Yankees Acquire Edwin, Continue to Stockpile Power

Edwin Encarnacion is 36 years old now, but age hasn’t stopped him from mashing baseballs. Among qualified American League hitters, he ranks 12th in wRC+ (139), leads the league in home runs (21), and is fourth in isolated power (.290). He’s accrued 1.7 WAR, which is pretty good at this point of the season, especially given his subpar defense. Of course, nobody is employing Encarnacion for his glove.

When Seattle acquired Encarnacion this past offseason, everybody knew he’d be traded sooner rather than later. The Mariners are in the midst of a rebuild and are reportedly “trying to trade everyone” before the July 31 deadline. Encarnacion, with his age and contract, was an obvious candidate to be moved.

It only took until the middle of June for the Mariners to find a suitor. The Yankees now employ Edwin Encarnacion.

Yankees Get:

  • 1B/3B/DH Edwin Encarnacion (though it’s likely he’ll primarily be a DH)

Mariners Get:

Let’s touch on the Mariners’ return first before talking about the big parrot in the room. Juan Then was actually a Mariners farmhand two years ago. The Yankees acquired Then (and minor league hurler JP Sears) during the 2017-18 offseason in exchange for Nick Rumbelow.

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Then is only 19 years old and he’s still in rookie ball. Prior to this season, Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel ranked Then as the No. 31 prospect in New York’s system, noting that he is “advanced for his age” but has “middling stuff and physical projection.” It’s worth noting that Then seems to have developed a better fastball in the Yankees system. But again, it’s awfully hard to project a 19-year-old who hasn’t reached full-season ball. We know he’s a young arm of some promise, but the delta in his potential outcomes is very wide.

As an interesting side note, reports suggest that the Mariners chose to deal Encarnacion to the Yankees because New York was willing to absorb more money than other interested clubs. By prioritizing salary flexibility, Seattle’s move is somewhat reminiscent of how the Marlins handled the Giancarlo Stanton trade, in which the Yankees gave up significantly less player value to bring in another slugger because they were able to take on big money. It’s not ideal for rebuilding teams to prioritize monetary value over player return on transactions, but it is what it is. Money is a big part of how organizations operate, and sometimes you’re going to see deals like that.

On the Yankees’ side, the thinking is pretty obvious: Encarnacion’s bat makes a powerful lineup even more powerful. It’s a straightforward “Good Team Gets Better” deal where New York gets an impact hitter in exchange for a volatile pitching prospect. The organization is also rich in young right-handed prospects, for what it’s worth. The Yankee brass won’t lose much sleep over trading away Juan Then.

With Aaron Judge and Stanton nearing their return, New York’s lineup is going to be formidable very soon:

C – Gary Sanchez

1B – Luke Voit

2B – Gleyber Torres

3B – DJ LeMahieu

SS – Didi Gregorius

LF – Stanton

CF – Aaron Hicks

RF – Judge

DH – Encarnacion

You probably don’t need me to tell you that this is a loaded lineup. It doesn’t even include Clint Frazier, who has posted 119 wRC+ and .230 ISO this season. Nor does it include Giovanny Urshela, who stepped into Miguel Andujar’s spot at third base and put up a 115 wRC+ (though it’s worth noting that his production has slipped quite a bit over the past month).

One could argue that the Yankees didn’t really need another power bat. At the moment, the Yankees biggest problem is pitching. Their starting pitchers have underachieved in June and they missed out on Dallas Keuchel by just a couple million dollars.

Still, there’s more than a month to go until the non-waiver trade deadline. Acquiring Encarnacion won’t prevent the Yankees from trading for a pitcher before July 31. The Yankees were able to solidify their lineup at a low cost and still have all the pieces they need to acquire pitching later.

As of this writing, the Yankees have produced a 106 wRC+ as a team, which is above average but not quite up to the Twins’ (123 wRC+) or Astros’ (121 wRC+) level. That figure will probably rise when Judge and Stanton return and, of course, when Encarnacion gets in the lineup.

The trade does increase speculation on Frazier, who was sent down to Triple-A to make room for Encarnacion. The Yankees have dangled Frazier in trade talks in the past. With his youth and potential, he does make for an attractive trade chip. Because of the demotion and lack of a starting spot, he does seem like a player New York could part with.

That said, the Yankees won’t be desperate to trade him away. Even though they sent him down, there are reasons for the Yankees to look at a bigger picture and hold on to him. Despite his defensive struggles, Frazier is a 24-year-old outfielder who has proven he can hit big league pitching. Also, if any team knows the value of positional depth, it’s the Yankees. They’ve had to rely on the likes of Cameron Maybin, Mike Tauchman, and Tyler Wade to fill in for injured starters. You can’t predict injuries, and Frazier will likely see action in the bigs again soon.

For Encarnacion, he gets to play for a contender aiming for a championship. He also gets to hit in a ballpark that is considerably kinder to right-handed power hitters than T-Mobile Park. He does have a $20 million club option for 2020, but it remains to be seen if it will be exercised. At the very least, he gets an opportunity to pad his power numbers at Yankee Stadium before possibly hitting free agency again. As for the Mariners, they get a long-term asset/project (or another future trade asset; you just don’t know with Dipoto, huh?) while reducing payroll. On paper, this trade should satisfy both parties.





Sung-Min Kim writes for River Ave. Blues, and has written for MLB.com, The Washington Post, Baseball America and VICE Sports. Besides baseball writing, he is also passionate about photojournalism and radio broadcasting. Follow him on Twitter @sung_minkim.

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Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
7 years ago

I’d love to see an analysis of how many more (or fewer) wins the Yankees are likely to have as a result of trading for Encarnacion rather than using that money to sign Keuchel, or potential Frazier trade scenarios (or WAR projections for Encarnacion over Frazier, etc.). Feels weird to praise a trade in which the Yankees replace a young hitter who can’t field with an old hitter who can’t field; is there a good reason to think he won’t regress/get hurt and ultimately underperform vs Frazier in the short/long term?

yaro
7 years ago

He’s got a .500 Slugging with a 220 BABIP. Any regression from being on fire as he has been will probably be mitigated by the BABIP crawling back up to this career average,

dchil279Member since 2025
7 years ago

Edwin is a decent 1B and does not really profile as the centerpiece of a trade for a SP, unlike Frazier. They traded to add to a position of strength for trade purposes.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  dchil279

I get that, but the Yankees have 5-10 1B on their roster. I suppose I’m more curious in Frazier’s future as a result of this article and the marginal gain of EE over DK.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
7 years ago

The Yankees have two 1B…and Greg Bird.

VincentGuilds
7 years ago

Edwin only cost 3mm, not particularly close to what it would have cost to sign Keuchel.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  VincentGuilds

Would $3.5m more been enough to get DK? I dunno. Maybe I’m all backwards about this, but I guess I don’t see the value in stockpiling DHs unless you’re really trying to stop other teams from getting them. But I appreciate seeing the other perspectives 🙂

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago

Had the NYYs won the bid for DK, it’s entirely possible that they would not have consummated this trade. It’s fallacious to think that paying EE prevented them from offering DK more.

EE, being a rental, does not force a Frazier trade and has nothing to do with his long term outlook. Really the only question is how much of an upgrade EE is over the remaining 92 games of the season.

hebrewMember since 2016
7 years ago

they’re not stockpiling DH’s though. Judge and Stanton can play the OF just fine, and EE is a fine defender a 1b.

scott
7 years ago

They didn’t pass on Keuchel to sign Edwin. They have nothing to do with each other. Edwin was basically free for NY. Not to mention he’s likely on TB if NY doesn’t grab him. Why not take a free great player, who happened to be a target of their biggest competition?

This also allows them to make a trade without downgrading the O. You trade Frazier without Edwin and who replaces Frazier? It’s Gio Urshela or Cameron Maybin, with Stanton/Voit at DH. Edwin isn’t necessarily replacing Frazier, he’s replacing the guy who would replace a traded Frazier if they do trade him. He’s certainly built up big trade value.

dukewinslowMember since 2020
7 years ago

I dunno if it’s directly applicable but I tried to start thinking about the oppo costs of Kuechel vs. Kimbrel for the braves and the first order effects are easy enough but the second order effects (who gets shifted to the lineup, where, and how that helps or hurts the team) weren’t intractable but it was going to take more than 15 minutes to put together.

I’d start by thinking about the first order effects, but it is the second order effects (e.g. you sign Kuechel, you send a marginal starter to the pen) that are really interesting

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

I’ve been reading those reports about how Seattle wanted to save money this weekend as well. According to these reports, Dipoto is under orders to get rid of anyone making money immediately, and to save as much as possible in the process. If so, this explains why the Mariners sold EE to save about $8M and to get an FV40. It would also explain why they were willing to dump Bruce so quickly, to save $3.5M and get a non-prospect back.

If this is true, I’d give Dipoto a break on these deals and pin the blame on the owners. Orders to deal expensive players now pretty much never maximize returns. Prioritizing saving money ASAP instead of, say, taking a better prospect from the Astros or Rays (who were also involved) or waiting until a contender’s key player tears an ACL is not a good negotiating position to be in.

It makes you wonder what’s coming down the line. Beckham makes a ton of sense to go, since he can back up a bunch of infield spots and someone always needs that. Cory Gearrin is a reliever and not making the minimum, so they’ll give him away to someone. The Mariners and D-Backs almost swung a deal for Leake (that’s important, because Leake’s family is all in Arizona and he has a no-trade) and you have to imagine that the Mariners would have paid down pretty much all of that as well to save a couple million. Dee Gordon isn’t a star or anything, but if you think you can fix his defensive positioning at 2nd then maybe you can buy low on him. Seager’s got a weird poison pill provision where his club option becomes a player option if he’s dealt, but he’s probably still a league-average starter at third and maybe the Mariners could eat enough for the Phillies or Rangers to be interested? What about Kikuchi? Is there a team that would take him? (Yes, probably). Would the fans revolt? (Yes, probably).

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I know why you did it but if you’re going to replace a human being’s name with “FV40” at least mention his name elsewhere. These are people you know…a 19 year old kid

docgooden85Member since 2018
7 years ago

Thank you for this comment. I fight this battle at work all the time. Why say “resource” when the word you’re looking for is “person”? It’s as if the intent is to dehumanize when you’re reaching for a euphemism over a common and obvious word choice. “Human Resources” might be the stupidest 2-word phrase when adjusting for frequency of straight-faced usage. I have fired and hired plenty of people but never once did I call anyone a “resource”.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

I understand where you’re coming from, but it is sort of encouraged by the value framework, which converts all people to dollars. I think there’s room for a broader critique of that.

dukewinslowMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

the problem is that the “error” in the value function is all endogenous and mostly, to us and to writers, unobservable. It’s not that it’s not valuable! Obviously some teams are better at “valuing” who the prospects are as people and leveraging that advantage to better develop their own players (see: the Astros, Yankees), but I think that it’s always going to be really hard for sites like fangraphs who aren’t embedded with teams to get a handle on that kind of thing. The question is do you try? Do you plug a “makeup” parameter into your FV calculation or something like it? I don’t have an answer.

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Sure, I understand you’re establishing value framework but it is incomplete without the descriptive framework (using names, bio, background). These things matter.

I am not trying to single you out. I see this a lot. But personally I would not want to be narrowed down into a simple number, and I am sure others feel the same way. It’s better writing too

BMac
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

FV40 totally suits the narrative. The emphasis has to be not on the individual, but the value. I have seen websites praising Seattle for this trade for acquiring a valuable prospect! EE+$8M=40FV?!?! Not.

baubo
7 years ago

I don’t understand why you think this is a big deal, unless you believe people can simply never use generic descriptions in any situation.

“Average MLB starter,” “AAAA hitter,” “Replacement level SS,” “top 100 prospect,” “A student,” “Hard working employee” People use these descriptions all the time whether in baseball or life. It’s not dehumanizing unless you want to say we need to revamp the way English language is used.

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  baubo

Usually it is preceded with the individual’s name though. “Juan Then (FV40)” is easy to write as “FV40”.

Not too mention, it is just bad writing. Not once did OP mention his name in his/her comment. If a person who is not familiar with the trade were to read that, how would they know who is being referenced?

WoundedSprinterMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

This.

Except … I don’t have a handle on EE’s salary in 2019. ( The buyout in 2020 is $5 million, which is peanuts to NYY but rather more to SEA.) Cots and BBR have it at $21.666, Which, pro-rated, would be about $13M for the rest of the year. Or, say, $10M after July 31st.

Thing is, that $3 million would be worth hanging on for. EE has an OPS+ of 140 (incredibly, 7 points above his career AL average). He’s already accumulated 2 WAR. He can still (sort of) play 1B and 3B in a pinch. You’d think that any AL team in contention would drool over the chance to get him.

You’d think.

Now, consider the options. Boston are out — no positional opening, not even at DH, and too much money. Texas and Oakland are in contention , but not near enough to spend that much dough over two years. The Angels, if you believe the Angels have a shot, already have a DH who you can’t move (and is better than EE, even after TJ).

There was nobody out there in the AL, as far as I can see. And, although I’d like to think an NL team would take a punt on a 36 year old in a renaissance year … no, that wasn’t going to happen either.

In short, I doubt it was the owners. I think EE simply had no market.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

The reporting could be wrong, but the reporting says Tampa and Houston were willing to trade more back but eat less money (MLBTR has pulled it together, mostly). They could have gotten a better deal for the long term, but ownership wants to save money now.

My understanding on the salary is that EE has about $9.25M left now, plus the $5M buyout. My understanding is that the Yankees and Mariners are splitting it, with the Mariners saving somewhere in the $7-8M range. The buyout isn’t subject to luxury tax though, so that makes that payout less problematic for the Yankees.

London Yank
7 years ago

The A lineup is going to look something like:

Hicks
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Encarnacion
Voit
Gregorious
Torres
Lemahieu

Shalesh
7 years ago

Next dominoes to fall:

1. Blue Jays trade Marcus Stroman to Yankees for Deivi Garcia (FV50)
2. Padres trade 1.5 years of Kirby Yates to Rays for Vidal Brujan (FV55)
3. Blue Jays trade 1.5 years of Ken Giles to Twins for Alex Kiriloff (FV55)
4. Indians trade 2.5 years of Brad Hand to Braves for Ian Anderson (FV55) & Kyle Muller (FV45+)
5. Giants trade Madison Bumgarner to Brewers for Tristen Lutz (FV50)
6. Reds trade Tanner Roark to Phillies for Francisco Morales (FV45)

Cleveland is tied for the 5 playoff spot with the Rangers and just ahead of the Red Sox so they may not want to break up the team. If they and the Rangers do, where do Lance Lynn, Mike Minor, Carlos Santana, and Trevor Bauer go? How about Tommy La Stella, Marcus Semien (1.5 years of control), Starling Marte (2.5 years of control), Robbie Ray (1.5 years), and Zach Greinke (2.5 years of control)?

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

any reason why those suggestions are mostly one-for-one?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

I don’t actually think most of these are going to happen like this for various reasons, but I do think teams have not been as interested in Zack Greinke as they should. The guy has put up the #21 WAR among starters, and projected at #24 for the rest of the season. A deep-pocketed team like the Rangers or Phillies should be interested. Maybe even a team like the Twins.

carterMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think WAR underestimates Greinke. Nothing much more to add, but his results have been superb, and it stands to be reasoned if someone can outperform expected results it would be the guy who is considering the NFL front office when retiring.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  carter

Greinke’s ERA this year is quite a bit lower than his FIP but you have to go back to 2015 to find a split anything like this. That said, BP has him as the ninth most valuable pitcher this year, so there is some (but only some) evidence that what he’s doing isn’t the work of the defense. Whether that’s sustainable? Who knows.

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Cleveland isn’t trading Hand even if they give up on the season. He is cheap and has long term value and cheap/long term value is why they shuffled Encarnacion off and made no effort to get anything for Brantley.

They *might* conceivably trade Bauer’s remaining 18 months. Doubt the Yankees would move Frazier for Bauer but it would be funny to see.

CL1NTMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Oh man! I would be pissed if ATL traded Anderson and Muller for Brad Hand. That would suck. ☹

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago

yup, it’s really a no brainer for the yankees. minimal cost in terms of dollars (~3 million in luxury tax dollars) and in terms of prospects. strengthen a strength. the big gripe from yankees fans i’ve seen so far is that EE is not a pitcher. they are correct in that he is not a pitcher, but it is also not july 31. they have plenty of time still to get a pitcher and could position themselves to get a pretty decent one if they decide to dangle clint frazier.

however, i do not think it is wise to trade clint frazier now. maybe they do want to trade him after his comments and maybe they feel like he just won’t work out with the yankees, but just from a baseball perspective, the yankees do not have an everyday LF replacement next year with gardner being done (both in terms of contract and play) and they have stated they would prefer stanton to play mostly DH in the future, so that would leave a minimal cost, high control player like Clint to be that replacement next year. spending big on free agent LF in the offseason when there will be some pretty good pitchers on the market to chase instead does not seem like a smart move when it appears like the yankees are not going to spend heavily in FA like in the past.

yes clint was sent down yesterday and the “writing is on the wall” according to some, but i think they want clint to play everyday in AAA instead of getting sporadic playing time in the majors . also i think the yankees realize that hicks, stanton and to a lesser extent, judge are injury prone and that they may go down again this season, in which case calling up clint frazier to get those at-bats instead of say, mike tauchman (who i like, for the record), would be a much better idea. or he’ll be traded in july and everything i just typed is going to be irrelevant

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

I don’t exactly know why they want Stanton to be a permanent DH, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to take a decent corner outfielder and assign him to be the primary DH when you have an everyday corner outfielder slot open.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

it does seem they are more willing to play stanton in the field than they were last year, he will be playing there mostly everyday it seems when he comes back. this is just speculation, but i think they’d rather him at DH because he does have a contract til he’s 38, and they might do whatever it takes for him to last as long as he can so he isn’t as physically over the hill as he may be if he were playing the field everyday. one of the reasons they brought gardner back this year is because they really value his defense in the spacious Yankee Stadium LF, and while Frazier may be worse than Stanton defensively right now, I think his defensive numbers this season may be a bit inflated. defense was never really a concern when he was a prospect with some thinking he could pass at CF, i think he is better and can improve on what he’s shown this year. but, who knows?

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’d be a bit surprised to see anyone as their every day DH. The NYYs have a whole lot of very large gentlemen on their squad who have been known to get bumps and bruises from time to time, and as such I expect them to all get rotated through DH to keep them as fresh as possible for the balance of the season.

hebrewMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

yeah, i’m with you 100% here. Stanton, Voit, Judge, EE, Sanchez will all be “spelled” by seeing time at DH while someone else plays the field. All of those guys are good not great defenders and can easily hold their own in the field.

CliffH
7 years ago

Gardner’s play isn’t exactly done, he still projects as an above-average player this season! Average bat, still an above average defender

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  CliffH

Yeah, I was confused by the comment as well. In addition to the average bat and above average fielding, he’s also still an above average base runner.

Heck, if he was on the Indians, he’d probably be their best outfielder. His only real competition for that title is Oscar Mercado who has 108 career PAs at the major league level.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  CliffH

yeah, you’re right maybe, his bat hasn’t been great this season-his numbers right now are being propped by a recent hot streak-and it does mean something that a player in his advanced age is still able to be a good defensive CF

CliffH
7 years ago

Well he mostly doesn’t play CF but he can in a pinch. But despite his “hot streak” his BABIP is like .230 which is well below his career norms. I haven’t looked into his batted ball profile but considering his power is still there I doubt it’s too bad. If he was running a .300 BABIP his offensive numbers would be pretty sick.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  CliffH

He played CF basically everyday when Hicks was injured. Only recently has he gone back to LF

jankees1991
7 years ago

“the yankees do not have an everyday LF replacement next year”

^^ I disagree with this point; Stanton was a perfectly capable everyday RF when he was playing in the National League and at 28 years old there’s no reason to think he would suddenly crumble from getting reps in Left.

However, I think you are exactly correct with your last paragraph, in that it doesn’t do any good for a talent like Frazier to not get everyday reps. As demoralizing as it is to get sent to AAA after his stellar start to the year, it’s more about getting him consistent reps rather than anything around his performance. I envision a package like Frazier+(1 or 2 prospects) for Bauer, or something like Frazier+Andujar+Florial+ to land Scherzer. So unless the right deal opens up for a starter, you stash Frazier in AAA as positional depth as long as you need to, and then next year we probably wouldn’t pick up EE’s $20M option and Frazier looks to be the starting LF, with Stanton as your main DH.

hebrewMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  jankees1991

Scherzer?!?! did you maybe mean Strasburg?

jankees1991
7 years ago
Reply to  hebrew

No, I meant Scherzer. If the Yankees are going to shell out for a true frontline starter, I want the guy who has been one of the best pitchers in baseball this decade.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  jankees1991

it’s not that i dont think stanton cant play a decent enough LF, it’s that the yankees have really tried to avoid having him play the field so far during his yankees tenure. like i mentioned in another comment, stanton has a contract that expires when hes 38, the yankees know they’re probably in for the long haul with that deal (i think an opt out is very unlikely) so they want to protect him as much as possible. he will be playing a lot more OF when he comes back than the yankees probably intended

Mac
7 years ago

I sincerely hope ‘padding power numbers’ isn’t a still a thing for MLB clubs. I know it’s human nature so see gaudy numbers and think “wow!” but any real analysis must include park effects. Moving to Yankee Stadium doesn’t make Encarnacion a better hitter.

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  Mac

Park effects describe the average impact that stadium has on a hitter, but the actual effect that a park has on hitters is a distribution. The actual effect that a park has on a specific hitter may not be reflected by the park effect mean very well at all. Also, a park effect in Stadium A might reflect the impact on the production a hitter very well, but the park effect for Stadium B might be a very poor descriptor of that stadium’s impact on the very same hitter. Encarnacion very well might be a better hitter for Yankee stadium than he is for Safeco.

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Obviously hard to do a straight-up comparison but for his career EE has hit .275/.397/.555 at Safeco vs .263/.330/.510 at Yankee Stadium.

In fact, of the 20 parks where EE has at least 100 career PAs. he has his second highest OPS and his 4th highest SLG at Safeco. So I’m skeptical that moving to Yankee stadium is going to have much of an effect on his numbers.

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

BTW, I meant to write “second highest OBP”, not OPS.

CliffH
7 years ago

I want a projection for the fully healthy Yankees lineup

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  CliffH

Here: BRRR…

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
7 years ago

Also… The Red Sox and Rays do NOT get Encarnacion

ScoreboardMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Mario Mendoza

Really think this angle is not being discussed enough.

Though TBH, I’m not sure there’s a spot on the Rays for him w/Choi, Meadows, & Diaz. Red Sox could definitely use him at 1B.

ScoreboardMember since 2016
7 years ago

Okay, so I get the cost cutting. But this means Cashman essentially pulled off the following trade:
– Nick Rumbelow
for
– Edwin Encarnacion
– JP Sears

Man. The guy is a freaking wizard.

Moranall
7 years ago

This article headline becomes way more amusing when you read it and think it’s Edwin Jackson the Yankees just acquired

docgooden85Member since 2018
7 years ago

So sick of watching the Yankees buy players from other teams. So sick of other short-sighted owners being penny wise and pound foolish.

docgooden85Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

Meaning I would have liked to see the Ms get more human capital in return rather than dollars. MLB franchises increase in value at a staggering rate. Trading players for money just puts the Yankees at a permanent advantage.

Jon
7 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

Ah, my apologies. But prospects have values – perhaps this was just the better deal when considering the “cash to prospect value” conversion rate.

With the Cano deal, they showed that they were willing to include a lot of money to get better prospects. They probably could have done something along the lines of Diaz and Cano for nothing, but they chose to add money (and take bad contracts back) to get prospects.

Jon
7 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

Care to elaborate? You’re saying Seattle should have kept EE (and be “pound wise”) so they could increase their 2020 win total from 71 to 73?

ScoreboardMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

No. He’s saying they should have taken a deal where they get better prospects, but have to eat a larger portion of the contract.

docgooden85Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Thank you Scoreboard, that is correct. I was boarding a flight so it was rushed and poorly edited. My apology on that front. I just don’t like player for dollar trades in general — teams shouldn’t be concerned with short term cash flow when they’re sitting on gold mines and could get players with the direct goal of improving the baseball side.

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  docgooden85

The Yankees must have been sick of it too, since they pretty much stopped doing it years ago. Their current roster was primarily assembled through trades or the farm system.

TRADES
Gregorious: acquired in trade for Shane Greene
Voit: acquired in trade for Chasen Shreve and Giovanny Gallegos
Torres: acquired in trade for a few months of Aroldis Chapman
Hicks: acquired in trade for JR Murphy
Urshela: acquired in trade for “cash considerations”
Frazier: acquired in trade for Andrew Miller
Paxton: acquired in trade for Justice Sheffield, Dom Thompson-Williams and Eric Swanson
Happ: acquired in trade for Brandon Drury and Billy McKinney
Britton: acquired in trade for Dillon Tate, Cody Carroll, and Josh Rogers
Kahnle: acquired with Todd Frazier and David Robertson for Blake Rutherford, Tyler Clippard, Ian Clarkin and Tito Polo
Green: acquired with Luis Cessa for Justin Wilson
German: acquired (with Nate Eavoldi and Garret Jones) for Martin Prado and David Phelps
Morales: acquired for player to be names later and cash considerations

TRADES DRIVEN BY CONTRACT OF PRIMARY PLAYER
Stanton
Encarnacion

FARM
Sanchez: developed from Yankees system
Judge: developed from Yankees system
Gardner: developed from Yankees system
Andujar: developed from Yankees system
Severino: developed from Yankees system
Betances: developed from Yankees system
Holder: developed from Yankees system

FREE AGENTS
LeMahieu: reasonable contract in 2019
Ottavino: pricey contract for a reliever in 2019
Sabathia: big money contract in 2009
Tanaka: big money contract in 2014
Maybin: bargain basement 2019
Tulowitski: bargain basement 2019

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

The real lesson here is that if Brian Cashman offers you a trade for some random org piece, you should probably hang up the phone and immediately promote that player to the big league squad.

ScoreboardMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Can we do an article on Win/Loss rates of GMs’ trades? I recognize that’s not entirely fair since it’s riddled with hindsight bias but I would still be interesting.

FrancoLuvHateMets
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Cashman is what DiPoto wishes he was. Not that Dipoto loses every/most trades, but Cashman hits on every AAAA/busted top prospect/bench guy with warts type of deals.

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

You left Chapman off the list of free agents. And even though he hasn’t played since 2017, the corpse of Jacoby Ellsbury probably deserves to be mentioned somewhere.

(and I’m sure it was autocorrect but it’s Justus Sheffiled, not Justice).

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

And Britton. The Yankees have spent a lot of money in FA on the bullpen. It’s not vintage evil empire, but let’s be real…if you have the 2nd largest payroll in the league you are clearly using your financial might to buy some wins, and that’s frustrating for fans of about 25 other teams.

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Good catch with Chapman, he belongs as a big free agent signing.

I included Britton in the trades since that is how he was acquired. I think resigning your own players is a bit different from buying players from other teams.

I didn’t include Ellsbury since he is not a part of the current roster and probably never will be again. The Ellsbury contract is potentially an important part of the discussion though, since this failed contract might mark the inflection point where the Yankees really changed their model.

I agree that other teams should be frustrated with the Yankees, but it isn’t for the reason you are implying. The Yankees have been able to construct their roster of position players and starting pitchers efficiently enough that it allows them the luxury of spending significantly more on bullpen pieces than most (or all) other teams. And despite this the Yankees are still running a payroll well below what their revenue stream can support. They’ve done it by being the anti-Evil Empire.

BMac
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Happ was signed as a free agent; the trade part was just for the last few months before he became a free agent.

ScoreboardMember since 2016
7 years ago

All the clamoring for the Yankees needing pitching, but I’m ridiculously confused as to where it is needed. I assume it’s for SP, since the bullpen has been sensational this year.
– Paxton/Tanaka are rock solid
– Sabathia and Happ are upgradeable, but you’d need an ace to get more than 1 incremental win over them
– German will be back next week for the 5th spot
– Severino/Loasiga/Montgomery should return later this year
– In the meantime, Green + Cortes are a very solid opener + longman combo

Go look at the top pitchers in the league right now. Unless the Mets/Nationals decide to start selling off their true aces, I don’t think there are any players that make this rotation substantially better.

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Bauer has 18 months left and wants to test free agency.
Plus there’s still 6 weeks for teams to fall out of contention. There should be at least a number 2 available by then.

Cashman will find a way…
…whether we like it or not.

CJMember since 2020
7 years ago

Is anyone worried that Yankees are getting too right-handed? When Gardner and/or Hicks slumps, they’ll be mowed down by good RH SPs….

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

The Yankees look like they got a steal to me. I know E5 is 36 now, but he is still a premium bat that will really help the Yankees and they gave up a nobody to get him.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
7 years ago

My biggest hope for this trade is that it means the Yankees stop trying to make Kendrys Morales happen. (Seriously, his numbers were worse than organization filler Mike Ford’s during his callup.)

fjtorres
7 years ago

He’s on the IL.
When he gets back he’ll get designated or rolled into a trivial trade so somebody else will give him a few ABs before designating him.
Getting him was a ‘what the heck” deal. Low expectation filler.
He won’t take anything away from anybody even vaguely useful.