while two more are future locks (Pujols and Cabrera) and a third would be a lock if not for PED issues (Rodriguez). Meanwhile, just nine of the 35 actually succeeded in reaching 3,000 hits.
It turns out that reaching 3,000 hits has less to do with whatever start a player has in their 20s and more to do with how consistent they are in their 30s, and for how long. That makes intuitive sense with counting stat milestones as lofty as 3,000 hits, but the numbers behind it are still eye-opening. The average hit totals of the 3,000 hit club members in their 20s is 1,483 — 134 hits fewer than Castro has. The average hit totals of those players in their 30s, however, is 1,590.
This is partially due to the fact that some of these players only played seven or eight years in their 20s (or, in Ichiro’s case, three), but most played the entire decade of their 30s. Still though, one would typically expect a player’s best years to come in his 20s. While the quantity of active years in their 20s might not match those in their 30s, the quality of those 20s should still win out. But in this case, it is actually much easier to overcome a slow start in one’s 20s and still reach 3,000 hits than it is to get away with a weaker 30s. Just four of the 32 3,000-hit club members compiled fewer than 1,300 hits in their 30s, while nine had fewer than 1,300 hits in their 20s. Further, players with 3,000 hits played an average of just over two years after hitting 40. A milestone like this isn’t just aided by playing a long time — it is necessitated by it, to a degree that almost nullifies any speculation about what a player is “on pace for” during their careers.
Any hypothetical milestone chase by Castro, then, will obviously depend on his ability to not only stick around in the majors for a long time, but to continue receiving significant playing time. And that last part is currently in some jeopardy. In October, Miami officially declined to pick up his $16 million club option for 2020, making Castro a free agent for the first time in his 10-year career. Even though the Marlins have wound up being surprisingly inclined to hand money to low-risk players this offseason, Castro’s price tag was deemed too high, and that thrusts him into a somewhat crowded second base market.
The list of available players at the keystone position is a long one, and it got even longer after the non-tender deadline. Cesar Hernandez, Jonathan Schoop, and Brian Dozier could all command similar deals to Castro, while others like Scooter Gennett, Eric Sogard, Brock Holt, and Tim Beckham would all be interesting plays as well.
Castro has tons of competition for a job, and given his recent performances, it may be difficult for him to stand out. Once considered one of the more promising young hitters in the game, Castro’s five most recent seasons have paled in comparison to his first five. By 24, he had already turned in a pair of 3-win seasons and another 2.7-WAR year, thanks to an above-average bat and a strong glove at shortstop. Then, after six years in Chicago, he was traded to the Yankees for Adam Warren. He moved over to second base in New York, where he struggled defensively but remained an average hitter at the plate, compiling a 101 wRC+ and 3.2 WAR in two seasons. He was traded again after that, this time for a much bigger name — Giancarlo Stanton, who was being shipped over from Miami for Castro and two prospects.
Castro more or less cemented the kind of player that he is while in Miami: Someone who can be an average-to-slightly-above hitter if his BABIP luck plays in his favor, and a slightly-below-average hitter when it doesn’t. He hit .270/.300/.436 for a 91 wRC+ and 1.3 WAR in 2019, a year after hitting .278/.329/.400 for a 101 wRC+ and 2.3 WAR. Players with Castro’s offensive profile will always rely somewhat on batted ball fortune, and sure enough, his BABIP fell from .330 in 2018 to .293 in 2019.
But that wasn’t the only difference. His walk rate also dropped from 7.4% to 4.1%, and his career 5.0 BB% tells us the former was likely the outlier. Meanwhile, his power improved a bit as he turned in career-highs in homers (22) and ISO (.165). Your mileage could vary as to how much stock to place in those categories in 2019 — on one hand, the juiced ball benefited hitters like Castro as much as anyone, but on the other, setting career power highs in Marlins Park is no easy accomplishment regardless of ball environment.
Castro’s results have been more or less consistent over the past few years, but the process through which he has achieved them has changed slightly. His distribution of line drives, grounders, and flies remains in line with his career averages, but over the past couple of seasons, we’ve seen an increased emphasis on pulling the ball, which may be related to him suddenly experiencing an uptick in hard contact.
| Time period | LD% | GB% | FB% | Pull% | Cent% | Oppo% | Soft% | Med% | Hard% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Career | 19.9 | 49.6 | 30.4 | 38.2 | 33.9 | 22.1 | 18.3 | 51.5 | 30.2 |
| 2018 | 20.2 | 50.9 | 28.8 | 40.2 | 38.7 | 21.1 | 15.8 | 46.9 | 37.3 |
| 2019 | 19.1 | 47.9 | 33.0 | 44.0 | 33.9 | 22.1 | 15.9 | 42.1 | 41.9 |
Judging from the pull rate and his launch angle — a career-high 10.9 degrees in 2019 — it seems that adding power was a purposeful choice by Castro this season. That, combined with improved second base defense in his two years in Miami, could raise teams’ interest in the 29-year-old.
The question is whether his new team sees him as a starter or a platoon/bench player. Castro has always been an everyday player, playing 162 games for a second time in his career last year, and never suiting up for fewer than 112 in a season. That durability and track record should assist in his free agent case, but there is some evidence to suggest he could used more efficiently. He fell victim to some grim lefty-righty splits in 2019, compiling a 129 wRC+ against left-handers and just a 78 wRC+ against righties. He’s heavily favored southpaws throughout his career, which means a contending team may benefit from combining him with a left-handed-swinging second baseman — such as, say, Brandon Lowe in Tampa Bay.
Signing with a contender is reportedly a goal of Castro’s, but it wouldn’t guarantee that he plays every day, the way he has for the first 10 seasons of his career. If he prioritized an everyday job, he could also sign somewhere like Detroit, where he’d be all but guaranteed 162 starts a year if he wants them, but he would likely toil in obscurity until the contract runs out again, just like he has for the last two seasons. Such a situation would give him the freedom to continue racking up hits with abandon, and perhaps that would be enough to convince teams on a year-to-year basis that he is worth dedicating serious playing time to.
Where he ends up going could be telling of not only how the industry sees players like Castro, but also of how much importance he places in his own unlikely milestone chase. Signing with a contender to take a part-time role would likely eliminate whatever chance he has at reaching 3,000 hits, but in the right platoon/coaching situation, it could potentially make him a better player, too. Ironically, Castro’s best chance at achieving the most career longevity possible might involve him converting to a part-time role. Less than 55% of the way to that lofty milestone, it’s still far too early for the rest of us to begin taking this chase seriously. But Castro very well might. And if he does, then every decision from this point forward counts.
Tony is a contributor for FanGraphs. He began writing for Red Reporter in 2016, and has also covered prep sports for the Times West Virginian and college sports for Ohio University's The Post. He can be found on Twitter at @_TonyWolfe_.
Wherever he goes, I hope that’s where Didi also lands #BFFs
damn carl crawford was a BEAST
He only managed 322 hits after turning 30, and failed to even reach 2,000 hits. His fall is shocking.
Back-to-back seasons of 5.9/7.7 WAR at 28/29, and then, the cliff.
All those years on the Tropicana fake turf took a toll. (See also Desmond Jennings)
I noticed that too. Edgar Renterria through me off the most. Shame they didn’t age well enough for their hot starts!
Seems like a lot of early debuting middle infielders wear out early in their 30’s (Mazeroski was another).
Now I’m wondering how Elvis Andrus will fare. A year and a half older than Castro, with over 1,700 career hits. Probably follows the Renteria path, but probably has a slightly better shot at 3,000 hits than Castro.
Hanley Ramirez is another one. Seemed like a future HOFer through age 25.
Nomar Garciaparra, as well.
That is until he came down to Boston. It is hard to think of anyone else whose game disintegrated more quickly other than Crawford. Edgar Renteria came close. His 2005 season in Boston was simply awful, especially on defense. At least Renteria stayed around the game several more years and had a few decent seasons but Crawford went from the penthouse to the outhouse in an instant, and never came out.
If we’re talking “fell off a cliff in Boston,” Hanley’s right up there.
It was injury-assisted, but I can’t help but think of Allen Craig.
There’s also Chris Davis as a more recent example. He was already declining, but going from 91 to 44 wRC+ in one season (and as a starting player both years) is not easy to do.
Pretty sure we can get rid of the question mark on hof for him
I’m not even sure the Tigers would let him play every day with Candelario, Lugo, and Goodrum locking down 2nd and 3rd base (and with Paredes on the way). There are some teams that have openings at either 3rd or 2nd base: Cleveland (2nd base), Nationals (either 2nd or 3rd base, due to Kieboom), Orioles (2nd, maybe 3rd base), Red Sox (2nd), Brewers (3rd). The third base slot for the Nationals might be filled by either Rendon or Donaldson, which would bump Kieboom to 2nd. But if Cleveland or the Red Sox miss out on Cesar Hernandez and are scared off by Dozier’s health or Asdrubal Cabrera’s age, then Castro could sign with either of them for cheap and get to play for a contender and rack up hits. If he doesn’t make it to one of those two and doesn’t want to play every day for the Orioles, he’s probably a utility guy.
Now that you mention it, Castro seems like a Cleveland-type move.
Cleveland makes sense even if it’s a short term deal which probably happens because they expect Nolan Jones to be on the club by 2021 which moves Ramirez to 2B (or maybe SS if they trade Lindor)
I could see him having a Howie Kendrick-esque 30s.
Good luck. It looks like Markakis’ journey finally reached the end. Time to start cheering for StarLo.
And interestingly enough, he may actually be a decent fit for a contender that doesn’t seem to want to spend a lot – reunite with the Cubs!
Markakis is stuck on 499 doubles…
A different ex-Oriole, BJ Surhoff, ended his career having reached base 2999 times. I wonder if he knew when he called it quits.
Why has it reached an end? He’s going to be starting in the mlb this year.
Castro currently has a career -1.3 Wins Above Average on Baseball Reference. He needs 1,098 more hits (plus continued average to below-average WAA) to match Bill Buckner for most career hits for a player with negative career WAA (2,715).
If, by some strange confluence of events which, while unlikely, isn’t really that strange at all, Castro would somehow reach 3000 hits I will be very anxious to see what Jay Jaffe would have to say about his credentials. Castro would put the axiom that this achievement is an automatic ticket to induction into the Hall of Fame to a serious test.
Jeez, right there with Stan the Man. Who knew?
The 3000 hit club was almost a non-entity. It wasn’t really considered a special or important thing until the 40’s, and at that point a truly mediocre player could have joined it and removed its “specialness” before it began. Doc Cramer was a total non-entity of a baseball player, who had only two skills of any value – staying reasonably healthy for a long time, and a truly impressive ability to avoid strikeouts. But he was a lousy defender, wasn’t particularly special on the basepaths, had no power, didn’t walk, and didn’t have any particularly impressive BABIP skills. In a 20 year career, he totaled 9 fWAR. But because he played forever and avoided strikeouts, he absolutely would have made the 3,000 hit club if he hadn’t been buried behind Bing Miller on Connie Mack’s A’s in the early 30’s, preventing him from getting a starting gig until he was 27. He finished up less than 300 hits away.
Doc Cramer was a poor defensive outfielder who never walked, and had only 99 COMBINED career home runs and stolen bases in ten thousand plate appearances. Literally his only skill was batting average, and he only hit higher than .311 twice. Those were the only two seasons he cleared 2 fWAR. Over his final 13 seasons he was worth a combined 3.2 fWAR. But he retired with 2,705 hits.
Doc Cramer is the 250th ranked centerfielder by JAWS, one spot behind Byron Buxton and one spot ahead of Peter Bourjos. I hereby rename the “Hall of Serial Compilers” to the “Doc Cramer Hall of Serial Compilers”.
His unimpressiveness is somehow impressive.
geez, what’d doc cramer do to you
Seems like a bad idea to exclude people from the hall on an unsubstantiated allegation.
Bagwell got in eventually despite whispers of PED use. Castro seems far more likely to miss the HOF due to his poor on-base rates.
If a player is a coin toss/cusp HOF based on on field performance, intangibles come into the discussion. I’d be More inclined to put Castro in the HOF if he was known for his charity work than an assault allegation.
“Little has been mentioned about the incident in the years since, but it could be a topic of conversation if serious thought is given to Castro’s Hall of Fame case, which, if he reaches 3,000 hits, would likely be one of the most hotly contested ones in history.”
Oh my god. I mean, you’re right, people probably will argue for him if he gets to/near 3,000. But the idea that Starlin Castro has a HoF case is insane.
20-25% for 3,000 is much too high IMO. Castro is going to go down the same path as Juan Pierre where the day he is not able to play a premium defensive position well he has zero value to a MLB team. Pierre didn’t get started as young but he had 1,440 hits through his age 29 season (he turned 30 in August of that year) and got is 2,000th hit in his age 33 season. However, his defensive numbers had been slipping for a few years even though he had been moved from CF to LF a couple years earlier. His last 2 seasons he was a part-time player and out of baseball after his age 35 season with 2,217 hits
You would think, considering his company above, that Starlin would be thought of more highly than he is at this point.
“Here’s the aforementioned list of 35 players with 1,600 hits before turning 30, along with whether they reached 3,000 hits and whether they made the Hall of Fame:”
I hate when people set some minimum and use that upward for analysis. The average player in that list had 1742 hits before age 30, to Castro’s 1617. It’s like equating Reggie Sanders and Willie Mays because they are both in the 300-300 club.
From the list in the write-up, 86.7% of the guys who aren’t “?” for HoF at this point were elected.
Just to add to that– seems like Baseball-Ref and Fangraphs have some confusion as to Frankie Frisch’s year of birth; 1899 and 1898 respectively. Using BB-Ref, the list in this write-up is correct; Frisch is below 1600… but Fangraph’s DoB value give him one more year and has him at 1675. So that is weird as I’d think the data came from here. Including him as well, bumps the HoF% up to 87.1%, so largely irrelevant.
Back to it- using +/- 5% of Castro’s hits instead, n=37; Joe Jackson isn’t a HoFer, but lets count him as one. And lets call Jeter and Adrian Beltre locks as well, and just count them in. Now we’re looking at 73%. Still puts Castro’s hits through age 29 in good company, while being more representative of him.
Griffey not reaching 3,000 hits doesn’t surprise me. As he got older and a little slower and turned to power instead of average, in which he was still extremely valuable.