Would the Orioles Be Better with Rafael Palmeiro?

Chris Davis is having a no good, terrible, very bad season. He’s hitting .163/.245/.310, good for just a 49 wRC+, and overall has contributed 25 weighted runs below average. His once-solid defense at first base seems to have deteriorated, as well: his -3.6 UZR/150 this year at that position represents the lowest figure he’s recorded since playing there in limited fashion for the Orioles back in 2012. Overall, he’s posted -2.2 WAR, and if that sounds like it’s close to historically bad, that’s because it is. And while Davis is no longer in danger of authoring the worst season ever, there’s no disputing that, as a player, his 2018 campaign leaves much to be desired.

Davis’s futility led a reader to pose an interesting question in Dan Szymborski’s chat this week: would the Orioles be better off using Rafael Palmeiro at first base in 2018 than Davis? Because this seemed like a question worth answering, I enlisted Dan’s help (in exchange for crafting some documents so he could buy the Orioles) in doing just that.

Rafael Palmeiro, in case you were wondering, is now approaching his 54th birthday. Back in his heyday, he was one of the more underrated superstars of the game. Over more than 2,800 games spread across 20 major-league seasons — mostly at first base and DH — he hit .288/.371/.515 (130 wRC+) and accrued 70 fWAR, including 10 (!!) seasons above 4 WAR. His counting stats, too, are impressive: 3,020 hits, 569 home runs, and even 97 stolen bases (including 22 in 1993). Perhaps most incredible of all, Palmeiro struck out 1,348 times in his career and walked 1,353 times , posting identical 11.2% rates.

Palmeiro was, in many ways, a complete hitter. He would probably be a deserving member of the Hall of Fame, too, had he not told Congress under oath that he’d never used performance enhancing drugs, then failed a steroid test just six weeks later. Congress even considered perjury charges against Palmeiro before concluding there was insufficient evidence to charge him in a report which, notably, called Palmeiro’s testimony “compelling” and included that he had passed a polygraph test.

But we’re not talking about prime Palmeiro. We’re talking about 2018 Palmeiro. While at first that might sound bizarre, Palmeiro is currently playing professional baseball. He and his son are teammates on the Cleburne Railroaders, a team in the independent American Association. And wouldn’t you know it, Palmeiro is raking. Though a full 26 years older than the league’s average player, Palmeiro is hitting .301/.424/.495. (His son Patrick is hitting .239 with a .654 OPS.) He has 20 walks to 25 strikeouts, showing he still has some plate discipline skills, and he’s been getting better as the season wears on, raising his OPS from .801 to .919 just since June 27.

Small sample warnings abound here, obviously — Palmeiro has played in just 31 team games (Patrick has played in 80) — but what he’s doing at age 53 is still rather impressive, even against indy-league competition. After all, depending on whom you ask, the American Association is roughly equivalent to either Double-A or High-A. It’s not an apples-to-apples comparison, but Palmeiro’s .919 OPS would be second in the Carolina League. Of course, were Palmeiro doing this in the Carolina League at 53, he’d probably be a bigger story.

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In any case, back to our hypothetical scenario. Let’s assume the Orioles decided to purchase Palmeiro’s contract, stick him at designated hitter (53-year-olds shouldn’t field), move Mark Trumbo to first base, and bench Davis completely. According to Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projection system, Palmeiro would hit .186/.248/.271 against major-league pitchers (albeit in 49 at-bats). That’s not great, obviously. It’s also almost identical to Davis’s slash, however — and Palmeiro’s projection is actually for a higher batting average and on-base percentage than Davis has posted this year. In other words, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Palmeiro could outhit what Davis has done so far.

However! That projection doesn’t include Palmeiro’s 2018 stint with Cleburne, where he’s been a better hitter than most of the league despite being twice the age of the pitchers he’s facing. Integrating his most recent numbers, it’s theoretically possible that Palmeiro could have more short-term upside than Davis. Last year, Clay Davenport calculated the American Association as among the highest of the independent leagues, with a rating of .644 (each run in AA is worth .644 in MLB). We don’t have any park factors for the 2018 American Association, so we can’t do a good Major League Equivalency calculation, but it’s not hard to think that two-thirds of Palmeiro’s AA batting line would be better than Davis’ 2018 performance. After all…

ZiPS projects Davis to be an exactly replacement-level player the rest of the way (with an 87 wRC+), but it’s hard not to take the under on that given his season to date. If anything, Davis may have actually gotten worse at the plate as the season has gone along. Although Davis is hitting .205/.265/.364 in August, his best slash line by month so far (!), it’s on the back of a .350 BABIP, and his nightmarish August strikeout (46.9%) and walk (6.1%) numbers are his worst so far this year.

So there you are: it is actually possible that a 53-year-old Rafael Palmeiro would post a better batting line the rest of the way in 2018 than Chris Davis has posted so far. It’s also possible that he would be better than Davis the rest of the way, too. And if Baltimore were to do this crazy thing (please do it, Orioles!), it may reset Palmeiro’s Hall of Fame eligibility, giving him another shot at induction in 2023.

It’s also not entirely unprecedented: the ageless Julio Franco lasted a hundred plate appearances at 49 years old, and Jamie Moyer pitched until he was 49. Palmeiro isn’t that much older. And in a season where the Orioles are already challenging records for being the worst baseball team ever, it’s hard to believe Palmeiro would make them any more awful than they already are. And unlike Davis, Palmeiro doesn’t gave four years left on the seven-year, $161 million megadeal he signed before the 2016 season.

When Davis completes that deal, Rafael Palmeiro will be 58 years old.





Sheryl Ring is a litigation attorney and General Counsel at Open Communities, a non-profit legal aid agency in the Chicago suburbs. You can reach her on twitter at @Ring_Sheryl. The opinions expressed here are solely the author's. This post is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended as legal advice.

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CamdenWarehouseMember since 2018
8 years ago

This is awesome. Thanks for turning my question into this piece, Sheryl!

Spitball McPhee
8 years ago

Plus it would be the ultimate insult to that meat head waste of million Davis.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
8 years ago

This has to happen. If for no other reason than that sales of giant novelty syringes have really fallen off since Barry Bonds was blackballed from the league.

AnonMember since 2020
8 years ago

Fun trivia: who is the only player in the last 40 years to have played in the majors AFTER receiving a HOF vote?

Answer: Jose Rijo who retired after 1995, received a vote in the 2001 HOF ballot, unretired and played 2 more years with the REds in 2001-2 and then re-retired. He appeared again on the 2008 ballot and did not receive a vote.

Psychic... Powerless...
8 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Please enlighten us

Psychic... Powerless...
8 years ago

Please ignore the above comment, which I posted before Anon supplied the answer.

AnonMember since 2020
8 years ago

Not your fault – I edited my post after you made yours

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I’m not sure if it’s who you are thinking about, but Minnie Minoso fits the bill. He’s the first one that came to mind for me, and I checked to make sure. Received some votes in 1969 and then came back and played in 1980 for 2 at bats. So just under 40 years.

AnonMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Oops, I remembered his 1976 comeback but forgot about Minoso’s 1980 comeback.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
8 years ago
Reply to  Anon

You could argue that because the vote was more than 40 years ago, this doesn’t count. Face saved.

ackbar7Member since 2020
8 years ago

I don’t understand why teams like this year’s Orioles (or Marlins or any team out of it at this point) don’t do these kinds of things more often. It works as a publicity stunt to draw in more fans. And, more baseball related, it would be a way to, potentially, find some production from nontraditional sources. It may not work, but the Orioles have nothing to loose at this point.

Planet DustMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  ackbar7

In general, I don’t understand why the super-rich don’t do more hilarious things.

ackbar7Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Planet Dust

I do agree with this statement, but baseball does go beyond just that. Baseball is entertainment, it is the only reason it generates any money at all. Giving a former HoF caliber player who has apparently gotten themselves in game shape a spot on the roster would be entertaining and would certainly generate more interest in the O’s than anything they have done so far this season. When 50 games out of the race teams should focus more on the entertainment part of baseball than the attempting to win part. Winning gets this team nowhere now.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
8 years ago
Reply to  ackbar7

Baseball also has a bit of a self-importance problem, and trotting out a 53 year old man just for grins would cause an awful lot of pearl clutchers to complain about the damage BAL was doing to the sanctity of the game.

ackbar7Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Sure, but the Orioles and Chris Davis have already damaged the sanctity of the game by their terrible performance this year. Their attempts to field a winning team failed spectacularly, if Palmeiro could possibly be better that is the real embarrassment.

brood550
8 years ago
Reply to  ackbar7

I don’t know. Seeing the Mets call-up Tebow to watch him flail away and strikeout 40%+ or actually develop players who’s future Mets careers involve extensive dl stints.

Tough call.

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  brood550

Joey Gallo would love a K rate of just 40%. (Kidding…mostly)

ackbar7Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  brood550

The Mets are giving Jose Bautista regular ABs in the OF. They aren’t developing future contributors.

NATS FanMember since 2018
8 years ago
Reply to  ackbar7

They don’t think they have any kids worth playing, I would imagine. Plus it’s hard to fault a team with that starting pitching from thinking itself closer to contention than it is

JediHoyer
8 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

The Mets are giving significant AB’s to Jose Reyes, Jose Bautista, Todd Frazier and Austin Jackson. A quartet who were worth 17.1 fwar in 2011.

frangipard
8 years ago
Reply to  ackbar7

Because the league has the ability to void any contracts that they want to. The White Sox wanted to bring Minnie Minoso back for one more game in ~1990, and the AL killed it.

I don’t know that they’d do the same for Palmierio, but it’s at least one potential barrier to publicity stunt signings.

isntthisrichMember since 2018
8 years ago

This is great. You should turn it into a regular weekly feature. Next week, “Would the Orioles be better with Randy Milligan?” Future weeks could look at Eddie Murray and Boog Powell.

Planet DustMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  isntthisrich

I’m 99% sure that Jim Palmer thinks the Orioles would be better with him pitching.

EonADSMember since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  Planet Dust

I’m 99% sure he’d be right, at this point.

CamdenWarehouseMember since 2018
8 years ago
Reply to  isntthisrich

Would Mike Mussina be the ace of the pitching staff?

Jason BMember since 2017
8 years ago

Better Bundy to head the rotation: Dylan, Al, or Ted?

Jason BMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

ETA: Al did have a clutch homer for the New Market Mallers to win them the league…

RoyalsFan#14321
8 years ago
Reply to  isntthisrich

Seconded. (13ded at this point, actually)

NATS FanMember since 2018
8 years ago
Reply to  isntthisrich

I refuse to read articles like this on anyone over the age of 60!

MikeSMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

No interest in an 83 year old Brooks Robinson picking up some PA now that Machado has been traded?

feslenraster
8 years ago

Why? Other than putting a few fannies in the seats…

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  feslenraster

Reset his HOF clock and increase the chances of another Oriole Hall of Famer for them to celebrate.

Doug LampertMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  feslenraster

From the team’s PoV, putting fannies into seats is the main purpose of the entire exercise. Winning games is desirable as it puts fannies in the seats. This wouldn’t hurt their chances of winning, and would put fannies in seats.

The only big downside is that your other players might consider it a deliberate insult, which probably won’t help in the long run.

Yehoshua Friedman
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert

In the long run we’ll all go join Bill Veeck in the World of Truth.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago

Yeah, but Julio Franco put up 0.5 fWAR in 265 PAs at age 47. Find me a hitter* who did THAT**. Not even Pete Rose, who played forever and was reasonably decent until the very end, stayed productive as long as Franco did.

*I know there are pitchers who have succeeded well into their forties.
**Had Barry Bonds managed to evade PED detection forever, he could probably play until he was 80. But without it, he would never get off the DL. Hey, as long as we’re asking about this, what kind of PED testing does this independent league have?

Planet DustMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Orioles signing Rafael Palmeiro sort of as a joke and then having him get suspended for PEDs would be so much fun.

dl80Member since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Franco was mediocre at age 48 and horrible at age 49. I would love for aging curves to go that far out, since he would be the only representative.

“Man, these hitters really fall off a cliff right before eligibility for the AARP.”

forum199Member since 2017
8 years ago

He could angrily point his finger at Angel Hernandez after a grossly misjudged strike call and we’d all laugh.

CheeseballMember since 2016
8 years ago

Great, great article.

Shirtless Bartolo Colon
8 years ago

The kid can still swing the bat. The O’s should give him a shot.

WoundedSprinterMember since 2018
8 years ago

Bill Veecks would have done this in an instant. (See comments on Minnie Minoso. above.)
I’m all for it, with a bobble-head day for the fans.
What have the Oriolès got left to lose?

Knoblaublah
8 years ago

No discussion about Rafael Palmeiro should include the concept of taking or giving a shot.

wystan49Member since 2018
8 years ago

Palmeiro’s breakout came with the ’88 Cubs. They traded him (and Jamie Moyer) to the Rangers because he was sort of blocked at 1B by Mark Grace. Palmeiro had 8 HR in ’88. December 5, 1988: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Luis Benitez (minors), Pablo Delgado (minors), Paul Kilgus, Curt Wilkerson and Steve Wilson to the Chicago Cubs for Drew Hall, Jamie Moyer and Rafael Palmeiro.

herbsmith
8 years ago
Reply to  wystan49

Well, most people in Chicago know the real reason that Palmeiro was traded in ’88.

Hank G.Member since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  herbsmith

Are you saying that there was a place in Chicago where Palmeiro was not blocked?

JohnHavok
8 years ago

I’d rather Harold Reynolds return so he could stop spreading stupidity from the broadcast booth.

carterMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  JohnHavok

John Kruk too.

pedeysRSox
8 years ago

I’d be game to see him play in AA or AAA. Maybe even the big leagues

Brandon WarneMember since 2020
8 years ago

He was just put on the DL there today 🙁

John Autin
8 years ago

Gee, I wonder what Chris Davis would hit in an independent league? Many folks would like to find out about THAT — for a variety of reasons.

I know most of this was meant as humor, but you can’t take seriously any MLEs for Palmeiro’s 31 games this year. Of that league’s top 100 by IP, only 5 have any MLB experience, with an average of 57 innings. And since he’s obviously picking his spots for when to play, he could easily duck the best pitchers, tough lefties, etc.

Palmeiro was always a smart, disciplined hitter, just the kind to exploit these fringe guys, even if his bat had slowed as much as you’d think for a 53-year-old 13 years out of the majors.

Chili Davis Eyes
8 years ago

“Why not give him another shot?” – Miguel Tejada

Powder Blues
8 years ago

Soooo… what’s the AA’s steroid policy?

Llewdor
8 years ago

The Orioles should sign Palmiero AND Jamie Moyer. Moyer can probably still locate change-ups.

Kevbot034
8 years ago

This is my new favorite fangraph article lol. Thanks Shery!